I’m so sick of being bullied by the cops in this city. In the past 4 or 5 months I’ve had two incidents where they physically harmed my friend and my girlfriend, and now last night one of them caused me to damage my car. Here’s what happened.
I’m at a fast food place in Fairview going through the drive thru when I see an undercover car with the lights flashing, he’s out of the car searching some guy’s car, the problem is his back end is in the way of the drive thru. I could tell I wasn’t going to be able to get through without hitting him so I looked at him and gestured and asked him if he could please move his car a couple feet forward. He just looked at me as if to say “how dare you even look me in the eyes, you’re lucky I don’t beat you up and arrest you” and said nothing. Looked me right in the face and refused to even acknowledge me, just gave me the death stare, even held it for a good 8 seconds. I didn’t want to press the issue because I could tell he was an asshole and didn’t feel like spending the night in a cold cell.
So I went for it, my only option at this point being that I had two cars behind and nowhere else to turn, and sure enough, I scratched my car on the curb, even though I barely made it past his car without hitting it. I had 3 inches max. I get out of the car to look at the damage, and say to him “It would have been really nice if you could have moved your car a couple of feet.” This fucking smug little puke faced prick, who had just been starting at me the whole time while I’m assessing the damages, trying to intimidate me, looking at me like “I DARE you to say something to me” has the nerve to say to me, in a loud, aggressive tone “Don’t fuckin look at me, why don’t you learn how to fuckin drive, the SUV in front of you made it just fine and he’s bigger than you.” Then he told me to get in my car and cursed at me some more.
First off, genius, it’s not about size. Different cars have different dimensions. That SUV was sitting really high, my car sits really low and has a body kit, the side skirt of which is now damaged and hanging off because you decided to park in the middle of a fucking drive thru. Secondly, where the fuck do you get off talking to me like that? I’d bet my life you wouldn’t act so tough without that fucking badge. Telling me to learn how to drive? I KNEW I WASN’T GOING TO MAKE IT, THAT’S WHY I ASKED YOU TO MOVE YOUR FUCKING CAR YOU FUCKING PIG COCKSUCKER. If I had hit your car I’d probably be sitting in jail right now. Why don’t YOU learn how to fucking PARK? Oh that’s right you never get tickets so why would you bother.
I’m not going to take this. I called the fast food place, they got the whole thing on tape, I had a witness in the car with me who can verify that I came extremely close to hitting your car but still didn’t have enough room to get through. I got the license plate number of the silver Jetta you were driving and I’ve contacted the police, all that’s left to do now is call a lawyer. I will have these damages paid for, which I estimate will run me over $500 with labour because the side skirt will need to be replaced. Money that I don’t feel I should have to spend because you were too busy busting some guy for weed at a fast food drive thru to move your fucking car a foot forward, out of the way of taxpayers who are just trying to get their fucking ice cream and go about minding their own business on a Friday night.
I will have the police pay to replace my sideskirt if it’s the last thing I do before I draw my last fucking breath. I don’t care if it ends up costing me more in the long run. That’s the reason they get away with this, because people say “it’s not worth it.” Well fuck that. I’m so sick of being pushed around and bullied by you fucking pansies who wouldn’t even look at me sideways if you didn’t have society’s approval to be an aggressive bullying fucking dickhead. It should come out of that cop’s pocket, but now I’m just dreaming. That’s the real stinger here, even if I DO somehow prove in court that the cop caused me to damage my car, which I’ll admit is unlikely, any settlement I got would come out of our tax dollars.
Again, fuck you with a rusty toolbox sideways, and fuck every cop who thinks it’s okay to be rude, aggressive, confrontational and indifferent to the public whose taxes (the highest in the country) pay for your salary and for all your resources. There is no need to treat citizens like trash, bad police-community relations hurt everyone. —Go Straight to Hell You Limp Dick Piece of Shit
This article appears in Nov 1-7, 2012.
You should have just ate your Big Mac in the car and waited it out.
..too much drama there dik tracy
Starting a bitch by stating in the past 5 months you and close friends have had run-ins with police automatically invalidated this bitch. I’ve lived here close to 5 years and haven’t once had an issue. Then saying shit like “Pig cocksucker” and “Limp dick PoS” and still expecting sympathy? Way out of line. It sounds like this is just one prick acting like a prick to another prick.
LMAO – this was hilarious! Couldn’t wait for someone to finish their job because they had the munchies! Priceless
Once you said you had a bodykit on your car (lemme guess.. a sunfire? are you a member of j-bodies of nova scotia?) I lost my interest in this. When a cop is doing his job, you don’t interfere. You just sit and wait if you have to. If you didnt have your stupid body kit you would have been fine. Also, they will never ever have to pay because YOU made the choice to drive on through instead of being patient.
A little bit of patience would have paid off for you young man…
HEY O.B. join the digital age …there’s this great little device ITs called a digital camera (video perferably with sound) it records video & is an excellent way to show your side of the story & get results…. don’t believe me .
Check out todays Chronically Horrid & see what the bicyclist used to get a driver who almost took him out charged .
Its like I’ve said many times, those in Blue ,while necessary for our society to survive individuals are often power tripping & breaking the laws they are suppose to uphold & the only way to stop it is to get rid of the assholes that make all of them look bad In My Opinion.
I agree with more. If everyone had cameras in their cars we would be protected from the assholes who like to treat people wrongly, especially the violent ones.
I have a great little dash cam that I picked up on ebay for 30 bucks. I have already captured a few dewsh bags and their antics on camera.
OP here is what you do! You just sit and wait for the cop to move their car pretty damn simple, you’re holding up the cars behind who oh well if they get pissed the fast food staff can then go talk to the police. I see it as you had a chance to prevent the damage to your vehicle but you were too stupid to think out all options. Thus you should not get reimbursed for the skirt on your pos car…
There is always the option of parking your car, and physically walking in. No one forced you to drive around the police car, you chose to do that. The cop also wasn’t parked as you claim, he was making a traffic stop. And if you handled the situation with as much attitude as you put into this bitch then its not surprising you got an attitude in return. The whole lawyer thing is an empty threat, we know it and the cops know it. You also don’t need a lawyer for a sitution like this, they’d also cost alot more than $500 you probably won’t get.
The notion to park, get out, and politely ask the two drivers behind you to please back up to let you out never fucking occurred, did it.
Fairview has so much going for it these days.
I’m sorry, are you all scared of the cops or something?!
Regardless of who the OP is and what his past is, he was at a drive-through and was in the right. The idiot cop on the other hand parked partially blocking the exit. So I personally would have told the jackass off. I did it before and will do it again. They actually don’t like it when you stand up for yourself and they can’t do jack-shit about it.
I’ll give you a couple of examples!
GF bought a used car that had tinted windows. Within a week she was pulled over and given a ticket for that. Which is fine, she never really argued or anything. The cope gave her an option though which she thought was nice of him. If she removed the tinting within a week, she can contact him and he’ll cancel the ticket. She did.
She contacted him and setup and appointment with him. He gave her a time and place to meet and she happily took the time out of her day to do so. Well he was a no show.
She waited for about 15 minutes and called him back, he said he’ll be there shortly, just stopped to get a coffee with a couple of people on the way there. Really?!!
Fine, she waited. An hour passed since he gave her the original time to meet. She called again and he actually got pissed at her. 10 mins after that blow up on the phone, he showed up. So 1 hour and 10 mins later he showed up. Now she’s never had an run-ins with the police not has she ever gotten any tickets aside from the odd parking ticket.
Right off the back he gets off his motorcycle and literally stars swearing at her, including “Fuck”. Takes the ticket and cancels it then threatens her by saying: you better hope you don’t run into me in the future. This is an HRM Senior Traffic Officer. Luckily I wasn’t there.
She filed a complaint against him and found out that he had other complaints in the past.
Second example.
Traffic check point. 2 cars ahead of me. 2 officers in the middle of the 2 lane 2 way road.
There were no cars in the other direction. The closer cop signals us to go forward, directs the first car to go through, second car to go see the cop ahead of him and signals me to move forward a bit. Now naturally since there are 2 cops there, no on-coming traffic, I thought since the first cop is checking the car in front of me, this one wants to check me.
