You were my best friend. I loved you more than I loved myself, and gave so much of my being to you. When you were kicked out on the street, I took you in to live with me for free. When you were broke and hungry, I fed you and gave you money. When you sat on my porch sobbing, I held you and rocked you like a baby. What did I get in return? A knife in the back. You dropped me like a hot potato because I apparently “rubbed you the wrong way” on one occasion. I did NOTHING to deserve it, and I think you know it. Even now, months later, I can’t believe our entire friendship was a farce. Despite all the awful things you did, I still saw only the best in you. I stood by you through everything; you once said you’d be lost without me. Now you act as though I don’t exist. I’ve come to the conclusion that with or without me, you are definitely a lost cause. You use your bad childhood as an excuse for why you make awful choices all the time. You constantly moan about how you father abandoned you, yet you have no problem chumming with someone who abandoned her own child (which you see nothing wrong with). I want you to know how profoundly you’ve hurt me. I know you won’t care, but I want you to know anyway. I also want you to know that if I found you dying of thirst in the desert…I’d still give you water, because that’s who I am. That’s the type of person you threw away. Good luck being you, you’ll need it. -No More Miss Nice Girl
This article appears in Apr 3-9, 2014.
Well, I think most of us have tried to “help” someone in the past, and it always backfires. You just can’t help people that don’t want to be helped – and some people can’t be helped.
Welcome to the human club. Learn your lesson and move on.
Only when women grow balls will they will finally find equality…and stop posting drivel
After reading this OP, you have shown more compassion than most would have tolerated. You have a heart of gold.
Your story reminded me of a time I tried helping a young lad who was in dire straits and never so much acknowledged or thanked me for my help.
No such thing as a bad childhood. NONE. Only bad parenting.
A lot of relationship threads lately, does Dr. Phil do house calls?
My cat bites people too. We just don’t touch his belly anymore. Hope that works with your cat.
RUBBING THE RIGHT WAY
“You dropped me like a hot potato because I apparently ‘rubbed you the wrong way’ on one occasion.” No More Miss Nice Girl
It was very unfair to be dropped like a hot potato because you rubbed him the wrong way on only one occasion. Were there not other occasions when you rubbed him the right way?
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Montrealman (for some reason your writing is making a lot more sense these days…)
Some people will magnify the negative so much that it will trump all positive experiences.
For whatever reason, OB, your friend has some issues to deal with, and you got caught in the crossfire. That’s what happens, in general, when you try to help someone.
It sucks. We’ve all been there. Most of us anyways…
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The Board (04/04, 9:29AM)
Your claim that my writing “is making a lot more sense these days” is worrying. Excluding the intellectually disenfranchised, my writing always makes sense.
If I am making sense to you these days then there is something horribly wrong. That is the worrying part.
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“my writing always makes sense.” – Says the guy who thinks that Charles Darwin discovered the Galápagos Islands in 1835, and that he was the first European ever seen by the indigenous population.
“Education is an ornament in prosperity…”
I suspect you’ll only hear crickets in response to your post, Hugo – thanks for the chuckle.
THE INTELLECTUALLY DISENFRANCHISED
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: The Turd (04/05, 11:19AM)
“Education is an ornament in prosperity…”
Whatever can that possibly mean? As I say, my writing always makes sense, except for the intellectually disenfranchised. Clearly, you are one of their number.
A pleasure as always.
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Sméagol has called you out, Mr. Phurst. Your move.
“I took you in to live with me for free. When you were broke and hungry, I fed you and gave you money. When you sat on my porch sobbing, I held you and rocked you like a baby. “
He sounds like a winner! Lady, get your head checked. Why are you so desperate for this pathetic loser of a man? You need to develop some damn self-esteem and stop giving dudes money. They don’t respect you. They laugh at you for being a sucker and then go spend the money on someone more attractive than you. You need to make them pay for dates, that way they’ll see you as an investment. Real men prefer to pay as it makes them feel more like a man. Only LOSERS take money from a woman – they are called gigalos. Not to be confused with juggalos, although they are of the same sub-human species.
No Fool
“intellectually disenfranchised, intellectually disenfranchised,RAWK!!!” – Polly has learned new words, Good for you Polly.
So when an idea is beyond your understanding (incomprehensible as you say), but everyone else get it, does that mean that you’re “intellectually disenfranchised”? Of course not, it just means that you’re “slow”.
“Whatever can that possibly mean?” -Damn, I suppose it’s my own fault for (repeatedly) overestimating your cognitive ability. – Well then, I’ll start with a little history.
The quote is from a guy named Aristotle, born in Greece, lived 384 – 322 BC. Attended Plato’s Academy from ages 18 to 37. He was a scientist, and a teacher to Alexander the Great. He was also a philosopher who’s studies included Platoism and Empiricism. Much of Aristotle’s works, ideas and methodology are still taught today. You should do some reading Sméagol, you might learn something.
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: The Turd (04/09, 8:28AM)
“Education is an ornament in prosperity…”
In response to the Turd’s initial comment (04/05, 11:19AM)) I asked, “Whatever can that possibly mean?” (04/05, 2:44PM). As expected, even after a delay of four days, the Turd was unable to do it. He just doesn’t know what it could possibly mean but, of course, this didn’t stop him from quoting it.
Instead, as usual, he resorts to empty bluster. He calls me a parrot. Good boy, that was a very perceptive comment. But now he raises the bar. Cribbing from Wikipedia or some other potted source as usual, the Turd now breathlessly reveals that the quotation is from Aristotle who, don’t you know, studied “Platoism” and Empiricism and, indeed, “much of his works, ideas and methodology are still taught today.” Good boy. But here’s a few more questions.
