To the dorky red-haired dude I went on one date with: I met you because my friend works with you. He told me you were looking for a woman and gave me your number. I saw pics of you on his Facebook and you weren’t my type at all. But I decided to give you a chance and contacted you. Looks aren’t everything and maybe you had a great personality, and maybe seeing you in-person would make me attracted.

We messaged one another for a week. I still wasn’t sure if I wanted to meet you. I had three exams to write in a period of two days and I didn’t really have time. But you messaged me and said you really wanted to meet me around that time. Even though I told you I had exams, you insisted. I reluctantly agreed. You picked the place and the time. I agreed being the easy-going woman I am.

I met you and found you even LESS attractive in-person, but still gave you a chance. We didn’t click, there was no chemistry. We both ordered food and drinks, and the server put it all on one bill. You suggest we split it. WTF… split it? This date was your idea. One who asks is the one who pays! I agreed to the splitting, but then saw how busy the server was and didn’t want to slow her down by getting her to change it (having been a server before, I knew how annoying it was to change bills around because customers don’t tell me beforehand how they want their bills done). I waited for you to take the initiative and cover it. Realizing you weren’t going to, outta sheer politeness and class, I paid for the whole kit and kaboodle on my debit at the front cash.

You stood there and watched me pay all $40 worth of it plus the tip. You never bothered to insist on still paying your part, you didn’t even pull out some cash to hand to me! Not even a thank you! Being a cheap ass, you displayed no class at all. You did drive me home (that’s the least you could have done), the whole 10 min drive, and had the fucking nerve to ask for $5 gas money! I couldn’t believe the shock you displayed when I told you NO and your dinner was sub for any gas money! What the fuck! I’m a full time student, I only work one day a week because of my schedule! You work two jobs and are not in school! How could you have had the nerve to ask out a student on a date, knowing she was on a budget, and not pay for the damn date!!! Needless to say, there will not be another date. With your cheapness, selfishness, ugly mug, and bright orange hair, you’re well off to stay single for a looooong time! —Turned Off Lady

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  1. well, at least you gave the guy a try, even tho it didn’t work out. but you just never know. maybe you went into this with a pre-concieved idea for it to fail. i know a lot of red haired dudes, that are fantastic people, and all are happily married, for a long time. maybe you should look at getting a dildo?

  2. I would have looked at him and been like I have no money… you invited me so I assumed you were paying…

    There is no way I would have even gave this red head boy a chance, little on paying for everything.

    Ugh the nerve of some people drive me nuts.

  3. sounds like it timothy, i will refrain from posting pictures of gingers. it’s not my job^^

  4. what a shitty time…
    it must have been horrible for you to have to be seen in public with someone ‘ugly’ and cheap…
    on the bright side… they ARE ugly and cheap so…
    take solace with that fact.

    anyone thinking Zilla’s a ginger?

  5. No. Zilla is def not a ginger.

    Hay guyyys, I have a dilemma I need your helpz with….

    Anyone willing to listen to a sad apple talk about sad things?

  6. I take it you don’t want to do it here. You can vent on my hotmail if you want and I’ll see it when I’m home. That is, if you think a 50 year old glue sniffer’s perspective might help.
    At the very least big hugs to the sad apple.

  7. yeah, lesson learned OP. There were some red flags (pun intended) from the start. He insisted that you meet him on his time, came on really strong, wouldn’t take no for an answer. These things are all the sign of a desperate loser. My question is why would you agree to it, especially being that you didn’t even find him attractive. Could there be a bit of desperate loser in you? Might have to step your game/standards up.

  8. I went on a date like this once. it truly was a horrible experience. it makes you feel like he was doing his friend/you a favour for even being seen with you.

  9. Maybe I’m just weird but when I go on dates I PLAN to pay for my own slop 🙂 None of this “OMG I SPENT 20 BUCKS ON YOU/WASTE OF MONEY” thangs being thrown around.

  10. You should of initially said no just based on the fact that he was a ginger! Ewww. Seriously, what a damn fool! Looking like THAT buddy was lucky to get a date in the first place, he should of bought your meal, drove you home for free and paid a months rent for you!

  11. you can feel free to e-mail me as well PK. Kind of a busy day today but I’ll try and offer any help I can.

  12. I swear I think I know this guy! Sounds like a guy I work with… won’t even give a guy a lift home from work, 2 mins away, ON HIS ROUTE, without charging him for gas.
    Same physical description, too. I near keeled over when I read this.
    I feel sad for the single girls around here…not much left to choose from.

