So I go to a place famous for breakfast and lunch and ridiculously overpriced meals. An omelet and home fries with a piece of kiwi and a couple of strawberries should not set me back 20 bucks, but I digress…

After mulling over the ridiculous menu (full of drawings of food) I choose the Chicken Ciabatta sandwich with soup. That would be lovely. Hold the kiwis.

When placing the order I am told the soup of the day was HAMBURGER. HAMBURGER SOUP? GROSS! Besides, I do not eat beef or pork. Haven’t for 11 years. Long story.

That’s fine, I say, I’ll just have a salad. NO. NO SALAD. SOUP ONLY. OK… um I guess I’ll just have the sandwich with half an empty plate then. If my choice is hamburger soup or nothing I’ll go with nothing.

She takes my order as such. I am blown away to see it arrive, on a large plate, all alone. No salad. I politely excuse myself (I was with 5 others, I did not want to make a scene) and make my way to the manager….

I express my dismay at receiving half an empty plate. Why couldn’t they throw together a salad? He listens to my story and then states, incredulously :

“You don’t eat meat? But you are eating chicken!”

Whoops, caught me! You win! I do eat poultry and fish!

I told him I was not about to get wrapped up into some sort of ethical debate. I have chose not to eat mammals. I should not be forced to. OK, I eat birds and fish. To me that’s OK. I AM NOT GOING TO EAT HAMBURGER SOUP. Even when I ate meat I thought that was disgusting. Hamburger soup? Or nothing??? Is it 1973 Poland?

I swore to that manager I would never eat there again and I have told all of my friends. Want a good hangover breakfast? Go to one of the Greek spots on Quinpool, 8 bucks with tip. Great service. Unlimited coffee refills. No kiwis and strawberries on your plate, however…—CHICKEN AND FISH ARE NOT MEAT (IN MY BOOKS)

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  1. So… when the server told you that you couldn’t substitute salad for soup, you were actually surprised when they brought you your plate with just the sandwich and no salad — like you requested?

    I hate it when people find it to be immorally wrong to eat certain mean like beef, yet still continue to eat poultry and fish. I have a roommate who I wanna kick in the head sometimes because she called me a savage for eating chicken, even though she had eaten it the day before me, and she acts like a saint because she “doesn’t eat beef” (even though I’ve seen her eat it). And I get judged for it. Whatever.

    Anyway, yeah, hamburger soup is what they had. Too bad, so sad. It’s a soup of the day — like most restaurants have. They don’t always have a soup that accomodates what everyone wants. How were they supposed to know you don’t eat beef or pork? What about the people who DO like that soup?

  2. i understand you don’t want to eat cows and pigs but hamburger soup can be quite yummy. pigs are smarter than chickens but what about sheep they’re not too bright…sorry i don’t understand the distinctions…bah ram shu

  3. In keeping with my policy of counteracting public acts of self righteousness, OP, today I will kill 3 animals in your honour. In fact, I’m brushing my teeth with veal as I type this. 🙂

  4. OP, I, like you, only eat chicken and fish. For me it’s a preference, I really don’t like pork or beef, and don’t care for lamb either. When I go out, if I’m thinking of soup, the first thing I do is ask what kind it is. What if it wasn’t hamburger soup, what if it was minestrone or italian wedding? Would you throw the same fit? At the same time, did you ever think that maybe to save on food costs (and the environment, I might add) the restaurant manager chose to make hamburger soup so that he could use up leftovers instead of wasting them? Happens quite often. If I were him, I would be glad your self-entitled ass wasn’t coming back to his restaurant anyway.

  5. So you’re a hypocrite who can’t parse the word “no” then, or with the memory of a goldfish. Chicken and fish are meat. They’re not going to stop being meat. Just because they’re in a different section in the cookbook doesn’t mean that you’re causing the death of something when you eat them. So STFU and eat your meat or you won’t get any pudding.

  6. Why the hell does anyone care why she wont eat certain kinds of meat, maybe she doesn’t like the taste!!?? Restaurant = Customer service! So fuckoff and give the girl some lettuce and get over it. If you dont want to please the customer then get a different job!

