To the two sad excuses for parents in the WalMart McDonalds on Mumford Road June 25 at 8-ish:
You do not deserve a child. I honestly cannot believe the things that you were saying to your child. HOW on earth do you justify looking at a child and saying: “YOU! Shut your fucking mouth. I am done playing with you!, or “You ain’t getting shit! Shut your mouth”, or “Nanny and Poppy ain’t here to save you tonight! Your not going to day camp Monday.”
HE IS FIVE AND DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING BAD AT ALL! He said he was still HUNGRY! Yet you had no trouble getting up from your Big Mac meals to get another burger for each of you.
Both of you are disgusting. You are not worthy to even fucking breathe in that precious child’s direction. AND how dare you hit him IN THE HEAD IN PUBLIC?!?!? What the fuck is wrong with you? Then turn around and tell him that was nothing and if he utters one more fucking word he’ll get it harder, because that was just a love tap. THEN smack the table as hard as you can to scare him.
If I didn’t think that your ugly, greasy ass would have hit me, I would have said something to you in person. I think you are a disgrace to human kind, and that child deserves better.
This article appears in Jun 26 – Jul 2, 2008.
Hey Christopher! Right here! yeah, over here! THIS is like a giant, third party rebuttal to everythign you’ve said in the vilgilantie etc posts………..This is, I think, what most people seem to forget: yeah you (and I don’t just mean specifically christopher, I’m using that universal ‘you’) say it’s ok for a random passerby to beat the shit out of some taggers, you say it’s ok for peopel to take matters into their own hands to deal with criminals etc etc, adn you say it’s ok, in fact what is needed, is stricter disapline by parents and society, and if only these kids had gotten spanked or punished at home maybe they wouldn’t need to get beat down by you now.WELL welcome to the slippery slope! you say it’s ok to spank your kid, if you’re a reasoned, mature adutl who knows when and where it’s appropriate and how hard etc etc. WELL then there are the adults who really aren’t that mature. Most people can’t handle, I don’t think, that sort of power and control over another human being, especially one smaller than them. you end up with greasy excuses for human waste like the ones in this post who think it’s ok to smack their kid for virtually nothing, in public, with an excessive degree of force, because hey, it’s their kid and they’re allowed to disapline him anyway they want, right?
I actually found out once. That if a sitter decides to use corporal discipline with your child, that nothing can legally be done about it. No charges can be pressed. How messed up is that? The poor OP. I bet that they wish that there was something they could have done for that kid. Posting this bitch is pretty good though. I hope that they never have to witness something that eekful again.
Obviously, this is dispicable behaviour. The difference between this story, and the tagger from the other bitch, is that this FIVE year old kid was NOT doing anything wrong. He didn’t say to his parents “give me another fucking burger mom, you piece of shit!”, he said, “i’m still hungry”. The kid in the park was BREAKING THE LAW, defacing public property, then mouthed off to the guy when he first tried to ask them to stop and inform them that grafitti is a crime and annoying. Someone should have gone up to those “parents” and called them on their disgusting behaviour. If the mom or dad said something like “what the fuck are you going to do about it”, I think I would not shed a tear if someone gave them a “love tap” either. Sure the right thing to do might be to call the cops (which is probably the route I would take if I got a “what the fuck are you going to do about it”) but at least someone would have done something. Letting behaviour like this go on because “it’s not my problem” only makes things worse. The kid in this bitch is probably more likely to be the further victim of abuse in the future from bullies and the like, rather than a bully/criminal himself. Again, I am not condoning violence, I am promoting intervening when you see something wrong happening and you can do something to stop it. Complacency is rotting our society. We are all responsible for each other.
I agree we are all responsible for each other Miles. My big beef with this bitch and some of the others on this board is when it’s not two adults sorting somethign out, but an adult and children involved. adults can be expected to reasonably decide how to fight back, if at all. kids can’t.
Unbelievable! OP, call the cops the next time you see someone abusing a defenseless child!!!!!
First off I would have said something I wouldn’t have cared if I got hit and if I did would have been a scene and then everyone would have seen what was being done to those kids and they would ahve gotten taken anyway from those disgusting excuses of humans, oh this makes me soooo angry reading this, I can’t believe there are people like this that have childern, I swear there should be a license to have childern.
