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It’s not that many years since I and my friends were on the dating scene. It was always an unstated no-no to give out details of your exploits. Anyone who got too explicit was considered a bit of a douche. That’s why I find recent events so perplexing.
Posting sexually explicit, voyeuristic smart phone photos of women on social media is a completely different level of douche baggerie. Anyone who posts photos like that – an inexcusable invasion of privacy – is acting like a first class asshole in my books and should be ashamed. How would you feel if it happened to your mother, sister, friend, future wife or daughter?
Time to grow up! —A dude disgusted by some members of the younger male generation
This article appears in Mar 26 – Apr 1, 2015.
At first, I thought this was about a small French business that sold fresh douches.
I think the title is a reference to Amy Winehouse’s song Me and Mr. Jones which has the line:
“What kind of fuckery is this? “
I have to agree with the OB. Posting explicit photos without someone’s permission is a downright trashy thing to do.
Who allows themselves to be photographed in a naughty position by someone you don’t really know?
Bro Tim with a prime example of how make the victims feel like they’re at fault. Tisk tisk.
OB, not sure how old you are, but who knows what you would have done if you had as much social media + camera access as kids do these days. Sure am glad I’m old enough to have gotten through the more irresponsible times in my life without said access.
TaSB, I think you are right in that the combination of the instant access to social media sites combined with alcohol can lead to some very bad decisions. That said, there have been instamatic cameras for many years and I don’t recall any of my buddies taking snap shots to share with his friends.
At the risk of sounding like a geezer, there is a troubling trend with many, not all, of the current late teen/early twenties, social media savvy, bubble wrapped childhood generation. They are prone to over-sharing of intimate thoughts and photos in combination with a lifetime of never being held responsible for their bad behaviours. I suspect that those two things are at the root of recent scandals at Dalhousie. It is in their adulthood that some of those people are being held accountable for the first time. Hopefully, they will learn from this, they will apologize to their victims and never repeat these behaviours.
EggHead, yes, cameras have been around for a while, but I don’t think those are comparable to everyone having a high res camera in their pocket with instant sharing capabilities. When I was in University, no one brought cameras to parties.
I think you walked the line well enough to not fully sound like a geezer :). It’s tough assessing younger generations, hindsight is 20/20. And in reality, if you feel this younger generation is being coddled, that’s the older generations fault for failing as parents. I’m all for zeroes in schools and keeping kids in line.
In terms of Dal, I disagree with your assessment. Memes and jokes about taboo subjects are attractive for many. It’s not like these dudes were posting pictures of their classmates performing sexual acts, which IMHO, would be much much worse than what they did. I also don’t think its fair to assume that these guys lived a consequence free life up until now. I’m on the side of that whole thing being overblown by a few loud voices and the media. Sure it brings attention to the “good old boys club” mentality, but we have no evidence that this translated into anything negative until the posts were released. I agree with the path Dal has taken thus far.
TASB said: “It’s not like these dudes were posting pictures of their classmates performing sexual acts, which IMHO, would be much much worse than what they did. “
I wasn’t thinking about the “Gentlemen” so much in my post – and,yes, I agree in retrospect that there was an overreaction to that scandal or as our dear departed friend Hing Frogg might say – what kind of (lynch) mobbery is this?
I was thinking more about the latest Dal scandal where a student posted an explicit photo of another on Instagram. I sincerely hope that the young woman who was a victim of this treachery will not blame herself for what happened and will be able to regain her trust in people.
if you don’t consent to having your private life recorded and you have had what you thought was private made public what legal recourse do you have? I never wanted my picture on line and did not know there was a camera wtf is wrong with society. Never having sex again due to my PTSD.
I would like to add that this douchery of a fellah was not young…..seriously not that being young is an excuse for ruining someone’s life
I see egghead, yes it’s pretty much the same thing, shitty people doing shitty things. There is certainly grounds for legal action there I would assume.
Awebri, there (should) be a lot of info out there for you if this has happened. See Revenge Porn and associated legal cases. I honestly don’t know what the legal options are if any, clearly there need to be.
It isn’t just the kids, based on what I’ve stumbled upon. Well, maybe they are the majority of the offenders, not the only ones, that’s for sure.
Awebri, I’m not religious but I firmly believe in the saying, “This too shall pass.”
It’s the same’smell my finger’ douchebags from when I was younger. The douchey man is an archetype, and has always existed, IMO.
TRYING AGAIN
“Posting sexually explicit, voyeuristic smart phone photos of women on social media is a completely different level of douche baggerie.”
Yes, there is no question that posting sexually explicit smart phone pictures of women on social media is a completely different level of douche baggerie but is the blame entirely on the male? If (some) females and a camera are in the same room certain results may be expected. Why is this so?
A fundamental part of the female psyche is designed to attract the male. This is nature’s way of stimulating the procreation of the species. That is why she permits the pictures to be taken in the first place. Nothing wrong with that but to that extent, and that extent only, she might be seen to be complicit to some degree in the exercise.
This was, roughly, the fourth comment on this thread but it was deleted. So, since it was an honest attempt to analyze the phenomenon, I’m trying again. Will it be deleted again? We shall see.
