Teach children how to play together.
So, we are at a birthday party. My kid takes your kid’s toy. I say, “No. You cannot take the toy.” (My next move would have been to help your kid and my kid share the toy somehow, or some distraction.) You say it is okay and take the toy from your kid’s hand to my kid’s hand. BIG mistake!!!! Dude! You undermined me. The rules are no taking toys. So, my kid watches as you TAKE OVER the whole scene and give him the toy he just took from your kid. You just gave my kid all the power. WOW. I bet your kid feels great. Hmmm. SO then, we all try to let the kids play and my kid keeps taking the toy from your kid. Whatever the toy is. Suddenly your ridiculous wimpy politeness turns into frustration and muttering that if he does not stop you will have to leave. So, you all leave. You, your wife, and your kid. Wow. Wimp. Your son is going to be an easy target if you do not teach him to stand up to two year olds. WHEN I SAY TO MY OWN KID HE HAS TO WAIT OR NOT TOUCH OR GIVE BACK OR whatever! DO NOT try to make it polite. They are baby kids. You are the Dad. Idiot. Oh and to the lady in the library with her baby sling and her dancing princess. If your daughter is being pushed by a two year old and she is 5 you had better teach her to tell the two year old to leave her alone or teach her how to teach the two year old to play. The two year old was just trying to get the dancing princess to play with him and not around him. Watching the prancing princess curl up in your lap and act hurt and scared by my wobbling two year old just made the behaviour grow. Maybe if you had of asserted yourself, your daughter would have changed her prancing around to actual playing with my son. OH but you know all about boys since you have nephews. Whatever, get out of the library if you can not play with a two year old. IN fact, good luck with motherhood.
Oh yeah. I forgot about the parents at baby soccer. When my son gets the ball from your kid that means he is playing the game of soccer. Acting all put out because he keeps taking the ball from your kid is hilarious. Teach your kid to get the ball back. That is the game you signed up for IDIOT! —Do Not Raise Whiners Please
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Here, here! I stopped taking my kids to the library programs downtown because of that. Kids learn from conflict. It doesn’t help when parents impose adult-social contract-polite bullshit on kids…they don’t get it and learn nothing.
But look on the bright side OP.. Now you can sit back and reflect happily on how much better your family is than everyone else instead of bitching because other parenting styles have made the job of educating your child a little more challenging.
Crisitunity!
On another note i wonder if any of these other (admittedly NOT perfect) parents are raising control freaks.
Furious i don’t disagree that the way he/she wants the kids to learn is GOOD and RIGHT. And that pushing obsessive politeness and non-conflict on children will fuck them up.
But.. you know.. it takes all kinds to make a world. At least the world i want to live in..
Oh my fucking god……..you don’t even realize what a bully you are! Thankfully the only control you have in the world is over a 2 year-old……..when he turns 12 he is going to kick your ass good!
Koda.. yeah. That’s what it is.. I don’t disagree with this parent’s philosophy. You owe it to your kids to teach them how to face life. I disagree with this parent’s need to control everything.
My parents were control freaks. If you ever met me you’d see what THAT shit and terror is capable of producing.
Wait until they learn you can start fires with a a pair of glasses.
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poor piggy http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ukz-o6gFCnM/SaiI…
Because of how the post is written the OP reminds me of an older/slightly more mature version of this person:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP-Vace_yDM
kids are kids o.p., and no matter how many good values you try to teach them, reed will still come out somewhere. my little bugaboo is a prime example of that. we try to teach her right and wrong, and she gets it. but the next time, it goes from the good, to the bad.we are trying to get her to see that there are things called consequences in everyday life, and she has to decide, whether they are good or bad.
she is smart for 4, and she is getting her street sense going more all the time.she is also getting the stink eye from grampy, if she misbehaves, or starts to act inapproprietly. she knows how far she can push, before she gets shot down.most kids today, do not even have half of this knowledge. they are either let out of home too early, or kept under guad til they are older. and some of the older ones, are the trouble makers. not saying all, but look at the books on this.on the other and, the younger ones, are not being nurtured as they shouldbe, and that is a shame.
now myself, i was a hooligan, and learned my lesson, early in life. but i had to face up to my own short comings,not expect a slap on the wrist, to do again next day, for another tap, later on.are kids today wips, sometimes yes, but most are the worst spawn, ever to walk the streets, thanks to not parental skills or lack of caring.these are the ones, to watch for. no, they are not wimps, but little thugs, that will grow into bigger, older thugs, and begat some more of the same. where does it ever stop?
that should be greed will still come out.sorry.