I have three kids. Never spanked them. Never even threatened to spank them. Two of them are teenagers, and the other is grown and gone. All three are polite, respectful, responsible young adults. I’ve been a single parent for most of their lives, with all the challenges that entails. And somehow, I have managed to raise these three great kids without ever hitting them. I do not believe it is ever neccessary or acceptable to hit a child. Bad behavior is not the result of lack of spanking. Bad behavior is the result of poor parenting. Spanking is the tool of a lazy parent who can’t be bothered with more time consuming, but ultimately more effective, methods. If the only way you can enforce discipline is to spank your child, then you have already failed.
Any body who hits a child is a coward and needs their head smashed in by someone proportionally bigger than them…
There is a clear difference between child abuse and discipline.This was a case of some horrible parenting. THere is a time and a place for spanking. Some parents abuse that as they cant be bothered to teach the children correct and carry on as though the kid should know better. Hell, every kid in our family got spanked a few times. Most times i got spanked, it was deserved. I got the simple chastising, and the time out bullshit. Kids today laugh at the time out. Many parents are going to say it works. It might on your kid, it doesnt on others. Getting spanked was no different than the first time i touched that hot stove. My mother used that as a tactic to scare me, she beat my butt one time for something, then i knew to never do it again. Now its a crime…. how fucked up is that? Spanking has been around for thousands of years and many kids turned out alright, but the know it all, goody goody moms of today know better.Again, there is a time and a place for discipline…. but OP was clearly not that one time
Slavery has been around for thousands of years too. The fact that something has been done in the past, and people survived it, does not make it right and proper. There is no time, and no place for spanking. It is wrong. If your boss comes into your cubicle and catches you on Facebook, and smacks you, that’s wrong. If your kid takes a cookie after being told not to, and you smack his hand, that is also wrong. There’s no gray area here.
slavery prevented one from growing to thier potential as a race. How many good things have come from slavery?are you going to tell me next that grounding a kid will cause a complex and be bad for mental health? Time outs will cause seperations anxiety from thier friends?Please, many people were spanked and ended up ok. While i respect your right to do what you want with your kids, and there might be many things that i dont agree with, fuck off and leave me to do my thing.
Hear, hear Miranda!I completely agree, spanking is at best lazy parenting, at worst – immoral, counterproductive and just plain wrong. It deserves its place in history alongside slavery as an outrage that went on too long, and was met by venomous protest at the prospect of its demise. Someday we’ll look back with shame, but right now we’re all a little caught up in clinging to the chains that bind us.
Leaving you to “do your thing” doesn’t fly when “your thing” involves commiting violence against a defenceless person. Clearly, in this case a law is neccessary, because so many people actually think they have a right to hit their kids.
What good came from slavery? All kinds of economic good came from slavery. Millions of people benefited from the systematic abuse of other human beings, and not just the actual slaveholders. We now accept that the benifits of slavery did not justify it. Someday we will accept that the benefits of spanking – instant obedience, order in the home, respect for parental authority – do not justify the systematic perpetration of violence against a whole group of people.
exactly miranda! I’m always confused when people like the op say they would have said something, but would ahve gottne hit. at which point, if that parent had hit the op, everyone else in the area would ahve made it a huge deal. BUT it’s totally acceptable for that same parent to wollop their kid?? at what point, exactly, does it cease to be disapline and becoem socially unacceptable?I think the line here is this, and homie sort of got close to it: spanking and corporal punishment is a lazy relic of the past, yes. if someone MUST hold onto it, it should be used as the absolutly last resort, the big red nuclear button that is pushed when every single other option has failed. It should not be the thing parents go to first. the trouble however is that all this excusign of spanking that goes on normalzies the behavior, and makes it ok for parents to be lazy and skip all the other steps. it’s a lot easier to hit your kids then talk to them, and it may solve the problem in the short term, but my guess is you’ll just have to keep hitting them as the problem was never resolved. THAT I think is what causes bigger problems, out of control kids later on- it’s not a lack of disapline, but rather a lack of the RIGHT disapline which not only punishes, but solves the problem.
These people are worse than animals and are probably third or fourth generation welfare pigs. Too bad they couldn’t be sterilized. That poor little kid will probably be sticking a knife into someone’s guy in a few years.
‘Gut’ not ‘guy’.
yeah, i never said that hitting a kid is the instant reaction.I was usually at the tenth occurance or so for a certain infraction. The time out, the grounding, the loss of privledges and shit hadnt worked, then the spanking came out. Usually when i was a gonad. My son wasnt spanked till he clearly understood things…..
