I have almost 10 years of experience in waiting tables. I’ve been doing it since I was 18. My experience was clearly stated in my resume, and this prompted you to call me for an interview. Great. You asked me a few questions on the phone about my availability, my experience, etc. Then you wanted to meet me in-person to go into more depth. My interview with you was very brief. You asked a few short questions and looked me up and down, then called me an hour after I left to tell me that you were pursuing other applicants for the position. Didn’t state why, you didn’t have to. I’m a little on the heavy side and I’m almost 100% sure that’s why you didn’t want me. You seemed thrilled before until you laid eyes on me. Then a few weeks later one of my acquaintances got hired on as a waitress, with NO EXPERIENCE, and guess what, she’s SKINNY! You are a fucking pig—hiring people based on looks over skills. I can understand that you want your staff to look presentable, but I dress up and do my hair nicely and have a pretty face and that should make the cut! So what if I’m a size 12! Am I wrong to think this guy is a total prick for not hiring me because of my size? —In Search for Jobs with Less Ignorant Managers
This article appears in Apr 28 – May 4, 2011.
This sounds like a job for… the Nova Scotia Human Rights Commission!
You seem like an intelligent person OB so if this is true then why not contact the Human Rights Commission? I’m not feeling my usual pricky self this morning so I’ll even provide you with the link – http://www.gov.ns.ca/humanrights/
If you’re not in N.S. then I suggest you contact an office in your area.
Good luck!
A size 12 isn’t that “heavy.”
Any clues as to where this place is so I can boycott?
Restaurants are usually packing in as many tables as possible in tight quarters. There isn’t room for large servers. I can’t stand being bumped into by servers bussing tables behind me while I am trying to eat and you would no doubt be bouncing around bumping into things at your great size. Perhaps you should take a couple of months off and dedicate some time to yourself to re-evaluate what you are doing with your life and why you have let your body go at the young age of 28. Change your diet, go to a gym, go for a walk. CHANGE NOW. Or you will die of a heart attack before you are 50.
The truth is in front of you and you are ignoring it.
I’m with PK. Hints please OP – the manager’s conduct is unacceptable and we’re pretty good at subtle clues.
“at your great size”
A size 12 is not a “great size”
Go suck on a blue waffle, if not for you.
Size 12 is hardly obese – methinks the manager is a pig on the lookout to get his tail uncurled.
Go to hell I.N.F.O., size 12 isn’t fat and it’s certainly far from obese.
OP, give us hints about the place.
And I agree with MMM, go to the Human Rights Commission.
10 years waiting tables? I think it’s time for the OP to get a university education and a career.
I could be entirely wrong about this, but I thought that that’s generally the way most sit-down type restaurants hire servers (which doesn’t make it any less shitty).
This is an example of a women size 12-14:
http://www.skinnyvscurvy.com/wp-content/up…
Hmm… THIS is considered a “great size” with a risk of a heart attack by the age of 50?
HAHA. You fucking hoser. I know someone skinny as a rail who just had a heart attack a month ago! This is someone who walks every day for 2 hours, too and eats healthy foods.
This board could do with a lot less people like you, INFY.
jees pk i think i just got my penis back after Ivans post earlier.
Is it Bruins pizza they usually hire girls like that, then after they get too old they end up in a call centre.
DAMN YOU PRETTY KITTY!.
If anybody needs me…..
(finish the line for me, anyone)
i’ll be in my bunk^^
Unfortunately, in some areas, looks are important and do matter. You don’t believe me? Open any magazine, ad, etc and it is virually all “beautiful people”. Why? Well that’s simple, beauty sells. Is it fair? No, but it is reality.
Either that, or it was some jack ASS place.
..I agree with BT..rest./club owners have put alot of money into these places and it should be up to them who they hire ..and if looks/size is a criteria well so be it, human rights can bankrupt your bus. faster than food poisoning..
te he. was it soon to be target? i’m sure you can apply there..
p.s love the milkshakes there
I sympathize with OP but you don’t wanna work for a place like that anyways. Ppls can hire whoever they want at the end of the day. I don’t see how her human rights were ever in jeopardy.
I’m sure with your experience you’ll find work somewhere that wants you for who you are not just how you look.
At the end of the day his business may well fail if he hired inexperienced workers.
Guys, I was told I was being replaced once because they were going to hire a guy for the job because a guy would be more “capable” than a female in the position.
