To the big bald guy with an umbrella screaming non-stop at the old homeless guy on Agricola and Robie at 4pm on Tuesday. WTF were you thinking? What gives you the right to scream at a another human being like he’s a dog on the street? Your scene was noticed by a lot of people and the general consensus was the only animal on that corner was you! Go to anger management counselling and get some perspective. That harmless old man has been living on the streets of the Northend for years and he is twice the man you are, you jackass. —We Are All Human Beings
This article appears in Apr 7-13, 2011.
That homeless man (and others) hold back property values. He should be relocated to Sackville.
Just wondering since the general consensus from the public was one of disgust, who did anything about it?? Did you OP?? Now I’m not saying approach crazy raving lunatics, but surely since many people saw this and weren’t happy, someone must have had the balls to speak up!!
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Good one OP. This was probably the same guy who loogied on the panhandler on SGR last week. Right?
What’s next – get a cheap video camera and ball cap , gain 500 lbs and become the next Michael Moore.
“Bums – A Love Story” premiering at the Atlantic Film Festival 2012.
Bahaha Ivan Iknorite? OP just doesn’t seem to know when to give up.
but o.p., did you actually know why the guy was getting screamed at for. bet you didn’t, and if you did, why is it any of your business.
these fucking bums and phoey cocksuckers are all over the place lately. bruce must be teaching a lot more, how to look sad, and panhandle more cash. fuck me gently, why do you people even go out of your way to acknowledge some of those street perfomers. and that’s all they are, actors.
there are only about a half dozen legit bums or homeless ones on the street, and they don’t bother much with begging. they just wander around, with their carts or bags, that” how you tell the difference o.p.. the bags and carts. none of those, and they are cheaters.
Agricola and Robie isn’t even an actual intersection. The streets are a couple blocks apart and run parallel to each other.
That being said: LS, you’re way off base. Once again, you’re equating “panhandler” with “homeless”. While there are definitely some panhandlers who are actually homeless, others are not, and there are certainly some shady, con-artist types in the mix. It’s anyone’s personal judgement call if they want to give money to a panhandler, but generally, donating to a homeless charity is usually a better call.
There ARE, however, a significant number of ‘real’ homeless people in Halifax. Approximately 250-300 at any given time, and usually at least 30-50 of those being children. People don’t sleep in emergency shelters and eat at Hope Cottage for shits and giggles, and anyone who thinks that’s a desirable “choice” for someone has got to pretty out of touch with reality. People don’t suddenly wake up one day and say, “You know what? I’m going to put on some raggedy clothes and live outdoors! People will treat me like shit and I’ll be able to line up once or twice a day and get a crappy meal! If I’m lucky, maybe they’ll let me sleep in a room with dozens of other smelly, crazy dudes when it gets really cold out! That’ll really show all those suckers out there, working jobs and paying taxes, haha!”
yeah but meow, you have to admit, that there are a lot of phoney mofo’s out gouging from the real homeless. and then, why are they that way? did they just decide to be homeless one day? did they buck the rules of the game f life? are they truly that desparate, that they have to do this? some of the answers are no, most in fact.
yes most choose what they do in life, and yes it does suck. but to pointedly pretend or actually go without a place, well that is just so much bullshit.
there are tons of jobs out there, just that they are too lazy to put in the time. there are far worse things going on, than to worry your head about. these people put themselves there, thru no fault of mine or yours. THEY FUCKING CHOSE THERE PLACE IN LIFE. and why should i have to hand over my money to them? do you graciously give everyone of them money, if so, then you are the biggest sucker going.
let them do what they do, and never mind it. it isn’t my business or yours, they put themselves there, and let them get the hell out of it. as to mentality issues with them, put them someplace, where they won’t have to do this thing. as to the kids, they are there, because it’s easier to score on a sucker, than a home, family, or education. they are who they are, and you or i or anyone, can’t change them, anytime soon.