Kids are kids.
You can’t expect them to remember to act in a way a rational adult would.
THey have their moments & if you constantly punish them for the little things, what do you do when something serious happens…knock them out ?
Also, perhaps the other parent is at a stage with their child, where they are being taught to share.
Your attitude seems to be your way is the only ‘right way’
I respectfully beg to differ.
(I also think your being a bit of an ass !)
None of the situations are perfect. The bitch is not about being perfect. It is about some wimp idiots I wanted to bitch about. OP
I had to read this dross 3 times to actually understand that; the kids are acting like kids but the adults are stupid, control freak weenies.
exactly
Great parenting, OB! That was a great move to correct your kid.
The other people’s kid is probably going to be a gay wimp like sebastian and Chaz Bono.
Hey guys,
I need your help.
Who posted that link a while back to those HR complaints about the guy who kept pulling office pranks?
Remember the one? I can’t find it anywhere. Help please..
hey gang, i see halifax got the lion’s share of that big deal defense contract. 25 billion bucks will be coming to town, but over a 30 year time frame.still good news tho.
sounds like your kid causes problems wherever you go….
It was our lovely and fragrant Depeche Mel, Tommy
http://www.27bslash6.com/f26a.html
And the bloke’s name is David Thorn.
Yup, that is fan-freakin-tastic news Lifer.
Sorry, “THORNE”
I can relate, OP! As someone whose toddler has always been very passive when it comes to other kids grabbing toys from him, I’m trying to teach him how to be assertive, but without being a bully. The few times he’s tried to grab other children’s toys out of their hands, I am firm and consistent about not allowing him to do that. It amazes me, the sense of entitlement some parents seem to instill in their children, which brings me to my own bitch….
I know this woman with a two year old boy. She is very nice, and if it weren’t for the way she deals with her son, I wouldnt be detaching from the friendship. We met in July and spent alot of time together over the summer with the kids playing. I’m starting to cut it way back now, because I’ve come to see her little boy as totally fucking unbearable and her mothering skills as idiotic. The few times he’s come here, he’s done nothing but scream like a monkey being tortured and hurl objects (including my table lamp, which he broke) across the room. Before I realized how bad it was, I figured it was because the child is frustrated at not being able to talk yet. I’m now quickly realizing it’s alot more than that. She is so inconsistent; to the point of allowing him to hit and bite her. She recently showed me bruises running the length of both arms. She just allows it to happen without any repurcussions to him. The other day she was explaining to me how he’s got 2 teeth coming through, and that in his pain, he’s also been hitting her. Funny thing, as she was telling me this, the kid came up and wolloped her in the face and she didnt react, telling me she ‘can’t be bothered anymore”!! I replied by telling her there is no way I would allow my little boy hit or bite me in any circumstance; I don’t hit him and he sure as hell isn’t going to do it to me. She just shrugged. What else can I say??? She is ruining him; he has ZEERO boundaries. I’m not saying I never make parenting mistakes, but this boy is over the top. He needs a muzzle.
I genuinely like this woman for other reasons, but I no longer want this kid around mine. what do I say to her?? Do I say anything???
Z – Tell her your problem or tell her to fuck off – You Decide!
As far as the Op goes, you’re beteween a rock and a hard place and as a parent there is no middle ground. You will be vilified no matter which way you turn.
” It amazes me, the sense of entitlement some parents seem to instill in their children, which brings me to my own bitch….”
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Your kids will steal diapers when they’re parents too.
For the love of FUCK, Z, it’s A LOT, not ‘alot.’
IT’S TWO WORDS NOT ONE, OK? *knocks on z’s head* HELLO ANYONE IN THERE?
Read that first sentence as many times as necessary to get that through your thick skull.
And A LOT of people post on blackberries and have no problems spelling A LOT.
I sure hope you’re not teaching your kid how to spell… or what the word ‘hypocrite’ means….
heh.
Oh, look, Fatty is back! And still stuck on a comment I wrote over a year ago.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
She can afford a BlackBerry but not diapers, PK?
Nah, she just thinks the rules (and laws) don’t apply to her.
Awwww, Pk! You got me feeling so baaaad about myself!!! I’m crying here and feeling so stupid for spelling ‘a lot” as alot! Why you be so mean????
