Let’s get this out into the open shall we? I am fucking sick and tired of those “non-religious” drones that copout on religion whether it’s Christianity, Jewish, Muslim, etc. Agnostics, Wiccans, devil worshippers and the like are all worshipping a religion as well. You may not be worshipping in a world religion but yes you are worshipping. You have your own set of rules, holidays, mode of dress, etc. Even your own greetings! Just like standardized religions do. What is even more ironic is that most of you will go and celebrate Christmas with your family just to get the fucking presents or money! Well dear Wiccans, etc. You are religious. You do follow a set of rules and mode of worship so get the fuck over it! To the Agnostics, shit or get of the pot, which way are you going to follow? Agnostics are the worst copout, as they don’t know which mode of worship to follow! —Own up to it! Your religious for fuck sakes.
This article appears in Jan 6-12, 2011.
Guess what, bonehead – I’m a agnostic because I don’t believe in fucking Biblical fairy tales and an old guy perched on a cloud waiting to throw lighting bolts at me. It is not a cop-out – religion, IMHO, is for the feeble minded but I’m willing to live and let live. I’d bow down to a stalk of brocolli named Fred before I’d subscribe to any manmade bullshit beliefs. As it is, I won’t cross off the possibility of some higher power/force/whatever simply because the depth of man’s knowledge of the universe et al is still pretty limited.
The last time I checked, hypocrisy, tunnel vision, double standards,self-contradiction and compromises of logic are as much a charter guaranteed right of Freedom From Religion as they are of Freedom Of Religion.So as long as nobody flies a hijacked airliner into my place of employ for selling Twilight, The Da Vinci Code, or Salman Rushdie , knock yourselves out. It’s not like you’re in any danger of being turned into a newt OP. So ,at risk of being nailed to a tree – Live & Let Live.
I’m a proud worshipper of the FSM (flying spagetti monster).
WHich means …unless I’m eating pasta & saying something like , “honey nice job on the meatballs” or “wow this sauce has zing” there is no worship, there are no rules. There is no standard of dress & there are no places of worship, collection plates or a magical book/scroll with ‘ALL THE ANSWERS’.
SO dump your old stodgy religion, & their outdated controling ideology & come join the one with the new ideas, ideas like, not wanting your money.
Not telling you what to do or
how you should dress.
No terrorizing you with visions of hell fire, for all eternity, if you don’t DO As Commanded.
Then telling you after that last tid bit…just how much your loved.
No the FSM, just wants you to live & let live, to enjoy yourself, remember to eat well, & often with friends & family.
Never forget these words of the FSM… quote -“I don’t really need anything, after all, I created the Universe & put you here just to have something to watch…because afternoon TV in paradise has gotten so lame !”
TTFN, get your definitions right. You are an atheist, not an agnostic. The former does not believe in a deity, the latter doesn’t know or can’t make up their minds.
How much damage could a Cessna do Ivan?
Religion – def:
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
Moral def:
concerned with principles of right and wrong or conforming to standards of behavior and character based on those principles
Most people have MORALS instead of the belief in a supernatural power which created the universe.
You’re just fucking with semantics. if you don’t follow an organized religion, you may self classify as “not religious”, and what’s really bad about that? As long as you follow standard principles of good and bad. To each their own….
Oh – and fuck off about Christmas – it’s become VERY secular. You don’t have to be christian to celebrate. Last time I read the bible, there wasn’t a single mention of santa, reindeer, christmas trees at all. huh, go figure. And all the power to those who try to keep it religious.
Depends on how close to the propeller you are standing – Whirrrrrrrrrrrr – Thunk,Thunk Thunk – Glitch – and you are now Bolognese sauce for someone’s Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just don’t forget the Bruschetta….
“In the name of the Father, The Son and the Holy Toast – Mmmmmmm Sacrilicious.”
Long live Atheism! Although I believe in the order of the universe and Newton’s laws of motion….. can I still claim to have no religious affiliation? Or is evolutionism “following” something?