I hate to break your bubbles… there was no mention of spanking in the OP. This was a clear case of abuse, just not physical abuse (unless you count the garbage the child was given to eat).Stand up and say what you mean, people! Especially the OP. It’s not up to the government to do all the talking for you in every situation and if you make it that way (and you all try so very hard) you contribute to the forming of a dictatorship. Remember, Nazi Germany ADORED their beloved leaders. The OP did nothing but bare witness to the abuse and in doing nothing reinforced these idiot parent’s behavior by indicating it’s normal acceptable behavior. It’s not! She said so here! Give her and the rest of society a fucking backbone and a tongue that works and we could clean this place up with making any new bylaws, without thanking our government. Are we getting it yet?
thank you kay, i am not really a fan of the idea that the government should be dictating exactly what is law….. and more over, most of the old folks that would be making the law were spanked or spanked themselves. To have them say the punishment they may have received as a kid made them bad people, is sorta hypocritical. Most politicians are educated and respected people. (i use the term respected very loosely) If they got spanked and had to then turn around and say that spanking is wrong…… yeah, cant see that happening.the point was brought up in the first reply and i think we all just wandered off on to the spanking tanget
thank you kay, i am not really a fan of the idea that the government should be dictating exactly what is law….. and more over, most of the old folks that would be making the law were spanked or spanked themselves. To have them say the punishment they may have received as a kid made them bad people, is sorta hypocritical. Most politicians are educated and respected people. (i use the term respected very loosely) If they got spanked and had to then turn around and say that spanking is wrong…… yeah, cant see that happening.the point was brought up in the first reply and i think we all just wandered off on to the spanking tanget
Don’t thank me, Homie. I never hit my kids. I don’t have to. I speak to them as if they’re actually small human beings and, therefore, deserve respectful communication at all time… as I expect from them.
and for many kids, your tactic doesnt work. I dont chastise those that fail with the talking method. I am just realistic to know that the method you use with your kid’s doesnt work with all other kids.Take a look at them kids that have been in and out of the system. Apparently the hands off approach and the time out of jail doesnt do the trick. Sometimes a good ass whoopin brings out the good in people. Its naive to think that all parents are able to instill the same values by using the same methods. I dont condone leaving marks and shit like that, or spankings as a first thing either. It has its time and place. I got the belt, and i turned out just fine.
Teaching respect and having an actual talk with your child about what they are doing wrong and how to improve is the route I go, but I agree with Homie to a point…Parenting is about consistency, so if you start out spanking/talking and then switch it up, and then back and forth a few more times, neither method is really going to stick with them. This bitch makes me angry, and kinda sad. The kid deserves to be raised better, and disciplined only when he does something wrong.
take a look at one simple fact that no parent cant deny.The average kid age 6-10 is with the family for one hour in the morning. Then spends the next 8 hours in the presence of strangers and other kids. Then when they come home, the average working parent, after cooking supper, and arranging the house, gets maybe 2 hours with the kid, in which they are usually playing and shit like that.so for 2-4 hours a day ( weekdays that is) the parent have a chance to influence kids, gaurnteed 8 hours, that same child is in the presence of his schoolmates. If parents think the good shit they teach doesnt get negated somewhat by someone that hasnt had the same teachings during them 8 hours, you are an idiot and naive parent. Most kids learn sexual related issues from tv, playgrounds, playing house with that kid that doesnt know better and shit like that…… to say, “my kids do not do this or that…” and are err free is silly. Some kids are more influenced by external shit than others. Some times an asswhooping will alter that thought
homie did you have a point? really?cause basically that last post just read like you were saying parents don’t have enough time during the week to adequately influence their kids, who are more raising themselves along with other kids (who have been influenced either by their bad parents, who did have the time to parent them, or satan, you know, whichever) like a pack of howler monkeys, and so in order to really get their point across, they need to wack their kids? pause and think about that for a sec.I don’t know about you, but both my parents worked, my siblings and I all had activities and so did my parents (who both went back to school while I was growing up), and yet, they managed to have HUGE influences on me, in that limited amount of facetime we had every day, without having to hit me or my siblings. I was more influenced by my family, and I think most people are, than by my friends or kids at school. that’s the hallmark of good parenting, right there- if your kid has values and a sense of right and wrong that carries through, no matter waht the world throws at them.maybe if you actually talked to the kids, and taught them instead of hitting them, they wouldn’t be so influenced by the crazy kids on the playground.