LS. You and I should get together and discuss this topic. I beer at the Moustache in the summer with a window seat. Classic!
Ah yes. Poverty is the fault of the poor. People with mental illness should just be locked up. Homeless children are just trying to get out of going to school. Excellent points. How could I possibly argue?
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Lifey, I’m on your side on this issue. I wasn’t born privileged – in fact, I came from an abusive home and no one paid my way through life – I had to work fucking hard (and put up with a lot of shitty bosses) for everything I’ve got, therefore I refuse to pay for the stupid/rotten choices of other people. For example, a close friend of mine made some stupid choices back in the 90s (although I begged her to think it through – she didn’t) – she went from a $35,000 job to welfare where she remains at this time 12 years later. Why? Because she was tired of working and being responsible so she walked out of her job and her family. So when she moans to me about how poor she is and how I should help her financially, I just fucking laugh at her. She wasn’t forced to leave her job, she wasn’t forced to desert her husband and daughter who both adored her – now they no longer speak to her and she fucking can’t understand why. Maybe because you wanted to use your now grown daughter’s credit ’cause you have none? We’ve been buddies for 40 years but her sense of entitlement is something I won’t pander to.
FREE WILL vs ENVIRONMENTAL FORCES
Just passing by and noted another philosophical classic: To what extent is one the “master of his fate” (i.e., free will) or to what extent is he the product of environmental forces?
Those in favour or free will appeal to a world-view grounded on individualism and use terms like “choice,” “accountability, “personal responsibility,” and so on. They tend to be clustered on the Right on the political spectrum – as do most commenters on this site, have you noticed? – and so favour capitalism in its various strengths ranging from individual enterprise to a rabid Darwinian survival of the fittest.
Those who point to environmental forces as the principal determinant appeal to a world-view grounded on communitarianism and use terms like “co-operation,” “the brotherhood of man,” “help thy neighbor,” and so on. They tend to be clustered on the Left of the political spectrum – their frequency is considerably less on this site, have you noticed? – and so favour socialism in its various strengths ranging from democratic socialism to a rabid monolithic communism.
Of course, I suppose you want to know which is the correct view. Sorry, but I’ve got to run.
Cheerio!
She MUST be in rough shape if she’s resorting to stealing milk….
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TTFN, idle curiosity, how old was your friend when she dumped it all?
annie, the reference to Darwin isn’t what you think….oh fuck it, you’ll never understand.
She was 36 years old at the time – old enough to know better. She’s now 57 and on the constant bum with different guys with expectations like a tempermental 12 year old. What makes me really sad is that she has her Masters in Political Science – she was brilliant when it came to politics. I watched a perfectly good life washed away by the lure of sitting on the beach, drinking beer, rolling smokes and rejecting any kind of responsibility. (Yes, she can afford to indulge because she doesn’t buy groceries – Tim Horny’s is her cuisine of choice).
36? That blows my theory all to fuck. I was thinking the she may have been caught up in a mid-life crisis. 36 is too young to be menopausal, isn’t it?
20 years of sloth, must be in pretty rough shape, bummer.
I agree with you TTFN, for the most part.
However, many of us are only one paycheque away from being on the streets.
I’m not going to lie: I came from a financially comfortable family. I always had everything I needed and then some. Until I was just about to enter university, and my dad’s company left Halifax. We had it rough for a few years, which, I honestly think was a good experience on my part because it taught me how easy it can be to end up disadvantaged like some of the street people you see. Not all, but there ARE some unfortunate sobs out there who really didn’t have a choice in the matter.
13 years later, my parents have recovered nicely through some pretty frigging hard work, and are actually quite affluent. They have no debt, dad’s CPP and Old Age pays for all their expenses, and mom’s salary is just free and clear money allowing them to do some of the things they didn’t get to because they were too busy paying for my music lessons, and other things I didn’t need, but they felt I deserved. I’m so incredibly over the moon for them. If anyone deserves financial security as they get older, it’s my folks. They’re the first ones to help anyone out who needs it, and they’ve been MORE than generous with helping me out (even when I tell them not to, they insist).
