If the silent treatment is your go to way of dealing with problems, good luck ever having a successful relationship. I’ve got two words for you: passive aggressive. You can’t just ignore people you care about, and people who care about you. Grow up. I can’t read your mind. —Over It
This article appears in Nov 1-7, 2012.


Ummmm, the fact of the matter happens to be the person doesn’t care! You just haven’t accepted this yet! Now you know!
Let’s get the assholery rolling!
I find it hard to believe anyone choosing a Katie Perry lyric as the title of a bitch deserves any respect at all.
Top that my fellow pathetic judgement hurlers!
True words Koda. Silence=not caring. Sometimes people just need closure and OB, you aren’t going to get it.
I have a supervisor at work who does this. I always find it to be quite a treat when he won’t talk to me. I don’t even bother to wonder what I did wrong now….I just sit back and enjoy the peace. ( I really hope he reads this)
Some people just hate the thought of arguing so they avoid problems.
I use a drop and run approach. Tell them what they did, how it made you feel, and if applicable how to avoid it in the future. Smile and carry on. This allows your partner to process the information without feeling attacked, you’re fixing the problem and moving on rather than just reliving it.
Some things you just have to ask yourself: is this a deal breaker?
Closure is not something you get from someone else.
I used to try to argue with my boyfriend, try to get him to say what I wanted to hear. It never worked I’d just jump up and down yelling my face off and hurling preposterous threats and he would refuse to look at me or answer me then go for a drive. I was furrrrriiious, how dare he disrespect me like that! Then I realized I wasn’t trying to solve anything. I just wanted him to feel guilty and say sorry.
The drop and run has worked wonders because not only will he make eye contact and listen to what I’m saying but once I finish its over! No fighting, no lost sexy times,and even though he’s not much of a verbal apologizer he always does something like a job or chore around the house for me which really is worth more than “I’m sorry”.
Just because your partner doesn’t serve it on a silver platter does not mean you’re not getting what you ordered.
Lmao @ Kontee…sometimes the shit list is the best place to be!
Agreed, NurseHezz, it’s like a vacay day at work. 🙂
Furious Styles, you say that because OB used a Katie Perry lyric as the title of their bitch, that they are undeserving of any respect. My questions are: 1) just how did YOU know it was a Katie Perry lyric?; and 2) should we respect you for knowing this? 😛
C’mon. Fess up. Is someone a closet ‘Katie’ fan? Hmmm? lol (just bustin’ yer chops, man) 😉
Ummmm because all the ummm sexy ladies that I have the making of sexs with are listening to her? FOOTBALL! BEER!
*phewdodgedthatbullet*
Smooth, FS. Smooth.
“Silence=not caring.” Not always true.
what was that again o.p., i wasn’t reading.
You had your opportunity and this ship sailed. You kept pushing me away and pulling me back. Get over it, I moved on and really lucked out and found a young and attractive woman. Coincidentally, when I told you…complete silence from your end. I don’t want you or your friendship.
Really Donk? I tend to agree with coastinalong. Why else would someone continue to act that way?
This bitch is about someone who punishes their partner for some sort of trespass by complete silence. OP didn’t do things their way and it angered them. Their way of dealing with it is by refusing to speak to the offender. That type of behavior is childish IMO.
It’s not a matter of not caring, it’s a matter of caring too much. To a ridiculous extent.
^^ caring ‘too much’ about things that don’t deserve it. not the person, the event/action/words. loading value onto valueless or trivial ‘pursuits’ . ha!
it’s not about lowering your standards, or expectations from someone, be it relationship, child, sibling or friend. it’s truly not ‘sweating the small stuff’. sometimes you have to be grateful they are alive. like teenagers. man, some parents get all bent about tattooes or pink hair or electronic music but miss the fact that the kid comes home alive, kisses the cat and teaches his little brother how to make a model plane. ‘this’ is a bad kid????? concentrate on the 17 year old mitt romney lookalike who gets great marks in school, sucks up to old people but who your friendly dog shies from. i would lock my bedroom door at night if i had a kid like that.
geeze, how did i get here from OP?
one of the most interesting things about reading these is the varying comments/pov’s. because i love frame of reference stuff.
Ginger, take it from someone who goes quiet from time to time, it doesn’t mean I don’t care. Sometimes I care too much and shut the fuck down. Doesn’t make sense to others, and it perplexes me too. Letting people know this about you from the beginning though helps a lot.