So I’m slowly moving ahead then he starts yelling at me. I had a passenger with me at the time. He yelled and said: Where do you think you’re doing, don’t you know how to stop?!
So I replied by saying that I thought he wanted me to proceed to his position so he can check my car. He replied, still yelling for no reason, well stop, so I replied ok I stopped, you don’t have to yell. Because I said then, he actually pulled me over and kept yelling, so I looked at the other guy and said, I’ll be more than gladly to pull over as long as both of you are here by my car with one yelling and the other as a witeness, and I have a passenger as a witness also.
The guy that was yelling was still doing so, leaning on the car and asked to see my license.
I took it out and he was about to grab it, except everything was legal on it, I did nothing wrong so I know my rights, I refused to give it to him and asked him to not lean against the car. He can see the license fine without grabbing it. He has no reason to see it to begin with. He asked, is that your current address and signature, explained that it really wasn’t relevant to the situation nor does he require that information at this time.
Then he couldn’t do anything more. He let me move on.
So just bullying. Pure bullying, power tripping and intimidation.
Not all are like that but a lot are on power trips!
Public should educate themselves about their rights. Cops cannot touch you unless you’re doing something illegal. OP wasn’t so he was in his full rights to ask him politely to move his car.
The most hilarious one I’ve seen is a cop pulling someone over on the McDonald bridge, blocking an entire lane of traffic and causing a jam. I honestly believe they should do a common sense and intelligence test before the recruit anyone!
Dood! You totally trashed the ground FX on your ’95 Neon?! Bummer.
Here’s the thing, Junior. First, he’s an undercover cop doing a bust. You have NO idea what the circumstances are surrounding said bust. You ‘speculate’ that it was for dope but maybe it was more serious than that. Maybe there was weapons involved. (Hard to imagine, I know, especially here in Halifax. That’s sarcasm, by the way.) Maybe buddy getting searched threatened someone’s life. Who knows? Regardless, the cop’s in the middle of a search. You don’t mention it but I’m assuming the cop was alone. Do you honestly think that he’s going to stop, turn his attention away from the suspect and move his car, just so you can get some ice cream with a little less hassle? If he had backup, then maybe, but not by himself.
Second, you didn’t HAVE to go through the drive thru, genius. Judging by your description, I’m pretty sure I know where this took place. You even said yourself you saw the car with the lights flashing. It’s not like you turned the corner and all of a sudden, Boom! Without warning, there’s this undercover car partially blocking the lane. If you saw the car, saw that the cop was busy searching another vehicle, and even thought to yourself “I KNEW I WASN’T GOING TO MAKE IT” (those are your words, btw. The fact that you wrote this is enough to have your claim for damages thrown out of court. Just sayin’.), then why the fuck didn’t you pull off into the parking lot and walk your lazy ass into the store to get your cone? But no. You thought you’d risk it and that risk didn’t pan out. He didn’t FORCE you to damage your car. LMAO! He didn’t FORCE you to do anything, you self entitled dolt. You are the only one to blame for the damage to your car. Take some responsibility for your own actions.
Thirdly, you obviously have a hate on for the cops, even before this incident. Granted, I don’t know your past history or the circumstances surrounding previous encounters with the boys in blue. I don’t really care. But it’s really hard to believe what you CLAIM this cop said to you, when even before you uttered one word to him, you “could tell that he was an asshole” (again, your words). You claim that he just stared at you as if to say “you’re lucky I don’t beat you up and arrest you”. How he looked you right in the face and refused to acknowledge you after you asked him to move his car, ever so sweet and politely, I’m sure. (BTW, looking you in the face for 8 seconds IS acknowleding you. It’s “Are you seriously asking me this right now? I’m a little busy. Deal with it!”)But again, another reason to park your ride and walk your ass into the restaurant.
How do we know that you’re not just a little butt-hurt over a previous incident that didn’t go the way you had hoped and now, you just made that shit up in some messed up attempt to get back at the “fucking pig cocksuckers”? Here’s the thing, 9 times out of 10, if you treat people with a little respect, you almost always get it back. The fact that you immediately assumed he was an asshole, that somehow, he was able to single you out from the entire population of Halifax just to fuck up your night, leads me to believe that your attitude probably came out in your words to him. But hey, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, cuz I wasn’t there.
Finally, your argument that your taxes pay his salary and for the resources he uses is irrelevant because, hey! Guess what? They pay taxes too!
Anyway, good luck with your court case. I’d say you’re going to need it. Because you decided to post everything that happened here, it’s now public domain and can be used against you. Make sure you get your story straight.
Another reason not to put thousands of dollars into body kits and ground effects on a 1500 dollar civic.
PS – “under cover” cops don’t do traffic stops – what you saw was an “unmarked” car, used to catch body kit pricks who do nose dive decelerations when they see an oncoming white sedan… at least this way they stand a better chance of putting dumb ass ricers in their place…
Hey Randomness, a police officer involved in a traffic stop does not have to yeild to a drive-thru. If the police are doing a raid on a house and you have to go the store, do you actually think they will/have to move their vehicles for your convienence? The answer is no, and your attitude is as bad as the OB. If you did haress the police in similar situations like you have claimed to, wouldn’t that make you the bully in the situation.
methinks there might be a lot of shit, that is not being said. cops don’t normally go out of there way to harass people. maybe you shot off your lips or someone with you did. we only have your side of the story, and that is kinda sketchy
Sonic, so you agree to what the police did to my gf? (I wasn’t even there. She called me all hysterical after what happened)
You agree that he was within his limits and rights to verbally harass my gf and call her names? Including using the f-word? Threaten her by saying she better hope she doesn’t “fucking” run into him again?
If he was in the right, would he write an apology letter and would the police force actually investigate and apologize on his behalf for his actions and explain that if she encounters similar actions from him or anyone else again to contact a certain number?
Honestly I don’t think the matter would have gone that far Sonic.
As much as people like to think it’s all roses in here, it’s not.
As much as people would like to think that our police force is perfect and spotless, it’s far from it.
It’s ok to be flawed Halifax, It’s ok!
OP, since you’re so sure of yourself, take it to Judge Judy, I want to see you make a fool of yourself on TV.
he ‘made’ you damage your car. uh huh.
so if you have a hot coffee in your hand while driving, and some hot girl drives by, and you spill the coffee, hurting your wee-wee and causing you to jerk the wheel, driving into oncoming traffic, who ya gonna sue?
why…the schmuck you hit of course…. if he hadn’t been driving and in that place at that moment, you wouldn’t have hit him.
this has nothing to do with cops and everything to do with your own impatience. you have some anger issues bud. cops aren’t saints by any means, but they have good instincts about who’s a loose cannon.
I don’t think that our police are perfect, nor do I think our population is perfect. Halifax has its flaws just like every other city. I also made no comment towards the treatment of your girlfriend, or even implied anything of that nature. I made a follow up comment to your post saying that a citizen has the right of way, and the right to tell a police officer to move their vehicle during a traffic stop. That is a false statement that will add more negativity towards officers from the general public. So much negativity and bad attitudes may contribute to the officer having a bad day and maybe reacting negativly towards a situation at the end of the day. If your reaction to my post is any indication of how you or your girlfriend react to the police, then I’m not surprised you or she had a rough time.
I agree with OB…not about it being the cops fault that he scratched his car as there were other options…but with his reaction to the way the officer chose to intimidate and verbally assault him. That type of aggression, escalates situations and the police are FULLY aware of this. They have no legal right to speak to another human being in that way, no more of a right, at least, than you or I. (assuming that person is not breaking the law)
One night I was walking down town, not at all drunk, hadn’t had anything to drink. I was in a good mood. Walking past a cop I said “Hey!” In as friendly a way as I would to anyone else I was walking by in that good mood I was in. The cop says “Give me a fucking reason.” Well….no sir, you have a gun and a badge that allows you to detain me, so I guess I won’t give you a reason. I’ve also met some nice cops, who are doing the job for the right reasons.
Unfortunately, when you are an armed presence in a city and you are sworn to uphold the law, then YOU are upheld to a certain standard. When you break that trust/respect it’s more serious than when Joe Blow does it. And for good reason.
