I wanna bitch about the people that, for lack of a better explanation – seem to marinate themselves in a bathtub full of colognes and/or perfumes.
SERIOUSLY…
If you wanna come down so hard on smokers – you should come down just as hard on ANYBODY that wears any sort of scented product. They can make it JUST as hard for certain people to breathe, if not MORE difficult than just trying to deal with 1 lil ole cigarette.
Both will gag anybody(Well, smokes don’t gag everybody..). Both will cause certain people to have attacks.
So I ask – Why is it only frowned upon to wear scents in the workplace – yet any other public area and you can douse yourself in as much cologne as you want? Sure, people bitch about it – but there are no laws against it.
Whats gonna bother you more – smoke that dissipates quickly – or a smell that will permeate a room until the point of complete over-saturation? Any place with airflow and smoke isn’t a problem.. Somebody that douses the entire bottle on themselves will be a problem unless they’re in a vacuum chamber.
The brainwashed will rant on about that 1 cigarette. Anybody else with a brain will see my point.
And furthermore, when I’m dead at 57 after really using no healthcare money – you can lay there in your deathbed at the age of 95, while waiting for every organ in your body to fail…
And laugh knowing that it was MY money, foolishly spent on cigarettes that paid for the machines keeping you alive.
Seacrest, Out!
—The King of Donair
This article appears in Nov 5-11, 2009.
I was going to write a similar bitch, but was too lazy. I have no problem with scents in small doses. A little cologne or perfume is fine by me, but if I can walk down a hallway a full 5 minutes after you’ve walked down it and still smell your cologne as if I’m standing right next to you, YOU ARE WEARING TOO MUCH!
public smoking bans are about protecting the long-term health of people who work in bars and offices, etc who would be exposed to smoke for hours a day over many years. No-scent policies (not laws) are about providing an environment free of airborn irritants to protect people with respiratory problems and sensitive airways. They are different things. Too much cologne is bad, and so is prolonged exposure to cigarette smoke.
Also, revenue collected from cigarette taxes does not cover the economic burden of smoking. Also, cigarette taxes are not earmarked specifically for Health Care. The purpose of the tax is to act as a disincentive to smoking…and it works.
as i only wear cologne when i go out somewhere nice, and its a small spritz on the neck, i dont think im a large footprint of that smell. I do however find great humour in these “SENSITIVE” to smell people, its funny because most of them pick and chose their battles…i know a woman who came in to my significant others’ workplace demanding everyone use non scented hand sanitizer because she was so smell sensitive…yet they caught her dipping her snoz right into the scented candles like it was nothing at the shop. FOR FUCK SAKE are you scent sensitive or ARENT YOU?!! Sorry folks but if there is something that isnt pleasing to my olfactory nerves….i fucking move. why post a bitch about it?
Holy fucking shit your comparing smoking to cologne!!! Why don’t you just compare my ass crack to roses. You smokers are so warped it’s insane. You leave your stink everywhere, my hall way at my apt building smells as bad as ass because of you idiots. I don’t want to smell either one so take your fucking smoking outdoors away from buildings. To the idiot on the other thread that said smoking is not as bad as crack heads, because they don’t steal cheat lie etc to get smokes. Well if smokes were illegal tomorrow and when the price was the same as crack people would be sucking you know what for smokes. God knows, look how addictive nicotine is I am sure people would do far worst for it, it’s worst then crack. You smokers are the crack heads of the worst kind your stink is everywhere as non-smokers just want to be free from you dummies. It’s laughable that you say shit like “oh some people like the smell of cigarettes” yes I also like the smell of BO and dirty ass. Like smoking fine, go ahead, I hope you ass dies of cancer, and go do it some where in the woods where we don’t have to smell your dirty shit. Not everyone can just up and move when they were roped into a years lease. The idiot apts put up no smoking signs that say no smoking in enclose places in the building tricking you into thinking that would include a fucking apt. Yes there is the magical wall that keeps shit stink out of the hallway and other apartments. Man you people are fucking idiots.
Solution to not smelling like cigarette smoke everywhere you go while still being able to light up and feel good at the same time: smoke marijuana! Works for me. It doesn’t smell, right?
Everyone would be required to have good marijuana. The cheapos smells like plastic dog shit set on fire.
