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Another video store in Canada is closing its doors for good. But what is wrong with people. Why are you rushing in to buy DVDs? Are you stupid? All those movies are online for FREE and can be download in HD or BluRay. Congrats on wasting your money. —BitTorrent
This article appears in Sep 22-28, 2011.
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i like owning movies that i enjoy, but i also agree that people that flock to waste money any time there’s a deal are living on joke street.
Reminds me of what I always like to say about the clearance outlets – 70 % off ugly is still ugly.
has anyone here seriously downloaded a bluray? they aren’t 700mb files
what’s mb mean? kidding
There are many blu-ray rips on bittorrent, GV. As for the OP, some of us buy DVDs because we actually want to support the people who made the movie. (Which I realize might be a hard concept for you to grasp.)
Having money to buy shit and watch on a large plasma screen >>>>> waiting a week for something to download to watch on a computer.
I collect DVDs for the same reason I collect books, I like the look of them on my shelves.
…And next week on Hoarders, crazy, foul-mouthed Russian with war fixation threatens to go all Taras Bulba on your ass..
MYOB
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If everyone did what you do OP, movie producers would stop making movies. Or at the very least DVDs wouldn’t exist and your torrents would all be those shitty, shot in the theatre with a handycam, bootlegs.
Excuse me for supporting the people who entertain me.
I download movies too, and also own DVDs. I’ll spend my money how I please thanks, and I’ll never tell anyone else how to spend theirs, unlike you.
i have a small collection of dvds, really highbrow stuff^^ the books are running out of shelves and are piled up on the floor
Fuck torrents, I just take take take, no seeding for me, and yes, I’ve downloaded 2 Bluray DVD’s today, total size, 44GB.
Nothing wrong with getting DVD’s on sale. I watch movies/shows online all the time but the quality is questionable.
Because theft is such a nice thing. Why is downloading music and movies okay but the same people who do that wouldn’t steal a penny from anyone. Why are people self-entitled twats when it come to this? If they were truly free then MGM, Sony, et al would have all their stuff on their own sites for people to download for free and I don’t mean the movies that are 30+ years or flops.
If I can get ‘Killer Clowns From Outer Space’ for 5 bucks, I’ll be there.
right fucking on o.p., i use frostwire and bearshare quite a bit. and the movies and videos are fine. most are cd ripped and are blue ray too. why pay 20 bucks for a one time movie. i even downloaded avatar, in 3 d and it was wild to watch on my comp. kep peering people, we can make a difference.
ttfn, you really want that movie. i have it here, watched once. i think there is r movie on it, but haven’t looked in awhile.anothe
Is it a DVD, Sucks? I fed my VHS machine to the raccoons years ago. Man, that’s one great movie when you’ve twisted a big one – just make sure the tripod that’s holding it doesn’t get in the way.
actually, it is just one movie there tt.
yeah, it is a classic, i can loan it to you to make a copy if you want, but don’t really wanna sell it.
No problemo, Sucks. I could copy it and give it back the following summit or I could mail it to you. It’d be much appreciated – down here in Little Arse Corner, they play it weekly on the back of our road sign. I’d prefer to watch it in the comfort of my BBQ pit.
“total size, 44GB” … WTF, something’s gotta be wrong Diane? 44GB of your prized disc real-estate for two pornos! *shakes head* Noooooo Sir.
I dunno, do they put porn on blu-ray?
Ohh nvm.
Every time someone buys a blank disc there is money that goes towards suporting lost profits, when they remove that tax, i will agree to feel terrible about downloading.
You can get things on the internet almost the second they come out and if you have an HDMI port on your tv you can watch all your .avi files on your television. It’s even easier to do if you have a wireless network connected to an xbox 360.
The days of owning dvds are coming to an end. The last dvd I bought was around a year ago and I stopped mainly because they take up too much space. I’d be happy to pay for things if there was a suitable user-pay service available online. Netflix is a step in the right direction but so far there aren’t many options for that, at least not in Canada.
OB, likely they are selling the films from the Atlantic Film Festival. Afterall, they’re worthless.
Scortch!!!
I remember one day I was in looking at some movies and a kid said to his dad “I want that movie”, and the dad said “Oh I’ll just download it for free at home”.
Hey son, stealing is OK, everyone does it!