As far as Christmas is concerned, I have children and my parents are devout Christians. I also believe in keeping peace and allowing my children to experience a little magic….. I have stopped going to Christmas Eve church service and singing Christmas carols because I feel that is a little hypocritical whether I am trying to appease family or not…….. One thing I do believe in though is family, and I see Christmas as a great opportunity to spend time with them…. Besides, aside from its name, Christmas does not have much to do with Jesus anymore…. it’s easy for a non-believer to go through the holidays and have a little to do with the religious aspect as possible. So what if I have to sit though my father saying grace at Christmas dinner. If they want to believe that god “blessing” the food will make it any better so be it.
Now to comment on the bitch itself…. I am severely hoping you are NOT religious…… AND I am hoping that you do not celebrate Christmas in any way whatsoever. Because if not, you have thus become one of the people about whom you are bitching. Let’s hear your story.
Let’s say I believe in the possibility of a more intelligent life forms – whether they exist or not – who the fuck knows? I just know man hasn’t given me a satisfactory answer yet.
I worship this little fella:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/%…
I can’t say it gives me any more comfort about my place in this universe or makes me a better person but it’s the one belief system where the deity has MY hand up HIS ass. >; )
I agree with you TTFN. It’s all very possible, plausible, but I just can’t follow a set religious order. I think my beliefs are closer in line with Buddhists than Christians… so I choose to go about my daily life not really worrying about it. Oddly enough, I can be happy and fulfilled… unlike those crazy baptists I grew up being “if you don’t accept Jesus Christ as your personal saviour then you’re going straight to hell”.
Yeah, I met a few hardline Baptists out here in Little Arse Corner. You can recognize one quite easily – most of ’em look like they’ve been bomped between the eyes with a two by four. I was invited to one of their Thanksgiving events years ago and by the time I left, I was convinced these people were borderline mentally ill.
Hey Ralmn:
Q)Why don’t new Brunswick Baptists make love standing up?
A) Someone might see them….and think they were dancing.
That one always got me a friendly cuff about the ears from my Grammy. Screeeeee!
Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn
Bahahaha… I like that one Ivan. Don’t forget – no cards on Sundays, and NO clapping in church! But there’s an awful lot of hand shaking and amens.
Gah, left the church and hoped never to look back when I was 16 when one sermon condemned basically the majority of the planet to hell because we hadn’t sent enough missionaries out to “enlighten” the heathens. Ruin their culture was just a happy by-product, I guess.
Went back to church briefly because my stepson asked “what’s a bible?” when he was 7 – I figured a year or two of Sunday school wouldn’t kill him (and my tune-out skills were perfected), even if he just got the basics. David & Goliath is a kick ass story, after all.
lol Ivan, lol indeed!
i don’t know timothy, ttfn sounds like an agnostic to me. i worship the ocean-define that for me will ya dear^^is that klingon 195? sorry to hear about your troubles rosie, i’ll come cheer you up this week…screee
OP, course wiccans are religious….
your beloved xmas practices are based on THEIR holiday.
I agree; I wouldn’t take the day off to celebrate Yom Kippur so I have no fucking idea why people take 2 weeks every December to celebrate CHRIST-mas and then bitch when someone says “Merry Christmas” because it offends the open-minded, liberal interpretations of their capitalist holiday. People who don’t celebrate CHRIST-mas as the birth of their saviour should stay the fuck at work. Either that, or the government should shut the fuck up about making the holiday more ‘PC’ when a religious holy-day is the basis for their secular December vacations. Same goes for Easter.
I’m not sure that the language, but it’s the Cthulu chant. It translates to “In his house at R’lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.”
I have a rather strong belief in God, but anyone who thinks that God is infallible, or looks like this, http://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/20… – is a fool.
An interesting fact, the earth is realy 6,000 years old, it’s kinda like reverse Dog years. 1 God year = 750,000 Earth years. Check the math, it works.
http://www.zeitgeistthefilm.com
All paths in the search for truth should be respected, regardless of the window you choose to see the universe through.
Using science, religion or any mode of thought for control, money or personal gain aside from truth is not the same thing. Like a hammer it can be used to build a home or to bludgeon a face in. It is not the tool/technology/religion that decides how it’s used but the people that are using it.
The best Christians, scientists, etc. don’t go on boating why their ideas are better than anyone else’s; instead they build and live upon the world they love, that they are comfortable living in, rather than destroy those that they do not agree with.