  7. You don’t eat meat .
    But you eat chicken & fish !
    I guess its logic like that , which makes ExPresident Bill’s comment about blow jobs not actually being sex, make sense.
    So ladies & gentlemen the next time the opportunity presents itself, Or a fussy vegetarian starts complaining about non meat choices…tell them it isn’t meat, its only chicken & make sure you tell the (already commited)person your interested in…that It’s not like we’d actually be having sex…its just ORAL .
    ~;) … lol

  8. whilst you should have been given a salad sub. ; just another ex. of people getting tired of pretend veg./ethical eaters whatever

  9. My mom used to make hamburger soup and it was delicious. Yes, it had ground beef in it, but it was also full of vegetables, beans, and pasta.

    The OP sounds like a whiny child. You were told you couldn’t get a salad with your sandwich. Why on earth were you surprised when all that came was the sandwich?

    And I’m with everyone else – chicken is just as much meat as beef or pork.

  10. Anyone else read the Sunday blurb in the Horrid, about biosolids (aka human waste spread on veggies) well it seems that our local Grocery stores won’t allow LOCAL produce to be sold in their stores if the ground has been fertilized with human feces…but they’ve got no problem selling us fresh Produce from California, Mexico & China, where the practise is rampant.

    So all you veggie eaters who love your fresh produce all winter long, I hope human feces & some of the questionable parts it contains like (heavy metals, perscription drugs, soaps,cleaners etc) are much tasetier than meat of cow, pig etc.

  11. well now, i could say all kinds of shit to this o.p., but i’d rather not. i’ll just say this tho, if you knew the prices were high, why did you go there? also fish and chicken are in the catagory of meat, because o.p., they are just that, a white type meat.they don’t grow in the ground, so not a vegetable, they don’t grow on a bussh or tree, so not fruit. they eat grain and other smaller meat, so i guess that makes them meat, think on it, if you are able to.

  12. Yeah, More, human feces is sooooo much better than growth hormones and steroids, or even being genetically modified. There’s an ethical argument on both sides of the coin, really.

    Hey, OP, ethical arguments aside, maybe you shouldn’t worry too much about it. It’s reactions like yours that make us “unethical bastards” hate vegetarians.

  13. mmmmmmmm, I don’t think I would want to live in a world without bacon…
    or ny strip steak…

    and yes, fish and fowl are certainly meat…
    tasty meat.

    you knew what you were going to get when you ordered it… you should have gone somewhere else when you found out you would be getting shafted there.

  14. oh, and by the way o.p., vegetarians give the best blowjobs, oh it that a piece of meat in your mouth, gee, whoda thunk it.

  15. If they don’t have salad then they don’t have salad. So get off your high horse and wake the fuck up. My god no wonder servers hate their jobs, all the fucking clowns they have to put up with.

  16. Dr Fever I buy my beef just up the road from cows that live in NS, eat grass out in the feilds. not cows that are fed on huge feed lots with maximum growth hormone, & all the drugs vets can get into them ! Sold at your local big box grocery chain…thanks but no thanks.
    I get my eggs & chicken…from a lady out my way as well, not all meat consumed here has to loaded with artificial chemicals & growth hormones. IT might e a bit more expensive…it might not be ruby red with an infusion of red dye #999, but it sure is tastier .

    If some credible scientific researchers come out with hard data about this stuff being similar to composted animal manure, that would probably make a lot of people …less disturbed by the whole issue, maybe.

  17. Being a person who doesn’t eat dairy, red meat, pork or fish/seafood (makes me ill) and only eats chicken for meat, I would have just ordered something else. Not difficult.

  18. That may be great for you More, but there’s a little problem. Not everyone has a farm down the road that they can go to to get food from. I’d admit, it would be nice, but as a society we need to rely upon grocery stores. But anyways, that’s not the argument.

  19. “So… when the server told you that you couldn’t substitute salad for soup, you were actually surprised when they brought you your plate with just the sandwich and no salad — like you requested?”

    ^ This. QFT.