(I hate people.)
I currently have ALL the Dora series thank you very much. AND Max and Ruby. Irreplaceable 😉
Donk, it wasn’t porn that was the 44GB, it was Priest Blu Ray and Lord Of The Rings The Two Towers extended version Bluray. If I want porn, I’ll just watch it, certainly not download it. and who the fuck is Diane.
Ah I was le joking.
Um diane http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCQBZmT2M8c she’s in there.
GV that’s for making copies of music/videos you already OWN and has nothing to do with downloading.
Copying media has been around forever. No one who’s lived through the 80’s can say they never copied cassettes. So the whole morale aspect is bullshit and the laws are only there to protect the rich fat cat movie producers and overpaid actors. Also, if you guys are concerned about the file sizes, just do what I do and burn them on blank DVD’s and watch them on your players connected to your TV.
The way i figure, i still listen to the same music that i listened to when i was a teenager. I bought on cassette and cd, so now if i download the same music from the internet, my conscience is fine with it.
Downloading a bootleg copy is stealing.
So if being a THIEF, is what you aspire to , that’s your business. IMO its way past time Canadian authorities start prosecuting those it can catch.
I buy DVD’s & Blue Ray disc’s because I want the entire movie . I want any special features, director & actor interviews, the deleted scenes & gag reels are often pretty funny.
I don’t know where Life Suck’s gets off saying “paying 20 bucks for a one time…”
THere are very few movies in my huge collection, that I have only seen once.
Watching a movie again, is the reason I have a collection of movies, gives me the ability to watch what I feel like, when I feel like it.
If you’re paying to download music or movies, I see no problem with that, its the way things are evolving.
Teaching your child that stealing is alright…what kind of parent does that make you ?
1. I’m pretty sure a portion of blank cd’s go to bleeding artists but dvds do not.
That is why cd’s are actually more expensive… unless you buy the shitty quality ones.
2. every recent television I’ve seen has a vga port in the back to use it as a monitor.
hdmi works too if you have a decently new mobo.
3. if that’s the attitude than you shouldn’t have cable either because you can stream most shows right from the network websites… and actual cable if you are so inclined to find the right sites… wwi*cough*tv
4. a downloaded copy of a movie or show or cd is NOT the equivalent to a lost sale.
I would not buy half the shit I watch or listen to… but now I can test the waters without incurring the equivalent of a coaster.
5. fuck the producers and networks… they’re using an outdated model and haven’t changed with the times…. why do you think these video places are going bust?
adapt for fuck sakes. Same can be said for newspapers and their bleeding heart.
news is available online for free… give me some bloody incentive to buy a copy… or offer it for free like the Coast and Metro. (I’m not saying metro’s a great paper… but the price is right for what you get)
6. and if the tv and film industry goes bust…. who the fuck cares? it’s not like it’s vital to have more jersey shore shit and Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus anyways.
I think we can live without Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla 2
zZz, I care & I know about 420 other families locally here in the Maritimes who care. We’re are all part of the movie & music industry…we’re the tech’s who help make some of those shows & its our bread & butter that is being put at risk.
At Life Sucks, I just read a comment from you -quote- ” you either obey the law or suffer for it, nough said here” -unquote-
So are you just a wishy washy twit, or when you say something here or anywhere else is it just drivel ?
That anything you write is bullshit, you’re just spouting whatever you happen to feel at any particular time & don’t have the mental capacity to remember when you do a 180 , on something to do with obeying/disobeying the law ?
If you’re going to make a statement to obey the law in one thread, then do an about face on obeying the law in another…what exactly gives ? Because I find that confusing to say the least.
yeah… but you’re forgetting I don’t give a shit about you.
as much as I love TPB, I doubt I wouldn’t be able to live without them.
stick to concerts or hey, get a job that actually matters.
(actually, I should do that too… but I digress as nothing I do can be considered ‘entertainment’)
420… is that an accurate figure?
or just pulling that out of the ‘smokey’ air.
More, in general, I care about maritimers, so I don’t have a problem wishing the 420 families the best.
However, in my case, I don’t buy new music or seek new music. And the only music I download are albums from my youth, often albums that aren’t available in the local music stores anyways.
I have bought these albums before on cassette, and cd, and in some cases vinyl and 8 track. I have paid for the copyright license more than once on some of my favorite music.
