I frequent a particular chain coffee shop on SGR. Typically it’s a pleasant place to have a coffee, snack, read, people-watch, browse the web, do some homework, or relax. Most people respect that it’s a coffee shop so the volume of people talking is very reasonable and it’s enjoyable. The other day your group of six decibal-ignorant extremists came in, grabbed 3 tables, took chairs from other tables (you didn’t even ask the people sitting there if anyone was using the chair), combined them all together, and then up went your group’s volume… louder and louder in arabic until everyone in the place is giving you looks of disapproval. Yet you ignore them. When I politely interrupted your highly self righteous conversation and asked if you could speak a little quieter, you all looked at me, didn’t say a word, and then turned back to each other talking louder than before. I assume it was because I’m a young woman… is that it? So another few minutes pass, you’re all still noisy, so I ask the staff if the manager or supervisor could speak to your group and handle the situation. When she came over and asked if you’d like to order some coffee, you responded “No” and then attempted to ignore her. Thankfully she stood her ground and said that the use of the coffee shop is for the patrons to enjoy their coffee, etc. and that if your group did not plan on ordering, maybe you should be on your way. While your other five began arguing at her in arabic, you said “We come to Canada, we pay for university, we put money in your economy, and this is how you treat us. We’re not terrorists.” That almost made my eyes pop out of my head because I didn’t hear her say anything about terrorists. She only suggested you order something or leave. You group appeared very enraged and I wasn’t sure if you were going to hit her, or go into a violent rampage. Thankfully you chose to leave shouting christ only knows what in arabic. I hope to never see you there again. You chose to come to Canada for a university education, possibly to enjoy Canada and what we have to offer, but obviously you think you’re still back home. —Sip Sip Sip
This article appears in Sep 22-28, 2011.


o.p., arabic or not, the tone was too loud. you should have left it at that. you’ll get flamed for it, trust me. but yes, arabic is a loud language, why, i have no idea. same as some chinese dialects, the louder they are, they farther in coast they live. maybe it has to do with all the yelling and screaming, of their people, running for cover from the u.s.’s shelling.
who really knows. but you have to cut them a bit of slack, maybe they were first year kids.or, you could have asked them to tone it down politely. i find arabic or islamic people are fairly dcent and will do as asked, with no bullshit.not all, but most.
OP to them they’re not loud at all. It’s all the same, Russians, Germans and the like all tend to speak a bit louder than English speakers do.
… and no, they don’t want to enjoy Canada. The same way I don’t want to enjoy WalMart. I go there I pay and I leave.
http://failatfailing.com/upload/17664-3108…
I doubt if they did this ” shouting christ only knows what in arabic” they don’t believe in Christ.
Obviously reverse discrimination – are we allowed to use that, I thought it was exclusive to a certain other well known group in HRM?
They’re going to find themselves banned from a good number of places here. “We put money in your economy”?? Really?? They’re STUDENTS. People with jobs put money in the economy.
Christ almighty..
LIFE SUCKS, who cares where they were from or that MOST arabic/islamic students are sweet as sugar (which they are) these fucktards were clearly entitled, spoiled and irritating.
And shouldn’t be out in public until they learn how to behave in public.
I recently moved downtown after a long hiatus outside town. And the number of newcomers who think they own the city is starting to piss me off. Nobody gives a shit where you come from or what you’re studying or who your parents are. You’re the outsider. Show some fucking dignity in a city kind enough to put up with you.
i mean, two seconds into being asked to quiet down the pull the terrorism card? Dignity fail.
Are you sure they weren’t just from Ontario? That’s usually their schtick. I’ve given a few knuckle sandwiches to Torontonians claiming to ‘rule this backwater fishing town’
… oh I’m sureeeee you did … … … … … … … … … …
i get you i-k, bt still, you have to give and take a bit,and i guess this was a give situation. they gave out loudness, o.p. gave out advice, and manager. they gave out shit. nobody won. call it a day and learn from it. so, how is i-k these days. like living in town, i think it sucks, really.
Meh ….third world problems….
Just another jackass not respecting local customs. It happens everywhere. But if a Canadian did this in their country I think the consequences would be far worse.
Ivan, not real.
Nothing bugs the shit outta me more then when people try and throw race in your face when it was never part of the conversation.
ANY group of people that are loud enough to disrupt other paying customers should be asked to be quite or leave. People should use their inside voices or whisper if they are loud talkers.
I believe there are some asian dialects where the words do no have the same meaning if they are not shouted.
i sometimes speak very loudly and wave my hands around. my family is used to it but still tell me to keep it down, they don’t want people glaring at the loud table
OMG, I just remembered the multiple people we drove away from our vicintity at the last Round Table. Anybody seen my High Horse?; he bolted when I fell off.