I say Kay should run as the nexted Minister of Community Services as a Independant Candidate.I like your style!
So Alison let get this straight… You’re saying you like her style… on the coast?
Alison, “nexted” is not a word! “Next” will do just fine!
Um, Alison? You don’t “run” for Community Services Minister. It’s an appointed position. You have to be an MLA first…
Off topic for sure bud Kay”It’s not up to the government to do all the talking for you in every situation and if you make it that way (and you all try so very hard) you contribute to the forming of a dictatorship”Do you incude yourself in that “you” or is it everyone else. Assuming that you, Kay, are pointing your finger what steps do you personally take to combat what is happening? Or do you just like to point your finger at the general population for something that you your self are, most likely, just as responsible for?
Jennie, I think if Alison wants to run for Community Services Minister she should be allowed to run, and I for one will not be part of any conspiracy to prevent her from doing do so…In fact, I might even offer up my name on the ticket as Vice-Community Services Minister… And the fact that this position does not even exist makes it all the more imperative that I run…Vote ALISON-FLOYD in 2008…I can’t elaborate on my election platform right now, because I have to go write my acceptance speech and prepare my expense claim…
I think the best part of being Vive-Minister is that you’re actually called “Deputy” Minister, which means you get to wear a big brass badge on your brown-coat. It totally rocks, Dawg.
Oh no Jammie… Deputy Minister is a “real” job… I dont want THAT… Sounds like hard work to me… I specifically invented the “Vice” job as one with no actual responsibilities,,, but a whole lot of PERKS… Alison can answer all the tough questions when the cameras are on… I’ll just nod and smile in the background…
I do like the title “Deputy” though… I DO like that…Deputy Floyd…. DAWG… yeah I could do that after all…
Yeah that was the one. Lots of shit about two-lips, or was it daffodils? And Michael Angelo; what the fuck is that anyway? A baseball player? The salary is actually paid in cruse oil rather than cash. It amounts to about 129K, or approximately 4 barrels in Newfoundland.
At 142/bbl today,, I’ll take the oil… man.. The OIL…
That D’Angelo guy I think plays for the cubs.. Before that he painted the ceiling in the 16th chapel.. I don’t know who did the other 15… Supposedly took a long time though… like years… I know a couple of Portuguese guys would have done it on the weekend.. Cash only and tax-free… BOO-Ya
Yeah since he’s Italian he should have stuck with repairing shoes and playing with his puppet. The wooden one I mean. The Portuguese would have totally found that holy cup a lot faster too. And would have written a song for that Furtado chick to sing about it.
I’d love to drill that Nelly F
Me too. Speaking of drilling – the Portuguese fisherman are rumoured to have been fishing off the coast of Newfoundland before Marco Polo discovered Cuba, so not only are they painters and song-writers, they are the true discoverers of the Hibernia oil fields. Which brings us back to your salary…and your new boss Alison. Will she be giving some of that Magdalene Island blood of hers to fight the Antichrist after the National ID microchips have been installed in your hand?
Well that certainly went full circle now didn’t it Magellan…And that let me just say that my first order of business as Deputy Warlord,,, will be to appoint myself as Admiral of the High Seas…. Rear Admiral that is… I’d just love to drive a big ship from behind…
I was about to say it was fun playing “Six degrees of Alison”, but now I’m wondering if it is really “Six degrees of Elton John”….
No question and in the end,,, I would have been very hard put to not go over and snap that walmart dad right hard…
What Walmart Dad?Jeez, talk about off-topic;-)
But Deputy ministers are like CEOs – they go to a lot of meetings and talk a lot, but they don’t do real work, so it’s a pretty good ride…
New reality show – “Deputy Floyd Dawg – TROLL HUNTER”
Well,,, if I had my own private jet with fresh stewardesses for every flight I guess it would be okay…It still sounds like a lot of work though,,, you know,,, having to show up and stuff…
Alison would keep you going. Imagine all that energy being thrown at you all the time. Sending you off to pursue political intrigue and religious conspiracies all over the world. You’d totally be like Tom Hanks in that movie about the Holy Grail. Except I’d recommend a different haircut; it totally made him look like a sexual predator.
Jammie was that the stupid movie out a cople years ago were this hesus guy fucked some chick from the magdelene islands, had some kids, yadda yadda,,,, went for popcorn,,, bunch of intrigue and something about the louvre??? Ugh… Worst waste of celluoid ever… Total tripe… What would the pay be..??