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Fuck going Green
It is a huge inconvenience with all of these new trates of going green.
Yes the planet is falling apart and blah blah blah but us little NS isnt going to make a big diffrence!
So i say Bring on the plastic bags and whoa i am going to get bitched at for this one
—not into going green
This article appears in Feb 5-11, 2009.
18 Comments
Awesome love the bitch. FUCK THE PLANET
You’re right, going green is inconvenient. And so is applying the brakes in my car while you’re crossing the street in front of me. Guess which one I’m not going to do.
Going green is right. As in Green Dollars for Al Gore, David Suzuki, and their minions. And in addition to Green Dollars they’re making, their also makinga newfangled kind of dollars, million dollars.
If going green is supposed to be SO much better for the planet and save you money then WHY are “green products” so damn expensive?
Make “green products” cost the same as not so green products (or even cheaper) and people would be more inclined to go that route. I mean do people really think the average joe has all this money to put into making their homes “green” or going out and buying marked up hybrid cars? No, they don’t, so they’re NOT going green.
Also: no one’s going to convince me CFL bulbs don’t suck. I’m stocking up on the incandescent ones for when they’re discontinued. And despite what Al Gore tells you, they don’t last as long as they claim, or any longer than incandescent ones. And that’s from someone who worked with people using the CFL bulbs…I’d get constant complaints on how short they lasted and if you break them you’re fucked. How many people actually know you can’t just throw them away? If they break the chemicals inside can cause thousands of dollars in clean up costs. So fuck CFLs.
Just want to point out that “little old NS” is a world leader in recycling…
Halifax might be too lazy, but you look at places like the valley and “going green” is neither a trend, nor an inconvenience, for them – its a way of life. Its economical as well – for all you capitalists out there that condemn the green movememnt as a “hippie movement”. Since 1990 the Swiss have lowered their green house emissions to 8.5% lower than the 1990 (91, or 92, cant remember off the top of my head) and yet their economy has become stronger –
So on top of just setting an example in NS, if we learned from example our economy might be a bit stronger? It might seem like a stretch, but so long as there are people out there who mimic your point of view – whos to know?
CFLs are okay… But given the energy required to produce and transport one CFL, you can make anywhere between 5-10 incandescent bulbs at half the cost. Not to mention that CFLs contain mercury as well, supporting Kitty’s statement. “Green” products are so damn expensive because they’re “in”. Everybody and their cat are buying them and most of them aren’t even environmentally friendly. But then again, we are a society of people that seeks out products to rid the counters of bacteria and then we turn around and buy yogurt that contains billions of “beneficial” bacteria. But I digress….
“Just want to point out that “little old NS” is a world leader in recycling… “
Not any more. We’ve fallen WAY behind on that front. Heck, we haven’t even kept up with ourselves, much less made the strides other cities have made: we’ve fallen backwards in our landfill diversion rates.
as for light bulbs… the way of the future my friends:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/30/researc…
our building doesn’t even provide green bins though so composting is out… and I like the shopping bags to put garbage in because we have the ‘bolted-to-the-bottom-cupboard’ style holder/bin.
I may not be the green-bastard, but I do recycle my beer cans.
Living green is only expensive because people are looking for “green” products to replace the “ungreen” ones. But the fact is, you’re never going to find a “green” scrub-free product to clean the soap scum off your bathroom walls. You are going to have to scrub that shit off. Oh Nooeess!!111!! Physical labour! Where’s my Pine Sol!
The OP here has nailed it. “Going Green” is inconvenient. It requires planning, effort, and sometimes even physical work. And we are a culture that likes our convenience, our labour saving devices, and our scrub free cleaning products. The argument that “little old Nova Scotia” can’t have a global impact is bullshit. It’s nothing but a rationalization to mask sheer, unmitigated laziness.
Last weekend I cleaned out my fridge. I had a shitload of expired salad dressing, ancient condiments, and other crap that I should have thrown out a loooong time ago. My bad. Getting rid of that shit meant emptying every nasty container into the compost, and washing out every jar and bottle to go in the recycling. And that is exactly the kind of labour our lazy-ass OP here, and others like him, are not willing to do. No cost involved. Just work.
Great attitude, asshole.