A pleasure as always,
Cheerio!
fathers, raze you’re sons to be th kind of men you want you’re daughters taking to the cleaners in the devorce settlemnt.
You would know ^^
#unemployedleechingoffex
Not all women want their pictures taken. i for sure did not. I don’t want to attract anyone anymore. I am now staying alive so my parents won’t have to suffer any more than they have already. Knowing that they will not be grandparents or be able to see their daughter get married is their pain. My pain is that I no longer trust and I am often angry which comes with the PTSD.I want to be crystal clear I did not want my picture taken. It was taken without permission. I have wasted thousands of dollars on therapy….. years have gone by and all I want to do is put on 12 pairs of long john’s permanently and hide where no one can see me. Some women might love the attention but it is a fact that we are all different and perhaps you should ask the person who’s picture your taking if they want it made public don’t assume that you know what is going on inside someone else’s head. Look at the mistake that I made I thought buddy respected me Ha Ha Ha
All of this is blown out of proportion leaving valid issues and arguments in the dust.
Everyone knows full well there is a certain percentage of people that will post your naked/compromising pics online, so, it should take a tremendous amount of trust to let someone take one, right? IMO, if you know this and still do it anyway you aren’t a victim, you’re an idiot.
I get so sick and tired of people touting “victim blaming” as an excuse for making poor life decisions and putting yourself in a position where you can easily become a victim. This is real life people, with real consequences. Not everyone has the same moral compass and it’s your JOB to protect yourself. The law cannot protect you from your own stupidity!!!
^^ SHITMD.. Christ knows no one ever manipulates people into anything they wouldn’t otherwise do.
In order to be manipulated, a person has to ignore their own better judgement and put someone else’s wants/needs before their own. Bottom line, there is nothing anyone else but you can do to protect you from being manipulated so the onus falls directly at your own feet, no one else’s. Just because you don’t like the cold hard truth, ohhappyday, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be said.
Isn’t this how those revenge porn laws came about???
Can’t the fuckers be sued for punitive damages?
AN HONEST ATTEMPT
“This was, roughly, the fourth comment on this thread but it was deleted. So, since it was an honest attempt to analyze he phenomenon, I’m trying again. Will it be deleted again? We shall see.” (Montrealman, 04/01, 2:53PM)
It appears that my fears of being deleted again were unfounded and so, once again, I take up the burden of attempting to honestly analyze the phenomenon of some treacherous douche- bags posting voyeuristic pictures of some women on-line.
My hypothesis was that the women who had their pictures posted were complicit in the phenomenon to the extent that, since it is a fundamental part of the female psyche to attract the male in order for the species to survive, their pictures were in fact taken to begin with. Were their pictures not taken then they would not be posted on-line. As with those taking the pictures being douche-bags is platitudinously obvious, so the fact that if the pictures were never taken to begin with there would be no phenomenon is also a matter of platitudinous obviousness. So far, so good.
However, awebri (04/01, 4:49PM) pointed out that, “Not all women want their pictures taken.” This, of course, is very true but does not refute my general claim that many do. My hypothesis, in other words, was just that, a general claim which would allow of individual exceptions. In matters such as these I always speak in general terms and abjure individual references. So far, so good.
But there is a further point, one relating to the taking of another’s photo without their permission. Even here their is a violation of privacy, albeit at a much lesser level than the matter under discussion. Some primitive tribes, so I understand, feel that their “souls” have been snatched away when they were photographed without giving their permission although it is a moot point just what a primitive giving their permission to be photographed would entail. Nonetheless, I think there’s something to it. For example, I dislike having my photo take without my permission – not that I am not good looking of course, far from it – but I do feel that there has been a personal transgression. I feel ill at ease.
So there we are. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
SHITYDOC: My last comment to you was deleted. The Real Truth bothered you? 🙁
^^^^Unless Harper is the Moderator, he can’t delete your comment. Only the moderator can delete comments, that or the poster making the comment within a 5 minute time frame. Are you the moderator ohhappyday? Deleting your own comment to make it look like Harper did it.
Lay the truth out for us, happy. Lay it all out once and for all please!!!
Real Truth is not something you can have injected into you’re face on live @ 5 by a quak with a medical degree from some caribeen university. that is called botox, truth is taking repsonsibility for you’re own actions and accepting that people have better things to do then send you hidden messages on an anonymous websight.
I’m not sure what you’re getting at, happy. You’re going to have to spell it out for me, I’m a little dumb.
SHITYDOC: …You do have a doctorate.
Oh quit your bullshit. ^^ No one believes you or your lies, you old saggy bag. Go drink another box of that wine you have cabbies deliver.
LOL, only one doctorate? I have at least three. Only having one is for losers!!!
Stop calling me a loser! Stop it right now!
SHITYDOC: Stand Down!
What are you on about, happy? You drunk already?
SHITYDOC: What happened to the original SHITYMD? I liked Him more.
I am the original SHITMD. There has been no other, now why don’t you like me?
Boru drunk? I don’t believe it! You lie like a rug, SHITMD.