This dude who was making the bust was a narc in high school and had no friends and just hated everything. This is his revenge on the world. Good job HRP by hiring a fucking lunatic to protect and serve our city.
Great examples, Randomness. Some people think we’re not allowed to criticize cops even when they’re being miserable cocksuckers. It’s not their fault that they’re cocksuckers and their job is demanding though, according to the hard-lined conformists.
Many of the cops in HRM are morons (not all) and are uneducated, undisciplined people with chips on their shoulders. They figure since they got a tin badge and a pistol that they can do whatever. Stand up to them like any other bully prick and you watch their balls shrink when their bully tactics don’t seem to work any more.
Fuck that!!! Why should a cop, undercover or otherwise, be able to block a drive thru on private property to conduct a traffic stop? Why should a cop be able to treat someone of the general public with anything other than respect? The fact that this person chooses to have a vehicle with “fender skirting” is irrelevent. All of this seems to me to have been easily avoided, with a little due diligence on the officers part. I don’t know why people give the police (just another of many types of public servents) carte blanche when it comes to how they conduct themselves.
“Starting a bitch by stating in the past 5 months you and close friends have had run-ins with police automatically invalidated this bitch.”
LOL! Automatically? wow. Can I ask why? And more importantly how you can make that judgement with no knowledge whatsoever of the events that took place? Go east a razorblade sandwich.
“Once you said you had a bodykit on your car (lemme guess.. a sunfire? are you a member of j-bodies of nova scotia?) I lost my interest in this. “
How did I know that someone was going to say that. It’s a factory body kit. Just like the ones that come on civics and carollas. My car has no post market modifications to it whatsoever, and it probably costs more than your pathetic life is worth. Go suck Robocop’s dick
“Regardless, the cop’s in the middle of a search. You don’t mention it but I’m assuming the cop was alone. Do you honestly think that he’s going to stop, turn his attention away from the suspect and move his car, just so you can get some ice cream with a little less hassle?”
He had time to turn his back on the suspect, mean mug me the entire time I was trying to make the turn and then curse me out for a good 10-15 seconds when I got out, looked at the damages, and CALMLY said to him that it would have been really nice if he could have moved his car. If he has time to do all that he has time to move his car. I was correct in my assessment of this guy as an asshole. He confirmed it. I felt like he was baiting me big time. I didn’t curse or raise my voice at him, and it all was caught on tape. You believe what you want to believe. As much as I wanted to say more to him I didn’t respond to his words, I didn’t say ONE WORD to him even though I wanted to call him every name in the book, you know, like I would if a regular civlian cursed at me, but I just shook my head got back in my car, got my ice cream and got out of there. That’s why it all came out in this bitch.
“It’s not like you turned the corner and all of a sudden, Boom! Without warning, there’s this undercover car partially blocking the lane.”
Actually that’s exactly what happened. I guess you would know that if you were there.
“But it’s really hard to believe what you CLAIM this cop said to you, when even before you uttered one word to him, you “could tell that he was an asshole” (again, your words).”
That makes absolutely no fucking sense. I didn’t CALL him an asshole. All I did was motion and gesture and mime the question, he clearly saw me. He was standing with his back turened to the guy, 15 feet away doing nothing. What, this guy’s a mind reader? He can tell I think he’s an asshole? You’re reaching here, man. He could have at least said “no, sorry I’m in the middle of something” or shook his head, or something. That’s what made me think he was an asshole. He just gave me a really dirty look. All I wanted was some GD ice cream.
“How do we know that you’re not just a little butt-hurt over a previous incident that didn’t go the way you had hoped and now, you just made that shit up in some messed up attempt to get back at the “fucking pig cocksuckers”?”
Right, because a post on a fucking message board would be the best way to accomplish that. You’ve gotta be kidding me if you think I have time to do that. If I really wanted to “get back at a cop” I wouldn’t do it from behind a keyboard.
“Here’s the thing, 9 times out of 10, if you treat people with a little respect, you almost always get it back. The fact that you immediately assumed he was an asshole, that somehow, he was able to single you out from the entire population of Halifax just to fuck up your night, leads me to believe that your attitude probably came out in your words to him.”
If I parked in a way that made it difficult for customers to get their product you’d probably assume I was an asshole too, especially if you asked me to move it and I just mean mugged you. Rightfully so.
With regards to treating people with respect, that’s actually the whole point I’m trying to make, I didn’t disrespect him, he disrespected me, first be refusing to even treat me like a human being and answer my question, and again by cursing me out in a very confrontational manner. Not to mention he’s parked in everybody’s way and giving them death stares if they are so bold as to request that he please get out of the way.
I should have mentioned that he wasn’t really in the middle of anything, he was talking to a guy who was co operating, looking around his car, and when I asked him to move his car he was just standing there. The guy was like 15 feet behind him. He was probably just pissed off that he wasn’t able to bust this guy with anything so he was trying to provoke me so he had something to show for his trouble. He had time to at least respond to me like a human being.
Maybe I was at fault but it would have been really nice of him to at least not be a fucking dick about it, and then for him to curse me out unprovoked is completely uncalled for.
Anyone who thinks that he wasn’t out of line can do a big fat line of anthrax as far as I’m concerned. You are the reason that they always get the benefit of the doubt no matter the situation. Why can’t you be impartial? We’re all human and we all make mistakes. I have family that are cops, I don’t think they are all bad people, but the more time goes by the more it seems like way too many of them are more interested in flexing their dominance than they are helping people,
I spoke to his staff Sergent and he was appalled, and said that if what I say is true he hopes “they hammer this guy” there’s no reason not to treat citizens with respect. FUCK YOU if you disagree with that.
“hey! Guess what? They pay taxes too!”
Yeah, they also get a fucking tax funded pension, even though they make more than enough to retire comfortably. You can fuck right off with that shit.
Yeah, assholes, I am pissed off. It’s going to cost me $500 to get this fixed. Is that a crime now? You all should have gone to law school apparently, you’d make great judges.
*deletes joking suggestion that this was Tommy’s bitch*
You know me all too well FS.
I apologize to whoever I told to eat razor blades and blow Robocop
Just a little pissed off is all…
Last thing I’ll say is that it wasn’t just the drive thru, I had no other way out AND he was in the way of the parking spaces. It was either sit there for god knows how long (because he made no indication that he ever intended on moving the car, like a “1 minute” gesture or a “I’m sorry” or a shake of his head even, just a REALLY dirty look.) park illegally, right in front of him, mind you, and go into the store and then wait for who knows how long, or try to get through. I also thought it would have looked super suspicious if I had turned around and tried to leave after seeing him there, especially since, again, there was no other reasonable way out that I could see.
He left me no choice if I wanted to get out of there. And I did, because he made me want to not sit there for fear of pissing him off.
If he wasn’t looking at me like he wanted to slug me I might have been so bold as to get out of my car and approach him politely but I was honestly afraid to! I call that bullying.
If I have a chip on my shoulder I don’t think it’s big enough to notice from 10 feet away through a windshield. All I said was “can you move your car” and I didn’t even yell it at him, just mimed it in an effort to communicate with him. You don’t just give people death stares for trying to talk to you! Again, he was NOT in the actual middle of something he had left the guy to his own devices and was standing there doing nothing with his back turned to him, SEVERAL FEET away from him, then he watched me, still giving me death stares the whole time, while simultaneously doing nothing, make the turn and kept staring at me like he wanted me to make his day after I’m obviously upset that my car’s damaged. I didn’t even accuse him of being responsible to the damages and I don’t blame him for not admitting fault! That’s his right. All I said was that it would have been nice if he could have moved his car and he reamed me out.
I’m not an idiot who doesn’t know how to address a police officer, I was doing my best not to not be rude to him. Would be nice if that courtesy could have been returned.
I have clean criminal record and have worked full time and paid taxes since I was 17 and I’m 25. I don’t deserve to be intimidated for trying to get some ice cream without getting my car scratched or waiting around till this guy’s backup gets here so he can move his car 6 fuckin inches.
Come on people.
