Overall, I think everyone does a good job. The artists in the comic section totally suck, but I guess it must be near-impossible to find a good artist that will work for nothing. That section could go at anytime.
The most hated section, in my opinion, is the Savage Love section. We don’t need to hear about any more anal sex stories. Talk about things that matter, leave the sexcapades for magazines that AREN’T ACCESSIBLE to children.
Other than that, and especially since Liz” I Love Wendy’s combo #4″ Feltham is gone, you guys are great! Thanks! —Chickity China the Chineese Chicken
This article appears in Feb 25 – Mar 3, 2010.
Dear God no, the children can’t be exposed to the butts. Never mind that sex ed starts in elementary school, we’ll just hide it from them entirely and let them figure it out after their hormones set in.
Guess what? Sex matters. It’s a huge driving force for people personally, culturally and economically. Maybe if kids were completely educated they wouldn”t end up preggo at 12 and thinking anal/oral didn’t count as sex and couldn’t give you STDs. Also, I know this is a complete shock for you, but parents are responsible for what their children may or may not read. Not a private publication.
Then don’t expose your kid to The Coast. Pretty simple thing. Especially given how the paper makes no bones about the group of people it serves.
holy fuck dude/dudette, next thing, you’ll want the bitch section gone too. uhuh, gotta have a little, no matter how warped you or we are. there are some pretty bizarre types on here, including yours truly. but shit, life will go on, and crook polititionds will continue to screw us all, shome way or another.let er rip people, i’m going the fuck back to bed.
Is Peter Duffy’s Ghost Love ok, though? Cause that was in a major paper…
Savage Love = Perv Heaven. I always give it a pass now. But the Coast likes to be “outrageous” so they continue to run it.
Are you insane? Savage Love is the only good thing in The Coast. I started reading it when I was in high-school and I honestly think I’m a better person because of it.
It helped me get rid of the anti-sex religious ideas that were implanted into my brain as a child. If not for Savage Love I probably would have tried to abstain until marriage, fail of course like everyone does, and have to live with the terrible guilt and shame, associating sex with negativity, never accepting my attraction to women too, drowning in self-hate, suppressing all my kinks/fetishes and settling for a lifetime of boring vanilla post-marital monogamous heterosexual sex.
But instead of all that, I’m happy being me, the fucked up little perv I am!
The comic section is weak – even Holmes who seems to be struggling with his true story trip. Don’t even get me started on the other cartoonist – I’d rather eat Garfield’s ear canals than let my eyes absorb its complete shitiness. As for Dan, I think he’s provided a valuable service to people – fuck, if it weren’t for him, I would have never learned about ‘pegging’ which has enhanced my skills as a domomatrix. The garage has never had so many clients. Meat hooks all ’round, boys!
I dunno know about this “super-hero girl” strip… Kinda neat, but at least it beats 10,00 Mouths or Un-Life. Un-Life was worse than 10,000 Mouths. That’s saying a lot.
Yeh, the comics are weak,True Stories or whatever has some good bits once in awhile though. Why is it so hard to find good cartoonists that can do a weekly strip? Don’t we have NSCAD? Oh, right…..
Soon as I pick up the Coast, first thing I do is flip to the Savage, same with about a dozen other people I know. Sure, it’s not something you want to read while eating most times… but it’s pretty F’n funny!
As for the comics, that’s a different matter.
Dry, tastless, not really funny, at all. isn’t funny supposed to be manditory for comics?
Uhhh…I don’t eat at Wendy’s sorry…
Savage Love is great. I often turn to that section first for some much needed lulz. Plus it freaks out the SQUARES like the OP.
I watch folks on the bus read the Coast, and without exception, they go to Savage love first.
Kinda turns me on….
Savage Love’s syndicated column is a big draw and The Coast knows this, no euphemisms intended.
Savage Love is the best! I love Dan!
And even though he gets the most bizarre questions imaginable, his answers are always hilarious and (usually) reasonably sensible—no matter what your . . . uh . . . “inclination”, Dan is all about consent, fairness, honesty, safety, etc.
Oh, and OP, I happen to be going through a phase right now where I am getting completely fed up with people with kids attempting to dictate the reading/viewing choices of those without. God forbid your perfect precious little angel should ever discover an interest, sexual or otherwise, that you don’t approve of.
