Why do men think it’s okay for them to publicly comment on my body? I could feel your eyes assess me up and down which is why I turned my back toward you. When you start commenting on my tattoos, telling me how foolish I look, how I’ll regret them et cetera, why do you think that’s okay? You fucking creep-stache, greying old shit. Fuck you both and your entitlement. My body is not yours to comment on. I am not public property. Leave all women alone and die quicker. My eyes had daggers and contempt in them for you, nothing less. —ellywithdaggersdrawn
This article appears in Sep 25 – Oct 1, 2014.
In twenty years, tattoo-removal will be the biggest business in Nova Scotia. I want in.
OH! Young women with neck tats… fucking dummies…
DOWN WITH MEN! DOWN WITH MEN! c’mon everybody, join in! chanting is the shit! DOWN WITH MEN! DOWN WITH MEN!
And you care so much about what these other people think…. why?
Are you even ever going to see them again?
Did you fire right back at them to show them how inappropriate they were behaving?
It’s a nice fantasy world you imagine but you’re forgetting, there’s jerks and morons everywhere…. and sane, courteous people just have to deal with em best they can.
So it’s not okay for men to comment. Is it okay for women to comment? If it’s not okay for men to comment about you and your tats, why is it okay for you to comment on men and their staches?
Oh, that dastardly “Male Gaze” — Why, I do declare, I may faint!
Perhaps Miss Precious-Princess-Upon-Whom-None-May-Look would feel more comfortable in a nice, all-covering burqua.
But then she wouldn’t be able to play that tired old “Hey look at me and my KA-RAAAY-ZEEEE appearance–Hey WTF are you looking at?” game.
Yawn.
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I don’t understand why so many dislikes on my ‘Down with men’ post. I guess feminists get pissy about everything.
are the westboro Baptist church members representative of all Christians? is isis a good face for islam? does the kkk speak for all southerners? do assholes in pickup trucks shout for all men ( or even for all men who drive pickups? ) then why is it ok to label anyone who gave you a dislike, hoist, a feminist? and that ‘they’ get pissy about everything.
I am a feminist. I ‘identify’ as a feminist. I have been a feminist since I was about 5. I raised my daughter as a feminist. you think I am humourless? that I hate all men BECAUSE they are men? that I never wore a push up bra or spike heels? Christ on a stick. don’t fall into that tar pit. there are nuts in every camp. I will NOT stop calling myself a feminist because some people have decided that all feminists are feminazis.
now to the bitch. I think op is creeped out by creepy old guys. young women usually don’t like old guys looking at them. they like young, hot guys looking at them. I doubt young guys would be happy about wrinkly old fat women sidling up and commenting on their physical attributes either. it’s creepy.
the wbc is not allowed in canada, so there’s that
I never asked you to stop calling yourself a feminist BDM. No need to be pissy.
Yeah, no doubt young people don’t like old people being weird and creepy toward them. It’s a little more accepted when it’s old ladies, though. It’s just more endearing and less pervy. However, buddy made comments on her tattoo’s. Doesn’t say in the bitch that he was beeing a creeper, though he may well have been. Is it rude to do what he did? Fuck yeah. Is it indicative of male privilge/entitlement. NOPE. Just as you said at the beginning of your rant BDM, he is responsible for his own actions. I am not.
And to answer your question about why it’s OK to label them feminists – it’s a free country and I enjoy freedom of speech and it is OK to voice whatever opinion I want. Same goes for them.
One final point – I used to work with a bunch of older women, they would always comment on how handsome I was, etc. It didn’t bother me, I am always happy to be called handsome. I even made it a point to dance with one of them, who was in her 60’s at the time, every time there was a staff function. I still have dinner with her sometimes. I suppose I should have seen it for what it was – female entitlement. Those women that I worked with clearly felt entitled to comment on my physical appearance and thought that they owned me.