I wish more good people would have the fortune they have these days.
Not all of us are blessed as you have been, PK. My dad was a humble tradesman, my mother a hysterical, violent cunt who verbally pounded the shit out of him while belting us kids within an inch of our lives – she nagged him to the grave because money (or lack of it) was ALWAYS an issue growing up. I was handed squat so whatever I am was because of hard work and perseverence – if I’m a little harsh about people who make shitty choices, it’s because I’ve been witness to too many impulse decisions.
Oh I understand completely, TTFN. You’re not harsh — I’m HUGE on personal responsibility too. There are just SOME times where it’s not the person’s fault. I remember my parents working as hard as they could and we still were within an inch of losing everything, and them feeling awful because they went from being able to put me through university with no loans, to not being able to help at all.
What gets me though, are the people, who, my mother always says “could fall into a bucket of shit and come up smelling like a rose.” I know many people like this and they’re all assholes who wouldn’t help anyone out if their lives depended on it. They always seem to be the ones who get what they want without having to work for it. Makes me sick.
just a thought
A bucket of composted shit, is great for rose plants !
petty kitty, who was raised as she previously posted with a silver spoon up her ass (I’ve often wondered if it wasn’t just a bit uncomfortable shoved up there) now completely understands TTFN’s growing up poor !
I have no idea how that could be, that she’d know what growing up poor is, when you haven’t lived it.
Does she even know what its like having ‘pap’ for breakfast as a kid ?
Growing up poor in Cape Breton in the late 50’s early 60’s with a dad who was a coal miner, we had pap because we had nothing else . Does she know the stigma of going to school back then with lobster (garbage) sandwiches ? Those who’s parents had money, had peanut butter & or jam !
PS- you won’t find it googling it !
you’d have to have been poor to know what it is.
that was tough
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pap_%28food%2…
Except that isn’t it !
Like I said you can’t google it or wiki it…BECAUSE YOU CAN”T BUY IT as a Product you have to make it from ……………………….. !
Thanks for the flashback, More – bologna sandwiches using Tulip margarine (which was a white block of lard that you had to mix with a packet of red food dye to create this wretched faux butter) were a morning, noon and night staple.
I remember that shit !
shudders…Baloney was for supper .
Remember ‘sugar sandwiches’ ?
all you had was margarine & you’d spread it on bread with a little white sugar so you could get it down !
Bread we had…because it was cheap to get the ingredients & you ‘made’ it yourself. Which is a hint for ‘pap’
Yes, yes More, you’re so much better than all of us because you grew up poor, live in the country, hate cats, and can hobble around on your fucked up legs. We get it. I hope you’re not really this horrible and negative in person. Maybe you’re the one that caused your ex wife to drink and ‘ruin’ your life? But I guess her being so horrible to you is just another thing that noooo one could ever understand and makes you better than someone? Pa-leeeze. You live in one of the best countries in the world! YOU don’t know what poor is! You’re lucky you were able to go to school and not forced to go work somewhere as a child to help pay for your family or forced to be a prostitute or had to come close to death from a treatable illness because your family couldn’t afford medicine or walk for miles every day and risk getting raped just so you and your family can have clean water to drink. See, I could go on all day about how other people are less fortunate than you but it really doesn’t mean anything. Let’s say someone received a gift of a million dollars on their birthday. Does that automatically make them a bad person? Or if someone could only afford to eat once a week, does that automatically make them a good person? Give it a rest.
Don’t forget: he doesn’t have a tv AND he doesn’t give presents at xmas. AUTOMATICALLY makes him oh so much better than the rest of us minions!
Oh, and don’t forget the whores. He likes to fuck whores too!
I mean, you GOTTA be awesome when you have to pay for sex….
