What really pisses me off are people who are raised and educated in Nova Scotia, go West for their careers (where they pay taxes for years to other provincial governments) then return to Nova Scotia for their retirement to become a burden on the rest of us with their aging health care expenses. They should pay user fees as they are a financial drag on the rest of us.—Screwloose
This article appears in Apr 8-14, 2010.
Maybe if the province wasn’t a financial drag on all of us in the first place, they wouldn’t be heading west.
dude shouldn’t you be torturing animals to death dressed in your mommies underwear with a dido hanging out of your bunghole; cause it’s running late 🙂
Stop whining and take care of your parents. They raised you, educated you…
That’s why we get transfer payments from the Feds.
It’s cheap to retire here…that’s why they come back. Plus Rick Mercer had that story that we place our old and dead on ice floes.
Canada is Canada.
We have the right (guaranteed by the Constitution) to go to other cities or provinces for education, work, or just for a change of scenery. We have the right to move back if or when we feel like it. (The right to travel within one’s borders is not universal; there are many places where internal travel is controlled or restricted.)
It’s far from ideal that so many people in NS HAVE to move away when they would rather not, but those issues can’t be fixed just by tacking on a user-fee for those who have lived elsewhere for a while.
Plus, do you have any idea how much money comes back here from Out West? It’s in the millions and millions each year. There are definitely businesses that do very well here in NS because of the money sent back by people working in other provinces.
People who move away to work are not the cause of the problems here in NS. Land, resources, low population, the global economy . . . all have an effect on our relative wealth and success.
No need to create additional disincentives for Canadians trying to better themselves.
Who the f is tamika hoe and why are there comments about her on every bitch here
I officially hate Out West…
all of Alberta can die in an Oil fire for all I care.
well, i personally want to pick off all the rodeo riders with the long range…no one else will get hurt i promise
One Shot-One Kill Paingirl. I’ll lend you Vassily Zaitsev’s outobio. when I’m done.
aaah i have garnered much from you…my world is gray but occasionally veers to black
Just lay blame to quebec and ontario for all thats wrong in NS and maritimes in general. Man I love danny Mcdonald for standing up and beefing for whats his . ( IE off shore oil and gas ). After all isn’t itg ontario and quebec that steals all the money from us and takes all thats good and earned and take it there?
No need to be hating on ” out west “. Unfortunately Scotians and maritimers in general have to come here for the $6000 a month jobs that are not offered back home .Blows ass but thats how it is .
As a canadian we have the right to follow any strong economy and work in it provincially . All you need to do is pay taxes and change your drivers license over after 30 days and your set .
As for being a burden on the health care system provincially – you must be a dummy to even suggest it . You thinking maybe that NS or any other province is not part of Canada? We all have the right to use what we pay into .In whatever province you live in . So lets say you get hurt travelling in NB ONT or AB – maybe we should just send your busted up ass back to NS because your a burden? Fuck me – your dumb
The OP is right. Schooled in NS, University in NS all heavily subsidized by NS tax payers. Move to/work in Toronto and pay taxes to Ontario until 65 while healthy. Retire to NS, pay little/no tax and bitch about health care being paid by the few actual tax paying age Nova Scotians. Alberta would like to give us more equalization dollars via the feds but for every dollar they give us they have to give 8 to Quebec (and I’m sure that’s 8 too many). The problem is health care and education are provincial not federal and the current equalization scheme and division of provinces is archaic.
Transfer payments go into the provincial budget for the province to spend. Nova Scotia gets about 3 Billion from the Feds, of which about 600 million is earmarked specifically for healthcare but most of it is available for use in health care. Nova Scotia’s budget is about 9 billion and we spend about 36% (3.2 billion) of it on health care, so the money from the feds could cover most of our health care costs, if you want to see it that way.Also, Canadian universities are subsidized by the federal government using an, albeit ineffective, federal funding formula. The comment that “health care and eduction are provincial not federal” refers primarily to the administration of these things, not the funding.
In addition, the young and the retired pay income, sales and property taxes while they are here and therefore contribute to their own health care costs. As well, these groups have the highest rates of volunteerism and so they are essentially contributing to our communities in many ways without renumeration.
The average income of retired persons is about $20,000 and the per capita Nova Scotian income is about $31,000 so seniors will contribute about 1/2 to 2/3 of what younger people will pay when all the sales and income taxes are combined. Hardly the moochers they are being made out to be.
Finally, only about 20% of seniors are heavy users of health care while the rest use it at the same level as younger people. As NN and others have pointed out, one of the most positive aspects about this country is the freedom to move to where the economic strength is so that we can all provide for our families in the best way possible.
http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/site-finance/…
http://www.gov.ns.ca/finance/statistics/ag…
http://www.mta.ca/faculty/arts-letters/can…
Thanks Miles, that is informative. I imagine that the average income of Nova Scotians who leave would be well above the 31k of those who stay. I believe there are many tax advantages once retired as well that would reduce the contributions, as well as fewer house/car/major purchases. I don’t doubt the young and old contribute but we do appear to be disadvantaged by losing the most financially productive segment of our population. If our demographics are not the same as Alberta/BC/Ont it seems unfair to have to compete with them for health care workers that are paid provincially to meet national standards. ie. We don’t have a Vancouver/Ft McMurray/TO boosting our economy. As an extreme example -how the hell does PEI make a go of things? It would be like asking a small -not particularly well off- Toronto suburb to be its own province and keep up with the services offered by the rest of Ontario. It just doesn’t make sense to me….
how many puppets you got goin’ there, victim?