Sorry to get your (I’m guessing super-sized) panties in a ruffle. Although I am aware it is an error I make ALOT here, it’s more comfy for me to spell it that way; in fact, I like ALOT (convulsing yet?). See? So clearly, I don’t care ALOT. Besides….I’m not paid to spell, I’m paid to draw, loser. 😉
If you get paid you can afford to buy shit instead of stealin’ den!
fuck guys, come on now. remember the words of a great man , a long time ago.LET YOU WITH A SIN, THROW THE FIRST BRICK, or some shit like that. is 0kay z, i still likes you. fuck, people bug the shit out of me, for the way i write too, know what, i don’t give a fuck either. i know great math teachers who can’t spell for shit, and also science and pol-science profs as well. so no one, be giving me or my z friend grief.or i’ll have to go all apeshit over you, and the price of bananas just went up.
let you without sin, cast the first stone, it should have read.
Well if you feel like making yourself look like an illiterate idiot, z, go right ahead. Just makes me look better in the end.
And sucks, my issue was never that she stole something by accident — we’ve all done it at one point or another — it was her entitled attitude
that it wasn’t theft because loblaws has butt tons
of money. I would’ve dropped it if she would’ve
admitted she stole something that wasn’t hers
(because she didn’t pay for it). It’s her holier than
thou attitude that bugs me. And the ‘if you dont
have the same opinion as i do OMG YOU’RE AN
AWFUL PERSON!” attitude she so clearly reeks of.
She’s a fucking hypocrite/ idiot and if you want to bitch me out for pointing that out, well oh fucking well.
And tubz — remind me to tell d-hizzle’s ‘met’ story sometime… Seems fitting in this case 😉
Sounds like a lot of HRM’s parents are raising a bunch of spineless pussies. Teach the kid to punch. If in Spryfield, teach them to shoot. If in Sackville, a lesson in how to make a shitty car even shittier but to think that it’s hot shit.
Go fuck yourself coast
Well. I don’t think any of us expected that.
Care to amplify, Mr. Harper/Devil.
My latte is cold and tastes like crap.
Dunder-Mifflin, with it’s characteristic wisdom is making us do an audited inventory this week, which is ,of course, our busiest time of the year as far as incoming product and time sensitive promotions. So yeah, my life sucks about a 1000 miles of dead asshole right now. I don’t need some Chomsky groupie, who thinks shitting in Mayor Kelly’s tulip bed is a revolutionary act, to lecture me about corporate stupidity
How goes the new job PK?
This is my favorite Z comment:
“You talk about bikes as if they were wheelchairs. It’s no worse to steal a bike than it is to steal a wallet, a jacket, a car, or whatever else. It IS, however, a new kind of low to steal a wheelchair. I find alot of you cyclists whine as if you WERE driving wheelchairs, which makes me sick.
Posted by Z on October 13, 2011 at 2:57 PM”
Where are these rules of theft you are referring from?
“Teach the kid to punch.”
So says the limp-wristed, tutu-wearing fruit-puncher! LOL!
does your latte “taste nutty” ?
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I think A lot of HRM parents do a great job, a lot of the time. I just would not want to be in a real crisis with these three parents I met ,briefly. Maybe they are not Idiots if I can humble my own bitch? WImps? Yes. I think I want to spell it with an H now. WHimps. Anyways, they are far and few between. thank GOODNESS!
@Z I wouldnt whimp out and bail on your friend and her clobbering teething kid. Stop talking so much when you come to visit about things that the kids do not want to hear off the top of a visit. Start with playing and save the adult chatter for the middle part of the visit. She sounds distracted by your visit actually. It is embarassing when it happens for her too. She sounds like she does not know you well and is just talking out of her ass and those are her thoughts on what to do while she is in the moment of being clobbered in front of you while giving YOU the attention her son is clobbering her for. Do you just sit there and talk to her while she fields the boisterous child? serves you coffee AND listens and responds to you? That is a perfect recipe for ferret on coffee behaviour in a human kid.Play with the kids together ,the two of you and see if that does not stop the effective distracting clobbering? You can get back to your socializing once they trust you are really having a playdate for them and not just you two. It also sounds like your child is not old enough to act like a ferret on coffee,yet. When that happens you will want friends like her around who will hopefully understand and work through it with you and not bail at the slightest moment of frustration, awkwardness or tension. Do not be a WHIMP!:) Try talking about the whole thing on the telephone without the kids. She probably is really hoping the hitting will just go away and cares deeply. A lot of kids hit and kick and bite and grab. If someone says they do not, they are LYING whimps.