In what work is Aristotle’s quotation to be found? What did his studies of “Platoism” involve? What is “Platoism” anyway? In what way could Aristotle be considered to be an Empiricist? What do you understand by the term? And just what were Aristotle’s “ideas and methodology,” the ones which are “still taught today?” What are those ideas? What is that methodology? Do you understand them? Do you agree with everything Aristotle said? Why, or why not? Could you elaborate? No, I didn’t think so. As with my request to explain your quoted Aristotelian reference, so my request for answers to my further questions will result only in further bluster, further name-calling. That is because that is all the Turd has.
I was going to suggest that you follow your own advice and do some reading but, on second thought, I now realize that it would be futile. That is because you are intellectually disenfranchised.
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A pleasure as always.
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Why should I make things easy for you and explain everything?
You’re the PhDuh, figure it out yourself.
BTW – I dare you to meet me in a contest of “intellectual ability”.
Oh, go away.
Oh, but I have been away. I’ve been to about 3 dozen Countries on 4 Continents….you?
Re-read you post….Awww, you counted the days that it took me to acknowledge you, that’s so……creepy.
I’ll be in Montreal during the Jazz Festival, what do you say? Shall I drop by?
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: The Turd (04/09, 4:29PM)
You must stop doing your pedophile tour immediately. There can be serious consequences for that sort of thing.
While I have strong reservations about Jazz on aesthetic grounds, I do draw a strong line on epistemological grounds against meeting with the intellectually disenfranchised. Do not drop by.
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“Pedophile tour?”
Nekulturny, Tovaritsch. Hugo’s travels were in the service of the Canadian Navy and this country, and you have crossed a very ugly line.
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: Ivan Sonofabitch – Men’s Rights Activist (04/10, 6:35AM)
He’s still in the Navy? Then why didn’t he say so? In any case, the remark was meant in jest. Stop being so po-faced.
A pleasure as always.
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Montrealman likes to ask for the meaning of everything in an attempt to subdue his oponent. But that’s a low level discourse tactic, and any academic would know this.
We can all pick apart any sentence, twist it around, ask for clarification, etc, in an attempt to seem “intellectual” We don’t because we’re not tools.
Don’t get me wrong, I like tools. Mostly Lie Nielsen tools.
MM, Everyone draws their lines in a different place. Accusations of pedophilia are like rape jokes. Some people think they are clever enough, witty enough, verbose enough to carry them off and make them sound satirical and edgy.
They are wrong.
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: The Board (04/10, 8:59AM)
You are wrong. If one detects ambiguity or incoherence in the assertion of another, to ask for its meaning is not “a low level discourse tactic” designed to subdue one’s opponent as you seem to suppose but rather is a standard philosophical opening move. It is not intended to seem “intellectual” but, for some such as yourself, this may indeed be the result.
But if, as you say, “we can all pick apart any sentence,” why don’t you start with my previous sentence? All I ask is that you be honest in your analysis. Go ahead, start now.
: Ivan Sonofabitch – Men’s Rights Activist (8:58AM)
Some people may indeed think that accusations of pedophilia are like rape jokes but I am not one of them. Indeed, I think both sorts of accusations, made seriously, are wrong. Therefore, you are wrong.
A pleasure as always.
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Hear hear, Ivan–got your back on that one buddy.
X/SS
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: SheSang (04/10, 12:27PM)
What about my back, SheSang? Have you got my back on that one too? Or are you just jumping on what you suppose to be some sort of bandwagon?
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MM, i adore and respect Ivan. he is correct, and you are an idiot…and i never jump on bandwagons that i haven’t already driven…i’d end my statement by calling you ‘Dude’, but you don’t deserve the title.
Let’s face it, She Sang, we have the distinct advantage of knowing both Ivan and Hugo in the ‘real world’. MM could be a hawk-headed parrot with advanced pecking skills for all we know. Ivan and Hugo each have a formidable intellect and could certainly give MM a run for his epistemological toonie. Unfortunately, it is a battle of wits we will never witness in person. Online fapping can never compare to the thrill of watching people engage in a lively face-to-face debate, all done with a sense of fun, of course.
Well Sméagol, that certainly is the type of baseless ad hominem attack that one would expect from a cognitively defunct little mind such as yours. Your “joke” just reaffirms my rather low opinion of you. I suppose I could reply to your “humour” in the same vein, but that would mean lowering myself to your level. So I’ll take the intellectual high road and leave you with your petty jealousy.
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: SheSang ( 04/10, 4:58PM)
Sadly, in a manner common on this site, SheSang claims that she adores Ivan who is as a consequence obviously and by definition correct and, in the same way, she doesn’t adore me who is, by definition and in the same way is, in her view, an idiot. Class, do you see an omission here? That’s right! SheSang gave no reasons for her assertion which, of course, rule out any legitimacy to which those assertions might aspire. She must, as a consequence, fail her introductory philosophy class. I know that she will not understand this.
: T.T. Fonebone (6:27PM)
Unlike SheSang, Fonebone attempts to acquire conceptual distance, to place the debate in some discursive context. The context is that of the “real world” in which Ivan and Hugo apparently flourish but in which, being possibly a hawk-headed sparrow, I do not. But does Fonebone’s contextual context, as the expression has it, “go through?” I would argue not.
Fonebone, as in the case of She Sang, is without evidential support. She vapours on about Ivan’s and Hugo’s “formidable intellect” which, I would argue, has not been in evidence in this particular case nor, indeed, in any others if memory serves. In addition, I would reject her claim that the issue, to be conclusive, must be debated “in person” even if done, as she urges, is done “with a sense of fun, of course.” There can be no such “sense of fun” in fundamentally philosophical questions such as these. But, of course, there is in addition the worry that rhetorical skill rather than undiluted reason may carry the day in such debates. Of course I can, as occasion warrants, display considerable rhetorical skill in these matters as well.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!