No fucking word of lie. THAT’S what HR told me. I’m not exaggerating!
THAT is a human rights violation.
I believe what happened to OP was VERY VERY shitty, esp since size 12 isn’t fat at all, but I’m just laying out the reality that I don’t think fat people are protected under human rights legislation if memory (from my studies in employment law) serves me correct… could be confusing it with someone else — it’s been a while, but I’m pretty sure obesity isn’t seen as having its own set of human rights like race, gender, sexual orientation,e tc… has (probably because it IS something that is theoritically controllable — just like being fat isn’t a disability like some fatties tried to claim a while back — which is just insulting to people with actual physical disabilities that oh they can’t ever change! ugh)
And no, you don’t want to work for someone like that. I had a related experience last month (wasn’t based on size, based on some other complicated factors), which, in the end made me realize I didn’t want the job after it was offered to me and ended up staying where I am. Salary isn’t as high, but I just couldn’t work for those people on principle.
As a former server I hate to say it but alot of establishments do tend to hire 50% on looks.When I lived in Ontario my sister worked at a certain Philthy bar and she informed me that when her boss interviewed people and they didn’t meet a certain criteria he would throw their resume in the trash right after they left.Its sickening I know but what can you do really unless you are “sue” happy and want to make a living doing that for each place that didn’t hire you based on looks or size.All I can say is hold your head up high and be thankful to not work for a place that rather hire based on looks then skill.
I just remembered how I was passed over for a job at a bar and they hired what I shall call a buxom blonde and well lets just say noone had nice things to say about her cause she didn’t have the experience and would forget who ordered what and so on and so forth.
McNasty’s? 🙂
A size 12 is considered a “great size”? Good grief.
IFNY, you’re an arse.
Thanks PK, that size 12 is pretty damm hot.
Does this “restaurant” (roll eyes), happen to have an owl as a logo?
If you’re trying to attract a certain crowd, you want attractive waitresses. It’s not a coincidence that some place have all attractive hostesses/watresses, even waiters. There are plenty of places who want to attract patrons who care only about the level of service, not what the person providing said service looks like.
Have you tried hotels OP? I hear you can make great tips as a server or bartender in hotels, I worked front desk at one for a while.
didn’t that place burn down sir hugo?
(con’t) They had ladies of all shapes, sizes and levels of attractiveness. I could see them not wanting a 300 pound obese person walking around their dinning room, shaking the tables as they walk by, taking up all that space that’s supposed to be for the patrons, but size 12 girls shouldn’t be considered too big to wait tables. But like I said it’s a free country, people can hire who they want.
Yeah, well I’ve heard stories of restaurant managers at some bars/restaurants around halifax who like to bang willing servers after the place closes.
One place, i heard (maybe it was on here that I heard it or somewhere else, I can’t remember) had a manager who would regularly fuck the servers after closing on the pool tables.
He probably didn’t want to fuck you, OP because he’s probably into fucking bags of bones, and that’s why you didn’t get hired.
lol pg, I wouldn’t know, I went there exactly, one time. The food sucked so I never went back.
Off topic – bullshit or real?
http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_apr2011/Sma…
It’s obviously fake as the website calls itself the “Largest Source of Internet Humor!”. 😛
It produces 700 times more energy than a conventional battery
Bullshit.
Yuppers Martym….lol.I went there only a few times with my sister and I swear the servers/bartenders all looked like her…blonde,blue eyed and buxom….every single one of them…
yep, get hold of human rights, or some such outfit.
Fucked on a pool table – now, that’s class, folks.
Again, LS: I don’t think weight is covered under the human rights legislation.
TTFN: I know THAT’S my ultimate fantasy. *eyeroll*
*shudder*
I didn’t find that all the Hooter’s waitresses looked the same. Some were blonde, brunette, black, white, asian, shorter, taller. I do believe they all had fairly large breasts though, however my friend who at the time had small breasts got hired, but quit because she said the training was an absolute joke.
I’ll take my cue and get the balls rolling on this one:
Choosing a sexual orientation is the same as playing snooker: in both cases you got to choose between an easy pink and a tight brown.
http://www.internet-snooker.net/snooker.jp…
That location has burned down time and time again, first it was the Hub Too, then Club Onyx or something like that, then Hooters. That area really is quite seedy. I lived there for about a year.
