You were bumming change off of us waiting for the last bus home, unfortunately now a days people only carry cards, and each one of us said that. I was nice enough to give you and your friend a smoke each and when I said I was sorry I had no money I only kept cards you asked me to go to the bank. I chuckled and said “Sorry, I’ll miss my bus” and you responded with “Well you have 5 minutes” “My banks a ten minute walk, each way” “Well there’s a CIBC right there” “And they’ll charge me to take money out, the smallest I can get is a 20 and I’m not giving you a 20.” You then sarcastically said thanks anyway then asked me one more time “You sure you can’t help us get food lady” I said no, apologized again, and you stormed off without so much as a real thanks for those smokes I gave you that I didn’t have too. Ungrateful fucking people, I swear I’ll never give someone who seems to be having a rough time anything again because they don’t appreciate it. — I Should Have Ignored You Like The Rest Of The Crowd
This article appears in Mar 28 – Apr 3, 2013.
There is no, absofuckinglutely no, goddamned reason why this conversation should have continued after you said no the first time. You don’t owe these parasites money, you don’t owe them an apology, and you sure as fuck don’t owe them an explanation.
The minute they start to give you attitude you drop them like a fart in a wind tunnel. You own the street; they don’t.
Right on, Ivan – couldn’t have said it better. I cannot believe the sense of entitlement this jackass had – if he/she had asked me to go to the bank, I would have told him to go suck on a fucking parking meter.
The worst part is that some of these dirt sacks run to the liquor store and/or lotto booth as soon as they grub up their cash from poor, unsuspecting fools.
“A real NSCAD Student…” would have been the one asking for change.
If someone asks for money for food, I offer to buy them food or take them to a restaurant, and they refuse, then I’m morally off the hook.
I’ve bought full meals because someone was hungry, but I’m not supporting someone’s drug/drink downward spiral.
My money, my choice.
p
People need to learn to live within their means, whatever that may be. With the price of cigs today who can afford to give them away. I would be ashamed to ask for one with the price they are going for now? Again. are you serious? Bottom line for anyone is if you can’t afford them I guess that means you can’t smoke anymore. Wow, stupid bitch or what???
“CORRECTIVE BEHAVIOR CONDITIONING AND THE MYTH OF UNDERCLASS EVOLUTION” (II)
Well, having spent a brisk morning stroking my Quinny outside of one of Lachine’s most prestigious day care centres, I decided to check up on the doings of my underclass devotees. I am pleased to see that, the current tactics of Positive Behavior Modification are being rigorously applied by the new Moderator.
I draw your attention to the following comment:
boomy(04-03, 12:38 PM)
“Wow, stupid bitch or what???”
In and of itself,the comment is irrelevant and vapid. Yet given the previous behaviour of the pack of hooligans who delude themselves with the illusion that, under the tutelage of their “Autarch”, or whatever he calls himself now, they run the board, the lack of response is earth shattering.
It does not require an excess of imagination to postulate the avalanche of endorsements, agreements, and support that the “horde” would give poor unfortunate boomy for finally confronting the truth about her own dismal condition, but surprisingly, we have heard nary a word from the usual suspects. Now, I would not be so optimistic as to conclude that they have discovered courtesy and understanding. It is far more likely that they are clearly befuddled by the Moderator’s behavioral conditioning and are quite incapable of response. Just like the wolfpack of bleating sheep they are.
Keep to your noble course Moderator. For further vindication of your methods I recommend to you the following self-published monograph:
“Give me Back My Underpants; An Ontological Deconstruction of the Bullying Epidemic” 2006, Dr. Dennis Cato, Ph.D.
A most edifying read.
A polluter of mayonnaise.
Anzio!
Why did you even engage in this?
I simply say “no”, if they can stand for hours bumming and harassing a person for money they can goddamn well get a job. I work for my money, I’ll donate to a charity but not self entitled bums.
Ivan FTW.
That’s why I always carry around a stack of job applications from fast food joints. When they ask you for money, give them a job application instead. Or ask them to do a little dance because they have to work for their money like everyone else.
OP I think you were very kind to give smokes to these guys. I agree with most of the comments, but I am really with Paulio here–I truly enjoy helping others, but I only give or share food (and sometimes give away mitts or gloves if it is winter). I will go and buy someone food, but I never give money, except to buskers. Anyone panning who asks me to go to the bank machine for them (or approaches me at an ATM asking for cash) gets a big fat fuck-off from me.
You sound like a genuinely kind person OP, who is righteously pissed-off–the people you shared your smokes with took them, but then spat your kindness on the ground when they couldn`t bully you into giving them cash. That was SHIT behaviour OP, but YOU are still KIND and GOOD.
OP, don`t let those douchebags stifle who you want to be as a person. If you enjoy being kind then be kind, just realize that YOU get to decide just how that will happen. THOSE GUYS WERE ASSHOLES OP! IMO, an ASSHOLE (who is panning for money) is someone who: approaches you inappropriately, makes DEMANDS of you, approaches you in an inappropriate place (e.g., ATM, bathroom or other fairly enclosed space), tries to bully or scare you, invades your personal space, and/or does not respect a polite `no`to their panning.
