Marriage in general stems from religion… but tons of atheists get married using the same ceremony as practicing Christians and no one is getting on the atheists’ cases about ruining the sanctity of marriage? I find that odd. They won’t allow gay marriage because of religious influences (in a country that separates church and state?) but they’ll let atheists get married?

Haven’t we separated though? Which would mean that marriage is no longer a religious ceremony (which would be now why people can get married by just acquiring a license + witnesses) and if that is the case, then religious rulings on what marriage “is and isn’t” wouldn’t apply.

So, it would appear we have 2 types of “marriage” in North America. The religious and the lawful union. Since the lawful union gives the same rights to non-religious people one could conclude that religious rulings do not apply to that union, meaning that it’s fully up to the government to decide what is a proper relationship for its people?

I’m happy we live in such a “free” society. —I’m Not Gay, I am Religious, But I’m Positive We Live in Canada

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  1. ——-
    and no one is getting on the atheists’ cases about ruining the sanctity of marriage?
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    Because they hate queers more than they hate heathens.
    Don’t worry though. If we truly become a Christian Nation, they’ll come for us too.

    Wp

  2. I’m really having a hard time understanding exactly what the point you’re trying to make is, OP.

  3. When Massachusetts legalized same gender marriage, Aesop and I had already been married a few years. We have been just as married since the law took effect. I was at a craft workshop this weekend and it just seemed natural to hear women talking about their wives…

  4. I am also a little confused on what you are for or against. If only truly religious people that actually cracked open a bible and read it where to be married I believe there would be even fewer marriages than there is today.

  5. ‘God’ is in our constitution and also is mentioned in ‘O Canada’. There is no seperation of church and state in Canada but there is in the USA.

  6. it would help if we actually had states to separate from…

    aso, fun fact:
    Preamble to the Charter, 1999

    In 1999, a New Democratic Party MP, Svend Robinson, proposed in the House of Commons that the reference to God be struck from the preamble to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, citing concerns about Canada’s diversity and those Canadians who did not believe in God. Robinson was supported by a thousand constituents who had signed a petition, but the proposal was controversial and the party responded by undermining Robinson’s responsibilities and his position in the caucus. The proposal went no further.

  7. We seem to be mixing up marriage and weddings again. By “ceremony” you’re referring to the wedding part, asking why atheists should be included in a religious rite. By talking about gay marriage and the religious objections to it, you’re talking about the legal partnership.
    Marriage is more about law than religion as I believe Xeno pointed. The religious prerequisites I think OP is referring to harkens back to when the church was the law which now of course it isn’t.

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