The reason I started picking up The Coast was to read Savage Love, and I’m sure a lot of people are the same. I now read a lot more (online mostly), but kids tell other kids about SL, and that’s what draws in new readers. I also used to really like the stories that were at the bottom of the page, but alas. And the food reviews.
It’s a great resource for kids who don’t want to ask their parents about sex (every kid, ever), or who can’t ask their parents about sex because their parents are religious nuts… like mine were.
I’d encourage my kids to read Savage Love. Not by actually telling them, but you know, leave the paper out for them to find… I’d feel better about them becoming sexually active if they were getting good advice about safety, consent, fairness (everything Ruby said) from Dan if they felt uncomfortable talking to me about it.
What I miss most are the bitches WITH replies – some of them were priceless.
The Coast is not a children’s paper, and there is nothing stopping children from purchasing equally racy magazines at the local Shoppers
Actually, I think most of my sex ed came from Ann Landers
My sex education came from nuns. In junior high, I was convinced a penis looked like a fiery pitchfork. The least the old crows could have taught me was how to masterbate with one of those motherfucking huge Easter candles.
Savage Love contains long blocks of dense text…if your “child” reads all the way through that, you should be grateful.
The paper is FREE and ACCESSIBLE to EVERYBODY. I don’t want my kids reading that crap but there’s no help for it, is there? I can police their internet usage but can I police every street corner where this paper is distributed? No. The first time I perused Savage love Dan was advising a 16 year old to let the boy fuck her with a toy. The last time I made the mistake of reading that section Dan says, “An empty, douched and lubed anal cavity isn’t that much dirtier than an empty, flossed and brushed oral cavity.” WHO in their right mind would teach a child such a thing? Dan Savage… indiscriminately to anybody who happens by this FREE publication.
Savage Love can be found at its original website; http://www.thestranger.com If so interested, Dan has a blog, and also has “extras”. The column is released a day earlier than The Coast also, so you can read the latest without waiting to find a copy of The Coast on a newsstand.
“I can police their internet usage” Yeah, right. Kids have access to computers in far more places than the home. They can hop on a public computer just about as easily as they can pick up a free paper, and unlike Savage Love, most internet discussions/displays of sex are certainly not intended to educate.
“Dan was advising a 16 year old to let the boy fuck her with a toy” Yes, Kay, a 16 year old that was sexually active but was averse to using contraception. Perhaps he should have just fed her the ol’ abstinence talk and sent her a ‘Congratulations on Being a Mom’ note down the road.
“WHO in their right mind would teach a child such a thing?” The man’s not lecturing at the local Jr High School, Kay, he writes a syndicated column picked up by papers that target an adult demographic. Sure some teens will end up reading it, but if anything they’re going to wind up with a lot more honest, accurate information and sex-positive attitudes than what they’ll receive from their peers or even at school.
Frankly, I think your prudishness, loathing for gays and obvious disdain for sexuality in general is a pretty good indication of the benefit of YOUR type of sex education.
zing!
“I can police their internet usage” I can say this with as much confidence as I can say my kid’s not hooked on dope, he’s not being diddled by his teacher and he’s not surfing porn on home or school computers. By your logic, meow, there’s no reason to censor anything from children since google knows all so I wholeheartedly disagree. I’m all for an information age but I’m all for responsible parenting too. A balance can be reached if we ALL respect the needs and the rights of a child.
I’m not so sure getting fucked by toys is a “sex positive” message to be giving young, horny, impressionable girls… ever. What would you think if a stranger encouraged YOUR 16 yr old daughter to do this? Just imagine what it would be like to know some whacko is advising your child AND her virgin friends to prepare for toy fucking as per “normal” or “safe” behaviors in their adolescence! These are RISKY behaviors for ANY child! I mean, I just shake my head and cover the girl’s ears so as not to give her any fucked up ideas as to what the hole is for and when to use it. I’d appreciate it if the public would leave her hole alone too. Nature WILL take it’s course soon enough.
“[the Coast] target[s] an adult demographic”. How so? The column we’re referencing speaks to a 16 year old CHILD! If Dan were caught having that same conversation in a more personal format s/he risks going to jail for interference with a minor. Giving your paper away to anybody who wants it is NOT “targeting” any specific demographic.