If you do encounter douchebags who behave in the above manner towards you OP, first and foremost maintain your own safety–make sure you are with friends or, if you are alone, head towards a crowd and/or lighted area. I.E. MAKE SURE YOU ARE SAFE BEFORE YOU TELL THEM TO FUCK OFF. Sometimes just walking away is enough–you get to leave their douchebag energy with them and also (therefore) have a nicer day for yourself:)
There are a lot of nice people on the streets who would have appreciated your generosity the other night OP (really). That being said, don`t feel obliged (what`s yours IS yours)…but if you are so inclined to be kind then remember that respect is the rule, so, if you are being disrespected then keep your good energy and leave the foolish energy with the fools.
Hope your next night out has a much sweeter ending:) Sending good energy your way OP:)
Right after I read this, I saw a friend on my FB post a similar story. I’m willing to bet these assholes are trying to find someone stupid enough to go to a bank machine with them so they can clean out their account. If this happens to someone else, call the police. At the very least it’s harassment.
FRIENDS FB POST:
The other night I getting ready to leave the theatre with a friend (we were the last to leave) when two homeless men knocked on the locked door and asked us to come outside. When we didn’t, they told us they were homeless and asked for change. Telling them we didn’t have any wasn’t an option. They asked us to go to the ATM and take some money out for them. We said sorry, but no. We waited a minute before leaving, and as soon as we did, they followed us in order to tell us where the nearest ATM was in order to give them some cash. This was ridiculous.
ABSOLUTELY Hoist–good call!
it generally starts with got a smoke, got a light? no, i have nothing for you
So glad it didn’t turn into a robbery for your friends, Hoist.
That’s a situation where you call the police on them. Even if it wasn’t a set-up, that counts as aggressive panhandling.
If someone solicits me from a passive, sitting position, I’ll give them a polite “No”. If there are more than one or they are on their feet maneuvering around me; I’m at Def-Con 2. I’m no Georges St. Pierre, (by a frigging long shot) but if something does kick off, I intend to be found with plenty of DNA evidence on my teeth and nails.
To put the shoe on the other foot, I was in my local Lawton’s st the beginning of winter a year+ ago. Security guy said “How’s it going?”
I said it was freezing out, winter was here, and how the metal on my pushrims on the chair feel colder than the air somehow.
In line to pay for my blueberry iced tea, he walked up and gave me a nice pair of Mark’s Work Wearhouse gloves, telling me someone gave them to him as a gift but he had a pair of “tactical gloves” for his job.
A small part of my mind was insulted that he thought I was a “poor bastard”, then my reasonable Paul brain told me it was simple human kindness, and accepting the gloves would make him feel good, and my hands would be warm(more importantly!).
Not everyone is “on the make” to scam you out of money or your generosity. I don’t believe in karma, or even god, but giving and accepting with humility is one of the beautiful things of our existance that can bridge the social/financial gap.
p
Certainly giving to someone in need is a good thing to do…IF and WHEN you can afford to/the mood strikes you. Someone coming up to me and repeatedly asking that I take my money out of my bank account for them – and I’ve never seen this person before? I’m with Ivan on that one. They need to back the fuck up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe…
screee, love that scene
Is crack and dilaudid called “food” nowadays? Useless fucking scum.
“Is crack and dilaudid called “food” nowadays? Useless fucking scum.”
A lot of those people sodypop referred to as “useless fucking scum” are addicted because of a dirty lazyass money grubbing doctor prescribing dilaudid to a teenager for a fucking stubbed toe. Sure those addicts bumming money are very annoying but who are we to judge?
It’s annoying enough to be asked for money by strangers on the street but that kind of aggression needs to be nipped in the bud. Report them and/or threaten to report them.
Ever notice that there isn’t any panhandlers down here in the beautiful Annapolis Valley? Interesting!
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Who are we to judge?
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I’m the guy who had his beloved handmade bass guitar stolen by a drug addict.
*That’s* who the fuck I am to judge.
My friend in Cuba had his mother beaten to death by a deug addict.
He’s probably going to judge too.
p
My condolences to your friend.
“I intend to be found with plenty of DNA evidence on my teeth and nails.” – We’d have to start calling you Col. Petri Dish
“I don’t believe in karma, or even god, but giving and accepting with humility is one of the beautiful things of our existance that can bridge the social/financial gap.” – Well said, sir.
Col. Crime Scene has a better ring to it, IMHO.
Makes me sound like a super- hero.
“Ever notice that there isn’t any panhandlers down here in the beautiful Annapolis Valley?”
That’s because ain’t nobody got money down there. heh. Panhandling in Windsor or Hantsport can’t really be worthwhile. haha
ACTUALLY, all joking aside, I’ve encountered a couple of panhandlers in Wolfville the past few times I’ve been back, sad to say.
Also: I find an ipod helps drown out the bums. And not making eye contact. I’ve dealt with enough aggressive bums that I just ignore the lot of ’em.
That’s a new level of bullshit right there….
I’d have told him to sell the smokes if he’s so hard up.
jebus.
I usually respond to the rude ones with “I already gave you money. You’ll find it with the canadian government.”
and crank my tunes and stroll off into the sunset.
fucking bums make me sick – get a damn J – O – B.
There seem to be more panhandlers or bums in city centres and urban areas because:
1. They are easier to travel to. It’s much easier to hitchike or grab a bus into Halifax or Dartmouth, rather than going to Truro, Hantsport or Kentville.
2. A big jump in population. Sitting at the intersection of Quinpool and Robie, you’re gonna make more money than you would anywhere in Annapolis Valley.
monie or cokies are all guid. i will take booth.