As far as moving the car is concerned, that’s debatable however treating you with that kind of rudeness and disrespect is appalling. I’m glad you went to the staff sergeant and reported the incident. Yes they have a tough job but that behavior has no defence.
Bringing your concerns to the staff sergeant was a good move, however, trying to overdrive your abilities and/or your car was not. The option to sit and wait was there, and so you’d be wasting your money and mine on a lawsuit. I wasn’t there so I’ll reserve comment on the reactions, but in life TJ, patience always pays off.
Well. Don’t I feel like a bit of a fool. TJ, man, I owe you an apology. Sincerely. I seem to be acquiring a taste for my size 10.5 foot lately.
I guess I should probably take a break from this site for awhile. In my rather immature effort to try and come across as witty or cynical or even a little comical at times, I’ve failed to realize that I’m starting to do one of the things that I personally can’t stand; drawing conclusions without knowing all the facts. (A know-it-all you could say) I apologize to you and to anyone else that I may have done this to recently. That’s not who I am in real life and I’m more than just a little embarrassed by it.
I re-read my post (and a few others of late) and I realized how unnecessarily arrogant I came across in a lot of it. Your reply sort of clued me in. I’m not too proud to admit when I’ve been a dick and I hope that there are no hard feelings, (TJ or anyone else I responded to in the same manner). I’m really gonna try and stop talking out of my ass about things I don’t have all the facts about.
Hey, avast, no hard feelings man, I know you’re a good dude and PLEASE don’t stop posting OR EVEN JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS! That’s what we do around here! I will disagree and react maybe a little scathingly to some people’s statements because I feel strongly about something but don’t feel bad dude it’s just the internet. I don’t take it personally. I just passionately disagree good sir!
Rock on. You should come to the summit
And yeah the bitch is over the top, I was just really pissed off, it’s $500 bucks and some juiced up tough guy telling me to go fuck myself.. You should have seen the parts they DIDN’T print. I’m surprised it even got posted.
you think you had it bad then t.j., if the cop sees the video, and gets your plate number, then my son, you are and will be totally fucked. i had this shit happen to me a long time ago. cops fault 1,000 per cent, and for 10 years after, i can’t even begin to tell you how many minor tickets i got. and yep, i was alone each time. they tell their buddies tommy. just to let you know that shit is deffinately headed your way, SOON.
i have not changed my opinion about OP’s overreaction in this incident. stares, looks of death, glares. “because he made me want to not sit there”. because he ‘made you’ scrape your car, because he ‘made you’ imagine all sorts of meaning in his looks at you. talk about jumping to conclusions. you decided in your own mind what he was doing, why he was there, what he was thinking. ‘he left me no choice’. add to that your hysterical, foul manner of posting and my conclusion, based on your words alone OP, is that you were, and are, way out of line. from your own words, it sounds as if the whole incident went sideways when you gestured to the cop to move his car. the ‘mime’ i believe you called it. if you expressed one tenth of your posted emotions into that mime, then i would be surprised he didn’t want to cuff you then and there. but of course, they take training to help them learn the difference between ‘dirty looks’ and physical action. eh? or they’d be mowing us all down on a daily basis. i wouldn’t want to see you armed, OP.
and does anyone record their conversations with staff sargeants who reveal personnel issues with officers to members of the public who call in to complain? i can see them giving you a number to call if you have a run in with same cop later on, i can see them making soothing noises to the caller, empathy, assurances to look into it. but to actually tell someone that officer so and so has problems??? if someone called me to complain about one of my staff, it would be unforgiveable of me to reveal any other incident that staff person had been involved in. i make soothing noises, empathy, assurances it will be looked into, and my ext to call if they have another problem. but after that, it’s INTERNAL.
if you are drinkin buds with the staff sargeant and they blab about a fellow officer’s gung ho tactics, well i suppose you would get details. but not by calling in.
i stand by my original comment.
Avast, great wisdom in that last post. It gave me the opportunity to reflect on some actions and statements I have made that maybe should have been kept to myself. And Molly, good follow up to the OB.
LOLOL! I’ll bet you’re under 25, right?
Mister Meaty if that was suposed to be directed at me, your way off. No matter what age you are you can still admit when you were in the wrong, or made a mistake. That may be something learned with age I guess. Once again if that was directed at me, you especially could benefit from some of the last posts. You are a very negative person as a whole. You make funny comments sometimes but I doubt anyone takes you seriously or puts much thought into your posts.
I suppose the police are plotting how to harass you again. I can see it now in the briefing room, “Today we’re going to piss off TJ and his friends, and let’s get More and Avast and Bro Tim because hell we have nothing better to do today”. Get real. So exactly what are you doing or hanging around with to warrant so much attention from the police?
how did I know this was tj right from the onset…
dude, you have to be known to police or something.
They all seem to be out to get ya.
Were it I, I’d sit and wait.
But I love watching Cops so…
let the others behind you honk the popo into submission.
What were you doing in my neck of the woods anyways?
Did you swing by the Tiger?
If not, you’re missing out.
I was not out of line in any way shape or form, Molly. They can tell who is a loose cannon? Wow.
A) that’s called profiling, so I guess you support that.
B) loose cannons don’t hold their tongues and go write a bitch about it, they react then and there. As furious as I was I did the mature, smart thing and held my tongue and got out of there. You think I over reacted? How? by venting on the internet? and that somehow retro-actively makes me the one who was out of line just because I was upset and used foul language? Again, on the internet. He got standoff ish with me, not the reverse. I was not rude to him at all. I gestured and mouthed to him to move his car, how much attitude could I possibly convey from several feet away? And REGARDLESS, why couldn’t he just shake his head or respond to me in some form? Why give me the death stare? Again, he was just standing there doing nothing. Fuck right off.
Newsflash people, cops don’t need the benefit of the doubt or the defense of people who weren’t there to see his actions, they are doing just fine in that regard.
Ordinary citizens need that and don’t seem to get it for whatever reason. The cop always gets the benefit of the doubt. Comments like “oh you’ve had problems with them before? You have no credibility” are seriously fucked. I didn’t say I personally had problems with them, I said they harmed my friend and my girlfriend. I was there but was not involved in any way. The fact that people draw the conclusion that that somehow says something about ME or my friends, but not the cops in question, makes me fucking sick.
I should mention that no crimes were committed nor were there any arrests made during either of these incidents. There was absolutely no need for my friend or girlfriend to get hurt, especially my girlfriend, she didn’t even see them or talk to them the cop just came up behind her unannounced and roughed her up. The officer was at least twice her size and she was terrified. She didn’t know what was happening. He dragged her on the sidewalk in handcuffs in a way I wouldn’t deem fit for an animal. She kept screaming “you’re hurting me”. Then his partner tried to accuse me of trying to harm her with no evidence whatsoever! Then screamed in my face and tried to provoke me when I became upset. Who wouldn’t be upset after being accused by a cop of trying to harm your own girlfriend? None of us could still have a job after behaving like that. He roughed up a defenseless young woman for fucks sake! She was bruised, battered and traumatized.
They get away with this because of the attitude of people like you. Like I must have somehow deserved that because I have bad attitude or some other such bullshit. I’m sure one of you fuckers will try and defend this man’s disgusting actions or accuse me of lying, like I have nothing better to do than make up stories for you guys.
I sincerely hope none of you ever have to experience what it felt like to see a grown ass man toss around someone you care about like a fuckin rag doll and be powerless to do anything about it. And then be told that you were the one trying to harm her, and then have a cop scream and curse in your face when you become upset. THEN to be told by some asshat who wasn’t there that this somehow reflects on YOUR character. Tell me that wouldn’t seriously upset you!
That’s why I am in the process of filing a formal complaint, an that’s why I’m taking the time to point out the double standards being applied by many of you. I have a responsibility to act a certain way but they don’t? Why in the F not?
Being told that because I witnessed this, now MY credibility is somehow less is offensive. I think it should reflect on the officer and the force’s recruiting practices, not on my personal character. I was walking home from a nightclub with my drunk girlfriend on her birthday minding my own business. She fell down and that’s when the cop cuffed her and started dragging her around. This is not ok and maybe they would be a little less reckless if people held them to the same standard of accountability as a normal person instead of always making excuses for them and trying to paint their victims as incredible.
