…the Catholic Church approves a fucking app to make a confession. They’d be better off developing a pedophile detector app. I cannot believe people still buy the church’s utter bullshit (and the rules that keep changing—limbo or no limbo?) but then again there are feebs out there that buy the ridiculous concept of Mormonism. —There’s a sucker born every minute

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  1. The article I read said they didn’t approve of it… that it did not compare with live confession. I’ll bet they think that. I should think if you’re so worried about a paedophile app (which is not a bad idea) you’d think this was a good idea. Keep the kids away from the priests

  2. All religions and faith based belief systems are equally ridiculous. We just think of some as stranger because they aren’t as old and don’t have the veil of time to shade their eccentricities.

  3. “All religions and faith based belief systems are equally ridiculous.” – Does that also include, theoretical quantum mechanics, ontology, epistemology, and metaphysics? 😉

  4. Hmm, the Vatican, and the app developer both state the app is not meant to substitute actual confession. It is meant as a tool to prepare you for an actual confession. While I agree it is silly (confession) and the church as a whole has lost most of my respect in recent years, I suggest you read more then headlines, and form opinions from the actual facts.

  5. In a world where the mirror ap exists (you know.. download a “mirror” that simply turns your screen off so there’s a slight reflection..-_-) you’d think this wouldn’t get the reaction it did. But i guess throw in enough buzzwords and any sheep will baa.

    Seriously, there’s no shortage of dumb apps out there. Why does this one in particular hit such a nerve?

  6. snoop actually… as a person with a science background, I have encountered religious scientists every day. People who don’t know WHY they believe in something (be it evolution, big bang theory, whatever) They’ve never done any reading on the subject, never even watched a documentary about it. Yet they “believe” it’s true.

    These people do NOT speak for me. Because they’re fucking religious. Anyone who can’t see that is probably one of them.

  7. Haha, well technically ontology, epistemology, and metaphysics are branches of philosophy and thus I don’t give a shit if someone calls them “faith based”. Because well, philosophy in general is like an upside down triangle. It’s based on a few simple principles at the bottom, if disproved the entire theory built on top of them collapses. Whether or not those few principles are based on faith or not is a whole other discussion that would only be of any value if one was to look at each branch individually and within that each philosopher, which I’m so not going to do, mostly because I don’t care.

    But don’t mix quantum mechanics up with that shit, even the theoretical stuff. Given, there’s a lot of debate over the falsifiability of a lot of theories within quantum mechanics. As far as I know most of them are unprovable but falsifiable, which generally means that they can only ever be proven wrong, which isn’t ideal. But the great thing about that is that because it’s the only option physicists are always debating trying to prove each others’ theories wrong without (killing each other).

  8. More like, you know the world is getting truly lazy when…
    I mean, there are decision making apps, apps that count for you, there is even an iLover app (not quite sure what this one does but it may be worth a look ; p )

  9. isosceles_kramer, you can’t possibly think that a layman who believes the earth goes around the sun does so because he simply has faith in it. I’m very disappointed that a self proclaimed “person with a science background ” thinks so little of the people who are on their side.

    Never argument from authority no, but I as a layman who LOVES science and who reads about it every chance I get, I am not faith based. If that were the case then an argument could be made that YOU believe that the earth goes around the sun because you have faith in it (just like religious people have faith in god) simply because you haven’t personally ever been in outer space far enough for long enough to actually see first hand that the earth indeed goes around the sun.

    That’s a simplistic black and white argument I’d never expect to hear from a “person with a science background “. Scientists rely on the work and research of countless scientists before them and spend their lives building on that given knowledge. So by your OWN argument you are a fucking hypocrite! No matter how much research you do and regardless of how big your “science background” is.

    At some point we have to accept that some things are true and some are not, and build upon that lest no progress be made. And the scientific method is the best device we have to find out what is and is not true. So why wouldn’t laymen put their trust in the things literally millions of scientists have for centuries and currently agree upon? That’s not faith, that’s trusting a proven credible and reliable source for good reason.

    Sure I can read about evolution (which I do all the time because it’s fascinating) and see pictures but, hey if I don’t personally witness something evolving I can’t ever know for sure! Therefore I have to have faith in evolution to accept it as true! That’s the extreme you have to take your argument to if you’re willing to stand behind it, it’s an argument by the way, that is used by creationists… CREATIONISTS FOR GOODNESS SAKE!