Well said, aliar.
“You can choose a ready guide in some celstial voice. If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. You can choose from phantom fears and kindness that can kill. I will choose a path that’s clear, I will choose free will.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnxkfLe4G74
Nothing like starting the week out with a bang (or illumination, depending on your beliefs = ).
Religion and culture are so interwoven, at this time, to eliminate one from the other would be to eliminate both.
PANTHEISM……its a great philosphy
“Well said, aliar.” – Dito.
more lyrics.
I’m at war with the world and they
Try to pull me into the dark
I struggle to find my faith
As I’m slippin’ from your arms
It’s getting harder to stay awake
And my strength is fading fast
You breathe into me at last
I’m awake I’m alive
Now I know what I believe inside
Now it’s my time
I’ll do what I want ’cause this is my life
here (right here), right now (right now)
I’ll stand my ground and never back down
I know what I believe inside
I’m awake and I’m alive
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OP – STFU. What anybody else is into is nobody’s business but their own. For the record, all fanatical religion followers are idiots.
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Lol at the graph Walter. Joke, right?
OP your just as covoluted as any other who is willing to belive that a man made book or doctorine contains the secrets of the universe.
Yay! I’m totally exempt from this bitch because I’m atheist. Score.
Except oops, I celebrate Christmas. And I say “Merry Christmas!” to people all the time during the holidays. Why don’t I scrap it all together since I’m atheist? Because it’s evolving into secular holiday. Just like thousands of years ago it evolved from the celebration of the winter solstice into the celebration of the birth of Jesus because some Christian dudes were like, “hey lets say Jesus was born on the solstice, even though he wasn’t because then maybe these pagan heathens will be more willing to accept our faith.” Just like the Christians perverted their own holiday from it’s true meaning into something that suited their own goals (for religious expansion), I’m going to further pervert this holiday to suit MY needs. Make no mistake it’s been continually changed over the years, adopting many different traditions from many different cultures. This secular Christmas that I celebrate is just another extension or branch of that.
For me Christmas is about spending time with family, watching the people I love open a gift I put a lot of thought into, drinking and generally being merry, eating home a cooked meal with my family, snow-angles, watching my cat get confused by tinsel… all of that non-religious good stuff.
On top of that I also celebrate the winter solstice as well as festivus as an astronomy and Seinfeld fan. Do I actually worship the sun? No. Do I actually attempt to wrestle the head of the household to the ground? No, we have arm-wrestling instead because a nuch of drunk people full out wrestling is a bad idea. See, even festivus is subject to change.
So fuck all you assholes who call me a hypocrite for celebrating Christmas. If you’re not smart enough to look at the history of the holiday and realize that what atheists and agnostics are doing is exactly what Christians have been doing for thousands of years, then just shut the fuck up already.
Fuck yea to spending time with family; regardless of the name of the tradition.
Points to snoop.
wait… hold on a sec….
god years?
I think we’re stretching now…
I can claim one zZz year = 2 god years…
the earth is really only 3000 years old, I just like god to think it’s older.
So one god year equals 750,000 earth years…… so that means that he actually created the world in 12,330 years and then rested for the next 2055 years? He’s not the miracle man all believed him to be then, wha?? Six days my ass…….
Give me 12,000 years and I can put together enough crap to make a planet too!
New York built a whole island out of garbage pretty quickly.
OP, the whole entire world is based on hypocrisy. Deal with it.
OP,
I know you are but what am I?
hey, i’m a satanist and never happier. you can have all your foolish bullshit and dogma.
and by the way, we accept sacrifices at all hours, come and join us.
I can’t join L.S.
Yeah , I’m one of the few exempt people…no hell for me.
Seems a while back a few Capers, got sent to hell, within a week, there was a work stoppage & talk of a strike !
Fine, OP, if you have decided for me that I’m religious I have decided for you that you are a moron…dooo youuu want meee tooo talk slowwwerrrr????
Some people aren’t religious. I’m not and frankly it’s none of your business. Why does it bother you that I don’t believe in a god…any god?
I don’t call myself by any little group names like christian or wiccan or agnostic I just say I’m not religious. I don’t pray, worship, confess or repent and I spent Christmas on a beach with my boyfriend.