I mean any neighborhood that has a porn shop AND a sex shop/piercing/tattoo parlour, AND A strip club and not one but TWO fried chicken joints, a McD’s AND a BK AND a DQ, AND a huge liquor store to top it all off.. probably isn’t the best place to open a legit family friendly business. lol I used to crack up on my way to work, I took the bus back then. Before I got to the bus stop I had to walk past the porn shack, through their parking lot actually. They were always busy lol.
It was a fun neighborhood, but my apt was an absolute shit hole, but all the fun stuff do do within walking distance? You were never bored! And there’s that brand new 24 hour Sobey’s right across the street. That being said I got the fuck outta there as soon as possible.
Size 12 is yummy, in my book, if I have the right size in mind. Plus, there is usually a little more rack up top so win/win. Most guys I know think models in Vogue et. al. look gross. That being said, Bro Tim is right; if your biz caters to guys that like a size 6, size 0, whatever, then that is what they will hire. As a server, if you said you were size 24 I’d almost understand just due to the space in most pubs, but a size 12? This seems unfair. It says in many Federal job descriptions that the job is specifically intended for a minority, which as far as I am concerned is discrimination. Most of us are keyboard jockeys now, so color and sex means squat.
Devil’s Advocate: Maybe your friend does a better interview. I can talk to my boss 1-on-1 but can’t talk to more than 2 people without a complete tongue-tied stammer.
I don’t really see anything wrong with having sex when the place closes at night PK… yeah it’s nasty if the managers are screwing a different girl every night, but don’t you find it fun/exhilarating having sex in a public place where there’s always a slight possibility of getting caught? But, I agree with everything else you said… size 12 is hardly obese, but at the same time, they do have the right to be selective over who they hire.
Ya, how would you ever prove it’s because of your weight they didn’t hire you? Maybe you said something that they just didn’t believe in during the interview? Or felt that you might not fit in for other reasons. It sucks, I know, but hey, you’ll find something great elsewhere, especially since you have lots of experience.
i think i wanna go to pool halls more often now.
my feet are size twelve
Oh whatever OP, you’re not even fat and you’re convinced that they didn’t hire you because you’re supposed fatness? I don’t buy it, “I’m almost 100% sure that’s why you didn’t want me” almost 100%? Hahaha. You actually have no idea why they didn’t hire you, it could be anything, maybe you have bad breath or are super annoying. Maybe they hired the other girl because she had a connection there, you don’t know. She’s just an acquaintance, how much could you possibly know about her? Oh right she’s skinny… well that certainly proves it’s a conspiracy against fat people! My mistake. You’re obviously insecure about your weight as well as upset that they didn’t hire you and are just letting that insecurity feed into your baseless speculations.
Size 12? You’re not fat! Ugh.
lol damn PF, showing the board your more adventurous side today.. You’re certainly not a shy gal are you. I’ve never had sex in public myself.. or at work. Some day..
gotta get an avatar tommy boy^^and naveed etc. it took me a year
I actually am kind of shy haha… but, I’m just saying what I think.
PF is cute too.
Sex in public isn’t a bad thing…screwing the probably married boss who’s bangged have the staff would be the bad thing miss fire. There’s a lot of slimy managers out there.
OP size 12 isn’t fat so I think you may not be as pretty in the face as you think….jk. Maybe you should try another place…good luck on the job hunt.
hay^^mamab
Yeeeeeeah OP, you’re such BS. Size 12 isn’t fat. You have no proof that they didn’t hire you because of your body. You’re just mad because you think you should’ve got the job and didn’t. Maybe they hired the other person with less experience because they can pay her less, did you think of that? No you didn’t. You just immediately jumped to the conclusion that it’s because of your weight because there couldn’t possibly be any other candidates better than you. Git ova yo self.
Size 12 is VERY fat. It actually makes me sick to think about it. Anything bigger then size 6 is unhealthy. Why would restaurants want obese people working for them?
Go to the gym. Then maybe someone will want you representing their brand.
Ew.
Bullshit Bitch Lover,
Size 12 is the smallest of the plus sizes, it’s not even close to looking noticeably overweight and certainly isn’t obese by any stretch of the imagination.
Also, while I’m still up,
“Anything bigger then size 6 is unhealthy.”