    It would be nice if everyone in the world could personally witness the truth about everything, but we simply can’t. I’m all for people researching things before they choose to believe in them, I’m a skeptic, a critical thinker and I think everyone should be one too. But no human has the time (Seriously 80 years isn’t enough) to become an expert in every given scientific field, expecting people to do that is just dumb. So is expecting them to just not believe in anything until they get a degree in it.

    So we have to be critical of our sources. Yes? And most people aren’t, there’s enough pseudoscience out there to prove that fact. But those who are have to make sure that the truths we accept have come from properly performed experiments (double blinded, repetition, etc), we have to look at the scientists doing them and make sure they are qualified, look at their track record… do they have a history of bad science? Do they have anything to gain from this particular outcome (MR Andrew Wakefield)? Are their findings peer reviewed? etc etc. But even people who don’t do any of this (shame on them, they should, it’s easier than ever with the all access pass to everything that was ever known aka the internet) aren’t basing it on faith. They are trusting science as a method because it works.

    Saying people are just as blind as religious people because they trust the scientific method is a truly idiotic statement, and honestly makes me doubt your credibility as a “person with a science background”. That’s an argument I hear all the time from people who don’t have the faintest clue about what the scientific method actually is and how it works.

    “I think you’ll find that you FAITH in science and tests is just as blind as the faith of any fundamentalist”

    “Well, that’s a good point, let me think for a bit… Oh wait my mistake, that’s absolute bullshit. Science adjusts it’s views based on what’s observed, faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved.”

    -Tim Minchin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0W7Jbc_Vhw

  10. Well Hugo, religious killings don’t really set a high bar to clear.

    I’m not one to site all the horrible things religious people have done in the past to prove a point. That whole debate style is useless and a correlation = causation logical fallacy.

    But I do know that truly believing that God is speaking to you be it through prayer, or visions, or dreams, or scripture, etc. is an easy way to truly justify in one’s mind even the most heinous acts. Because there is no consequence higher than God and therefore, earthly morals no longer apply. That’s how completely sane people get brainwashed into doing horrible things, they truly believe.

  11. Like preserving the democratic way? Hiroshima, Kabul, Baghdad?

    How about these “peaceful” deterents
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czyfmemWYok

    How about the scientist who decided to test theories of natural Selecion, on humans?

    Do you happen to know, WHY, we know so much about hyperthermia and survival?

    God had nothing to do with the above, other that giving us the intelligence and self-determination to do those things. For someone who dosen’t believe in God, you sure do put a lot of blame on God.

  12. The only thing I have against James Randi (a very smart fellow indeed) is that he doesn’t believe that duck-billed platypuses exist. The stuffed one I saw at the British Natural Museum was pretty fucking convincing.

  13. Like I said:

    “I’m not one to site all the horrible things religious people have done in the past to prove a point. That whole debate style is useless and a correlation = causation logical fallacy.”

    You seem to have no problem doing just that though but I’m still not going to feed into it. “Nuclear bombs exist therefore science is evil”, isn’t an argument worth considering. Just like “the crusades happened therefore Christianity is evil”. Nothing is that simple.

    However, I will always know that a rationalist approach to the world will always be better for people than a blind faith based approach. That’s my opinion, don’t like it? Fine, I don’t care, but don’t throw cliche “arguments” at me. I’ve heard it all before and guess what? I’m still an atheist.

    So black an white! throw Hiroshima or (insert bad person from history that happened to also be an theist/scientist) in my face ignoring all the history and politics around it as an argument against how I think blindly having faith is dangerous. Not impressed.

    And by God, I mean belief in a higher power, not the Judeo-Christian God specifically. And yes, that higher power as a concept has done a lot of harm in the world and is still doing a lot of harm, don’t confuse ‘me blaming a belief other people have in a higher power’ with ‘me inadvertently admitting that I actually believe in God by blaming a belief other people have in a higher power.’ People love to accuse atheists of that when they don’t have any good counter arguments.

  14. TTFN, James Randi doesn’t believe that duck-billed platypuses exist? Not a joke? Lolz. BTY,loved the tin hat 🙂

  15. Randi had published a book called: ‘An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural’ in the 90s when he claimed he didn’t believe in the existence of the duck-billed platypus – I was quite surprised.

  16. I looked it up on that site, Snoop, and what he said was in regard to another entry:

    bunyip: In Australian aboriginal lore, a roaring, hairy monster known for jumping out of water holes to terrify passers-by. Also known as the yaa-loo and the wowee-wowee, names possibly derived from the reactions of a person encountering one at a quiet water-hole. It must be remembered that Australians tend to invent things (such things as the quite impossible duck-billed platypus) just to amuse themselves at the expense of gullible tourists.