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DOH! hoist, do you see the difference between your old dears, with whom you worked, socialized, chatted, joked around and some old geezer passerby who felt he had the right to ogle op and use his censure of her tattoos as an excuse for doing so? he was trying to ENGAGE with her.
something that all humans possess but too often ignore, is a sense of something amiss. especially women ignore that sense because we are taught to be ‘nice’. (no one likes a bitch, right? you’ll never get a man with that attitude…don’t frown, it makes you look ugly and on and on)
sometimes a guy will give you a glance and its nice, appreciative (not an invitation to have children with) just nice. a nice guy giving a look and moving on. and then there are the leering creeps. anyone watch mad men? peter Campbell is one of those leering creeps. just gives you that unclean feeling to have his eyes ooze over you.
there is a very good book about this (for humans, not just women) called The Gift Of Fear by Gavin de Becker.
So what you are saying is that women are weak minded and able to be taught how to behave and they have no control over this behaviour. Who teaches them this? Parents? Peers? Media? Society? Are we all responsible for these women’s inability to think for themselves? I mean, obviously if a person acts like a jerk to others it will greatly limit their chances of finding a relationship with them. I can honestly say I’ve never told a woman not to frown because she looks ugly. Some guy somewhere probably has but I am not responsible for his actions. Sorry, but I believe in EQUALITY.
Yes, I do see the difference between a stranger and a co-worker. Now lets reverse the roles. A female in a work place with a bunch of older males who comment on her appearance, and call her pretty vs a man having his tattoo’s negatively commented on by an older woman. Which one outrages you more?
you’re both so civilised, i appreciate that, mouse ears all round
how about you have a cup of STFU…get tats head to toe and expect to get looked at and even commented on. Perhaps you didn’t research anything…but then again, you got tats all over your body so your aren’t the brightest bulb, are you?
^^ why are people so vehement about tattoos? no one is holding you down to tattoo you so why does it matter so much to you if someone has a tattoo? or 2 or 24? sheesh. I don’t have any but from what I have seen of people who do, it isn’t usually for the sake of others’ enjoyment. it’s a personal thing. and none of anyone’s else’s beeswax.
hoist, are you just engaging in poking the dog? of course you know that all humans are influenced, conditioned, molded, swayed. from the time each of us is born. from many sources, and it sticks to a greater or lesser degree depending on a zillion things. even a kid raised in a skinner bubble is affected. we don’t create our own values out of thin air. some are fed to us and stay, and some are a direct opposition to what we were fed. but even in opposition stems from influence. you cannot push away from something unless it exists.
re the ‘ugly frown’ comment. it’s very unlikely that you telling a woman that would affect her future self esteem, because it’s already set, but her mother telling her that at 2, and every week thereafter while her ‘self’ is developing would.
a self analytical person acknowledges and recognizes as many influences as they can and then uses reason and ‘adult’ judgements to try to sift through what they want to live with and what they want to overcome. but how could anyone think they arrive a blank slate and grow in a vacuum? even the judgements we make are tinged by whatever environment we grew in. we see the world through the colour of the glasses that were glued to our heads as children, they never disappear but thinking people are aware of the colour of the glasses, and make adjustments for that. the unintelligent believe the world is their colour and their colour only. our level of intelligence is what we come into the world with – that’s ‘our own stuff’.
this has nothing to do with female weakness. it’s part of being human.
your work example is a bit skewed because you have different scenarios. the old men are complimenting the young woman. the old woman is chastising the young man. however, they share a commonality that disgusts me equally. old people thinking they have the right to blurt out anything they want to a young person because they are old and the young person has to take it. nowadays I suppose that young people are less likely to tolerate that, but in ‘my day’ you had to stand and take any crap they dished out. verbal or even physical. (hint – hint some of my influence that resides still even though I am officially an old person)
so that influence, along with my own intelligent sifting, makes me the kind of person who bristles (gets pissy perhaps?) with anyone telling anyone else what to do, think, act or behave. and because I am very well aware of the colour of my glasses, I have to be on constant watch that I do not knee-jerk dismiss any and all suggestions from others. I sometimes wonder if these particular colour glasses are typical to anarchists.
^^^ you’re missing the point. humans notice irregularities and extremes; like, say, a sleeve tattoo (esp on a female) in 20-30 yrs maybe we won’t.