To the security guard at the concert: “Why the hell would you care if I took two unopened beer out of the beer area”. They were in my pocket and I was going to drink them at home on the couch. To add to your stupidity you tried to ban me from the beer area. Did you really think I was not going to just walk down to the other entrance and go it that way? Instead of accepting the inevitable you looked like a complete moron digging through my pockets to get those two beer out. Two beer that I just went and bought again and put back in my pockets. And what the hell was that yell “Officers!”. I called your bluff, I didn’t see any, and plus that’s not what the cops are for, to help you be a dick. Thankfully there were cool security guards there, ones that did not go out of their way to be an ass. I took those two beer home and finished getting gorked on the couch thank you very much.
Happy Drunk until you were a prick
This article appears in Jul 2-8, 2009.
why would you buy beer at a concert to drink at home?
Did it occur to you that perhaps the security guard was simply enforcing a condition of the liquor license for the event? The beer area was for consumption of beer purchased at the event, the sale of beer for take-out isn’t usually allowed by the NSAGC.
I love it when people bitch about a person who is doing their job. Taking beer (opened or not) from any venue is illegal and the venue can be shut down. What a moron.
….yeah you taught him real good…. LOL…
while I agree some security are cop wannbees and can and do abuse their authority and enjoy doing it….the beer tent have strict rules b/c they must abide by several legislative pieces…. if the liquor inspector found out you left the marked site zone the event can lose their permit forever because of you…..so while it may not be a big to do to you…it would ruin events for thousands of others…..
try not to be to selfish… may be your inebriated state is to blame????….. 😉
Asses are asses plain and simple. This drunk doesn’t care that he was in the wrong. I guess you can hope that noone from the NSAGC reads this or cares. If there is no beer area next year you know who to blame. lol. Obviously they need to look at the security company they hire alittle better too. If only 1 choose to do their job.
JD the only reason he would buy the beer there is because the beer stores were closed.
It is called a LIQUOR LICENSE moron!! If the liquor inspector was there and happened to see the security dude letting you walk out with two beer they would lose their license. Is this so tough to understand?! Maybe you also think that people should be able to go in there with their own booze and drink THAT as well? Get a grip.
The beer tent at public events is just like any other licensed establishment…take-home alcohol is not permitted. Period.
Better planning would have ensured an adequate supply of beer was chilling in your refridgerator at home awaiting your arrival from the concert and given the security staff one less incident to have to deal with making it a better time for all.
hey bitches, what’s the different between two UNOPENED beer on this side of the line or that side of the line? Last I heard I’m allowed to purchase liquor and take it home unopened. If you take it from me it’s theft. Simple.
If the liquor inspector were there he’d be all over them about “retailing” liquor as opposed to “serving” it.
I wasn’t aware that part of a security guard job description was being “cool.” It’s pretty much the opposite. That’s why they’re called security guards, and not “looking the other way while people try to pull shit” guards.
Kay if you serve someone a beer and they choose to try and take it home thats not the servers fault. unless they knew what he was doing.
“hey bitches, what’s the different between two UNOPENED beer on this side of the line or that side of the line? Last I heard I’m allowed to purchase liquor and take it home unopened. If you take it from me it’s theft. Simple.”
Try that at a bar or other licensed place and you can be stopped and it can be taken from you. This was not a liquor store but a drinking spot. That is the difference.
Again I would think they would give the contract to some other security company next year, one that would do its job and work as a team.
Kay- you are wrong. Although. technically, you are right in syaing that the beer should not have been served unopened, you are still not allowed to LEAVE with it..period, end of story. That is the law. I was there last night and am having a hard time figuring out how he got his hands on two unopened beer. My guess is that he stole them. I had 3 beer last night and EVERY one (and every other person I saw served all night) was opened and poured into a glass.
Gone from bitch to thieving criminal, just like that. Keep it up, Bobby, and you’ll grow up to be a cop.
Of course you can leave with an unopened beer just like you can leave the NSLC with unopened beer. If it were illegal to walk around with unopened beer on your person it would be illegal to purchase it from anywhere. THAT is the law.
Like I said, it should never have been “served” without being opened. That’s called retailing and their liquor permit would not extend that far.
If I were mcgayle I’d probably have the security guard charged with theft and follow it up with a civil suit, likely harassment, given the security guard appeared to be in a position of authority over the OP while stealing his bought, paid for and unopened beer. But since I chose my fights more carefully than that and since I’m most effective putting all my efforts into a single cause… I’d let this one go.
Buying alcohol from a bar/restaurant/beer tent is different from buying it at the NSLC. Different rules apply. You can’t compare the two. Your argument is flawed.
It’s not. Either you have a permit to SERVE or you have a permit to RETAIL. The difference is in a cap (and a whole bunch of confused bitches).
Of course they should’ve opened the bottle before serving it – that’s a no-brainer. But for the OP to realistically have the expectation he’d be allowed to take the beers home with him? I seriously doubt it. Not only are there signs posted and security there to prevent it, but if he really thought that he was allowed, why’d he try to sneak them out?