And I’m much too sexy, sensuous bitch to be called a prude, meow. I LOVE sex! Can’t get enough! Want it everywhere.. on the kitchen table, in the car, in the bar… LOVE to fuck, meow. There’s NO disdain for exciting sex in this girl nor do I “loath” gays, I simply don’t raise my children to be one. Do we really have to do this again? You accusing me of being some horrible monster who refuses to teach MY children Johnny sometimes loves Billy and you should identify with that?!? Well I don’t. I also don’t teach my kids that it’s okay to be an alcoholic. It’s not! That’s not to say “loath” alcoholics, just don’t BE one. I’m not the devil for wanting grandchildren, you know? I’m positive, meow, I’d be all for having my gay kid fit in better at school if he were gay but the simple truth is he’s not, I’m not, his father’s not, his aunts and uncles are not, etc. so, given my experience, butt-fucking, toy-fucking and all, this is my position! It does not make me the monster or hypocrite you want me to be it just makes me and my family heterosexual and more likely to have a long line of us endure the times.
Finally meow, it’s not gone unnoticed that you had nothing “sex positive” to say about Dan’s other referenced quote, “An empty, douched and lubed anal cavity isn’t that much dirtier than an empty, flossed and brushed oral cavity.” Imagine your kid learning THAT on the way home from school! You can look forward to a real “bright” future for kids who act on this, uh, BAD advice. Maybe Dan should have followed up with a lesson as to why you should not shit where you eat or is that a little “too straight” for this community too?
“nor do I “loath” gays, I simply don’t raise my children to be one.”
Just that statement alone shows how ignorant and bigoted kay is about homosexuality. Gay people aren’t gay because their parents raised them that way. Holy fuck.
Holy fuck indeed!
You know you’re a prude when you brag about having sex on a kitchen table or in a car.
DAMN KAY! You must be some kinda freak in the sack! Having sex on a table?!! Scandalous!!!!!
ahahahaha
At least somebody’s telling the kid it’s okay to feel good, not like they’re some moral pervert.
Don’t worry folks. kay’s just upset we don’t live in a religious fantasy land where the “homos” and the “perverts” aren’t burned at the cross, because of a few misinterpreted lines in a book written by a bunch of old men who barely understood Hebrew.
Shit, now I have to clean my keyboard, I just spit coffee all over it when I read Kay’s post. Wow. Just- wow.
“nor do I “loath” gays, I simply don’t raise my children to be one.” This, from the woman who claims all Nova Scotians are bigots, and she’s not. That sentence really says a lot.
Kay, you’ve got narrow-mindedness down to a science. Oh, and denial, too, because I know your retort will be some harebrained diatribe about how we’re all misreading or misunderstanding you and you’re the one who is above all negativity. Have at it. Should be fun to read.
If you think it’s the right thing to do, to encourage somebody’s daughter to fuck a toy at 16, it’s not. If you don’t believe me ask a cop, lawyer, judge, parent, teacher, doctor… ask them all! I’m sorry but it’s NOT okay the local, uncensored, FREE paper do it from any popular street corner or hangout. Have a child growing up “out there”, think about it long enough and you’ll find this irresponsible and as unacceptable as Playboy on the front rack of the convenience store checkout.
“At least somebody’s telling the kid it’s okay to feel good, not like they’re some moral pervert.” but Fever that’s NOT what Dan Savage is saying in his column. You should NOT feel good shitting where you eat. You should NOT feel good ignoring that little voice to give into the loud one, not at 16. Nor should you spend much time at 16 fucking your gf or thinking about fucking your gf with an object. You might end up objectifying women rather than sharing their love, ya know? And what if… what if the toy’s a little big but we go with the moment anyway? Is that okay with you too, that the 16 yr old be given an expectation that may NEVER be fulfilled by flesh? THAT’s why it’s called “interference”. And how does it sit with you that one of the 16yr old’s virgin friends might now lose her cherry to a toy given such persuasive advice from her “savagely” educated 16 yr old friend? Does this sound like the normal, healthy, sexual development of a normal, healthy child to you?
And fuck you, Fever, this has nothing to do with religion. I’m allowed to choose who I fuck just like you and I do, just like you. If you think you have the right to persuade my child to not reproduce you’ve got another thing comin’. You have as much right to do that as you do introducing him to your ovulating niece, which is to say you have none.