    Sorry, Randi, I’ve seen the real fucking thing.

  17. And don’t forget that a lot of people including scientists (James Randi is not one) did believe that the platypus was a hoax when it was discovered because, well, look at that little fucker. They were skeptical and thought that a taxidermist with an imagination had slapped a duckbill on a beaver or something. Turns out it wasn’t a hoax and that’s the end of that.

  18. TTFN, that’s a joke…

    It’s a reference to, well what I just wrote about… everyone thought it was made up but wasn’t.

    You know he doesn’t actually believe it doesn’t exist right?

  19. … because if he actually believed it didn’t exist it would, you know, have it’s own entry in the encyclopedia…

  20. Philiosophy aside, I wonder why people would want their confessions sent out in a way that’s much less private than sitting in the box. If anyone is interested it probably wouldn’t be hard to intercept these transmissions. Then again, if my privacy hasn’t been well invaded by now someone isn’t doing their job.

  21. “don’t forget that a lot of people including scientists (James Randi is not one) did believe that the platypus was a hoax when it was discovered because, well, look at that little fucker. They were skeptical and thought that a taxidermist with an imagination had slapped a duckbill on a beaver or something. Turns out it wasn’t a hoax and that’s the end of that.”

    Which is why, since a hoax hasn’t be uncovered, I will keep an open mind about the possibility that the creation of our world might have been directed.

  22. Ahhhhh, so he’s a comedic writer, got it.

    BTW Snoop, God has sent me a message, on more than one occasion. Guess what? God has never told me to do anything evil, quite the opposite, the last message I got literally prevented me from doing great viloence.

  23. all hail and bow down to the great flying speghetti monster thru me, I AM LIFE SUCKS. fuck, i loved doing that.

  24. and by the way, randi is right up there in a world of his own creation, right next to erik von danikan. both seem to be of the same planet, just not this one. a platypus is an aussie rat that they couldn’t drown, and bit a duck in the ass to keep it afloat.

  25. Anyway god doesn’t exist, all the faith based evil people do is because evil people tell them that’s what god is saying and they believe it blindly.

    And yeah, he’s not a comedic writer, he’s not even a writer really. He’s a conjurer (as he puts it) with a sense of humour who has happened to have written a few books.

  26. Life Sucks, I usually just ignore your comments because they are hard to read, no offense… but you really had no idea who James Randi was until this thread did you?

    For the last friggin time he knows platypuses exist… Jesus Christ.

    TTFN was wrong. End of story.

  27. Hahaha Kim, that is quite possibly the first time I’ve ever heard someone use the existence of the platypuses as probable cause for the existence of god or intelligent design…

    http://www.motifake.com/comment/89453

    Nevermind… god dammit.

    That only took one Google search for christs sake.

    Still a more compelling argument than Hugo’s putting forth. 😛

    I kid I kid.

  28. Silly Snoop, that wasn’t an argument for god, that was an argument for something real existing beyond the experience of man. It caused dis-belief, skepticism and denial until it was finally verified.
    I’m saying, science, so far, has closed some doors but it hasn’t advanced so far that we should seal all the windows shut too.
    Not a big deal…like thinking about the existence of multiple dimensions.

  29. No God = no reason.

    Paingirl, of course you’ve & most others have helped. I took everybodys advice, and didn’t fuck my X and send her husband the pics.

    What I referd to was before my LTWWB days (actually that wasn’t the last messge). It was a big slap, up-side the head. Nothing like the prospect of Hell to keep a boy on the straight & narrow 🙂

    “he knows platypuses exist” well yea….”now” he does 😀

    Can you see Bambi in my AV? That was yesterday, today we caught sight of a beautiful, very big Fox (no pic).

  30. “something real existing beyond the experience of man. It caused dis-belief, skepticism and denial until it was finally verified.”

    …by the platypus? I’m so confused. You broke my brain Kim, sorry paingirl.

    And let me make clear again that when I say “god” it’s just term I use so I don’t have to say “omnipotent higher power ” or “something real existing beyond the experience of man” or “chi” or whatever woo one happens to believe in. As far as I can tell, we’re talking about the same thing.

    “I’m saying, science, so far, has closed some doors but it hasn’t advanced so far that we should seal all the windows shut too.”