Take your judgmental cop loving attitude and shove it, Molly, and anyone else who thinks its someones fault that they were victimized or intimidated, just because the offender happens to be a police officer.
To answer your question, Bro Tim, absolutely fucking nothing. I don’t think they’re out to get me, that’s not what I am trying to say at all, why don’t you stop putting words in my mouth. I dunno where you got the idea that I am getting a lot of police attention, I’m not, because I am not engaged in any criminal activity. They have been getting a lot of MY attention due o THEIR misconduct.
Like I said Z, I have no criminal record whatsoever, and I don’t hang around with criminals. I don’t think I’m known to police. I have been meaning to check out Giant Tiger, but I’ll steer clear of Fairview if I can help it.
I just went to check out the DQ drive thru. It is two lanes wide around the whole building, even wider at the back. It seems to me that you would have had ample room to do a 3-point turn and go the out the way you came in. If you had room to maneuver your car between the curb and the cop’s car I believe a 3-point turn would not have been an issue. You’ll have to correct me if I am wrong about this, I don’t know if there was also a car beside you. But in the end you were not held at gun point and forced to drive your car through, if the cop wants to be an ass he’s going to be an ass because he knows he will always get the last laugh and this time it was at your expense.
while he could have had a better attitude, parking so you aren’t inconvenienced at the drive thru is not his priority while SEARCHING A CAR!!!! sheesh, is he supposed to put the alleged offender on hold til he moves the car?
think before you speak.
I dunno kegg, I dont go there too often, but i didn’t see any other way out, it was dark. I’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to go the way you come in, it’s supposed to be all one way. And funnygirl, he wasn’t in the middle of actually doing anything, I should have made that more clear in the bitch. He was just standing there, the guy he had stopped was behind him, uncuffed, a good 10 or 15 feet away. I repeat, he had his back turned to him AND the car. He had time to curse me out, stare me down, he had time to move the car. It would have taken waaaaay less time than what he did.
By the way I totally agree, if he had been in the middle of searching a person or a car, or writing a ticket or SOMETHING I wouldn’t expect him stop what he was doing and move his car.
It’s not about convenience, I was trapped there with no way out because he was in the way and when I tried to ask him, he made a conscious effort to intimidate me, topping it off with a verbal assault after I scratched my car and let him know that I would have thought it nice of him to move his car.
I’m done.
I just want to add something else…
You say that you “mouthed” the words to him, but a whole hell of a lot can get lost in translation when you mouth words to someone. Who knows, maybe he thought you were calling him a %$#@# *&%$# &^* %%$#! I am not condoning the way he conducted himself, he could have easily explained to you that he cannot move his vehicle while dealing with a susepct rather than giving you the silent treatment.
well, no TJ. it’s not called profiling. profiling is an after the crime analysis of possible characteristics the offender may possess based on evidence left at the scene, method of attack, damages done, etc.
you may be thinking of racial profiling, which is a ‘before an offense’ disreputable method of determining if a person should be pulled over, ask to step aside, whatever.
what i was referring to in your incident is simple street sense. if one’s job involves a daily risk of getting stabbed, shot, spat upon, verbally abused by ‘taxpayers’ and run over on the highway, one develops a pretty good radar for trouble for self protection. unlike we ordinary citizens, who can flounce around in a snit because someone ‘looked’ at him.
and speaking of ‘looks’ this whole thing is getting more and more absurd. your latest comment says he was ‘standoffish’ oh for crying out loud. now it’s standoffish. your orignal post had the cop beaming rays of death at you, now it’s standoffish. sort of like a spinster librarian perhaps? lets keep the comments going, and by this evening p’raps you’ll describe his ‘look’ as ‘mincing’ or ‘come hither’ .
each time you post another comment, or even within the same comment, the details you present change. in the most recent, you said ‘i was not even involved’ in the incident your girlfriend was abused. couple paragraphs down, you describe how the cops ‘screamed’ at you and ‘tried to provoke’ you. that sounds like you were very much involved.
all this is why i just don’t believe you. you shouldn’t care what i think, i am a stranger to you, but you put it out there for people to judge, and i will.
one last comment, if you cannot control your language and comments from the relatively calm environment of your own desk and keyboard, how much LESS so would you be capable of controlling yourself in a highly charged situation. that flies in the face of biology.
yeah jeez tommy, don’t you watch fake fbi shows^^
Yeah Tommy.. there are better ones than in Fairview. It’s pretty skeezy in that neck of the woods.
That tiger’s pretty sketch though… I saw a two wolf moon sweater in there last week and almost died laughing.
I also think you showed pretty good restraint with the galpal incident.
I almost certainly would have been brought up on a number of charges.
I can’t see her doing anything that would warrant deserving that.
TJ, you forgot that you’re supposed to blindly respect cops always! They put their lives on the line each and every day; even the pencil pushers sitting at a desk to the 9-1-1 dispatchers who simply take calls. You are to show utmost respect and obey whatever they say, even *IF* (not when, because cops don’t fuck up or make mistakes or abuse their power) they are in the wrong.
^^ silly and trivial response. and don’t denigrate what 911 comm ops do. in your job have you had to listen while someone puts a shotgun to their head and pulls the trigger? a little stress to the job, i would say.
^^typical “we owe cops” response. Rhetoric, opinion, blah blah blah.
“you may be thinking of racial profiling, which is a ‘before an offense’ disreputable method of determining if a person should be pulled over, ask to step aside, whatever. “
Racial profiling isn’t the only type of profiling. Judging that someone might be a “loose cannon” when all they asked is for you to move your car (and for fuck’s sake people, he knew god damn well what I was trying to ask him, there is zero doubt in my mind) is profiling. Not saying that’s what he did but what you described is what I call profiling: Making a judgement about someone with no evidence to support it.
“each time you post another comment, or even within the same comment, the details you present change. in the most recent, you said ‘i was not even involved’ in the incident your girlfriend was abused. couple paragraphs down, you describe how the cops ‘screamed’ at you and ‘tried to provoke’ you. that sounds like you were very much involved. “
You like to focus on semantics, Molly. When I say involved I mean that I was not the target of the incident, I didn’t contribute to it, or help cause it, I was simply there to witness it. Obviously I’m not just going to stand there and watch a man, cop or not, assault my girlfriend, but I didn’t get what I would call involved.
Involved, by my definition would be if I tried to intervene, I just spoke to the guy (not the one who had put his hands on the girl, his partner) and told him I was trying to get her home safe and that they were hurting her. Believe it or not I was talking to him in a calm tone, I was distressed, but not yelling at him or being aggressive towards him, even though I think I had every right to be.
Then he raised his voice, got in my face and said “oh yeah, sure buddy, you’re just trying to get her home” as if to imply that I was being dishonest and had bad intentions. That’s when I became upset and cursed, and then he went into total Rambo mode and got within inches of my face and dared me to defy him. He just said “since you’re so fucking brave!” I just walked away from him and then told him what I thought of him from a safe distance. He got back in his van and took off.
All that is completely and utterly fucking irrelevant though Molly. Who cares how we define involved? Or whether or not I was involved. What about the cops involvement? Got an opinion on that? Don’t you think it’s their professional obligation to at least announce themselves before they rough someone up who has done nothing to harm anyone? A small young woman who is powerless to defend herself? He could have at least helped her to her feet before handcuffing her and trying to grab her BY THE CUFFS and drag her down the sidewalk. They didn’t say ONE WORD to her, just started hurting her. Who exactly were they serving and protecting in that instance? HUH? Answer me that one, Justice Molly. Doesn’t anything strike you as a little unsettling about that? I hope it never happens to you, but if it does I hope no one believes you and some asshat who wasn’t there to witness it tries to paint you as a person with anger problems who hates cops and just spends their time making up stories for a bunch of strangers. It would serve you right.