I am entitled to make backup copies of any media that I have purchased a copy. If I chose to use the internet to acquire backups instead of making my own backups…I understand that it is technically illegal, but fuck off with the fine print. I don’t give a shit.
@More (and others): http://wiki.pirateparty.ca/index.php/Manif…
@Burning Man: “Fuck torrents, I just take take take, no seeding for me” I used to be the same way, until I realized that it was extremely douchebaggish behaviour.
@ Orgasmatron, google Newsgroups, or Unlimited News-hosting, I’m sure you will figure it out, no douchebaggery needed.
It appears I may have misinterpreted your comment. I thought you were torrenting until the download was finished and then not seeding. My apologies.
No problem Orgasmatron, this shit is way better than torrents, 0 peer to peer bullshit.
i agree.. I’m a total torrentwhore. but i also think a scary future is coming. Eventually we’ll have to pay.
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6. and if the tv and film industry goes bust…. who the fuck cares? it’s not like it’s vital to have more jersey shore shit and Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus anyways.
I think we can live without Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla 2
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And no more Fight Club, Matrix, The Trotsky, Salaam Bombay, Afghan Luke, Gone With the Wind, Platoon. Etc. Et. Effing. Cetera.
Art, and peoples’ hard work, has value. You can’t go from having a career your whole adult life to getting nothing, as some guy screams at you about “a new model”, and want to continue to do the same work, but for no money now.
Because someone in the audience can find the cds I’m on online, I should now do it for free.
Fuck that way of thinking.
Art has value. Peoples’ hard work has value. And just because you can download everything “for free” doesn’t mean there’s no cost involved.
Otherwise, why do anything? Dome asshole is just going to take it anyway.
Note: I use Bittorrent. I watch tv online. I also patronize my local(and locally owned) bookstore, buy CDs and DVDs and magazines. Sure I’m a hypocrit, but at least I’m still paying for a lot of shit. The answer is not to declare “Free For All!” and take what you want, just because you can.
hey wheelie…
some artists get it.
http://www.harveydanger.com/press/why.php
http://www.nme.com/news/smashing-pumpkins/…
http://theslip.nin.com/
http://www.ehow.com/how_2257130_release-al…
serisouly… you’re not going to beat tech nerds at ripping it off.
so join them and instead of fighting and they will love you for it.
push the merch and concerts and enjoy the free publicity.
in other words, get with the fucking times man!
as for movies… well stop paying the fuckers millions of dollars needlessly.
publicize online… not paying for spots.. tighten the bootstraps and market the thing smartly.
seriously.. if rebecca fucking black can make a million dollars off idiotic kids than really, we’re all one hit away from retirement.
art has a cost… what you put into it. no-one asked you to and you should consider it a fee for doing something you love.
yes, we the stupid people: buying movies/dvd’s what a bunch of morons we are! what are we thinking….
this whole attitude of “well, it’s free on the internet….” is detrimental to the artists in the long term. of course you’ve all heard it before, but unfortunately it’s the facts asswipe. since you seem to think it’s o.k. to steal other peoples hard work which of course cost them money to produce, how about you start working for free you halfwit? then maybe, i’ll take your crap comment seriously.
zZz… In my local there are 420 members & we all have families.
That doesn’t include the camera local & their members.
The DGC & their members
Actra & their members.
All of these Atlantic Canadian’s work on these projects to bring an idea from the conceptual to the physical.
Just as anyone else who creates something from the raw materials, they deserve to be compensated for their , time , effort & investment of funds & just like a store owner, should be able to prosecute someone from stealing from them.
As for being able to make copies of this material, if you buy a copy, you can legally copy it for your own use. I see no problem with that, I don’t believe burning a CD containing different songs from different artists to play in my truck is stealing, I already bought the material. So I am just taking the pieces of it I enjoy the most & copying that so i can enjoy it elsewhere.
That’s completely different from stealing it in the first place, or like happen to me in a bar earlier this year a guy had a note book with over 2000 titles in it, you pick the movie of your choice & he’ll download you copies 3 movies $10 dollars.
I passed… this is peoples livelyhood this illegal downloading is affecting & its not the movie stars who get hurt, its the working stiff who doesn’t get to work on another project. Because the first one didn’t do well enough & illegal downloads are affecting the market to the extent Producers can see they are losing too much money for another project to be feasible !