Cuja – FYI, scents in hand sanitizers *tend* to be chemical while those in things like candles *tend* to be natural. It’s not generally the *scent* people are sensitive to, it’s the cehmical that makes the scent, or the carrier it’s based in.
I once worked in a scent-free office where we had to compare the ingredients of every scented thing in the building with the Lung Associations list of “ok” chemicals used in scented products.
Seriously, how would any of you wankers have survived 20 years ago when smoking was everywhere and everyone wore cologne or perfume. Not to say that the crack down on public cigarette smoking is a bad thing, but please stop bitching about this shit. It’s redundant and tiring.
i remember when you could smoke on planes…depending how many people requested smoking they would just move the little sign
Killerb…your ass crack smells like roses !
Wow, how did you ever discover that ?
Although I do hate the eye watering associated from bathing in perfume/cologn. I perfer smelling a cheap perfume to smelling unwashed armpit &/or ass (even if that ass supposedly smells like a rose ) I just can’t help but think that a sweaty rose just wouldn’t smell as sweet 😉
killerb:
“You smokers are the crack heads of the worst kind your stink is everywhere as non-smokers just want to be free from you dummies. It’s laughable that you say shit like “oh some people like the smell of cigarettes” yes I also like the smell of BO and dirty ass. Like smoking fine, go ahead, I hope you ass dies of cancer, and go do it some where in the woods where we don’t have to smell your dirty shit.”
See what, I’m saying? Emotion so strong that killerb wishes death on smokers.
I am pretty sure that I don’t want to smell your ass, killerb, but I won’t kick it out of the building when it decides to ‘breathe’.
Scent sensitivity in most cases = mass hysteria. wait another ten years and people will be looking back on all this scent stuff and laughing. Get out of Halifax, we are the only scent sensitive crazy types in the world practically.
I even remember seeing my teachers smoke in the staff smoking room at my elementary school, and this was only about 15 years ago! My my how far we’ve come.
If you want to see what we were like with regards to smoking and scents 15 years ago, go to ohh so much more advanced than us Europe – scents and smoking galore! Last time I was there you could still smoke on the commuter trains and everything. They generally have much worse problems with alcohol, xenophobia, and violence over there too… ohh, but I forgot, all the elitists here try to shove down our throats how much better Europe is than North America and how we should strive to be more like them after visiting a few of the nicer towns on their little two month backpacking adventure. No thanks!
“”Also, revenue collected from cigarette taxes does not cover the economic burden of smoking.””
Proof?
“”The purpose of the tax is to act as a disincentive to smoking…””
Really? That’s the only purpose? Perhaps then, that money could be given to charity by the gov’t…guffaw
The “purpose” of the ban on public smoking is to force more people to quit…after their children come home from school crying that mommy and daddy are killing everyone around them etc etc .
And who leads the fight for public bans? Pharmacuetical nicotine, that’s who.
If the “government REALLY wanted everyone to quit, why is Nicoderm et al not covered as health treatments?
T^hought so…
qxrtchkkqxtprxcwttyqrwxxzz…It’s true that in many parts of the EU citizens are free to enjoy a bottle of wine in a park, smoke a joint at the beach, have a ciggie in out of the rain in designated and well-ventilated areas, and so on and so forth…
…all things that we in the land of the free are “forbidden” to do by our masters…and you actually think that’s somehow better?!
baaaa…
give this person a fucking medal will you all. yes, you are absolutely right about the stink from fucking perfume and shit. everytime i go some place to eat out, there is that disgusting fucking aroma washing over me and everyone else within breathing space. if you are going to douse yourself in this shit, then stay the fuck away from the rest of us, that don’t want to get the heaves. the older gals are the worst,60 plus types, that have a lake of this cheap crap and swim in it for an hour,before going out in public. you know who you are, if you read the coast online.yes, the aroma of 1 smoke does disapate after a very short while, but hat other crap lingers on, long after you have passed us by. give us and all human kind a break,and have a bath once in awhile, or stay the fuck inside, away from the rest of the world.
A few years ago my buddy and I were walking around downtown one afternoon. We walked past the library and through pizza corner. And that was where I caught a whiff of the greatest scent ever known to mankind!! There was a guy sitting on the steps of the church, smoking a joint and Subway was baking fresh cookies. The smell of pot and fresh baked subway cookies combined is the most intoxicating thing my olfactory nerves have ever witnessed!! It was awesome!