Tim’s absolutely right— We’ve fallen way behind in terms of us being a “green” city. Our lovely landfill is at least 5 years ahead of it’s fill schedule (the first 4 cells they built back in 99 were filled about 5 years ago), what’s indeed frustrating is that the way the system works (landfills are filled then capped with clay and basically what amounts to a rubber top, finishing with topsoil and grass), the gasses released by the decomposing material (an unprocessed version of natural gas) are collected and burned. Most landfills that use this set up collect and use the gas to either power the plant (making it self-sufficient) or power local communities. Not to mention too, the plant that takes the garbage is only set up to handle approximately 200 tonnes a day and have the waste processed correctly, but usually processes in excess of 500 tonnes. It’s perfectly okay to say that being “green” takes a lot of work, but we all need to pull our weight, and buying cleaners that use orange oil is only one step. We need HRM to pull it’s own as well, because that once gleaming feather in our cap insofar as the waste diversion goes, has become a joke and just more political smoke and mirrors. Not to mention the poor souls that sort and process the stuff don’t get paid nearly enough to do the job. But that’s another bitch. 🙂
whoever keeps feeding people this “Just want to point out that “little old NS” is a world leader in recycling…” BS is an idiot.. Yes, we love to recycle.. and absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact everyone should.. to the best of our abilities. But when you come and feed me crap like NS is the world leader in recycling, it makes me not want to do that.
We only recycle bottles, cans, anything that contained a liquid. and not all liquids.. the retards don’t even recycle milk cartons.. when can be cleaned and sterilized like the rest of them.. the rest of the plastic that’s actually supposed to be recycled (the containers they place your bbq chicken or chicken strips at stores, or plastic bag) end up in a landfill.
A plastic factory opened in Yarmouth earlier in 2008 and they were appalled to see NS claims to be world leader in recycling and it doesn’t recycle anything that doesn’t resemble a bottle or a can.. The factory stamps all their products as recyclable products and NS government advised them that there are no facilities to recycle those products. This was an interview with the owner of the factory, a Boston man who decided to bring the factory here due to the reputation and cheaper labour, then discovered the opposite, that was aired on cbc radio in the morning in Dec 2008. Plastic bags are PLASTIC that can be recycled, why do we not recycle it, in addition to other products that we throw out, if NS is such a WORLD LEADER in recycling!!.. Yes, maybe the people here want to recycle, maybe we have the most recycling lovers, but hell NS is no where near World Leading in recycling. Research some communities around the world. You want world leading, look at Europe. They have the most use of renewable energy in the world. the have recycling depots that automatically dispense your refund as you drop your containers in, and yes they recycle all, not just bottles.. even milk containers!!
Oh ya and by the way, those of you who love the fluorescent bulbs that are sooooo GREEN and save energy, umm they pollute like crazy and you can’t dispose of them!!!! They contain, oh wait a minute, poisonous mercury!!!!.. put enough of them in a piece of land, you’ve deemed it uninhabitable!
Green and World Leading my ass! Whoever heard of a poisonous polluting incandescent light bulb!!!
Wow. I won’t even go there. As someone who just spent 7 years of her life getting an Environmental Technology diploma and Environmental Studies degree I won’t even acknowledge your presence…after this: FUCK YOU, it’s people like you who make my life and career a constant battle. JERK.
Remeber when you clean up and do things right, how nice it feels inside. It’s kinda like that on a wordly level. Everyone gets this nice shiny feeling and everything runs smoother.
yeah, but i’d rather go poor going green than go to hell when the ice caps melt and precious hfax is underwater.
It amazes me how pissed off people can get when you mess with their plastic bags.
The problem is that we need to start punishing people for doing things that hurt the environment, rather then except people to be diligent about it and help out. Charge $1 per plastic bag, so that the lazy people who really seem to need them will pay for them and then put that money towards changing other things to be more green, which will subsidize the cost for the rest of us.
I would love to see more recycling facilities in NS so that we can recycle everything, but for that to happen we need more workers as well. Raise you hand if you’d want to work sorting recyclables? Half the problem lies with people at home who still won’t even sort things properly.
It’s going to take a lot of work now, and everyone has to get involved, but if we don’t get off our asses, we wont have a place to put them in 10 years.
Maybe my comment of “world leader” was an ovr exaggeration – Ill concede to that. But just because Halifax only recycles refundables and tin cans doesnt mean that the rest of NS is that way.
Ill bring back my example of the Valley, all of their waste is seperated into the five streams (that being paper, recyclables, refundables, organics, and actual trash). And its not just the valley, many of the rural communities are much the same. We dont go to the extreme – (Wolfville and area are implementing that all garbage bags be clear to dissuade people from throwing everything out – that whole public embarassment thing) but most everyone have their green bin, their recyclables, and their paper seperated. Not to mention the various e-waste, scrap metal, and furniture collections that go on.
So yes, maybe I did exaggerate my point – but I didnt spend a week of my summer talking to economic profs, environmental speakers, site managers at landfills, at staff at recycling depots to believe that what I saw was nothing but BS.