No one is that ignorant.
And which permit do you think the venue had Kay? To serve or to retail?
Kay- I am not trying to grow up and be a cop. I just happen to have worked within the industry and am well aware of the liquor laws. Opened, or unopened, he had no right to go past the gate with beer that was purchased on the premises. Just because it was unopened does not mean that they were “retailing it”. I suggest you check your facts.
I don’t think the security guard had any reason to believe buddy when he says “yeah I’m just gonna drink it on my couch (and not, say, give it to those two 13-year-olds over there).” Unless of course we live in a world where everyone always tells the truth.
kay your argument is very, VERY flawed. seriously, your sense of logic is just…….senseless. i’ve worked at the nslc, in bars, at licensed events that are not establishments and as a liquor rep; my knowledge of the alcohol and gaming commission is somewhat fair.
its policy to open bottles/cans at events.
nevermind is very right: its a completely different story to purchase from a retailer and from a licensee.
you’re not God.
Kay, do yourself a favour, learn the law. At one time you had to have the receipt on your person to transport alcohol bought at the liquor store. And only very recently were you allowed to keep it out of the trunk (which is out of reach to the driver). This ain’t Cowtown with “off sales” and even there they need special licences to do so.
If you “open” liquor inside the NSLC, staff can call the police, detain you and then let the cops take you.
Believe me – I’ve had it done to people who think their rights outweigh their actual privilege.
Kay, if the place has a “beer area” that means that it is most likely an all ages show, which means that NO alcohol unopened or not is allowed outside of the beer area.
THis may be the law..but the law is stupid.
You cannot ‘serve’ beer unless you’ve SOLD IT TOO ME IN THE FIRST PLACE !
So you running the beer tent, bar whatever, are a retailer (technically ). The whole system is geared to protecting NSLC’s booze selling monopoly, & that’s why you can’t purchase it there & bring it home. There are places in Canada where buying sealed beer from a bar & taking it home is normal.
Unfortunately STUPID Laws are still Laws & by taking Beer from the venue, you opened yourself to possible legal action & you possibly risked the liquor license of the venue as well.
I hate to seem like I’m backing stupidity…but the Security Guard was only doing his job, to blame him for that is IMO wrong .
Only those with the ‘whitest’ of brains from constant ‘brainwashing’ would be in support of such a stupid law..N.S. is so damn backwards in so many areas it still boggles my mind that Sunday shopping was allowed !
Read it here folks: http://www.gov.ns.ca/just/regulations/regs…
58 (1) Except as provided in subsection (2) for re-corked wine, a licensee must not permit liquor that was sold in their licensed premises to be taken from the premises.
Kay?! Hello Kay?!?! Thanks Mike for providing the FACTS. I know..they can be inconvenient at times
I’m assuming that this is the the same outdoor beer tent that I was working on Canada Day…
Kay you’re right in that it should never be served unopen. I’m not entirely sure if that is just policy or the liquor law, but it’s something that is never supposed to be done at a bar. That being said, like when you purchase beer at a bar, all the same laws exist. You can’t take it outside of the designated area (in this case, the fence), you can’t smoke in the same area as you can drink (plenty of people left their beer at the front entrance, went for a smoke and came back to get it) and you can’t have anyone under the age of 19 enter the gates. If you went downtown, bought a couple of beers and tried to take them home to drink on the couch, they would be confiscated and you probably wouldn’t be allowed back in (really up to security and staff to decide). And there were cops there, although later on in the night they weren’t in the beer garden area.
And finally, the OP is really lucky. There’s another security guard who, had he been involved, probably would have literally picked you up by the shirt and booted you out. Security guards aren’t there to put up with your bullshit, they’re there to keep people like you from ruining everyone else’s good time.
I just love that the OP was still freaking out about this the next day after the event when he wrote this.
I’ve seen tons of drunken idiots try to sneek alcohol outside the designated area, be it a beer tent, bar, restaurant patio, then get indignant when they get caught. But most everyone admits that they were in the wrong when they sober up!
More: Sunday shopping was NOT allowed. The citizens of this province voted against it in a plebicite. The big store chains just went ahead and did what they wanted anyway, with no repercussions!
It does not matter which side of the vote one suported. Democracy was lost on this issue. What if the issue was decapitation of say, every fourth individual, the majority ruled against it and they went ahead and did it anyway? So much for living in a democratic society!!!
That’s not exactly true, Oceanlady. Many stores worked around the Sunday shopping law by subdividing into a bunch of smaller stores, just like Pete’s. Then Rodmac decided to overturn the plebiscite’s decision.
Not exactly true either – the stores did subdivide to get below square footage requirements, but RodMac tried to stop that for happening to everyone but Pete. He drafted regulations that would allow Pete but not others.
Turns out Rod didn’t have the power to do that, it was the Court that quashed the provisions siding with the grocery chains – RodMac then went a step further than expected and repealed the regulations completely – leaving Sunday shopping wide open.