*Hee Haw*
i have that affect everywhere i go, i’m just very enthusiastic
SOBova swears that it was me who drove 1 couple away – all by my lonesome. >: (
or you could be losing your hearing… as is the frequent case with….
a plethora of real world experience.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_hL8_zILUCGk/TPRo…
i think it was ttfn and me cackling, plus i kept smacking wp^^
He smells purty…
Throwing the race card was a low blow. They were just pissed off cause they were not allowed to socialize for free at the coffee shop.
Oh and someone finally told them what they needed to do to stay in the coffee shop or they had to leave.
I find many will be too loud for public places.
Its annoying yes , and they usually get mad about it when told to be quiet. Oh well for them cause its called having respect for everyone else around them.
those would be the heightened pheromones combined with axe body spray and fresh smelling guitar strings….
I’m guessing.
All I know is, if we could synthesize and mass produce his enchanting musk, we’d make a fortune.
it’s his giant brain and other stuff^^
I’m with I_K on this one. LS is just mad cuz he got flamed about his burqa bitch.
Now I’m REALLY upset I missed the last Round Table… 🙁
For the record I have nothing have nothing against Arabs or Muslims, as a matter of fact some of the kindest, most honest, generous and accepting people I’ve ever met were Arabs or Muslims.
I’ve been a stranger in a foreign country and it can be difficult and stigmatizing, I try to cut foreigners some slack, many of them come from countries that are much more densely populated than Canada so they can be loud and what we would consider rude. It takes time to adjust to our social norms.
However when someone asks them politely to keep it down, and they blow her off, and then the manager finally, after being asked by the other customers, advises them that they are squatting and causing a disturbance, and they respond like that, they can get on the first flight back to Arabia as far as I’m concerned.
we missed you rosie, but we talked about you❤ i don’t think arabia is a country anymore http://www.livius.org/ap-ark/arabia/arabia…
Who the fuck gathers a group of six people together, goes to a coffee shop, doesn’t buy anything to make them a customer, be loud and obnoxious, then get pissed off that they are asked to purchase something or get out? Not to mention the fact that the first thing they do is accuse they manager of being racist. Nice!!! We can do without douchebags like that in our country no matter where they’re from, even here. Here’s a message for all who are new here, if you can’t be POLITE go the fuck home!!!!
Well PG… as Oscar Wilde said: ‘There’s only one thing worse than being talked about, and that’s NOT being talked about.”
When the student made the comment about pumping money into the economy here the server’s response should have been: “Not here you’re not… so, bye!” That’s what I would have said.
What a coinky-dink Rosie. We also compared you to a stream of bat’s piss. >: )
Methinks Housa bin-Farteen and his cell, er, um, classmates were most pissed off because the word of the young woman who complained was taken at equal value to theirs.
Different countries, different customs, lads. Must adapt.
I know Arabia isn’t a country anymore PG!!!! I was being *goes and looks up spelling* facetious!! eh.. doesn’t look right.
“We’re not terrorists”
I’d have said “Your terrorizing my last nerve!”
LOL! Tommy! Love that!
Bat piss? You think WP smells purty and I’m bat piss????
Actually, I can live with that…
i knew that you knew that, i think. words are good
I merely meant, Your Rosiness that you shine out like a shaft of gold, when all around is darkness.
Nice try Col. just for that, you don’t get to see pictures of my new puppy! Pfffft!
Can I see em!? I got 19 minutes left in my shift, and cat pics are all well and good but I like doggies!! I wanna see!
I also call bullshit on the “loud language” argument.
If anything the loudness can be attributed to their culture, not their language.
You monster – your new job must be working security at Guantanamo Bay. >: (
Don’t look Col.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101…
If I had looked I’d probably say something like, OMG HE’S SO GD CUTE! But, we all know I am a man of my word, so I wish you all the best with your imaginary canine playmate.
Weirdo!
BTW: Does Wheelie really smell purty?
FUCK YEAH!
Hmmm… I’ll have to check that out @ the next Halgonquin Round Table
Speaking of which…Hay Pretteh Kitteh, Beyotchez can haz summit?
And I challenge her to find somewhere dog friendly! Ha!
Ivanski, I can’t see where your wife could blame you for that ruckus – you were too busy sliding down the booth in helpless laughter – Painey and I left our volume control at home and shrugged at the pussies who couldn’t take our brilliant and scintillating wit. Man, Painey, you’re my kind of gal! By the way, when’s the next Algonquin Square Table? I still want to be Robert Benchley – who wants to be Harpo Marx?
May I be Dorothy Parker? Please!
Why not? Dorothy you is. Now who’s going to be George S. Kaufman?
“I didn’t like the play, but than I saw it under adverse conditions – the curtain was up. ”
― George S. Kaufman
Halifax Sleeper Cell seeks Coffeeless Coffee Shop….full story at 11.