Ma says it’s a coping mechanism (albeit a not so good one) and she’s prob. right.
it’s they way i roll donkster, i tend to go away and read. you have no sides, nor do i
If I think a man is worth “fighting” for I’ll stand and fight.It usually blows up in my face though.I always end up looking like a Physco Bitch and the guy runs away.
why would one ever have to ‘fight’ for someone? i mean, unless it was a zombie apocolypse. i know i am going t sound all 60’s granola, but that old sappy poster…. ‘if it doesn’t come back it never was’ hits the crystal note for me.
if you like someone, tell them. just say it, don’t pussyfoot around. if they look like you’re offering cockroaches on a muffin, well now ya know. you won’t shrivel up and die for gawd’s sake. and if you are in a relationship and it looks like someone is trying to seduce your partner, well what the heck can or should you do? sweet FA. they will or they won’t. and if they do, now ya know. you can’t chain someone up. you cannot threaten or browbeat someone into fidelity. and as for the reaction towards the would be seducer, geeze. laugh at them.
GDM Being a hopeless romantic,thats the part of me that said I would “fight” for the man I love….I’m getting too FN old for games.I know I’m a good person.I’ve spent most of my life convincing myself of that.If a man can’t see that fuck him. I’m tired my inner termoil of telling myself I’m a wonderful woman deserving of the love of a good, honest man….I’m done fighting the fight,to keep or get a man that doesn’t care about me.
*Correction* Advice to self..Read comment before posting.
“. I’m tired my inner termoil of telling myself I’m a wonderful woman deserving of the love of a good, honest man….”
“. I’m tired of my inner termoil , I’m now telling myself I’m a wonderful woman deserving of the love of a good, honest man….”
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: Boru 1014 (10/28, 11:28AM)
Um, I believe that should be “turmoil,” Boru.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
MM thank you MM.
I’m a good woman thats forgotten how to spell. ;p
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: Boru 1014 (10/28, 5:53PM)
I know you are Boru, I know you are.
By the way, that should be “who’s” forgotten how to spell. (“Who” is a relative pronoun referring to a person while “that” is a relative pronoun referring to a thing.)
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
WOMEN IN TURMOIL
As a matter of interest, to say nothing of its being a significant area of sociological research, I conducted survey of the bitches posted between Tuesday, October 23 and Friday, October 26, i.e., those which appear on page one. ( For some reason no bitches were posted for Thursday, October 25.) The results, broken down into TOPIC and SCORE were significant.
Abnormal Psychology, ID Admission to Clubs and Municipal Politics: 1 each
Pets and Customer Relations: 2 each
Traffic: 3
Women in Turmoil: 5
“Women in Turmoil” was the clear winner, but what can be deduced from the topic’s victory? I believe that several conclusions can be supported by the statistical evidence. The first is that “Bitch” is an overwhelmingly female site. Its focus is on the female and her problems, the various causes of her turmoil. In contrast, male contributions tend to focus on impersonal matters such as traffic, public transport or, on occasion, sex in its more grossly physical aspects. “Pets” and “Customer Relations” can also be seen as being typically female topics since both, for the most part, are areas of female rather than male involvement and concern.
The second conclusion one can draw is the cause of such turmoil. Why, in other words, are the women in turmoil? The answer is unambiguous. Women are in turmoil because of their rocky relations with men. For one reason or another – usually some variant or other of the “men- are-pigs” mantra – men are at the root of womens’ turmoil. One could argue, of course, that male bitches about females being um, bitches or just stupid, are the male equivalent of the female men-are-pigs mantra but the past week’s crop has not been strong in this category.
Finally, the third conclusion relates to the degree to which women in turmoil define themselves in terms of their relations with men. This is perhaps the most striking of the conclusions since males very rarely define themselves to the same extent on the basis of their relations to women. Does this mean that the feminist “revolution” has not percolated down to the grass-roots female? Is she still, psychologically speaking, in servitude to the male? I leave you with that question, perhaps as a possible topic for further research.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
biology is destiny? aw crap. it seemed we lifted out of that mess for a couple of decades, now sliding back down, greased on baby-mama pride and housewives of butt-f*ck anywhere. bling. we sold our promise for paste.
only in my darkest moments, i know isn’t so universally.
but yes MM, i noticed that about recent offerings here as well. too much ‘human drama’ emphasis on the current street interpretation of drama. boooooooring!
just because you said “destiny” gdm, i love this movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_7prdLqWVA
and yes MM, i do realize the real phrase has ‘anatomy’ not biology
paingirl, appropriate movie with frankenstorm approaching!
…and hallowe’en and the american election. some looney bible thumper down south blames hurricane sandy on gay people, what a maroon
full moon tonight too
just got back from noon walkies on the barrens. i figured no hunter would be out in this weather, but there was a guy picking mushrooms, i think it was mushrooms, he should come to my back yard.
so hurricane sandy is a-coming to clean up all us degenerates eh? god sent it? cool, it fills my well.
it’s good fodder for stewart and colbert, point and laugh at the silly man
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: Mad Dog Molly (10/29, 10:14AM)
“Biology is destiny? Aw crap. .. We sold our promise for paste.”