Because whether you believe it or not, DVD sales are often where many pictures make a profit. THeatre box office receipts may be great for a small select few block busters but the majority of films don’t even break even at the box office, its merchadising & royalties that make it profitable.
You go removing say10-25 or more percent of that market & they see no profit.
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art has a cost… what you put into it. no-one asked you to and you should consider it a fee for doing something you love.
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However you want to justify stealing someone’s work, dude.
I’m going to keep putting value on art. It’s vitally important to our wellbeing, and just because someone figures out how to defeat each new type of security won’t make me give up and give it to them for free.
What you’re going to get is people not producing any more, because others are making the decisions for it’s value, and the artist gets nothing from it.
And just because a few artists are okay with “giving it away”, that doesn’t mean you get to make the choice for other artists who still believe art and artists have value.
hey, if it gets the utter trash off tv at the price of Everything off tv… so be it.
if it means movies don’t get made… so be it.
yes, I watch movies, and shows… but I’m pretty sure I could get along just fine without it.
I’d gladly trade the shows I like for not making the rest of the trash out there.
making utter SCUM rich and famous for no reason whatsoever.
that’s just me though…
and I mean it.
I’m not ‘justifying’ anything… I’m helping progress the means to the end.
now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be off in the corner churning some butter.
gosta makes me some applie crisp for din din.
I tried paying for cable. I wanted to watch Californication. After I costed it out and looked at the multi-layers of channels and crap that I would be paying for to get this one show I looked into how I could go about watching it via downloads. Haven’t looked back since. Actually watch more and better quality shows than ever before. A bit bummed about the ‘no more rabbit ears’ but I get enough local news from the internet as well.
Eat me, cable networks.
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that’s just me though
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Agreed!
Lols
that’s why I said it.
I know it’s not a popular opinion…
but I’m free to have it.
speaking of non-popular opinions….
<:)
I disagree. Although, I’ll admit I rip dvds because I’m a poor girl right now, I’m not proud of it and I certainly wouldn’t rag on people who get their entertainment legally and responsibly.
I also get my DVD’s from the library. Also free.
i rent from this guy sometimes, he’s a good fellow http://thechronicleherald.ca/Metro/1264557…
The whole concept of “well if everyone did that, then ” makes me laugh. It would never get to “everyone doing that” because someone else – in this case the entertainment industry – would change the stakes somehow.
The idea that artists will stop producing art if they aren’t compensated (adequately) isn’t very convincing. It totally ignores the fact that “starving artists’ have been around producing art for centuries. Prior to the internet actors and musicians didn’t get paid all that much, although a Tom Hanks or Jay-Z here and there likely skew the average. It also ignores the fact that the quantity of movies and television programming hasn’t decreased over the last ten years just as online pirating has become more prevalent. In some sense the movie and television industry is starting to respond: movie going is becoming increasingly popular and marketed, television networks usually have online streaming, Netflix, itunes renting, etc.
I’ve always viewed the high-budget entertainment industry as having a sort of transaction-based market failure. Cable networks and production companies come in and act as an intermediary between producers and consumers of art. They repackage (“rebrand”) a product and sell it at an outrageously high price without adding much substance.
Internet-based piracy has forced the industry to decentralize. Companies need to find more customized services to tailor to their consumers’ needs, otherwise they have BitTorrents to contend with. Prices are set accordingly and artists are paid accordingly. In the end BitTorrents force competition – and competition isn’t all bad.
Cranky, Netflix has Californication.
case in point… stupid fucking itunes actually makes quite a hefty sum.. and so do the artists,
because they found the pricepoint that people were willing to pay to not be pirates, yarrrr….
same with the HP tablet firesale…
it was a piece of shit until it only cost 100 bucks.
now they can’t make enough….. and won’t.
I’m still waiting for mine.
20 bucks for a movie? when i can get it free? fuck off…
2 bucks… hey, maybe you won’t see people being so stingey
“It also ignores the fact that the quantity of movies and television programming hasn’t decreased over the last ten years just as online pirating has become more prevalent.”
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!!!?!? The quantity may not have but the quality sure as shit has bombed.
TV has gone to shit. Damn near every show is some low budget “reality” show.