  20. The flesh of any living or dead creature, mammalian or otherwise, is…(wait for it)…M-E-A-T!

    Sorry to disillusion those who think otherwise.

    Then again, willingly dining at admittedly overpriced restaurants is kind of silly too. Twenty bucks for a few eggs and potatoes? Oh, and a smidgeon of fruit. Ingredients that cost a buck or two at the most. Wow!

  21. You’re right Dr. F.
    But it IMO shouldn’t be that way. we should have choices & information letting us know what we’re buying & if it’s got red dye #999 in it, it should say ex:” 700 grams Prime Rib Steak with 2 grams of red dye#999- “
    But it doesn’t , or watered chicken, where they put fresh chicken in vats of water, basicly so the chickens soaks up cheap water & gets sold for weight as chicken. They call it fun names like plump, moist…screw that, you can soak your chicken at home…no one I know needs a grocery store to do it !
    I believe the reason stores get away with it is, some people see cheaper as better, & don’t realise they’re getting what they pay for, . Others want convenience & don’t mind large amounts of salt or ‘preserving chemicals’.
    Staple foods are still affordable, there’s just a lot more prep time involved (for a better end result IMO) there are some good markets even in the city to buy local products/produce & you are helping people in your local community instead of giant corporations who could care less ! THink of areas outside the city as local as well, especially in season. THey sure are much closer to being local than say California, Mexico or…China !

  22. So she orders and told of the soup. She doesn’t want it for whatever reason and was told there was no substitution. She says ok (though she doesn’t like it) and gets exactly what she orders. So exactly what is her problem, other than people not bending over backwards for her. If she didn’t like it she had a few choices. Eat what she ordered, have a cup of coffee (no dairy) and sit with her friends, or leave.

    And if it has flesh and blood coursing through its veins, it’s meat, whether it walks, swims or flies.

  23. “OK… um I guess I’ll just have the sandwich with half an empty plate then. If my choice is hamburger soup or nothing I’ll go with nothing.”

    …so you went to the manager because you received exactly what you ordered and expected?

  24. btw folks, the is the GATEWAY store on the #7 hiway, that has fresh meat, no additives either. all local grown and butchered and of course their prices are fantastic. i go there once a month to stock up. you should too. they even have an email with weekly specials over what they normally charge.see you there people. and worms are classed as meat too, because they also have blood in them.

  25. that’s a great episode shrike…and yes poland existed in 1973
    they’re putting locusts on pizza in australia, there be lots of them=swarm=plague

  26. For anyone who wants an alternative to the grocery store, there’s a gentleman at the market who will deliver. He has great stuff – his business is called Windy View Farms, I’ve never had better tasting non-shrinking chicken in my life.

  27. LS: Gateway Meat Market is fucking awesome!! I go there every two weeks and stock up too. The prices are mind boggling and the meat is SOOO much better!! I spend less than $40/mth for ALL of my chicken, beef and pork. Everything from whole chickens to racks of ribs for amazing prices. I love that place!

  28. OP, you’re an arse…. oh, but don’t worry, not a pig’s arse. I’ll allow you that kind of respect at least. That’s all I intend to write about this stupid bitch.

  29. zZz: It’s on Main St, just past the Forest Hills Parkway. It’s almost directly across the street from the Esso station. Couple of weeks ago I got a 2.5lb whole chicken, 1kg+ of lean ground beef, a rack of whole ribs, a prime rib steak and a 24 pack of hash browns for less than $20. It IS a carnivores wet dream. I haven’t asked yet but I’ve been told that you can order whole cuts/sides from them too.

  30. *drool…..*
    OMG, I know that place… been by there to golf at the montegue.
    It’s a little bit of a trek for me but yeah… after seeing their site… sold.
    I’m making monthly trips there now.

    done and done.

  31. im a waitress and people like you piss me off. dont go to a restaurant and make up your own meal and expect people to accommodate you. if its not on the menu.. you dont get it! if you dont wanna eat it, thats youre tough luck. eat something else or buy some fucking groceries and make a meal thats PERFECT for you.

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