You’re right, I don’t give a fuck what you think, but I think you’re VERY biased if the best argument you can come up with is that I switched my description from “death stare” to “standoffish” wtf does that matter? And what does it matter if I was “involved” or not? My girlfriend was assaulted, bruised, restrained because she committed the terrible crime of walking home tipsy on her birthday. This was all before I became what you might define as “involved”
You’re just another head in the sand that refuses to believe that maybe the cops cross the line sometimes, and maybe more should be done about it. You’ve made that apparent by focusing on ways to try to hurt my credibility instead of addressing the cop’s alleged behavior. The fact is he took the time to, in my view, intentionally try to get a rise out of me when it would have taken him way less time to just move his car out of the way or at least say two words to me is what I find unacceptable. Whether or not he’s partially at fault for the damages on my car, I’m not sure. I’m not a lawyer. But I intend to find out.
Look, I’ll admit that I totally deserve some things that happen to me in life. When I was 19 a bouncer got in my face outside a bar and I lost my cool and hit him. I spent the night in the drunk tank and didn’t give the cops who took me down any trouble. I told them that I lost my temper and made a bad decision. I never once tried to blame anyone for my actions or the consequences. I’m man enough to take responsibility for my actions, it drives me up the wall when those who are trusted by the public can’t do the same.
“your latest comment says he was ‘standoffish’ oh for crying out loud. now it’s standoffish. your orignal post had the cop beaming rays of death at you, now it’s standoffish.”
Again, we’re arguing over verbiage. WTF is the difference? Menacing, standoffish, looking at me like he wanted to fight. I don’t see the difference. He was certainly standoffish when he cursed me out after I got out of the car.
I have not changed my story whatsoever, except that in the bitch I neglected to specify that he was NOT actually in the middle of dealing with anything at the moment that I asked him to move his car, prior to that I had seen him talking to the guy and shining a flashlight in his car, but when I was trying to communicate with him he was standing there not doing anything, same when I was trying to make the turn. His back turned to the suspect, standing a good 15 feet away from the suspect, focusing on me the entire time it took for me to make that turn, with a real dirty look on face the whole time like he wanted to fight me.
“one last comment, if you cannot control your language and comments from the relatively calm environment of your own desk and keyboard, how much LESS so would you be capable of controlling yourself in a highly charged situation.”
So I guess you’re one of these people who thinks that it’s never OK to be upset about something and voice your opinion, or that just because I use curse words my opinion or point is invalid. I am in total control of what I say. I choose to use curse words because I am upset about the situation and am trying to convey that. At least I kept my cool and didn’t use any curse words or even raise my voice during the incident, more that I can say for that dickhead cop. So based on that, you seem to want to hold me to a MUCH higher standard than the police officer. He’s the one who’s on the job.
You’ve offered no opinion on whether he may have been outside his rights or duty to yell and curse at me aggressively, but you think I was “out of line” because I came and expressed my anger in a safe, harmless way via an internet message board post. Not what I call impartial.
Like I said, I described the situation to the guy’s staff Sergeant exactly as I’ve described it to all of you and he made it very clear that that behavior is uncalled for and unacceptable and even used the phrase “out of line.”He sounded very sincere and I believed him, as skeptical as I am about the whole police investigating police process.
I’m not going to subject myself to another one of your comments until you figure out where the Enter key is Molly, FYI.
ummm enter key? you want smaller paragraphs?
TJ, all anyone has to go on here, since none of us were there, are your words. thou shalt be judged by them. when you present your case, your credibility is the key. if you do not seem credible, none of what you say is believable. unless someone just blindly agrees or disagrees based on the most cursory of readings. as i mentioned in first comment, i do not think cops are saints. i repeat, i do not find your presentation of your ‘case’ here in this forum believable. someone else describing the same situation may have caused me to think differently if they presented their case differently.
why would i, or should i take on faith/believe some stranger’s claim about an event?
what did you say on the shooting post….’you weren’t there’. well yeah. that’s the point. if you simply wanted to vent, you could have written to your mom, or in your diary. this forum invites discussion.
Obviously I don’t mind discussing it. I didn’t think a lot of people were going to sympathize, they rarely do. I’ve never been one to get my shorts in a knot because someone disagrees with me.
I just think for you to focus trying to hurt my credibility and point out supposed flaws in my story, bickering about what constitutes “involved” or “standoffish” is just you trying to mask your prejudice. You are quick to judge me but not the officers in question. I wrote some curse words to no one in particular, in my spare time an an internet board. This guy cursed at me and became aggressive while on the job getting paid public dollars. I committed no crime. You seem to think that my behavior is unacceptable but say nothing of his, because you use, in my view, extremely flawed logic to conclude that I’m not credible. It’s on tape! Why would I lie?
“i repeat, i do not find your presentation of your ‘case’ here in this forum believable.”
But you’ve given no reason why, other than that I seem to be really mad about it and called him some nasty names, and that I substituted “death stare” with “standoffish” which to me are one and the same.
I don’t like being called a liar. What exact part of it do you think I’m not being honest about, and why does it seem so unbelievable?
You also didn’t answer me when I asked whether or not you thought it was appropriate for the officer to put his hands on my girlfriend the way he did, just pointed out whatever so called flaw in my story you could possibly grasp on to, making irrelevant points about whether or not I was involved. What does that matter? What excuse would a cop have to start roughing up a defenseless young girl before even announcing himself as a police officer? And what reason do you have to believe that I am not telling the truth?
1. i cannot hurt your credibility. it’s in your hands.
2. i did not call you a liar, i did say that you didn’t present your case well, and that in someone else’s hands, it may have changed my opinion.
3. your girlfriend’s incident is irrelevant to this one. you introduced it as further evidence of cruel cops. since you couldn’t keep your details consistent in the description, i discounted it as further evidence, to me, of your inability to present some consistency.
4. your insistence that ‘death stare’ and ‘standoffish’ have the same emotional load is just nuts.
ever read the book ‘stranger in a strange land’ ? there’s a concept in it called ‘fair witness’ . i like it.
A small, young, supposedly woman could be carrying a knife or a gun or whatever. It’s assumptions like that defenseless small female that can cause the cop to be injured or killed. Most cops hate dealing with females because, believe it or not females don’t know when to quit. When a guy is arrested the vast majority of times he knows it and stops resisting, the same cannot be said for females. Believe it or not females are more vicious then men when they get agitated and start fighting.
Again 5 incidents in a couple of months is an extraordinary number, especially as you say, you or your friends don’t do anything. So are you saying your gf was just quietly standing there, doing nothing when the cops arrested her and that while that wasgoing on you you standing there and calmly and quietly talking to the other cop? Seriously? Nope there’s more to this story.
Lastly, cops aren’t social workers, shrinks, or your mother. They are there to quell the problem as quickly as possible so don’t expect them to sing Kumbiya.
Oh hay, Thomas, did you know there’s a giant tiger in dartmouth now?
It’s in woodlawn by the atlantic fabrics — just down from ralph’s I think.
🙂
PK Yea PK I think the GT in Dart. is a bigger and better one.The Dart. GT is closer to Portland St near Baker Dr.
Bro Tim just fuck off.
You can call me a liar all you want. And again, stop putting words in my mouth.
I said 3 incidents in the past 5 months, not “5 in the last couple months” but come to think of it the first one was in March so that’s more like 7 months, if I’m being honest. That’s hardly what I’d call police attention. I haven’t been ID’d by them in any of those instances so it’s not like I’d be on their radar. And I mean I’ve been living here my whole life, in all fairness and for the most part have had no problems. Call it shitty luck I guess that I’ve had 3 really negative interactions with them in 7 months. It’s not like they would recognize my face or anything.
“So are you saying your gf was just quietly standing there, doing nothing when the cops arrested her and that while that wasgoing on you you standing there and calmly and quietly talking to the other cop? Seriously?”
Yeah, asshole just fuckin read the post again ok. It’s exactly as it happened I’m sick of repeating myself.
Look, I can see skepticism when a convicted, or even an accused criminal says that the cops got out of line and violated his rights etc. But I’ve never even been charged or eve ID’d in any of these cases. Even when I approached one of them to ask for their help!
And yes, I talked to him respectfully until he implied that I was a fucking creep and was going to take advantage of this girl. Don’t you think I’d have gotten arrested too if that wasn’t the case?
I have no reason to come on here and lie to the internet, nor do I have anything to gain.