    That’s a ‘god of the gaps’ argument. (Not actually god, refer to above). Just because we don’t know the answers to some things yet, does not mean that they are unanswerable. Throughout history every thing we didn’t know or understand, while thought to be the work of gods or spirits or aliens or what have you, has always turned out… not to be. Science has been steadily narrowing down the list of things that have yet to be explained. There’s no reason for that trend to cease now or ever.

    By looking at all the things we currently don’t know and saying, “I don’t know what did that so God/spirits/aliens must have done it” is actually prematurely answering the question and halting progress. Whatever answers are really out there waiting to be discovered (by the scientific method) are going to be much more amazing than anything humans have so far dreamed up (God, spirits, aliens, something real beyond human experience)

    So why give up and assume something supernatural did it, that’s really shutting your windows Kim, if we do that we’ll never really find out the answers. Science opens windows, makes discoveries and unearths further questions for exploration. Faith and supernaturalism (is that a word?) closes windows.

    But, you’re right in that “Something real beyond human experience” does exist. Lots of them exist right now. It’s just that science will let us experience them, whatever they might be. Cosmic space teapots, who knows. But once science finds the cosmic space teapots and they are no longer mysterious, people who have your line of thinking will still find something to be mystified about… until science explains that too. It’s a vicious cycle you see.

  31. Of course you have a reason paingirl. Just because I can’t prove that fermions exist, dosen’t mean that they aren’t there.

    ralmn, that child had more ability & talent at 4, than I do now. Wow.
    Hopefully the nut jobs will be kept away from her. Does UCLA have a Childrens Arts program?

  32. Lol, Hugo, I was just saying he knew it when he wrote the book, well into the nineties apparently, way after it was accepted by the scientific community.

    If the “no punishment in hell thus no moral compass” argument was true, then all atheists everywhere would be murdering people and no priest would have ever fucked a little kid.

    I find that whole argument offensive as an atheist. Kind of like how you find it offensive that I think your belief in God is a delusion. Fair enough?

    Besides, being good just because you might go to hell for misbehaving isn’t really being good. That’s how you train animal to not shit on the floor. I have a little more faith in humanity than that.

    Hugo, you should read “The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values” by Sam Harris. But be warned, an atheist with no moral compass wrote it.

  33. “By looking at all the things we currently don’t know and saying, “I don’t know what did that so God/spirits/aliens must have done it””

    I don’t believe this. Actually, I love science, I am excited about what has been found and thrilled by the possibilities–they are so much bigger and more awe-inspiring than any deity of the past.

    I have quoted this before, but Einstein expresses my feeling much more eloquently than I can:

    “The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties – this knowledge, this feeling … that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.”

    He also said this, by the way:
    “Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.”

  34. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Who said that? CARL FUCKIN’ SAGAN YEAAAAAH!!!!

    If someone claims that a 600,000 meter tall purple space elephant exists, then he burden of proof is on the person claiming it’s existence, not those denying it.

    Also applies to all other things people claim to exist.

    alien abductions, no credible evidence yet
    god, no credible evidence yet
    psychics, no credible evidence yet
    ghosts,bunnies, lots of credible evidence
    bunnies, lots of credible evidence
    bigfoot, no credible evidence yet
    etc.

  35. In fact, if I were the groupie type, there are several scientists I would like to re-create the big bang with. = p
    Never feel that way about a preacher or guru = )

  36. “600,000 meter tall purple space elephant”

    Hey, I’m working on it, but give me some time!…jeeze! everyone expects everything yesterday!

  37. But what I’m saying is that morality, empathy, reason does exist.

    I hate using cleches, but how about “you don’t have to believe in God, God believes in you”.
    Just because you and others, many of whom I admire & respect, don’t believe in God or a higher reason for being, does not make it so.

    I remind you again about another faith based belief. Quantum mechanics and string theory. An entire branch of science based totally on indirect observation. I liken it to a bunch of blind peole, smashing rocks together, making gravel, and from that, deducing what an ocean beach is like.

    No one ever, religious, philosophical, or scientific, has provided me with a satisfactory answer to this question. Where did that singularity come from?

  38. Kim, I totally get the first quote minus all the religious crap. That’s what science does for me, inspires this incredible feeling of awe and wonderment. I never felt that after years of being a devout catholic, not until I started studying astronomy and biology, not until I fell in love with science. The excitement of the unknown and of the quest for the truth.