Music has gone to shit. No one wants to take any risks because they are too scared to lose what little bit of cash they have left.
Movies have gone to shit, see above^^
You know why? Cause they can’t afford to spend the kind of money they used to to make things happen. Cuz they aren’t making as much cuz millions of people steal from them.
I support music I like because if I don’t have good music in my life I get grouchy. It’s what helps me relax, or get amped up, or ask myself tough questions or enjoy myself or whatever. If I don’t support it it will cease to exist eventually.
I agree that artists and entertainment companies need to get with the times. They have been ripping us off for years. Before downloading you had to spend your money to find out whether or not you liked a CD. You paid for the songs you didn’t like, without even knowing.
I downloaded J. Cole’s new debut album last night. It blew my mind. It doesn’t come out until Sept. 27th and I will buy at least one copy of it when I get paid on Sept 30th, because if he doesn’t do good numbers, he and others who want to make that kind of music, the kind of music that I love that is sorely missing for the musical landscape right now, will cease to exist.
You know how much it costs to produce an album? How much time it takes? Never mind the creativity and passion, cause you can’t put a price tag on that.
Armies of people work on movies, especially animated ones. People like you and me with bills to pay and kids to feed. Yeah actors are overpaid but so what? The way I see it they risked everything for just a shot, not a guarantee, a chance that maybe they’d get to do what they love and get rich.
These people invest years of their lives just for a possible shot at the big time.
Not like doctors or lawyers, or most professionals who pay to go to a school and are guaranteed a job if they pass.
Acting is on average one of the lowest paying professions.
If things continue this way eventually everyone will give up on their dreams and live an average life, and we’ll have nothing to let loose to, or entertain us.
Art is important.
“I know you’re sayin, they don’t know they won’t miss it / Besides, I ain’t a thief, they won’t take me to prison / So if I come to your job, take your corn on the cob, and take a couple kernels off it that would be alright with you?”
-Andre 3000
more, here’s the thing. if you pay for something, anything, then you own it, right? so now, i own this movie, i want others to share my joy of owning this movie, so where to put it for everyone else to enjoy too? bin-fucking-go, the internet, via a peer share group.
yeah i get that these people have to make their money, but wait a second. they already got paid millions for their job. which is now over. so why the fuck, should they get any more money? now music is a different thing entirely. they are still doing shows and gigs. the actors are not perforing this movie every fucking day fifty times over.
yeah, i download shit, so fucking sue me. do you use copied tapes or c.d.’s for background, i know a lt of groups that use background music, same as movies, do they pay each time it is used, i bet fucking not. anyway, you do your thing, and i’ll do mine, and the rest will do theirs, agreed.
A thief… by any other name, is still stealing… from someone.
Trying to justify it, because you bought a copy, or you can get it free, doesn’t change that fact.
You’re a thief, congratulations your 1 step above a woman beater & 2 above a child molestor…they like you, are also criminals.
i’m not sure about your rating system mr more, but i agree. just because you can, doesn’t mean you should
TJ, you may think the quality of tv has gone down but not everyone does. Yeah there’s a lot of shit but there’s also a lot of good stuff (The Wire, Treme, Breaking Bad, etc). A lot of people like to talk about the good ol’ days of television of out pure nostalgia alone. In 10 years people will be talking up a lot of stuff that is currently considered shitty programs, appealing to their ‘cult’ status.
Anyway, I agree in principle that artists should be paid, but it’s not like artists are being shortchanged ‘because of piracy’. My argument is simply that piracy won’t mean that you’ll have all these artists going unpaid. It means that the content providers will have to find better ways to sell their material. Netflix is a good example. Say what you will about the content, but the model works: you can watch what you want, when you want, without commercials, and in whichever format you want (TV, computer screen, smart phone). Artists will continue to be paid, but hopefully the intermediaries will take a hit.
I use OpenOffice without making a donation. I must be the devil.
Three cheers for btjunkie! Hooray!!
The million channel universe is going to kill it. Take the total of actually quality showed and divide by the current total number of viewable hours. Sorry, I’m not paying for crap. I don’t eat at mcdonalds and I don’ waste my time watching crap.
“…Afterall, they’re worthless.”
“Just like your life style and the people who choose it.”
– Posted by Donairious BIG on September 22, 2011 at 10:22 PM
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