What’s your reason for blindly defending EVERY SINGLE COP IN EVERY SINGLE COP BITCH SINCE FOREVER?
ANYWAY FUCK YOU. I don’t have to explain myself to you. “You’re lying” and “there’s more to this story” is not an argument, it’s speculation. All I want to ask people like you is this. If I am telling the truth, do you think that maybe we should try and do something about this kind of behavior, yes or no?
Just answer me that, fuck all this is he lying is he telling the truth. The better question is why do you automatically assume I’m lying?
t.j., dood, let it go for now man. i could relate to you some horor stories from my past too. the thursday night specials as i now call them. if you drive a certain kind of car, wear a certain kind of duds, or look a certain way, to a lot of cops, you are fair game.
i am not the most loved by halifux’s not so finest, not by a long shot, but they tolerate me, as i tolerate them. unfortunately, we share the same planet. being an ex, i know how they can incite you, and rile up the meekest person to say or do something stupid. and by then, they are within their rights to restrain and contain you. sometimes you just have to eat shit and bear it.
i don’t know you personally t.j., but from what i get from some, not all your posts, is that you can get riled to that point, sorry to say. and what’s not to say that shit, maybe you did look a certain way to this copper, and were driving a certain type of car. i assume you still have your subie? yep, looks can be a dead give away sometimes. but hey, bright side is that you weren’t busted for anything, and insurance should take care of damage, i would guess.
Yeah Tim, the whole world’s full of criminals. Actually, everyone besides a cop is deemed a criminal in the eyes of a cop and could be carrying a weapon. So let’s treat everyone with the same suspicion and disdain. Let’s walk in there and provoke an already potentially hostile situation, cause that’s the mature thing to do. I guess when you have a whole team of union lawyers chomping at the bit for something to do, at your disposal, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
We do not live in a police state, and my (and everyone elses) rights are to be protected by the police, not walked over and ignored. For the record, police “intuition” is a form of profiling, and is not admissible in court as “probable cause”.
My brother works security and 100% of the stupid-ignorant-lording power over others types are there to get experience to become police officers. None of the normal ones, just the juiced up cock suckers who brag about picking fights downtown. Not saying all cops are like this AT ALL, but it is very telling in my opinion. Hey what’s your opinion of bill C-12 Bro Tim?
I printed this off for the white board in the break room. Currently, Molly is up a few points.
and how many of those yahoo security guards actually make it past the pysch tests to become a cop. just because they wannabe, doesn’t mean they’re gonna be.
sonic, i am laughing my head off. i want the doughnuts with icing and sprinklers on ’em.
and to be a broken record (should we dump that phrase now that records don’t exist?) i did not say, have never said, that cops are all saints.
in ‘this’ posting, for ‘this’ incident that OP described, i didn’t swallow his story because of his tone, words, semi hysteria, defensiveness. and it only slid downhill on a big pat of margarine after that. each subsequent comment confirmed (to me) my original take on the matter. and that is all we do here afterall, isn’t it? read, have opinions, make judgements, comment, share.
it’s entertainment!
I hear you, the numbers are in (I guess). 9 votes to the Good Dog Molly, 3 votes Tommyjules. One person took offence to Mr Harper being the devil, so they didn’t vote and I had to take out my whiteout pen. We have at least 20 people working so maybe the polls will change later. Also, no donuts sadly. Only when theres a conference, but I’ll grab a box with icing and sprinkles when they do.
Wether they become cops is irrelevant GDM. It misses the point entirely. I am saying that the pool they have to choose from is flawed. I assume you have an intimate knowledge of said tests?
i’d like to take one of those tests, i always wanted to be a cop. i’m fairly certain i would be red flagged but it would be fun
FS, so sorry, but since when does the police force, any force, recruit ONLY from sec guard companies. it’s not the only pool out there. the ‘pool’ is the population at large.
the ‘pool’ your brother works from may be flawed, may only offer knuckle dragging henchmen, but what does that have to do with the rest of the population? anyone can apply.
and whether or not ‘they’ become cops is very relevant. you see, if these wannabes do not make it, then how could that support the idea that the police force only recruits knuckle draggers? obviously, they screened them out. i think you would be in a good position on this, inside knowledge. ask your brother how many of the creeps actually made it into the force. could be he is just (justifiably) complaining about having them stuck there in his company because the force won’t take them.
why would you assume i am familiar with the actual tests? why would that be of interest?
paingirl, their web site say the psych test costs 650 (user pays!) but you aso have to cough up 10K for the training. ouch!
psych tests are fun! but you have to get the really good ones that you can’t fake out.
i am incapable of subterfuge
Yes GDM the public! Of course! Again you miss my point which is thay a certain type of person with a certain type of personality…within the general public gravitates toward the type of job that gives them power over others. What the fuck do you think wannabe cops do to get experience in similar real life situations? Get a job as a florist? My brother knows at least a dozen certifiable pieces of poop that are now serving in RCMP detachments all around this fine country. Now go ahead and judge m, right?e by my tone you insufferable know it all. Fuck shit cunt. Oh I swore too. Yet another valid reason to discount my point
Apologies for acting a prick, I just walked home from work in that rain. Hot tea for this G.
i doubt it’s the rain that causes your outbursts. earlier comment was pretty much the same. so the apology is meaningless if you routinely spew and then apologize for it, expecting it to erase your behaviour. reminded me of those ‘princess’ shows on tv that my grand daughter watches. lots of drah-ma.
and yes, i do and will continue to judge people on their displayed behaviour. what else, as a human being, do we have to go on? i don’t see any of us attaching character references from holy men to our profiles. so what we display here is what forms others’ opinions of us as persons.
and the anonymity of the site is a good enabler, to me, of our true ethics, self control and worth as a genuine humane being. because we can be anonymous, how do we behave? do we take advantage of that cloak to behave basely? lash out at others, use cruel and taunting terms, use all the swearing words you wouldn’t dare use at work, puff yourself up, fake experiences, looks and material worth?
or do we have enough self respect and innate honesty to present our true opinions, debate vigorously, offer authentic emotions, go off on wild tangents of free association. learn from each other, rail at each other…and without acting like impotent children when challenged, screaming POOPY! KAKA! because the argument’s holier than my ex husband’s favourite underwear.
now to the actual point you finally made. they all went to the rcmp…do you know why? did they try for halifax and fail? do you think the rcmp has lower standards? city cops i have know always say they have higher standards than rcmp, but i have only known a couple rcmp guys, and it sure seemed that way to me. not that they were violent or out of control, they were both dweeb-ish, and yes, maybe the type that had been picked on and wanted the power of the badge to ‘get back’.
Ugh, your whimsical musing writing style does little to conceal your obvious arrogance and rigidity. I often see you dismiss people’s opinions in the same fashion. To clarify, I was not saying I was sorry for what I wrote to you, just giving an apology for the loutish way I presented myself while doing so to anyone who is reading these. You are still a know it all. Not sure what other outbursts you are talking about though. Are you from St. John New Brunswick? I feel like you are.
That’s SAINT John, Furious ;).
TJ coulda been getting that ice cream for his lovely lady while she was slaving away at work, ya never know ;).
I often enjoy your posts, Molly, but the ones in this thread remind me of a scum-bag criminal defense lawyer that argues on behalf of vermin by saying their victims don’t have the “correct” facial expressions, family background, or attire that victims are “supposed” to have. Believe it or not, there are in fact, crap cops out there. They fart around and mutter about how awful the Charter is and how it gets in the way of their “work”. Then, there are the good ones.
There is one cop I’ve dealt with that I’ll never forget… just a lowly responding officer. He was probably younger than I was (I’m 22), and he had to take an awkward and upsetting statement from me. He made sure to ask if he could come in before just barging into my home. He said he hated how “busy” he was with accounts like mine. He wasn’t complaining, just wished we didn’t have to meet this way. He apologized for the “blame-y” tone of the questions he had to ask and wished they were changed. He wanted me to be comfortable and told me I didn’t need to sit in an uncomfortable chair right in front of him. He said he didn’t mind if I sat on the couch and played Angry Birds or cried into my kittteh while he asked me the questions. We had an iPhone vs. Android conversation. He was very careful with the words he used and turned off his walkie, which kept buzzing every 2 seconds. That is everything a cop should be, right?