Mistah Frosty, I’m not saying that it’s necessarily better myself personally since I do enjoy those things from time to time myself, it’s just that when the rest of the world is moving to limit and restrict smoking, therefore “advancing” in the eyes of most of the world, while much of Europe is just starting to talk about restrictions such as these after looking at examples from here in North America, it kind of bothers me when people say “ohh, everything is so much more advanced over in Europe!” Like I also said, it’s not just the smoking laws, but also alcohol, xenophobia, violence, even sexism that is still a much bigger problem in most of Europe. While there’s generally no problem enjoying a glass of wine over a picnic in the park, it is when you see a bunch of yobbos also enjoying their right to get pissed and cause a nuisance right next to you. Alcoholism is especially a much worse problem in the UK, and just about any Brit who visits here will tell you how much more they like it here than over there. If you’re an attractive woman, try walking down the street of any major Spanish, Italian, or Greek city at just about any time of the day without getting catcalled or aggressively hit on. If that happened here, the police would be called! People also tend to be a lot more openly racist.
Anyway, slightly more back on topic… wow, weed and fresh Subway cookies? I think I’ve just found myself a plan for tonight!
Some things ARE more ‘advanced’…for instance Europeans love using bicycles and small-engined cars…about half are diesel, and most are standard shift. they are ahead of the curve there because fuel has always been more costly there.
Over here, we still see single-passenger SUV’s and mini-vans in the suberbs way too much. Also due to fuel prices, you see tons of little scooters and motorcycles, all of which are (unofficially) allowed to “slip” along between lanes…and are often seen sharing bicycle lanes – something that if you did here, some pedalist would shit his bike pants with rage and fling his flavoured water bottle at you…
Alcoholism in the UK? Yep…they have this “binge drinking” culture, where they don’t drink much during the week, but at the weekend the streets are filled with lager louts, drinks in hand, shirts in the other, lol…mostly in the city centers though.
Sexism? In some countries more than others…yes, the “latin” countries have a bit of a wolf-whistle tendency I agree, but the women are strong and give it right back, in my experience.
As for smoking laws…not sure when you were last there, but right before I moved back to Canada from the UK in 2006, after living/working there for 7 years, they were already planning a nationwide ban by this year…and it was banned in Ireland already. It’s now banned, believe it or not, in Paris cafés!
Cel phones are wayyyy more advanced…folks were already txting there in 2000, before it was even known here. Incoming calls are free. There is tons of compitition for internet/cel…not the collusion and price-fixing of the big three we have here, and so rate packages are MUCH cheaper…travelling around the EU, the max roaming charge is about 60 cents per minute…try $2.00 for your trip to Florida!
TV? Although there is a licence fee in the UK for ‘rabbit ears’…it keeps the ads off the BBC, and I support it…they have 5 national networks, not 3 like us…and with a $40 digital box you can get dozens of channels WITHOUT paying monthly cable fees…most of the UK there HAS no cable (yet)…they don’t need it.
Kinda beats the ole CBC and CTV….plus there is little or no CENSORSHIP on EU terrestial TV…movies are shown uncut after 21:00 in the UK at least…
Ever try to watch the Sopranos on CTV?! lol *beep!*
Anyway, yeah I used to get a lot of folks asking why I’d want to live there rather than here…but that’s the British…they like to think that we live the high life like they see on the telly, lol.
Most people I know from London, or Manchester, would love it here, sure, until the first winter, and the first time the RCMP seized their beer at Point Pleasant park and gave them a huge fine…they’d be horrified… and where’s all the movie stars?
And people getting pissed and causing a nuisance is illegal everywhere, and SHOULD be dealt with be the law enforcement…but what we have is an archaic blanket ban on consuming “evil” alchohol where the kids can see, lol…ridiculous. The vast majority of folks having a bottle of wine and a sly joint in a park in Berlin are NOT going to cause trouble. Why do we have to suffer stupid 1930’s-style prohibitions for the actions of 1 in a thousand people!? Because it’s EASIER for the police, that’s why…
Nova Scotia has evey bit as many drinkers…just many do it at home, in secret! Brits like to go down the local pub (where they keep an eye out for each other, actually, in my experience…many pubs have no bouncers)
The numbers for beer/liquor sales show this, google it….Canadians are secret boozers…
Gidget, organic or chemical, there’s no difference. All natural items are full of chemicals, be it plant animal or rock. It’s what we are made of. that’s the same logic as saying anything natural isn’t dangerous. Flawed logic.