You could afford sugar? We had to put fucking molasses or corn syrup on everything for sweetener – my bitch of a mother used to fill a near empty catsup bottle (we couldn’t afford the real Heinz ketchup) with water to stretch it. Imagine baptizing your bolonga with that.
Funny though – I tried a slice of bolonga a few years ago and it was so fucking salty, my blood pressure could have ripped a huge hole in the ozone layer.
What, ohhhh you’ve had it easy, I had it rough as a boy, I got stung to death every time I was sent out to gather honey =D
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delusional much…
Molasses we almost always had that. Mum said white sugar in bulk was pretty cheap & was used in baking, etc & milk was expensive ,so canned milk with water was what we used back then. Which was only when we were little. Dad went to trade school in Halifax in the middle 60’s & got a trade, when we moved up to Halifax things definately got better & Mum & Dad always did the best they could for us. Once my youngest siblings were able to go to school Mum got a job & things got even better, no more living paycheck to paycheck !
Unlike you petty kitty, I at least I admit paying a whore for a blow job.
You ever admit accepting dinner, dates with whoever or anything else as a way into your pants ?
That’s payment as well, you stund bitch. Or are you now the ‘virgin’ petty kitty
Also when I was a sailor, paying a lady of the evening was better than your favorite pass time, trying to sleep while playing with yourself !
I also never said I have no TV. I said I have no TV reception, no cable or no satelite…never said I didn’t have a TV & a movie collection to watch on it.
As for xmas presents are all the jews & muslims etc. to be looked down on ,because they also don’t support that ridiculous commercialized hoilday ?
The way you just posted it as some terrible thing I do, It follows you must !
Sorry zzzzzzzzzz, try again
Like i said & you obviously have an eyeball stigmatism.
YOU CAN”T FIND IT ON THE INTERNET !
I have tried.
I have tried many times & I always get the same results you do.
We couldn’t afford those ingredients.
Like I already said.
You had to grow up poor in small town Cape Breton, to know what pap was .
“You ever admit accepting dinner, dates with whoever or anything else as a way into your pants ?”
No, actually, I haven’t accepted any of the above from a guy just so they could get into my pants. Maybe women can’t stand being around you so you have to pay them to suck your oh so obviously tiny penis, but the men I’ve dated actually wanted to be with me for more than sex. Imagine that.
I’m not saying that it’s a terrible thing to not have TV or give presents at xmas — I’m saying your smug attitude about it and the way you post about it gives the impression that you’re somehow holier than thou for doing so. I hate to burst your bubble, but: you’re not. And you’re not really all that special, either. Well, maybe a special kind of stupid, but that’s about it.
Oooh! The poverty olympics! I love this game! So, is this where I tell you how hard my life was growing up, and then attribute all of my personal success to my good ol’ fashioned gumption? And then make the ENORMOUS assumption that because I had the inner strength and good fortune to somehow get out of my shitty situation, anybody else will deal with their life experiences in the exact same way, and it will produce the exact same outcome? And then maybe we can all throw around fun catch-phrases like “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” and pretend that whatever shittiness we have suffered in life is the absolute worst it can be for anyone, and so therefore nobody has a right to ask for help or compassion from their fellow human beings no matter what life has thrown them. WHAT AN AWESOME GAME!!!!!
Holy…me ! ! !
That’s your too small brain over working itself again.
I noticed those men don’t seem to be around at all any-‘more’ … or they’re not according to your posts
lol
these wouldn’t be males, as conjured by a delusional mind …would they ?
You’re so awesome at come backs.
someone tells more-on he’s dumb
more-on’s response: “nuh uuuuhhhh you’re the dumb oneee!”
Keep it up, dude. This is good for laffs.
so wait… you’re eating something you call pap that isn’t a recipe ever written down.. you can’t research it… and isn’t what pap ACTUALLY IS….
you’re fucking retarded.
She had you eating a mix of whiskas wet food, flour and milk.