  13. wow… just because he’s a “ginger” doesn’t mean he’s ugly.
    just like not every blond is attractive.
    it’s a fucking hair colour

  14. Thanks, guys. My dad is very sick and in the hospital and I was scared shitless until I visited today. Encouraging news. So things are good for now. 🙂

  15. i’d say you could message me but i don’t know how comfortable you would be messaging someone you don’t really know about things like that

  16. Amen to that Amy, “He who invites, pays” ought to be in the top 5 rules of proper masculine dating etiquette. Goes along with opening doors and maybe pulling/presenting the chair if the restaurant / guy is classy. Not sure the classic ‘opening car doors’ applies anymore though. Constant blackberry/iphone/smartphone use is wholly unacceptable; only exception being for doctors on call and emergency service people.

    Or maybe I’m just old-school when it comes to gallantry.

    PK, glad your dad isn’t doing as badly as you feared and best wishes to his prompt recovery.

  17. Thanks, guys. Today’s visit was a 180 from yesterday’s. He’s actually lucid now and wants visits/to talk. He doesn’t remember much from the past four days. He’s doing super well now and isn’t on morphine anymore for infection-related pain.

    I was just concerned because I didn’t seem overtly worried and my dilemma was: am i reacting normally? I think part of that is my response to crises — I freak out over unimportant little things, and I’m great in a real crisis.

    In any event, I less than three all of y’all. Thanks for the well wishes! 🙂

  18. Wow OB !
    I can understand why your pissed at Mr Personality plus.
    But look at it this way, from now on when your down & blue, think of this loser & how lucky you are not to have him in your life & you’ll never have to deal with him again … EVER !
    THat should put a smile back on your face ~;)

  19. I just finished reading the replies to this thread….sorry to hear about your dad PettyK, its nice to hear he’s on the mend.
    Its always tough when parents get hurt/sick.
    Always makes me feel so helpless, knowing there’s S.F.A. that I can do… & I hate that feeling. Almost as much as the waiting !

  20. Sounds like he’s on his way to getting better, PK. The whole lack of lucidity he had before could very well have been because of the morphine itself.

  21. Yesterday was rough because the sepsis was still raging and his lung collapsed and he developed pneumonia. He had to have emerg surgery to remove the infection from his leg.

    He still hasnt eaten anything yet (hasnt since wednesday) but is drinking boost now on his own (we ha d to make him yesterday). Today he was his old chatterbox self And that is OMG so comforting.

    Again thanks for the well-wishes. I really appreciate them, guys. Dad still has a ways to go but at least we can SEE some improvement!

  22. Kitty, your reaction is perfectly normal – as my long-planted ex used to say: ‘Don’t trouble trouble ’til trouble troubles you.’ I’m great in a crisis but when I misplace my brass toe hinges, hide the fucking ice pick!

    Glad to hear your dad is making progress. We loyal bitchers are always here for you, Fearless Leader. Now all cyber-hug – awwwwww…….

  23. “He told me you were looking for a woman and gave me your number.”

    I don’t know. Does that come off as a little casual? Like OP would date just about anybody? Sorry OP, just the way that sounds.

    ***IRONY ALERT***Redhead or not, this guy knows how to sweep a lady off her feet, just a born romantic.

    Glad to hear your Dad is feeling better PK, I hope he’s on the mend.

  24. WHAT IS TIME?

    Presuposed in this bitch is a concept of “time” as something “one can waste.” But is this true? How can one “waste” time? Is it some kind of resource like, say, fish stocks? Money in the bank? Is it a private possession at all? To make sense of the the title of the bitch one must ask the embedded question, “What is time?”

    Of course Kant, the 18th. century German philosopher, claimed that time along with space were the two categories constitutive of earthly bodies and of conscious awareness itself. Everything (and everyone) in other words, was necessarily situated in time and space. To speak of something (or someone) independently of such situatedness was meaningless. But Kant distinguished “reason” (vernunft) from “intellect” (verstand) and the distinction is significant. The second (intellect) seeks truth in the sense of how things work, how they “hang together” and, as such, being in the world is necessarily constrained by the concept of time (and space). But this is to be distinguished from the first (reason or vernunft) which seeks not so much truth in the sense of how things hang together but rather their meaning, their purpose, their end in view, their “telos.” As a human constant therefore, reason transcends time and is by definition a “trancendental,” that which subsists independently of both time and space.