The higher-up investigators I talked to after were very patronizing and even took the liberty to pass along a message of remorse and an apology from the accused. Seriously, fuck THEM. How dare they give HIM the final word and the satisfaction of closure, while I walked back home empty-handed, drenched in sweat, dazed in the rain, almost getting hit by cars because the lights at the intersection meant nothing to me. He’ll never feel like that.
I just hate when people blindly defend a certain group.. I know it’s hard to accept the positive image we have of someone can be just a facade and we were fooled, but don’t keep fooling yourself.
Holy shit it’s 3am.
I just think the reasons you’ve given for doubting my version of the events that took place are completely asinine, Molly. I think you’re lying when you say that if the case may have been presented differently you would have possibly believed it. Let me test that theory:
Long story short, I pulled in, saw him there, ordered. By the time I pulled up he was done looking in the purp’s car, standing with his back turned to him several feet away, hands by his sides doing nothing. I motioned to him to move the car, he just stared at me in a way that I would describe as menacingly, also sometimes known as the death stare. I felt intimidated and felt that if I waited there for him to move it that I was at risk of pissing him off and getting on his bad side, I started the turn to try and make it through, scratched my driver side rocker panel, also known as a side skirt, looked at him, noticed he was still very focused on me, his expression becoming more and more menacing. I made the turn, barely making it past his car without hitting it and got out to assess the damages. The officer was still looking at me in a way that made me feel as if he was trying to bait or intimidate me, I was very upset but wanted to be very careful to make sure I didn’t lose my temper, I took two steps toward him, which put us at a distance of about 10-12 feet apart and he also took a step or two towards me. I said “it would have been really nice if you could have moved your car” he responded by telling me very loudly and aggressively “don’t fuckin look at me, why don’t you learn how to fuckin drive, that SUVs way bigger than you and they made it through” he kept talking after that, I don’t remember exactly what he said but it included at least one “fuck” and “get back in your car”
I shook my head, got back in my car, paid for the blizzard, obtained said blizzard told the attendant what had just happened and drove off. I also will admit that I yelled “fuckin asshole” through the sunroof of my car as I was driving off.
Believe me now?
One more thing. You were the one who brought up the prior incidents like the one involving my girlfriend as a reason to doubt my credibility, but then later you said that that particular incident was irrelevant to the more recent one at the drive thu. Can’t have it both ways Molly.
Does anyone else see any major flaws or inconsistencies in my story?
Cops are walking mind games. Many of them go way too far trying to stir things up to see what comes up from the bottom of the pot. My story is too long but similar to this one. It involved my neighbors in EP thinking I was a drug dealer because I worked nights and came home at 5 am (they didn’t believe that welding had a night shift!)+ single income on a property. RCMP are just as bad. I got thrown into the drunk tank sober and they searched my house illegally. I can’t prove it but it’s either that or someone decided to break into my house that night and organize through all my stuff leaving it 3 times more organized.
They must have found pay stubs because they let me out of the tank after about 8 hours before everyone else (including one other who was definitely sober).
I have no proof that they did but man the pieces fit pretty perfectly.
BRO TIM …You heard they are coming after me Too ! ! ! SHIT ! They must have heard about my mobile methamphetamine lab, that I have disquised as a brown delivery truck , Damn !
IT was fuckin’ perfect too, I would even stop periodically to pick up supplies & or make deliveries… even used pretend delivery’s to drop off boxes of garbage …its tight quarters in that van guy’s & you can’t just throw junk out onto the streets . Hmmmm now I’m going to have to come up with a new disquise for the lab …. maybe a charter tour boat …. or a fish & chip truck , they are only opened at lunch time , I could use afternoons, after its closed to pretend to prepare for the next day … yeah that’s got possibilities ~;p
tj, your latest version just doesn’t get any better.it STILL relies on what you THINK the cop was thinking. you reacted to what you perceived what going on his his mind. not actions. you didn’t react to what he did, but to what your mind was making up.
here is what seemed to have happened, from what i can get from your post
tj drives into fast food drive thru lane to get food
a car is partially blocking the rest of the drive thru lane
tj believes he cannot make it through the space
tj does not ask the driver of the other car to move it, but makes gestures at him.
tj becomes afraid when the other driver looks at him
tj decides to drive through the space anyway and damages his car.
tj gets out of the car, stepping towards the other driver with sarcastic remarks
other driver steps towards tj and swears and tells him he is a bad driver since other car(s) made it through the space
tj drives away, swearing out his window.
tj says he will sue the other driver for forcing him to damage his own car.
now something that puzzles me is why you got out of the car and stepped towards someone who had so frightened you that you were willing to damage your vehicle to get away from him? you said it yourself….’i felt intimidated…if i waited for him to move his car i was at risk of pissing him off’
are you crazy? if someone scared me that much i sure as heck wouldn’t get out of my car and step towards him. if it had been anyone OTHER than a cop, would you have dared? some guy in gangster gear? some lumberjack guy?
and to anyone who has claimed that i am blindly supporting cops, please re read or read this yet again. i do not. it is just this one posted incident that i am having trouble swallowing. and it’s not because of his language, his racial background, how he dresses or what size shoe he wears ( i have no clue of any of that) it’s because it just strikes me as ridiculous. if someone else thinks it makes perfect sense to blame someone else for their own stupid decision to damage their car, fine. fill yer boots.
and yes, i sure have taken the same position with anyone else who posts some bleating, whining, self pitying, self entitled tripe and expects tea and sympathy for it.
the original post should have been titled ‘what was i thinking?’
Maybe the cop did read your personality better than you thought TJ. You did yell fucking asshole at him as you pulled away. I do agree that it sounds like you got the shitty end of a shitty situation, I was not there though. The one bit of advice I try live by that applies to this is, sometimes you have to be the bigger man and walk away. It sucks, but in situations like this it may have resulted in a more positive situation for you. I’d rather walk/drive away then damage my car. I understand your somewhat aggravated at the situation, but when someone approaches me hot headed, insulting and cursing I tend to put doubt into what they’re saying.
But that’s different Molly, now you’re getting into who is at fault for the damages, and whether or not I was justified in feeling intimidated. Obviously that is entirely subjective, but as far as the events that took place you STILL have not pinpointed what it is you think I’m lying about, or presented any solid evidence to support your theory. Yes, I did dare to say what I said to the officer, that it would have been nice if he could have moved his car. It’s on tape and I have a witness. You don’t sympathize with me, that’s fine, but DON’T call me a liar. You are tiresome.
A personal attack in the form of a poem:
Clickety-clack she goes
In love with the sound of her own keystrokes
She has no time for shift keys when heaping disdain
On the shiftless.
The man-stink of her ex husband ever present
Turning her smug half smile to a frown.
His undergarments pierced, not unlike his dreams
Were you called out as an actor? A thespian?
When he found out he had married a lesbian?
THAT is what I would describe as an outburst.
Sonic, that is exactly what I did. I walked away instead of arguing with him. I feel perfectly justified in calling him an asshole because he treated me like one. He cursed me out and gave me extremely dirty looks. If I had any other way out of there that I could see I might have taken it. If you’re gonna say that he judged me correctly because I cursed at him while driving off, you also have to concede that I was correct in my assessment of his personality being that he got vulgar and confrontational with me FIRST. In retrospect, yeah, I should have waited for him. But why can’t you see the flip side of that coin? He had plenty of time to move his car, and that put me in a situation with 2 options, try to make it through or hold everybody behind me up. He was also very quick to become aggressive with me, when I was doing my best not to be rude to him. That’s why I’m mad.
and you, tj, are obtuse. i have not called you a liar. and i am starting to turn a bit blue in the face repeating myself.
yay FS! my weakness, let’s do limericks next!
an outburst, no, i wouldn’t say
(unlike rain rain please go away)
a childish poem but nonetheless
a effort made,
amused
i will admit
to laziness and arrogance
no shame when earned
but what of it?
a shift-less key, my life for me
and no one else.