    But the second quote. I disagree completely with Einstein yeah. A lot of people do. Be careful not to argue from authority, because you’re getting dangerously close to it. I like great quotes by great people as much as the next guy. But if you’re basing your entire wold view entirely on what someone else has said, or at the very least using what someone else has said to make your arguments, then you’re not going to sound very convincing.

    Also, quoting a bunch of scientists who are religious is also a cliche argument that every atheist has encountered a thousand times before. So far no one has been convinced by it.

    On a side not, I love how some religious people so detest science but desperately want it’s approval. And think their argument is won because some physicist believed in god.

  39. ===No God = no reason.===

    Just because *you* need a threat from above to not kill someone doesn’t mean everyone else does.

    ===I hate using cleches, but how about “you don’t have to believe in God, God believes in you”.===

    Problem with slogans is they are empty calories, reason-wise.
    ie: I don’t care about gays, as long as one doesn’t come on to me, or
    But I have black friends!, or
    You don’t have to believe in God, God believes in you.

    To me, meaningless. I may as well say you don’t have to believe in Capt Picard, Capt Picard believes in you.
    Your belief doesn’t prove anything, and saying “but God believes in you” sounds kinda condescending and even passive aggressive, to someone without your chosen beliefs.

    ===Just because you and others, many of whom I admire & respect, don’t believe in God or a higher reason for being, does not make it so.===

    In your opinion.

  40. Hey, I’m a High Priestess of the Cosmos, chosen by the Cosmic Muffin who spins on the Eternal Plate of Knowledge – I know Nirvana will be a baker’s dozen of Crispy Cremes.

  41. Like I said, I don’t like using cheches, except this one.

    I have my opinion & you have your opinion. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

    Opinions are like hemorrhoids, lots of assholes have them.

  42. You didn’t Kim? I guess I must have misread you comment then, sorry.

    Hugo, you love Dr. Michio Kaku don’t you?

    I don’t study or know much about quantum physics, it confuses the fuck outta me, and has no relevance to my life. But I’m glad you seem to have such a good handle on it 🙂

    It’s nice to have an argument centered around what even the most highly educated scientists (in other fields) can’t wrap their heads around, you can’t lose! I’d really love for a quantum physicist to stumble across this thread and take up your challenge though. If you’re actually a quantum physicist, I’ll totally put my foot in my mouth HAHa.

    I guess when one doesn’t have any positive arguments in favor of one’s position they can always just find flaws in a scientific discipline they don’t understand in the slightest and claim that because they can’t figure it out, it has no value and thus, all other scientific areas also must be flawed and thus, have no value and thus, god exists and science sucks. Or whatever it was you were hoping to accomplish with that argument (argument from ignorance?)…

    Given, there’s a whole arsenal of inside jokes among scientists about how loony and crazy quantum physicists are. Because quantum physics is fucking bananas man!

    … literally!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akc5w_ZqByY

    Who was disappointed that video wasn’t of someone actually fucking a banana? At the very least, that video fucked my brain with a banana… does that count?

  43. Even without the subtitles, that was funny = )

    I enjoy Clifford Simak’s explorative musings:

    “There was so much knowledge in the galaxy and he knew so little of it, understood so little of the little that he knew.
    There were men on Earth who could make sense of it. Men who would give anything short of their very lives to know the little that he knew, and could put it all to use.
    Out among the stars lay a massive body of knowledge, some of it an extension of what mankind knew, some of it concerning matters which Man had not yet suspected, and used in ways and for purposes that Man had not as yet imagined. And never might imagine, if left on his own.”

    “A machine, a mechanism, no more than a tool ” technological brother to the hoe, the wrench, the hammer” and yet as far a cry from these as the human brain was from that first amino acid which had come into being on this planet when the Earth was very young. One was tempted, Enoch thought, to say that this was as far as a tool could go, that it was the ultimate in the ingenuity possessed by any brain. But that would be a dangerous way of thinking, for perhaps there was no limit, there might, quite likely, be no such condition as the ultimate; there might be no time when any creature or any group of creatures could stop at any certain point and say, this is as far as we can go, there is no use of trying to go farther. For each new development produced, as side effects, so many other possibilities, so many other roads to travel, that with each step one took down any given road there were more paths to follow. There’d never be an end, he thought” no end to anything.”
    ~The Way Station

    “It seems to me, thinking of it, that there must be some universal plan which set in motion the orbiting of the electrons about the nucleus and the slower, more majestic orbit of the galaxies about one another to the very edge of space. There is a plan, it seems to me, that reaches out of the electron to the rim of the universe and what this plan may be or how it came about is beyond my feeble intellect. But if we are looking for something on which to pin our faith – and, indeed, our hope – the plan might well be it. I think we have thought too small and have been too afraid…”
    ~A Choice of Gods

  44. Yeah, the subtitles ruin it for me. Overkill. I couldn’t find one without them though. And by “couldn’t find one” I mean “the first one I clicked on happened to have subtitles”

  45. I’ve *seen* Picard, heard his word, watched him Palm the Holy Face(palm be upon it).

    He got all pissy when I pointed out his was just another opinion.
    ==Opinions are like hemorrhoids, lots of assholes have them.==

    A slogan. Kind of roooo.