Why are you so obesessed with plugging everyone into a little group OP? If I’m not christian I’m a devil worshipper…is that how you think this works? That’s like saying that if someone isn’t vegetarian they obviously are cannibals.
Seriously, I’ve been reading the bitches today and it’s like people are really stretching to find something to bitch about.
the religious cauldron always boils dv. very well said, i don’t like being plugged in either
zZz, jonoman. Remember, time exists as a result of multiple dimensions, is non-linear, and absolutely subjective.
time exists only as a reality. our big brains do the rest
I can tell you one thing right now ,nobody ever confused me with someone who has one gram of religious girth. The very thought of being herded into a temple, or church every Sunday to pay homage to the only perfect being for justification of my own piety makes me want to punch a wall.
A history lesson for ya:
My father: a minister.
My step mother the MS patient: went to Switzerland to commit suicide.
The church:” Not in our cemetary you don’t “
I was never religious before this, but now I am vehemently opposed to it.
I only worship one person; Britney Spears. The end.
Bugger off op.
My atheist uniform is a neon pink tracksuit and a pirate hat. Oh, and as for the “celebrating” Christmas controversy, you can eat a fat dick OP. I have no problem having dinner, spending time, drinking and exchanging presents with my family and friends even though I don’t root for Team Jesus. I suppose I should be a miserable atheist and burn bibles by myself in a field instead of being friendly to religious people, because that’s very productive and reasonable, right?
I don’t really care if people are religious as long as they don’t care that I’m non-religious.
I’m with sodey and a few others on this… stat hols are stat hols. Why aren’t ya bitchin’ about Easter and stuff? I’ll take the days off when I get ’em. And it doesn’t make me a hypocrite… it makes me… uh… Canadian????
God, OP. Who cares what people want or don’t want to worship. It’s a free country (thank god!… oops… I’m not religious, I can’t believe I just said that!).
Seriously. Mind your own damn business.
Help me Jebus!
God….mega lol
@ Ivan: Funny Baptist joke. I have a another:…How many Baptists does it take to change a light-bulb? Fifteen. One to change the bulb, and 14 to form the comittee to decide who brings the potato salad and fried chicken! Heh. (It riffs on our tendency to take up any excuse to have food–and the fellowship that goes with it.)
@ General: I am Christian (Baptist) and don’t get why people get so pissed off at my kind. I mean, is it really necessary to be so…snarky? I’d also point out that Christians have done SOME good here and there. Finally, I am one, as indicated above, and I really try not to be a dick about it. Is that so bad or hard to do? Seriously. <
Hugo, yes… 3 dimensions in fact.
I’m absolutely sure there are more, we’re just to homo-habillistic to render them.
And getting back to the original topic… if time is non-linear, then God doesn’t exist
so you’ve expressed which side of the fence you prefer a picnic on.
The religious types are those that prefer to believe time is a linear system with an infinite number of variables…
subtle, yet seemingly important distinction.
Actually there are considered to be four dimensions….. Linear, Linear branches, Volume and Time. Time is the so-called fourth dimension and there is the possibility of up to 11 that science is “aware of”…… it’s pretty fascinating when you start looking into string theory and M-theory…. although the extra dimensions are considered spatial and really don’t relate to life on EARTH as we perceive it.
ok… I was considering spacial dimensions… but ok.
I’ll subscribe.
There is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timelss as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. Now if only I could remember what we call it….>: (
http://carrielouise.files.wordpress.com/20…
ah yes… that’s the dimension where rosie o’donnell, oprah, and susan boyle are not only skinny, but actually attractive.
Bear in mind, very few have enough imagination to even conceive such a place.
I’ve heard Stephen Hawking gets a brain cramp if he spends more than 3.14159 minutes there.
I’m sure Obama would do/has done Oprah.
And Stephen Hawking has likely already defined all eleven dimensions and is merely keeping it to himself as some sort of sick joke. I’ve heard he DOES have quite the sense of humor.
O’Donnell, Oprah, Su-Bo…
“IT’S A COOKBOOK!”
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JWRaqDnEIzk/R-CH…
“if time is non-linear, then God doesn’t exist” care to exlain that zZz?