Wrong wrong wrong. Health isn’t determined by what size you wear. Obviously being overweight is bad but defining that as anything above a size six is painfully ignorant and idiotic.
So much in fact, that I’m wondering if I should even be explain this. You sound like a troll looking for a rise out of someone.
I worked at the place where the manager was banging the waitress on the pool table. What happened was we had a staff party the night before, and anybody who has worked in the boz knows, these get crazee. So anyway, this particular manager was a bit of a coke fiend but thats neither here nor there. So anyway, the salad bar setup lady comes in the next morning at 6 or 7 am to find them going at it on the pool table in the middle of the lounge. Theres additional stories of him then chasing said salad lady around the tables etc but I don’t know if that is true or not. Dude was a bit of a greaeball, the best was when his wife showed up on his (or her?) birthday with 3 kids in tow but he had already split that evening with his favourite waitress…
RC: exactly. Boss is probably married and banging a different server every night. That’s what’s gross about it. Being banged on a pool table after closing would be kinda hot — just not with slimy mcmanager.
Snoop: afaik, 12 isn’t even considered a plus size. Plus sizes start at 14 in most clothing stores/lines.
So that’s what those stains are.
gives a whole new meaning to rim shot timothy…sorry folks http://www.petpeoplesplace.com/petstore/pe…
Oh really? I heard it was size 12 and up. Maybe it was because I was reading it in an article about plus size line in fashion week, you know that world when anything above 0 is too fat to be on the runway.
Either way, neither sizes are all that fat.
If your size was the reason shame on the place but we only know the OPS version, maybe your just not the skill you think you are, an if you are that good you will no doubt find a better place to work. Like some said Why would you want to work at place like that anyroad.
“Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”
Apparently this restaurant owner needs glasses.
How ’bout we pluck his eyes out with pencils instead?
I’m a size 2 and I would never work as a waitress because I know that their success (tips and otherwise) depends 80% on their looks and 20% on their personality.
I would rather scrub toilets than wear those spandex shorts they wear at the sports bar in town.
Yuck.
What sucks, snoop, is when you’re apple shaped and you fit into a size 10 pants in the legs, but not in the waist because all your weight is there 🙁
Part of the reason why I have pants, to be honest. I can’t find a pair that looks decent on me besides lulus.
May first is the official start of skirt and sandal season. I need my spring pedicure so the sandals are going to wait, but fun casual skirts and dresses on weekends? I THINK SO!
THE FEMALE BODY
Reflecting on the posts (which I’ve just finished reading) I think we can bring philosophy to bear on the underlying issue, that is, the female’s obsession with the female body. It is time, in other words, to theorize the female body.
The first point is that is IS a female obsession. By contrast, the male is not obsessed with his own body in the same way as the female, assuming he is not a narcissist. Rather, his attention is directed outwards, towards the female body for obvious reasons. His motives are unambiguous. But the female’s obsession is not so much with the body of the male – her attention is on his other attributes however defined – but rather with her own body. But why is this so?
I think it all goes back to the roles in sexual reproduction. The male is the active participant. He is the one who penetrates. He is the yin in the yin/yang equation. The female, by contrast, must ATTRACT the male and she must do this by means of her body. She is the one who, in order to complete the copulative equation, must be penetrated. Her role in copulation, while essentially passive, is nonetheless crucial.
However, and this is the important point, this biological need to attract the male has become “fetishized” in the mind of the female. Her physical appearance has become an integral part of the female psyche but her appearance, in her own view, is not directly connected with the sex act. The fetishized biological need to attract the male, in other words, has “floated free” from its strictly biological function. Weight, dress size, fashion and so forth have assumed an independent standing in the female psyche which have very little to do, if anything, with pro-creation as such. One often hears of a female describing another’s appearance as “stunning.” (Think of Kate Middleton in her wedding dress.) However, this does not suggest lesbianism. It simply means that females who call another female “stunnng” do so because the “stunning female” manifests the fetishized qualities which best exemplify the female’s psychological obsession with her own body.
Thank you for your attention and concern.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
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Leave it to MM to analyze the joy out of the female body.
I’ve worked in a lot of restaurants around this city and it’s true, most of them hire on appearance. Is that unfair? Yes. But we cater to the public and most of the public don’t want unattractive people touching their food.. Most places would go out of buisness if the costumers caught a glimpse at the kitchen staff.
haha too true http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FO8ftD5sIb8/S2tl…