Excellent TTFN… we also need an H.L. Menken and a George Sanders… takers anyone???
The real Algonquin Round Table:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f…
C’mon, fellow Summit Bitchers – we can do this but with a squareness that can’t be compared.
Halgonquin Square Table! wOOt!
I’ll be Arthur H. “Sam”uels – cause I look like a cross between Sam Clemens, and Sam Elliott ;), either that or Harpo.
Done and done Hugo! We’re getting there!
Painey smack me good!
Rosie, PK claims I smell manly and delicious. You’re welcome to take a hoot at the Roundtable.
Can I be Harpo? He was my fave Marxist! I’ll even play a song on the piano by rolling an orange on the keys.
Someone owes me a couple brownies!
Now, I have found Middle Eastern/Arabic folk to be overwhelmingly friendly and intelligent, and good people who treat my disability like not a horrible thing(Portugeuse, I’m looking at you, assholes). I tell everyone how great the people of Egypt were when I went. I keep getting Egyptian cab drivers. I talked to one for at least 45 minutes after arriving at Wheelie Manor. We laughed about the way Cairo people drive, and many other things.
Sometimes when I meet folk from SArabia it’s different, and Dubai, the Emirate that stole my beautiful girlfriend from me, with money and Prada shoes. These folks seem to feel quite entitled, more often in my experience, possibly because they are here for school on daddy’s piastre, and Canada is just pissy old campus of Canada University to them.
Of course I generalize, but I’ve seen this around my neighbourhood, and in my building.
Generalizing again, my Middle Eastern neighbours have been considerate and respectful, except in rare cases.
Maybe the yobs at the coffee shop were just rich and were not in the mood for insult, earned though it was.
Using the word extreme etc in your Bitch is a bit of prickery though. Accusing him of threatening violence.
In my opinion though.
Smootch!
what are tou talking about t.j.? i am not pissed at all. i’m not the one who penned this bitch. doesn’t matter to me if they were speaking klingon or martian. i just said maybe that particular area they were from, used louder tones, like some asian dialects and italians.
some arabic people sound like they are screaming at each other, trust me there. i have a lot of muslim and arabic friends, as well as greek and chinese too.
yes, we can also get loud ourselves, and when asked to tone it down, the reply is usually fuck off or shit like that.come on dude, read my comment again, you will see what i actually meant to say.
Thing is they say fuck you to your face … you’d just say it in your head. Which is better … meh.
I get to be Menken. I played the smartass reporter based on him in “Inherit The Wind” in grade 10.
This is starting to sound like a Hallowe’en Square Table folks!
“Manly and delicious” huh? Will definitely be checking THAT out!
can I be Emilio Estevez?
wait… I don’t think I get what you’re doing there….
but damn if those mighty ducks can’t skate!
Z3… you can be Emilio if you want, cause that would make it surreal enough to be cool
Tom, I don’t buy into the loud language thing, as well. but it is an interesting aspect of some cultures.
i just want to be the bad cop^^
Ummmm, exactly how bad, Painey?
http://www.papermag.com/blogs/BadLieutenan…
You would Painey m’girl! (like my new puppy?)
saweet rosie woof woof, he is always welcome at the shoppe. more like this commander http://lh5.ggpht.com/_V1hJiCJPLN4/ScOk0qHP…
LOL! You’ll be seeing her tomorrow PG!
screee^^i gots treats. on the 6th day they toiled and were thankful for doggie visitors
Since this thread has gone delightfully off-topic, I figured this is as good a place as any to post more info about Randi’s upcoming visit to Halifax, since I know some fellow bitchers were interested. Randi will be here next Friday (the 30th) at 6:00 PM at SMU’s Burke buillding (next to the church). Admission is $15 for non-CFI members, $5 for members. I should also note that I can get one person in for free. If you’re interested, send me an email at orgmastron@gmail.com.
Yeah… sorry Orgasmatron… that was my bad… and forgive my ignorance… who’s Randi and what and why?
well, isn’t the bottom line thatthey are in a COFFEE SHOP, and they clearly stated that they were NOT going to buy any COFFEE!?? kick them the fuck out! it is a business after all.
i work in the restaurant industry and i have seen on many occasions this exact scenario; several men taking up tables in a restaurant, but not buying anything. as well as being loud, obnoxious and oblivious and uncaring towards other customers.
self righteous assholes.
http://www.randi.org/jr/bio.html
Ohhhh THAT would be cool to see… now I know of whom we are speaking!
love the guy, i’ve posted this before but it sums him up nicely http://depletedcranium.com/randiscience.jp…
damn it, that would have been awesome. 🙁
That’s something I’d like to see
I think you misunderstood my comment as well LS. Eh.. wouldn’t be the first time.