Good afternoon Mad Dog. Is biology destiny? A good question and not only for the female. While currently a very “incorrect” view, I think it has a lot going for it and not just for the female. Differences in genitalia have a lot to answer for when it comes to gender differences, not the least of which is the radical difference in global world views as contained in the traditional “yin-yang,” the active/passive, the penetrating/ penetrated dichotomies. Don’t forget, the male is as much a product of his penis as the female is of her vagina, at least in terms of their different psychologies, their respective orientations to the world.
Perhaps your reference to the promise you sold for paste was in the last analysis illusory if, by “promise,” you meant the feminist triumph over biological differences. In my “Women in Turmoil” (10/29, 10:00AM) I made reference to the possibility that the feminist “revolution” had not percolated down to the grass-roots female but subsequent reflection raised the possibility that it was not just the failure of feminism but rather that women in turmoil is their “natural state.” Perhaps women, by their nature, are more given to moods (cf. your remark that you saw the fact that you were “boooooored” as a significant contribution to the discussion), to depression and to fits of hysteria. Look at the schoolyard playground. Who is the one usually shrieking hysterically? The girl.
Perhaps my re-naming you is fortuitous, an accurate reflection of your “natural state.” Perhaps, being female and in servitude to your vagina, the range of your mood swings is somewhat narrow but nonetheless intense, one from mild irritation to one of full-blown anger. But you mustn’t become angry, Mad Dog. It’s your just vagina speaking.
(10:36AM)
Yes, as you say Mad Dog, “anatomy” is the correct term but, on balance and in the context of the present discussion, I don’t think it makes much difference. A distinction without a difference, you might say. I hope you will not become angry on reading this.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
no MM, I was thinking of ‘the necklace’ when i jumped from bling to paste, also had a little simon and garfunkle going on in my mind. such are promises, all lies and jests. etc. it’s ok, MM, you don’t anger me. sleep easy
MM If the turmoil I feel inside is strickly because a man or lack of a man,I would be quite happy, believe me.
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: Mad Dog Molly (10/29, 4:52PM)
I suppose your contrast from “bling to paste” might be interpreted as a literalist construction in the context of “The Necklace” (whatever that might be) but I thought my metaphorical construction of “selling our promise for paste” had a deeper connotation, i.e., the failure of the feminist “revolution” when confronted by the “natural state” of the female in general. Frankly, I prefer my construction.
I am glad you are not angry with me Mad Dog but my reference to the possibility of your being so was a little bit of Montrealman’s puckish habit of getting a reaction. The idea was to force you to defend your “natural state,” i.e., that of anger which, as we all know, is the default position of the majority of females. As the noted philosopher Allan Bloom (“The Closing of the American Mind,” 1987) once remarked, “There’s a lot of angry women out there.” Indeed, indeed there are.
: Boru 1014 (10:47PM)
Well Boru, I was speaking in general terms and not referring specifically to you. You may well not define yourself in terms of your relations with men – although a few of your posts have indicated otherwise. However, many on this site appear to do so. In any case, Montrealman always dwells at higher theoretical levels Boru, more specifically at the level of philosophical reflection with detours into psychology and sociology.
Of course, should you feel so inclined, you might want to divulge the details of your case. Drawing on my considerable background in a range of theoretical studies coupled with a sharp and probing intelligence, I would happily conduct an analysis of your difficulties and – this is important – at no charge to you! Write back soon.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
MM Thank you but no thank you. I haven’t been myself lately, wether it’s love sickness or stress,it’s another bump in the road of life but, I’ll be fine. 🙂 🙂
MM there are also a lot of uncooperative females out there who do recognize attempts to force them into reacting. and who simply, do not. there is no attraction for me to a discussion with you. my apologies if my inadvertent comment to one of yours indicated any invitation to intercourse between us.
‘the necklace’ is a short story by de maupassant.
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: Boru 1014 (10/30, 10:11AM)
Whatever you say Boru. However, um, I think that should be “whether” and not “wether.”
: Mad Dog Molly (11:55AM)
Well Mad Dog, I wasn’t trying to “force” you into anything – certainly not “intercourse.” I told you that you should not get angry but there you go, reverting to your old habitual default position. It makes me wonder, I can tell you.
De Maupassant eh? A bit out of the blue, wasn’t it? Anyway, no matter. I don’t read fiction. short stories or otherwise.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
MM
Yes MM I admit,I’m fucking stupid.I’m just a big fucking waste of skin.
so, you can’t spell very well, the bear can’t read his own writing
boru, go look at other posting about retirees. writer with 15 years post grad cannot spell. (board instead of bored)
i admit spelling is a push button for me, but it is NOT an indication of stupidity.
