Ok, I get it. If you can spread the term ‘Cisgender’ around until it is the politically correct term, then you can imply that Cisgender vs transgender is a choice that everyone makes. This is good for transgender people because it implies that their decision is something every does and not just the transgender crowd.
Well, you are wrong. I am part of a group that disagrees with your overly simplistic binary view of gender identification —a feminist at heart
This article appears in Jan 7-13, 2016.
The terms, cisgender and transgender, are clinical terms; they are not the invention of those with a political agenda. Think cis fats and trans fats. “Cis” means to stay on the same side as/of; while trans means to cross over. In fats the distinction is one of molecular structure. In people in respect to gender, the terms distinguish between those who experience no discord between their gender assigned at birth (“It’s a boy/girl” – the Doctor) and the gender they experience – cisgender, and those who do experience discord – transgender. Just FYI.
#proudpenisowner
I’m not CIS anything. I don’t need a designation for my gender. Born female. Am female. End of. Trans people don’t get to change my gender identity to enervate and validate their own.
A transgender person is just that. Caitlyn Jenner, e.g. is not a woman, nor ever will be, in the true sense of the word. . Transgender, or intergender is nomenclature that refers to being between genders, not fully one or the other. By her very nature a woman is someone who posses female reproductive organs and hormones. Caitlyn Jenner has never had to suffer through one period, let alone about five hundred of them in her lifetime. Add in childbirth (still or live), PMS, miscarriage, endometriosis, menopause, infertility, the potential of hysterectomy and all the joys that brings and we see that the essence of being a woman is tied to her reproductive state, whether functional or not. Sure, a transgendered man can gestate a child, but not with his male reproductive organs. As gestation is not a male act among humans, a gestating trans male relies upon his female organs for this. This is a classic example of being between genders and not fully one or the other.
The struggles of transgendered people are no less real, valid or deserving of support because of this. They are just different than the non-trans female and male. Be happy in your own skin. Respect others. That is all that matters.
Excellent response Oceanchick. Well said.
Thank you
Feeling so old, I don’t even know how to pronounce cisgender.
Huh? I’m confused by this bitch. Is the OB saying that people are claiming cisgender is a choice? That’s not the case. It’s just a term for people who feel that their gender matches the body they were born with.
It wasn’t that long ago that people were being told not to “label” others. Now everybody wants a full set of their own labels from an ever growing list. I’m confused!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcuHKS2yhI…
@Oceanchick – I disagree with your argument, you’re talking about biology, the sex of an individual. gender is totally not the same as sex* I also think it is a slippery slope speaking on behalf of identities you don’t necessarily represent.
Also, you mentioned that trans folk are somehow changing your identity? people who are trans aren’t making these designations, I think its wrong to blame trans folk for your insecurities on the nature of gender instead of embracing and continuing to learn about the complexities of human experience. Halifax is cut off from the world but you have the internet, theres no reason you can’t learn about these things instead of consuming the same old media.
You’re bringing up essential feminist arguments, but feminism isn’t about exclusivity.
20 years from now all these words will be dated. Do something productive with your lives rather than argue over semantics.
“I am the color of stop signs”
“oh….you mean you are red?”
“NO I AM STOPSIGNCOLOR.”
“……stop sign color is red.”
“STOP SIGNS ARENT RED THEY’RE STOP SIGN COLOR.”
That’s all I hear when I see trans/cis whining.
Its a real, technical, scientific term.
Let’s cry about it!
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar without choosing to be a cigar
“I think its wrong to blame trans folk for your insecurities on the nature of gender instead of embracing and continuing to learn about the complexities of human experience. Halifax is cut off from the world but you have the internet, theres no reason you can’t learn about these things instead of consuming the same old media.”
Here are some “cpmplexities” for consideration.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/19/transg…
*complexities*
As a gay gal who has had a fair number of transgender and/or gay co-workers and friends I don’t need lectures from you on the “complexities of human experience.” I live it.
Ah…I remember the good old days. You were either gay or not.
@Oceanchick- I didn’t say you don’t have any lived experience, I think your personal life is your personal life.
I find it strange that you have to say you have trans friends in order for your argument to seem valid, everyone knows and works with gay, trans, and queer folk, they’re people, not collectible tokens or tools you can pull out of your pocket to validate an argument. Isn’t that what homophobic people do when they want to seem more accepting than they actually are? isn’t that what racist people do when they want to cover up their racist comments, opinions and actions?
I don’t believe you should take articles and studies for their surface content, consider what is being left out like this author seems to believe is doing. Surgery isn’t for everyone of course, thats an example of how gender and sex can be extremely difficult to grasp. I also think you shouldn’t feel entitled to knowing whether someone does or does not have a certain variation of genitalia, if and whether they’ve gone through surgery by choice or not.
-You can have gay, trans, queer friends, but they don’t make decisions for you.
-I don’t understand why you chose to share that article, the author is quite biased.
– Im not lecturing you, that would imply that you have no ability to speak for yourself.
since you were so kind to recommend a reading to me I think you should read this >>
http://www.amazon.ca/Undoing-Gender-Judith-Butler/dp/0415969239
In my opinion its a great starting point and you can find it at the central library! wow, talk about the collision of the real and virtual!
I mean no disrespect to you, and hope to hear back. thanks
@Bastard Fish- you’re capable of time travel? woah, you could be making a lot of money right now, understanding what the future has in store, but then again you already knew I was going to post this comment because time travel am I right? But no you choose to be unproductive.
Oceanchick: don’t post ridiculous articles. The x% who regret undergoing a sex change may “regret” because society is full of bigoted assholes who treat them like shit for being who they want to be. I’m sure you could find y% of homosexuals who wish they weren’t homosexual because of homophobia.
Also, this post is about gender, not sex. I’ve never heard of a transgender woman complaining about periods and pregnancy or other biologically female experiences. Maybe I don’t know enough of them, though.
Plasticbag – I have trans friends and I do let them make all my decisions for me. What now?
Plasticbag that was just too edgy for me. 2 edgy!
Wow, this is a blast from the past. Not the viewpoint you’d expect to see Oceanchick reppin’.