Obviously, Mel, Z has no sense of boundaries as far as other people’s possessions are concerned.
Betcha the entire contents of my bank account that if someone were to steal a fricking PEN off her desk she’d scream bloody murder.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg! She rails on others for talking about personal experiences, yet all she does is talk about three things: her kid, her crotch issues and getting knocked up. And if you knock any of that shit in the grand scheme of things, you’re a narcissist!
SO, I guess we really DO have our own little SET in-house!
No one invite her to a summit, though — she’d probably steal the food right off your plate and claim it’s her right.
Fucking clepto.
I’m sure she’s a dine-n-dasher no doubt! Those evil restaurants making a fortune by using cheap, bulk food and jacking up the prices deserve it! And if they don’t have a suitable baby chair/high chair? Foooogetaboutit, she has every right to steal from them.
Oh, I less than 3 the two of you >: )
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Holy fuck — Z is TOTALLY survivor.
It makes perfect sense.
I mean…… I know of a few people who have multiple accounts on here…. so it’s totally a possibility.
Think about it guys:
huge sense of entitlement = check
steals stuff and claims it’s not stealing = check
holier than thou twat = check
curious. very very curious.
And dey both hood rats!
Oh, and Ivan — job is going… well let’s just say I have lots to share next summit! 😛
Depeche Mel, I never said that stealing a bike or wallet wasn’t low, but for me, stealing something like a wheelchair is an even lower sink. Then again, maybe it’s just me who thinks that hurting someone who is already more vulnerable than the average joe is a worse act of cruetly. It must be nice to be so morally absolute yourself, though! Keeps life simple, huh!!
PK, you fucking self-adoring idiot; when I wrote that comment about accidentally walking out of the grocery store with a package of diapers that was unpaid for, I was confessing a MISTAKE I made to a forum that I have been contributing to since 2007 and felt rather comfortable and friendly with. I made a tongue-in-cheek confession here to rationalizing my way out of the guilt I felt at the time. When I brought up the the price of diapers and how bad I felt for poor, struggling parents, this was what is called a SIDENOTE to my comment, and an attempt for some discussion. You, of COURSE, failed to see what I meant and jumped down my throat; typing with your chubby little fingers of moral perfection that I was “no better than a common thief.” You attacked me exactly as you did to that recent poster who complained about her fertility appointment. I’m quite sure there were several posters who told you how unreasonable you were there, as there were several who also jumped to my defense at the time.
It’s no wonder you spend so much time pouring out your life story here, PK; if your mouth yammers half as much as your fingers do, you must have “ALOT” of trouble getting people to listen to you in real life.
Hey Ricaseeka, thanks for the advice! I think you’re probably right that we’re a bit of a distraction to my friend; I think it can be harder to discipline your children around people you’re just getting to know, as well. She is a very giving person and endlessly patient…which is such a nice trait, but in the case of her son, doesnt seem to be working out that well. When I’m over, I definetly try and help her out; and I keep an eye on the kids while she’s doing coffee. We always sit in whatever room the kids are playing in, but even still, it feels like it’s only ever me who is at the ready if one of them does something he shouldn’t. The times I had her here, she didn’t watch her little guy at all, despite him trying to rock our flat screen off it’s table the first time he was here, and then throwing my lamp off the table the last time. Today we were at a drop in center together and her little guy went after several other toddlers to hit them, including a 10 month old girl. I know all toddlers try these things out, but what gets me is that she doesn’t react at all. I don’t feel it’s my place to push parenting advice on her, and she’s a person who is easily hurt. All I said was “You shouldn’t let him hit other kids.”
It’s really akward.
“Oh, and Ivan — job is going… well let’s just say I have lots to share next summit! :P”
-I’ll just betcha do!!! When do you NOT “have lots to share”???????
Thanks Ivan! You are the man.
Anytime, Brah >: )
To me, stealing items for babies seems low. You know why the prices of diapers, formula, etc are so high? Because people fucking steal them. The ‘big bad’ corporation won’t really be affected by such antics while other “struggling” customers will end up paying more to make up for the losses, employee’s hours will get cut, wages frozen, nobody new gets hired, etc, etc. If you can’t afford diapers, you need to give your child away. There are too many selfish bitches out there who would rather live in poverty and feed their kid Kraft Dinner and Coke every day than let their child have a better life and a fair chance at not becoming a malnourished piece of shit, by giving it away.