Sweet Boru! You are absolutely NOT STUPID!!!! I know that to be true, especially after hanging with you–lighten up on yourself…maybe MM can spell, but let him be ubbbber-contrroled and distrakted by speling erers an such–he is a natural submissive to text/language, while you are not! You are able to communicate, regardless of spelling–tres cool… and you share your insights well:)…btw, when we were out you met a few of my friends Boru–all lovely men (one single even!!) plus one fine gal–really good peeps!! Good peeps are out there, like there are good peeps on here….don’t fret lovely lady:)
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: Boru 1014 (10/30, 4:44PM)
Boru, please don’t think that I think that you’re a “waste of skin.” I was just having a bit of fun, as usual. Although it is an interesting question, the correlation – if any – between intelligence and correct spelling. Probably very little. I mean, look at Mad Dog Molly – she seems to be a pretty good speller.
: Mad Dog Molly (5:15PM)
Fifteen years of post-graduate study? Hmm, let me think. No, I only have eight or nine depending on how one weights post-Baccalaureate degrees. Who could it be and how did he confuse “bored” with “board?” Was this just a rhetorical point of yours or do you have someone in mind? Can you substantiate the charge? Can you give dates and times?
(5:37PM)
A “natural submission to text/language?” A very interesting assertion Mad Dog, but what can it possibly mean? Does one submit to the fact – if it is a fact – that text and language actually mean something – they denote or point to an extra-linguistic reality – and so one who possesses a modicum of intellectual integrity “submits” to such meaning? Or are text/language “open-ended” post-modern constructs which can mean anything, or perhaps nothing, depending on the whim of the speaker/writer? I think we might have a juicy bit of philosophy to chew on here Mad Dog. Write back with your thoughts.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
good lord MM you cannot provoke me with such an obvious stick. you should be a bit ashamed of that. however, i have never worried about being underestimated. it does me no harm.
the natural submissIVE quote is from ‘she sang’ not moi.
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: Mad Dog Molly (10/30, 8:37PM)
A very puzzling post, Mad Dog. What, exactly, is that “obvious stick” with which you claim I was trying to “provoke” you? I’m in the dark on both counts. And why do you feel that I “underestimated” you? I would have said the opposite on the basis of that “juicy bit of philosophy that we could chew on.” And the “natural submissive” reference came from “She Sang?” You must try and give full citation (and credit) for your obscure references.
Mad Dog, I’m beginning to think that I overestimated you. You appear to have what is called a “butterfly mind.” Do you know what a butterfly mind is, Mad Dog? It’s a mind which flutters here, then flutters there, without rhyme nor reason. It’s not a good mental condition Bad Dog, not good at all.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
MM try reading a little psycholinguistic theory–lacan maybe, or derrida (my personal fave)….a pleasure and toodoloo…..
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: SheSang etc. (10/31, 11:38AM)
Well, as a matter of fact, I have read Lacan and and Derrida and, like the French post-modernists generally and the French psycholinguistic theorists in particular, I find them profoundly vacuous if, that is, something CAN be “profoundly vacuous.”
However, I could be wrong. I admit the possibility.Consequently I stand ready to receive your instruction in French psycholinguistic theory so that my understanding will be complete. Do not let me down. In particular, please expand fully on your views of Lacan and particularly Derrida, your favourite. I await your reflective post with considerable anticipation.
I will, of course, do a cross-examination.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
yes MM i do have a butterfly mind, but just because you cannot see the rhyme nor reason behind my intuitive leaps does not mean they do not exist. and no, i will not pee a scent trail for you to follow.
you lumber along in a rut. i am ashamed it took me so long to recognize that.
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: Mad Dog Molly (10/31, 1:10PM)
Mad Dog’s Butterfly Mind
“… but just because you cannot see the rhyme nor reason behind my intuitive leaps does not mean they do not exist.”
Well Mad Dog, what can one say? One could say, I suppose, that since your “intuitive leaps” possess neither rhyme nor reason then it is not surprising that I could not see them. You might say, in this context, that visibility is dependent on rationality. No rationality, no visibility.
On the other hand, I suppose, one might say that the existence of your “intuitive leaps” is not contingent on my seeing them, where “seeing” is to be understood in its broader intellectual sense of understanding them. This, no doubt, is true but then the requirement is you demonstrate that others, in addition to yourself, “see” them. Otherwise, you descend into solipsism, into your personal fantasy land. We must distinguish Mad Dog – if we are to maintain a foothold on reality however defined – between actual objective existence and subjective fantasy. I’m sure you will agree with that minimal condition,Mad Dog.
Perhaps if you would explain this I might then manage to emerge from “lumbering along in my rut.”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!