Just consider me “mother to Darwin”, a mother who plans to win at this survival of the fittest game. I’m not knockin’ the homosexual’s decisions but, if you don’t mind, I’d like to manage my child’s environment carefully to ensure MY desired outcome for MY progeny. If when the parenting is all done he wants to read a book called when Johnny loves Billy, he can do that as a sexually mature individual but I’m not going to pierce his ears for him and pretend his testicles producing sperm means nothing in a boy’s life. I know you all wish for him to be gay but he’s not and, yes, I’ll take some responsibility for that, thank you.
Why do you bitches insist on playing the sheep card over and over again, huh? I’m not sure what’s worse, you repeating yourself or me doing it. Probably the latter. Oh well, you asked for it.
Kay, what you are raising your children to be are possible closet cases. You will probably never know if your children are really straight of not, because if they are gay, they will be too scared to ever be honest and open with you about sex.
why would he be scared? because there are no books read to him at bedtime called when johnny loves billy? why do you presume my family doesn’t have an astoundingly open, honest and supportive relationship? why? because you’re gay and we’re not? really? why do you make this presumption, PAS?
Homosexuality as a result of parenting? Hhahahahahahahaha!
Teenagers not experimenting sexually? Hahahahahahahaha!
Who said “Teenagers not experimenting sexually?” Not me. Adults advising experimenting teenagers in such a fashion is at issue here, OceanBitch. I thought you said you have kids. Imagine Dan chatting up your horny, confused daughter then get a grip.
Sure, why not? Who am I to judge? From my perspective, as long as somebody’s telling them that it’s okay, and giving them a different perspective, it’s a great thing. That even includes if they’re a 16 year old. I’d feel the same way whether I was raising a child or not, because that’s how I was raised. I honestly feel sorry for your kids. They’ll grow up with the attitude of the typical bigoted white person, and if it’s different, it’s meant to be feared. Your kids will lead us to something less than survival if they grow up like you. A defensive, non-tolerant society will lead us down a path none of us want to go down, just to protect your “progeny” and “line”. I thought we let go of that family line bullshit over a century ago.
And you have the gall to call us sheep.
You just said that you teach your kids that they are not allowed to be gay. That means that if they are, telling you would result in disaster. So they will never be open with you about it. I know people who waited until their parents died before coming out of the closet because they knew their parents would never accept them.
I just read Kay’s post….now I feel like I need to purge.
The teenager asked for the advice, it wasn’t unsolicited. Consulting with an adult about sexuality issues. Isn’t that a better option than asking other kids and getting misinformation? A 16 year old is legally entitled to leave home and have sex anyway whether of the hetero or homo variety or both. What is the age of consent?
Did you know the age of consent in the Vatican is 12?
That’s cute.
You honestly feel “sorry” that my son has grown up horny for women and eager to procreate? What a fucked up way of thinking, Fever! My kids will grow up like me and PROCREATE. What EXACTLY is wrong with that?
I teach my children tolerance for gays, drug addicts, the homeless, the disabled and any other human minority you can think of. This does NOT translate into teaching my children to BE gay or drug addicted. Can’t you see the difference? I’m glad my children can wrap their heads around it. Tolerate it. Don’t BE it. WTF is bigoted about that?
OceanIdiot, I think you should go get that answer on your own. Go ahead, seduce a 16 yr old boy and discover for yourself what the age of consent is. Idiot.
Are there any sexual behaviors that are NOT okay with this community? Do you embrace bestiality too? What? You don’t teach your kids it’s okay to fuck the dog? Why not? Doesn’t that make you a bunch of intolerant bigoted bitches?
What you don’t seem to realize is that you can’t teach your kids “to be gay”. That’s the bigoted aspect of it. Have you ever sat down and talked to a gay man about what it’s like to be gay? Seriously?
Yes, I feel sorry for your kids, because the last thing on this Earth they should be concerned about is procreating. You’re born, you get a job, get a house, have 2.5 kids, and die. Again, you have the gall to call us sheep.
Also, kay
Being gay does not mean that you will never, can never, have children. Most of the gay adults I know have biological kids of their own and are excellent parents.
Are you kidding me? I can teach my kids to loath men, gays, blacks, and green beans if I put my mind to it. Human beings are the smartest creatures of all, Fever. You should try training one from birth some time. You’d be amazed how easy it is to FOREVER fuck up their ideas about sex.