*sigh* I’ll explain this one more time then I’m done — because trying to get an idiot to understand anything more than “duuuuurrrrrr” is pointless. But i”ll give it one more shot:
Yes, it was a mistake — I and everyone else here knows you didn’t intend to steal anything, but stealing is what you did. When you steal something, unintentional or not, you are, by definition of the law: a thief. And, by not correcting your mistake and rationalizing it to say “ah well, loblaws has enough money” means you confirm the fact that you are a thief. I don’t know why that’s so hard to own up to.
You had every opportunity to pay for it next time you were in (your excuse was that you had your kid and wasn’t walking back or something), but decided “ah well” and felt entitled enough to “donate it” like that makes you any better. Who the fuck do you think you are? What right do you have to decide what anyone does with their property?
In any event, I’m done with this. If you don’t ‘get it’ by now, you never will. You can’t spell, you feel you’re entitled to steal shit and somehow not be branded a thief, you have no sense of logic and have no understanding of such and your best argument is “I’m rubber and you’re glue” i.e.: you are an idiot — stupid — dumb — dense — and there’s no point arguing with such.
Perhaps you should just go back to what you’re good at instead of trying to argue against logic. Tell us some more about your crotch issues! I know, I, for one, am riveted by that shit. (PS: you can always look up the big words in this post by visiting dictionary.com).
I really AM beginning to believe you and survivor are one and the same — add ‘no concept of logic’ to the list I previously posted. Eerie, isn’t it, guys?
And for the record, Zurvivor – I am only to happy to listen to what PK has to share because she is both intelligent and funny and has an illuminating smile.
….and her zoomers. Definitely her zoomers. >; )
OOH! EEH! OOH AH AH – GIGGITY GGGITY GOO!
*blush* You’re not so bad yourself, Ivanski!
I have lots to share, but I really need to keep my locale of employment on the downlow on the boards, so I’ll share with yas at the summit instead on here (trust me, I’m itching to share some bitch-worthy stuffz). Maybe a November summit? Donarious just got his masters, so that’s a good excuse to summit-ize and have the bugger actually attend. I haven’t seen that POS (lol) tubzo since July! Wheelie’s seen him more since than I have ffs!
Trust me, if I felt comfortable, I’d blow mah cover because there’s one bitcher who I’d love a work visit from who’s in the locale! 🙂
Also, LOL @ ‘zurvivor’
I’m stealing that one!
PS: I had a dream last night and wheelie was in it!
rosie just sent me a picture of the wee beastie, not quite so wee anymore^^
A November summit sounds good so long as it’s not on the 5th, 12th or 13th.
“Crotch” issues??? When have I ever spoken about crotch issues??? I spoke about the surgery I had to remove a cyst off my ovary. Are my ovaries in my “crotch”?
As for being Survivor, no- sorry to dissapoint.. as I told you before, the only other name I used here was NMH, until I changed it to Z. I wouldn’t bother creating multiple identities here; the site just isn’t. THAT interesting to warrant multiple identities.
I might organize two — one on a sunday and one on a saturday so we can get everyone together at some point… though, how many of us have the 11th off and would be unopposed to something that day?
Sure thing, zurvivor!
The way many of you regulars go on, chatting about your kitties, brunches and such, is pathetic. Save for people like Lifesucks and a few others, you’ve ruined this forum. It’s not half what it used to be 4 or 5 years ago. It’s silly now. I’m done.
my cats are dead
A post Remembrance Day Service Brunch would be fine by me. I’m also off one day before and the Monday and Tuesday after, so if anyone is working in Downtown Hali and wants to do coffee of lunch – I’m jiggy wit dat.
My kitty has ASS-mar, just like Piggy in “Lord of the Flies”
I’m off on the 11th but will be busy. 🙁
I may or may not have plans for the 11th. Hopefully I’ll know more later tonight.
“I’m done.” ~Zurvivor
See ya!
I figured you’d be busy, vastie, but you can still come to one of our sunday summits!
I’m thinking of something after the memorial at 11/12… maybe something in the evening or late afternoon. I’d like to see Tubz and RC come! That’d be pretty sweet.
I’m just trying to come up with a time we could get some people involved that haven’t had the chance. And it’s on a Friday, so bonus!
If I do come, it’ll probably be +2.