    So what is one to make of the bitcher’s complaints in terms of the Kantian categories of time and space? She might begin, it seems to me, by distinguishing whether she means them in the sense of “verstand” or “vernunft.” Well, it’s a start.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  25. as a male, whenever i took any female out, i always paid, and not at fucking mickey d’s either. i’ve seen me pay over 200 bucks for an evening with a lady, and not expect a piece of tail at the end, altho i would never say no. i have seen my share of cheap bastards, both male and female too many times.
    i used to date a female, who insisted on paying for everything, usually with a fifty. then down the road, i found out that she was a high priced call girl. did i let that bother me, nope, not in the smallest way. we parted company one night, after being together for about a year, and i have never seen her since.
    and i did not know that she planned on not being there anymore.i have often wondered what ever became of her, and hope for the best, not the worst. yep, some people can be assholes, and then you know, not to date them anymore. and as i said o.p., you gave the dude a chance, he fucking blew it, big time. don’t let that turn you off the red haired males tho, there are some really nice ones out there, and no, my hair is black, with a touch of gray.

  26. MontrealMan, Are you this boring in person?
    My turn to be philosophical.

    “Live long and prosper.”, Spock, 23rd Century.

  27. Valid except mentioning the hair. What the fuck is with the ginger hate? It’s basically the same as racisim and I loose all respect for anyone who discriminates against fucking hair color, pathetic.

  28. At least you gave him a chance OB. Too bad he was a loser. I myself would never date a red head. I am not attracted to them in any way.

    Glad to hear that your dad is doing better PK!

  29. RSVPs

    : Senor Campana(April 10, 7:08AM)

    Only to half-wits like you.

    : Ivan Wannabe (8:03AM)

    “… wrapped around the wheel about semantics…”

    Does that scan? Don’t you mean “the wheel OF semantics”?

    Anyway, I see that the definition of “semantics” (The American Collegiate Dictionary) is: “Linguistics. the study of meaning and changes of meaning.” Recall Kant’s “vernunft” and its conceptual identity with meaning. Does that mean you are a Kantian? Would you want to expand on your affiliation?

    Alternatively, is your claim of “semantics” dismissive? Does it mean that you see no “word-world relation”? If so, would you like to support your claim? I await your reflections with keen anticipation.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  30. ginger and red head is the same thing. its just an insult. and why one extreme to the other. if they’re the same thing with one being a negative way to say it… no need for 2 pictures.
    this whole “ginger” thing makes me feel like everyone is in grade 3 again. and i’m sure the people that call them that sure aren’t perfect.

  31. Sounds like the guy has a chip on his shoulder — because of the gingerness, likely.

    He’s likely not attractive. Some people just aren’t nice looking, and whatever the reason (in this case, it’s probably the flaming orange hair) most ugly people know they’re ugly. Our own worst critics are ourselves, guys.

    Face it — some people are uggos. I don’t know why we all have to dance around realities.

  32. PK sending warm thoughts to you and your dad…hope you will accept them, seeings as I’m a ginger and all…

  33. I’m a little late in sending this but thinking about you, PK, and hoping your dad is doing better. Sending good vibes his and your way.

  34. Yeah MM. Well you’re a poopyhead and a smellyface. I can’t think up big words like you cause us folks here in the Maritimes only have grade eleventy-two.

    OP. Nothing wrong with gingers.

  35. RSVP

    : Senor Campana (April 10, 12:19PM & 3:42PM)

    I see that it took you more than three hours to come up with “poopyhead and smelly face” which indicates both (1) my dismissal of your comment “Are you this boring in person?” continued to rankle and (2) the poverty of your linguistic attainments which, clearly, are negligible to the point of nullity.

    My initial reaction to your remark was not the remark itself which, of course, was mindlessly trivial, but rather that you thought your psychological state – in this case your boredom – was worthy of posting on the bitchboard comments. Are you able to grasp the fact that this simply indicates a case of pathological egomania? You assume that your psychological state of boredom is both enormously important in itself and a matter of consuming interest to the readers of those comments. You must struggle to realize that this is not the case. But I suppose one must have some degree of sympathy for you since it seems that your boredom is all that you have.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  36. RSVP

    : Senor Campana (April 10, 7:24PM)

    Are you this boring in person?

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  37. RSVP

    : Senor Campana (April 11, 11:45AM)

    That must be some party.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  38. OMF you must be dating one of my exes. Ditch the doufuss … um 2 words: Red pubes! Nuff said. You should have told him you had to go to the bathroom and abort the sitch. You’ll know for next time then.

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