See, there you go again, taking things to an irrational extreme. You might as well have said we should be tolerant of Nazis. Of course society doesn’t not tolerate a human having sex with an animal. It’s a dumb animal, so therefore it’s wrong and society as a whole has come together to say that.
You have never talked to a a homosexuality about their “choice”, then. You’re a bigot.
Sorry, you have never talked to a homosexual about their “choice”. And you’re still a bigot.
fizz… my point exactly! Your sexuality is your own choosing. So is obesity. It doesn’t mean we teach our children these behaviors are desirable BUT offer ice cream for supper every night and soon enough the kids are making such choices for themselves! By puberty they’ll even think it was their idea in the first place!
It’s not that homosexuals CAN’T procreate. They’re just not likely to so in the interests of having grand children someday I’ll encourage a heterosexual lifestyle for my children. This doesn’t make me an asshole. Hopefully it makes me a grandparent!
Fever, get over it. I’m not a bigot. I’m just… not… gay! Get the FUCK over it. MOST people are NOT. Holy fuck!
“If you think it’s the right thing to do, to encourage somebody’s daughter to fuck a toy at 16, it’s not.”
I’d rather encourage a 16-year-old to explore their sexuality in a safe, healthy way than hear about them trying the alternatives. Ignoring sexuality isn’t going to make it go away, so I’d much rather be taking steps to try and teach our youth safer ways of experimenting and exploring. That’s just me, though. Gah.
Never before have I heard or read, anything as stupid as someone stating that you can talk someone out of being gay !
The level of stupidity, has hit a new low here on this thread. Anyone who thinks they can ‘talk’ someone out of being gay, would believe they can talk a crow out of being able to fly.
Its just as monumentally stupid as stating you can talk someone into being gay!
I’m actually shocked by just how deluded someone truely has to be, to actually believe that idiocy, never mind to come out & publicly say it !
If ever there is a level of stupid that if one has reached it, or even if possible…. gone below that, they shouldn’t be allowed to procreate. This level of stupid is it !
I won’t because you haven’t answered my argument. Until you’ve actually had a serious, unbiased conversation with a homosexual, you’ll never see how bigoted you are sounding right now.
Oh, and bestiality has nothing to do with homosexuality. That is a tired old argument that even the worst anti-gay bigots have given up on. I thought you were above that, but I should have expected it what with all of your recent narratives about little boys fucking cats…
Stop sensationalizing things.
First it was soliciting sex from a 16 year-old and now it’s seducing a 16 year-old? Answering a question posted about sex in a newspaper column is not seduction (although your idea of wild exciting sex is fucking in a car, so I guess I see how you might have come to that conclusion).
“fizz… my point exactly! Your sexuality is your own choosing.”
Holy fuck, are you dumb? I’ve been saying that your sexuality is not your own choosing… over and over and over again. Whether or not you follow your sexuality is your own choosing, whether or not you come out is your own choosing. And gay kids who grow up with parents like you probably won’t follow their sexuality and wont ever come out to their parents. The odds are your kid is straight, but you’re teaching them that homosexuality is a choice and THAT means you’re teaching your kid to be a bigot.
Of course you have every right to believe this and every right to express your opinion about it, just like we have every right to argue your opinion and tell you how enormously stupid you are for thinking it.
What’s with all the name-calling? Your vitriol detracts from any point you were actually intending to make Kay. Too bad. The tactics of a bully become increasingly and boringly predictable. (Yawwwwn)
dudddddddddddddee.
shit just got real on this thread.
a little to real.
lets get back to being blissfuly ignorant for a couple seconds. (just kidding.)
seriously. the law that governs all others is shit happens.
its gonna hit the fan at some point.
for example, K might walk in on her kids engaging in a pretty heavy bout of homo-erotic fun. shit happens.
i dont think a section where some dude advises some lil girl to fuck a toy is gonna attribute to that in any such way. jeez. peeps need to stop smothering kids like their minds are sooo impresionable.
Shut it slit. Dumb prude.