  46. There is an APP for everything… It’s getting a little bit over-board. Every commercial is like “DOWNLOAD YOUR APP TODAY”

  47. snoop, if you are so fucking intelligent, why are you running for public office? or even running for ruler of the fucking world. with all the shit you been soupting lately, you would think that you know everything, but clearly you do not. big deal, i have read more shit in my life, than you could ever hope to even begin to read.
    anyway, smart, intelligentence, and reading, are all different things, learn to equate between them all. and then shove your oh so smart ass bullshit up your ass. so sayith the NEW suckster.

  48. OB…in defense of the suckers ‘born every minute’ comment.
    Very few people get turned onto religion later in life. Usually its the opposite, & very young impressionable children are indoctrinated into the ‘faith’ by their family . Just as they themselves were. Where they are then terrified & threatened into submission by threats of punishment & evil so great… torture by CIA operatives & the sadists working for petty Dictator’s pale in comparrison ! I mean whipped, tortured by demons & burned for all eternity by the Devil !
    Wholey mindfuck batman… you don’t even have dying to look forward to, as an escape…because you’re already dead !

    But don’t forget…do as you’re told & God will love you ~;)
    Because God does love you…you just gotta do what you’re fucking told & any deviation or attempt to exercise your free will (which supposedly is god given) is the surest way to go to hell !
    L M F A O ….

  49. Hahaha. You just confirmed my suspicions LIFE SUCKS. There’s no way you’d have got so upset about that if I was wrong.

    I don’t remember bragging about how smart I am or about how much I’ve read, but apparently I’ve read at least more than you have about James Randi in particular. Anyone who’s taken the time to even so much as Google The Amazing Randi, knows that he’s not “right up there in a world of his own creation, right next to erik von danikan.” Since, you know, he’s one of the world’s leading skeptics, has been debunking quacks like Danikan since the seventies, and founded the JREF, a foundation that’s blatantly against everything Danikan says in his shitty books.

    Normally I wouldn’t have said anything, but it bothers me when people spew bullshit about a personal hero of mine without knowing shit all about them, no less accusing them of being exactly what they have spent the better part of their career fighting against.

    When you don’t bother to inform yourself about something before commenting on it and as a result say something really stupid, after someone correctly calls you out on your bullshit the best thing to do is quietly back down and/or admit your mistake. Not attack their “intelligentence” with a string of barely coherent sentences.

  50. I remember once hearing a quote: “The only problem with born again Christians is that they’re an even bigger pain the second time around.” Don’t remember who said it, but it makes me laugh!

    Nice seeing you again PG… and Ivan… I got the goods. ‘Ta

  51. His name is Screee (Braaaaa-vo how original) We may be part of an artistic collage at my local barStux this summer.
    How is Rosie doing. Rawk?

  52. Physics – let’s get physical ;P

    Well Snoop. I’ve given this a break for a few days, did some reading, hope you did too.

    I stand by my comment on quantum mechanics.

    The Large Hadron Collider’s detection system (part of it anyway) is basically a 5 story camera.
    It does not ‘see’ the actual particles after the collisions, it detects the path that the particles took. – ie, indirect observation. The LHC also is used to theorize on extra dimensions and dark mater, again indirect observation after the event.

    No, I’m not a physicist, but I do suspect I have a better grasp on relativity and quantum theory than you. Then again maybe not, I’m having quite a problem with the limits of relativistic speed and the interrelationship with qantum mechanics.

    Wiki isn’t bad for the basics, give it a peruse. Also there’s “How the Universe Works” a good show presented in lay-terms, ever hear of it?
    This is a good site for any of your questions, I go there quite a bit.
    http://www.physicsforums.com/index.php

    “Be careful not to argue from authority…” Is this the quote you meant?
    Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory. – Leonardo da Vinci

    I just loves irony 🙂

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