And for the record, HRM specifically voted yes for Sunday Shopping, though the effect of the Sunday shopping decision is obviously felt throughout the province where they did not vote the same way.
The end result is the same. Those who successfully voted against Sunday Shopping were disregarded and overturned rendering the plebicite an exercise in futility.
Yes, Oceanlady, the result was the same so that people who wanted to shop on Sunday could and people who didn’t could stay the fuck home and stop whining about something that’s done and over with. Frankly this should have never been put to public vote in the first place. Or maybe you think the public should vote on every little government agenda? Get over it already. If you don’t want to shop on Sundays then DON’T!!
BRoc: Whether I choose to shop on Sunday’s or not is not the point or anyone else’s business really. My post was not about mine or other’s views on Sunday shopping. My comment was about democracy or in this case, the lack of it. It is prudent to distinguish the difference before slamming someone to really make a valid and effectual point.
You’re right Oceanlady, and if your point is about democracy then consider the fact that we exercise our democracy by voting on who runs the government, not on what they govern. So further to my point, the plebiscite on Sunday shopping was unnecessary and useless. A matter such as Sunday shopping should have never been a concern of the government to begin with. Instead of the plebiscite, the government should have simply lifted the Sunday shopping ban to begin with
Oh man I knew I would have to recite the C.C.C to you kay:
(C.C.C means codifie criminae conifer, which actually means criminal code of canada to the lay man like you)
ANyways it says in section 25 subsection iii) para b)
Thou shall not ever take a beer from a partying grounds (then it goes on to state public house, beer garden, watering hole, etc, you can read it yourself I just quoted you the section and subsection don’t be so lazy).
I know a great treatment program I could recommend to you, i used to steal beers all the time before I got rehabilitated.
ps oceanlady i just read your comment and your usage of “prudent” was off to say the least. I would use prudent like this:
A prudent man moors his boat with two anchors.
glad I could help.
PS RichieCanuck:
The Concise Oxford Dictionary > prudent a. (of person or conduct)careful to avoid undesired consequences; circumspect, discreet; hence or cogn.
I stand uncorrected. Glad I could help:)
There are a couple of bars I know staff at & you ask for ‘road rockets’, you get your favorite flavor handed to you unopened & you discretely pocket it.
While I’m all for laws that MAKE SENSE, I go around, or ingnore the real Stupid ones that have a negative effect on my day 🙂
I’m sure the bars in question will appreciate More telling the public about the “road pockets”. I’m sure someone in the enforcement office reads these bitches and will set up stings which in turn will lead to suspensions.
Now start saving up some cash More as I’m sure the bar staff will appreciate some donations from you during unpaid time when the bars are closed.
yeah More because we know who you are and what/where you’re talking about… get real, VOR. Why should off-sales be illegal anyway?
Okay okay, I getchya about event permits. Okay? OKAY???? Holy fuck! Don’t have a cow!
But let’s talk Sunday shopping… it’s a complete turning away from observance of traditional Christian values and some fanatics would go so far as to say it interferes with their right to practice their faith and infringes on their belief Sunday is a day of rest. Nay-sayers would say, “then don’t work on Sundays, nobody is forcing you to work” but is that true? When our government backs an entrepreneur’s right to earn money every day of the week they provide a mechanism to work Sundays or be fired with cause.
I see it from both sides as an unfortunate conundrum but, like everything else, capitalism has decided societal morals on your behalf. God bless and long-live the Loonie.
Kay – off sales should be illegal because it goes against the conditions of the bar’s liquor license. I have no problem with a bar getting hit with penalties for breaking the regulations. They knew the rules when they applied for the license.
And I’m curious about one thing kay: if you hate this region and its people so much, based on reading your frequent posts, when are you packing up and going to whatever cave you crawled out of?
VOR, I moved out of the heart of the city so the stink couldn’t stick. To answer your question, this economy has me stuck here for the time being. You don’t mind if I make the best of it, do you?
I think that all this talk of liquor laws is distracting from the really shocking thing about this complaint: Only a complete moron pays festival beer tent prices for two beers which they want to take home and drink on the couch?
Not at all kay, fill your boots while here. At least NS is doing well compared to other regions of the country during so-called tough economic times.
I never thought I’d see Newfoundland as a ‘Have’ province and Ontario a ‘Have-Not’ province in my lifetime.
Gee a tank of gas will get you out of here.
Bro Tim, I recommend you read Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus to see what a very typical male response that was… and quite useless too. Thanks.
Just because Venusians need to travel 100 kms to cross the bridge, don’t blame me.
Haha, so what if a security guard gave you hell for taking two beers out of the beer tent and out into the concert. Those guards, who work for () happen to take shit from people every fucking day. Hell, those guards are the people I work for, so in my opinion — they were doing their jobs, so good for them for giving you hell. And not all of us are “dicks”, some of us give a damn.