Kay, you continue to be gross, ridiculous, and predictable. Thanks for making my point so easy to argue. Your sanctimoniousness and vitriol never cease to amaze even the most objective of bitchers. By your own admission you’re a former crackwhore, and a teen mother with a failed relationship with the originating sperm donor of your doomed progeny. Your idea of a wild sexual time is doing it outside of the Marital Bed. Missionary sex in a car, you deviant!!!!! I’m sure everyone is waiting with baited breath for your next bit of insightful relationship advice. You’ve proven yourself the lowest form of human life, more concerned with reproducing than with progressing. You’re an animal, Kay. Baaaaa.
So Kay, by your own thought process, You should be able to be eventually talked into being gay. If it can be taught that you shouldn’t be gay, it can be taught that you should. Do you really in your mind think that you could eventually be turned gay, or that as a child you had the possibility?
“Just consider me “mother to Darwin”, a mother who plans to win at this survival of the fittest game. I’m not knockin’ the homosexual’s decisions but, if you don’t mind, I’d like to manage my child’s environment carefully to ensure MY desired outcome for MY progeny.”
I wonder how many homosexual’s environments were managed by their mother’s when they were children to ensure that they DID become homosexual? How egotistical and narcistic does one have to be to actually believe they have ANY influence on the genetics they pass on to their child that are the determiners of that child’s sexuality? Many gay men and women become parents ensuring grandparent status for their parents so really how does ‘managing the environment’ of one’s child guarantee one will become a grandparent! I know many heterosexual people who choose to remain childless. There are no guarantees in life no matter what you may think you are planning for. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool!
To add to that…
“if you don’t mind, I’d like to manage my child’s environment carefully to ensure MY desired outcome for MY progeny.”
YOU YOU YOU, it’s all about YOU!
Fuck whats best for your kid! Fuck what your kids wants! ME ME ME ME ME!!!! Selfish, shame on you. You can only manage your kids environment so much before you have to let go and let them make their own decisions.
What if they decide they don’t want kids, regardless of their sexual orientation? What are you going to do then? Scrape some sperm off the inside of a tube-sock you find in the laundry and freeze it?
Believe me, I’ve “known” girls whom have explored their own sexuality at a decent age (> 15) with toys etc, and they tend to be more in control of themselves and their urges as they have a release. Girls with prudish parents who think toys are the way of the devil, lets just say they usually end up as freaks, and I mean that in the best possible way.
So hears to kay “teaching” sons to be gays and daughters to be freaks in the sheets!
wow, back on the kay-bashing bandwagon… whether deserved or not….
all I had to do was scan to see all the kay pics of her ‘defending’ herself and her ‘interestingly narrow minded’ point of view.
personally, I don’t like the savage article either… but only because I think he takes just a biased view on certain issues as … well… kay. I don’t get why people all rush to flip to that last page every week…. but that’s just me. y’all want to learn what is opinion is on a Transvestite robot fucking a rabbit up the ass while screaming the lyrics to songs from the hit musical Rent… well I suppose that’s on you. me, I’d just as soon check out the Gus advert of the week. They’re at least a little creative in such a small space.
and the cartoons have been horrific at best for a LONG time now…
I don’t see that ever changing. just a waste of a page. Now, I ‘m not saying I could do any better… but I’m saying people would likely react the same… skip it.
Sorry zZz if I appear to be ‘Kay-bashing’. I am not bashing Kay. I am slamming her incredulous supposition that she is in control of another human being’s sexual orientation. It is Kay who insists on Ocean-bashing with her Ocean-victim and Ocean-idiot tags. People employ name-calling tactics in an attempt to compensate for the lack of intellectual content in their arguement. The result is that this tactic backfires. Instead of making a successful point it dismisses the person’s arguement and their credibility.
To each his own, but it’s hard to find a columnist who isn’t biased.
Isn’t being biased the point of being a columnist? People don’t read columns for their unbiased facts, that’s what the news is for, and even that’s biased. People read columns for the writers point of view… especially advice columns.
of course they’re biased…especially that crazy dr. laura. i lean left so i prefer the globe to the post but soon no more beloved newsprint. as long as it doesn’t become like a p.k. dick novel i can carry on
Always can tell when Kays full of crap . Only parent in the world that has 100 percent control of what where who and why her kid sees something and what it is . Congrats on doing what no other parent can do – have 100 percent control of what where and how your teen age kids sees and does . Super women !!!!!!! Where did you get your super powers from ?