Yummmm
also, I don’t just check porn sites…
I’m willing to bet I’m a much better researcher than you are considering I’m on a computer 10 hours a day and you’re…. building set stages and living like billy-joe fred in the boonies.
Though some things may be situational, in many, many cases it’s a choice, There have been people from crappy homes that have done well and those who had everything and went bad. Why? choice. PK, your folks hit some hard times but they made the choice to recover and not go on welfare and worked damn hard for it. I don’t think anyone is begrudging those who are either mentally or physically handicap who fell through the cracks for whatever reason. I get pissed off at those who decide they want to be bums or criminals.
FREE WILL vs, ENVIRONMENTAL FORCES (II)
I do hope you all appreciated my putting the current discussion in its philosophical context, that of the proponents of Free Will as opposed to the proponents of Environmental Forces as constituting the determining factors in guiding one’s life. While the one appeals to individual initiative to overcome adversity, the other maintains that we are necessarily social beings and are obliged, as a result, to lend a helping hand to our fellow man.
The two philosophies should be seen on a continuum, Individualists on the right and Communitarians on the left but the important point is that the continuum is not static. Depending upon contextual factors – including age – one may very well move across the spectrum. There is some truth (but only some) to the old saying, “If one is not a socialist in his youth he has no heart; if he is not a conservative as an adult, he has no mind.” However, as a counter-claim, Fourier’s maxim still seems to hold true: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
P.S. To “The Parasite” (aka Hugo Phurst) my “Darwinian” reference was not to the biologist Charles Darwin but to the “social Darwinist” Herbert Spencer. I thought that this was an obvious point but, of course, “The Parasite” failed to grasp it.
Exactly, Bro Tim. I’m (in some ways) thankful for a tough upbringing – it taught me that when you land on your ass, you get the fuck back up or you’ll lay there until the dandelions grow into your ears and up through your nose holes. Depression has been my life-long nemesis so it wasn’t always easy. I guess it all boils down to how much a person can tolerate. My old buddy left her family after 15 years because there were some fights (no violence) and she’d simply spaz out if she didn’t get her way. HU and I were married about the same time, had kids around the same time – Hub-Unit was a handful at times and we’d have some pretty vocal shouting matches but we both stuck it out, good and bad. Now I think, wow, we used to fight over such stupid things and it never happens anymore. He’s my 280 lb. angel with a walker now.
zzzzz are you bothered that it isn’t on the net ?
Cat food would probably be much more nutricious than pap was.
We couldn’t have afforded it though ~;)
OH I just remember another one PK; he buys his eggs from the lady down the street
my dad’s mum took lobster sammiches to school when she lived on pei. she was looked down upon by the pb&j eaters
pain girl… I know where she’s coming from.
PG, yup you’re right, in Canso my mother, daughter of a fisherman and WWI vet, took lobster sandwiches to school and the rich townies took balogna. Now both are too expensive to buy. LOL.
i remember eating sugar sandwiches, the bear ate mustard sammies when he was wee. he is living proof that you can rise above your circumstances
aah canso, i remember it’s fragrance well^^my folks dumped us nearby and we hitchhiked to canso. the weather was too rough at sea so they felt we would be safer on land
“I know many people like this and they’re all assholes who wouldn’t help anyone out if their lives depended on it. They always seem to be the ones who get what they want without having to work for it.”
They were working while you weren’t watching …
zZz don’t lower yourself with those words! Sebastian lowers every value wherever he goes. Gets invited to the family reunion and his father refers to him as ‘his daughter named Sabrina’.
PG, now I understand your name. LOL. It can’t be too bad there, my mom, grandmother, aunts etc are living or lived well into their 80s or more.
Did you know that homeless guy harasses everyone, particularly women? He’ll stop them from crossing the street until they give him some change. That’s why the big bald guy was yelling at him. You’re the one who is trying to dehumanize the homeless. They can be good or bad; homelessness does not automatically make them saints.