I realize you are from a generation in which it was considered acceptable to call blacks “those people,” and to make disparaging comments about them, but this is 2014. Just because someone has a last name that you assume implies his race, it’s not OK to say “well of COURSE he hasn’t done (insert whatever you think he should have done), he’s one of THOSE people, and we all know how shiftless they are.” -Glad I Don’t Work There

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  1. What makes you think they were referring to race? The name? Perhaps it was because the person did not do something (insert whatever you think he should have done) because he is one of THOSE people who never do what they are supposed to do. Do not project your ignorance on others.

  2. Koda;
    The speaker specifically referenced the guy’s last name as being common in Preston, so he “must be black”. Sorry I didn’t feel the need to spell out the entire conversation.
    Trust me. This was a racist comment. As was another I overheard where the same person said Ellen is a better talk show host than Oprah because she doesn’t “bring being black” into every show.

  3. Maybe Gidget, YOU need to be a little more tolerant of “those people”, referring to the people from a generation in which it was considered acceptable to call African Nova Scotians “blacks”…

    And if it isn’t obvious, YOUR comment (“blacks”) is considered “racist” in certain circles…

  4. Point taken, and depends on the circles, Meaty. I was trying to make a short bitch which was as clear about the situation as possible. Next time I feel the need to rant I will make sure I put in every piece of irrelevant info in so it’s long enough that nobody will read it.

  5. What about names like Marriott, Melvin or any other name synonymous with being involved with crime? “Those people” aren’t African, Nova Scotian.

  6. I can assure you that people of the generation OP spoke of speak the same way about anyone named Marriott, etc. Hopefully when they die off, we won’t have to have this conversation ever again.

  7. you mean the ‘generation’ that marched and protested and got gassed or shot (or in my case, had my foot run over by a motorcycle cop) for civil rights?

    it’s not a generation, it’s racist, bigoted jerks and they are found in every age group, everywhere.

  8. “DISPARAGING COMMENTS”

    “I realize you are from a generation in which it was considered acceptable to call blacks ‘those people,’ and to make disparaging comments about them, but this is 2014.” Glad I Don’t Work There

    Is it a disparaging comment, as “Glad” has clearly made, to call blacks “blacks”? Does calling blacks “blacks” suggest that Glad is racist? What is a racist? What is racism? Is the current ideal of colour-blindness where race is concerned possible? Can Glad ignore the evidence of her eyes that blacks exist? These questions raise interesting opportunities to clarify the embedded concepts.

    Glad has considered it acceptable to call blacks “blacks” and, depending upon the connotation which Glad places on the term “black” it may, or may not, be racist. If Glad harbours negative thoughts about the characteristics of blacks yet nonetheless proceeds to call them “blacks,” then clearly Glad is a racist. On the other hand, Glad may harbour no such negative thoughts about blacks so calling them “blacks” carries no stigma of racism. She is just reporting on the evidence of her eyes, the evidence of perception.

    The question, of course, is whether Glad must overtly utter the word “blacks” as a disparaging comment at all in order to count as being a racist. Indeed Glad, while saying nothing, may secretly harbour negative thoughts about the characteristics of blacks. Is Glad still thereby a racist even if no one heard her utter a disparaging comment about blacks? Must racism, to be racism, be overt?

    And what about the ideal of colour-blindness in respect to race? While walking along the street Glad sees a group of blacks. If Glad aspires to the ideal, must Glad ignore the evidence of her eyes? Must she be colour-blind or can she acknowledge the evidence of her perception yet make no further assumptions? But the question is, “Is this possible?” This raises the philosophical issue of the nature of conceptualization.

    A concept is a concept by virtue of the fact that it renders reality meaningful. In other words, something is or is not meaningful if it falls under a concept and to fall under a concept is, by definition, to be made meaningful, to be made intelligible. So Glad perceives the group of blacks as being an identifiable group, one having similar characteristics. But – and this is important – can Glad simply perceive that group of blacks without some further judgement, without some sort of assessment, without a framework of interpretation that serves to raise that group of blacks, in Glad’s mind, out of the category of mere objects of perception and to situate them in the category of conception, of being made meaningful and can she do this independently of her own socially-constructed conceptual framework? In still other words, is the current ideal of colour-blindness conceptually possible?

    But these must be questions for another time. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  9. This wasn’t the manager of the L.A. Clippers was it.
    Because without the active participation of “those people”, both on court and in the stands, his team would be competing with darts and professional snooker for air time.

  10. yeah ivan, I hear he owns several apts in our preston. lol

    but seriously, have you seen him? and his GF? ummmmmm I think he is just mad because she is not staying bought. according to the tape he was screaming he didn’t care if she fucked Johnson, just to not post it on the internet or bring her fellows to the games and flaunt it in public.

    but he sounds pretty racist to begin with.

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