When I come inside after having a good smoke, I spray myself with perfume to mask the smell!
Bro Tim:
I get what you’re saying, but if you look at the MSDS sheets for things like hand sanitizer, there *is* a difference – trust me, I had to research every brand available for a former employer because if it had a “chemically produced” scent, it was not on the list of “allowable” products according to the list we received from the lung association’s “OK” products. If it had a “naturally derived” scent like lemon oil, it was allowed.
Again, perhaps I didn’t explain myself particularly well originally. Trust me, I try to forget the three weeks it took me to find an “acceptable” brand of hand sanitizer that fit our “no scent” policy.
Smoke and perfumes are just the tip of the iceberg of triggers for multiple chemical sensitivities and allergies. There is no possible way to accommodate all of the people who suffer from these conditions outside of creating sterile bubble areas or suits. The list of triggers are just too vast. Here are just a few:
http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-informa…
The smell of smoking is not the problem. It’s trying to walk down the street while having smoke blown into your face and being forced to breath the shit in. People don’t stand near buildings on the street spraying people with bottles of perfume.
any GOOD perfume should consist of only a couple things, a natural oil extract and some distilled water and alcohol. that being said i have 4 bottles of natural stuff i bought for my wife and she barely uses the stuff. Gidget you may be correct about the “natural ingredients” in candles(i think you are full of it myself) but it doesnt take away the fact that when you have 200 candles…there is an overwhelming scent in the store. just like walking through the cosmetic section of the BAY or Sears. its enough to knock you on your ass. SO MY POINT is that MOST “scent sensitive” arsewipes ive ever met, have no problem with certain scents, but when they see someone they dont particularly like…they tend to explode because that person was wearing a “scent” that made them “sensitive” Im just glad ive never had to feel the wrath of these sensitive types as of yet.
Cuja:
You’re entitled to your opinion, and I agree that many of these “sensitives” are full of shit.
I do have to say, though, that I am fine with scents, but Musk perfumes or colognes make me wheeze. (And I don’t have asthma or allergies).
I almost killed my husband the first time I tried to deodorize our carpet because of something in the UNSCENTED product (which still has scent BTW), but I can use Baking Soda just fine.
My point is that in most cases, it is *not generally the actual SCENT that is the problem* – it’s the chemicals they use to bind the scent to the product that causes the sensitivities…
Hence the reason I spent three weeks reading and comparing that stupid list for my former employer… and we *still* had certain people bitching because they didn’t like the alcohol smell in the hand sanitizer.
lol i fully understand where you are coming from…but with your last statement, it clearly isnt a situation where the people are threatened by the alcohol smell with any life or death concerns…they just dont like it. to me those people arent actually “sensitive” at all, they are just being whiney bitches. To the people who have genuine medical concerns, where they are going to die immediately or within 15 minutes or so of the chemical…they have the legitimate beef.
dude, I sooooo tuned out after weed and cookies.
Agreed. But the employees we had who genuinely had “environmental sensitivities” were few and far between – there were several people who “faked” it to get our of work when we were painting, for example.
The problem with the scent-free thing is a) it’s damned hard to prove, and b) the “scensitivities” are caused mostly by actual chemicals, so you can’t pinpoit just one, and therefore have to be a Nazi about “reproduced” smells of any sort if you want to be fair to the people that actually have health concerns.
On the flip side:
I once worked in a place where one employee supposedly had a deathly allergy to kiwi fruit – apparently even the smell would send her into some sort of coma or something. 650 employees were not allowed to bring anything with kiwi in it. It was posted EVERYWHERE. They sent a girl home and almost fired her saying she had attempted to “kill” the allergic employee because they checked the ingredients in a moisturizer on her desk.
The interesting parts were
a) the kiwi in it was a reproduced scent only (no actual kiwis in the moisturizer, just enough chemicals to make it smell like it had a little kiwi in it)
b) the employee worked part time in the produce section of a grocery store, and being around kiwis didn’t send her into a coma on every shift
c) the “allergic” employee shared that moisturizer EVERY DAY for over a month before she noticed the picture of the kiwi on it and freaked out
So, I reiterate again, it’s not the “scent” people are sensitive to, generally, it’s the chemicals used to bind them to the products. Oh, and I also reiterate, people are fucked.