To the fat-ass fucking twunt who so rudely bitched behind me for taking up too much room;

Perhaps you should be staying home and eating a healthy breakfast, as opposed to chowing on fast food. That way you wouldn’t be fat, and having these unpleasant exchanges.

So then Newsgal, the poster doesnt have a right to complain about rudeness because he or she happens to be fat? Nice!!!

“I wouldn’t want to come off as hypocritical as you do””(And I’m fucking HUGE)””as I was leaving the Sackville McDonald’s this morning.”Hmmmmm…should I? BAH, WAY TOO EASYJust wanted to submit the idea that maybe the person said the EXCUSE ME because they were bumped when they were in their seat…out of the isle and sitting. If I was bumped while eating by a really HUGE person while at McDonald’s and the obnoxious self-involved fat-ass didn’t say sorry or pardon me, I would be rude right back as well.Before anyone gets all up in arms about the obnoxious self-involved comment…how can the OP NOT be exactly what I just called them? Look at the surrounding facts: Obese (OP own admission) @McD’s 1st thing in the morning, possibly bumping people who are trying to eat their breakfast (a crappy one but breakfast none-the-less) and not saying sorry or excuse me. Sounds pretty much like an obnoxious, self-involved fat ass to me! 🙂

No, I’m not the type.But I am the type who eats high-fibre cereal, or fruit, or yogurt for breakfast – not McDonalds -in order to maintain a healthy body weight. I do this not only to feel good about myself, but so that I may be considered “attractive” in a society that values fit, healthy bodies.

newsgal sounds like the all-to-frequent type of HRMer. I suppose you’d also blame someone whose car got stolen as deserving it since they owned a car or someone’s house getting broken into as also deserving it because they own a nice place.Fuckin pathetic is a nice way to describe you, blaming the victim for being verbally assaulted.

Actually, Poop, I’m 5’3” and weigh roughly 120, give or take a pound. I wear size 4 pants. Nowhere near “a deuce and a half”.And for the record, ex-Haligonian, I would never in a million years criticize someone for having their car stolen or house broken into. You can’t control something those things. You can absolutely control your weight. You start by avoiding McDonalds, eating lots of fruits, veggies, and whole grains, and incorporating physical activity into your daily routine. It’s not rocket science.

Uhhh stood his ground, what by bitching anonymously instead of getting in the dudes face? No, I am pretty sure if he had been completely innocent then he would not have kept walking and left, only to come on here later after his pride started stinging and he bitched about it. I am fairly confident that the OP most likely bumped into the dude or his food…which prompted the guy to say something about it. Do you seriously think that it was just out of the blue with no instigation? If so then why did the person choose the words EXCUSE ME, it seems that they are usually prompted by some action not appreciated and not excused…and a lot more likely than the guy just saying EXCUSE ME to some random person just to be rude as you suggested.It’s pretty easy to say pardon or sorry after bumping someone and if you can’t; you are an obnoxiously self-involved but not necessarily fat-assed person. Add McDonald’s breakfast into that equation and you can also add the fat-ass.

I wonder to what extent the OP is getting dragged through the mud for simply being at a Sackville MacDonald’s in the a.m. because we all know we’re sooooooo much better than that!Fucking Halifax is so bloody snobby

“but you already did at the table you were sitting at” Seems to me the “bitch” was sitting down and it really seems highly improbable that the person just said something for absolutely no reason. Reasonable deduction would lead one to justifiably believe that the person was interfered with in some way; be it accidentally being bumped or her food brushed by with the edge of a coat or something.

Good point on the past-tense but I still don’t think that the EXCUSE ME was completely out of the blue…there has to be more to this. I find it highly unlikely the person just said it to be rude for absolutely no reason, the OP may have felt there was no cause but he also might not have noticed elbowing or bumping the person when they got up to leave, or maybe he was standing in the way getting his coat on or SOMETHING. We have only what the OP says happened and it doesn’t add up…assuming it was not instigated by absolutely anything is a long shot.

I would never take someone at their word when they speak like the OP did…”fat-ass fucking twunt””fat assed self””(And I’m fucking HUGE), I wouldn’t want to come off as hypocritical as you do. /Bitch. “The guy is the definition of a hypocritical ass-hole, all we have to go on is what he has presented in the bitch, and how he presented it. Yes; he was obviously upset when it was written, hence the ridiculously foul language…but the hypocrisy is flagrant and yet denied in the same sentence. He contradicts himself, which generally is not a good sign of someone telling the whole truth…and I definitely get the feeling that we are being misled about the whole ordeal.

Just wondering, ‘Newsgal’, if you ever get the occasional craving for not-so-healthy food. Have you ever eaten at McDonalds, perhaps while on the run, such as when helping a friend move, or maybe during a road trip??? For someone so smug, you’re making the all-too-common but ignorant assumption that all obese people are such because they constantly gorge themselves on fast food! You’re a newsgal afterall, shouldnt you know better than to make this simple-minded assumption?? This thread is full of them! Arent you, of all people here, suppose to have the ability to look beyond the surface of things, instead of jumping to ignorant, narrow-minded assumptions about people? Hmmm, guess we wont be seeing you as an anchor on Aljazeera anytime soon. And by the way, I also prefer healthy eating. I am 5 foot 4 and weighed 113 lbs prior to pregnancy. Now that I am 5 months along, I weigh a healthy 120lbs. Like you, I prefer to maintain my attractive appearance. Although luckily, I do have genetics on my side and my parents gave me the right foundation for a positive outlook on life. It’s not so easy for everybody.

Newsgal: size 4 pants? Maybe you could use an egg mc-muff.

Why not hate on the fat ? They are just as big a burden or even more of a burden on the Health Care System as Smokers, and they are hated. On top of that, they spawn ‘fat to be’ kids with poor eating habits. Fat people and their sicknesses caused by fat are jamming up the HCS. Did you ever read the damage being obesity causes? Long wait times, expect them to get longer as society gets larger. Tax the Fat !

Wow, NMH, you’re reading way too much into a silly handle. Other than the nickname I’ve chosen, what do you know about me? I should “know better” and “look beyond” because of my screen name? So should we assume that poop is, in fact, a pile of feces? No, probably not. Again, just a nickname.Sure, I get the occasional craving for unhealthy food, although it’s fairly rare that I act on it. I value not only my figure, but my overall health too. Eating high-fat, high-calorie, high-solium meals makes me feel gross and sluggish for the rest of the day.You don’t get to be “fucking huge” by indulging in the occasional treat. You get that way after years of pop, chips, fried chicken, poutine, etc.And poop, thanks for your concern, but I don’t need a McMuffin. I’m a size 4 not only because I eat well and exercise, but because I have a small frame too.

Aye, no worries! 🙂

When I buy jeans, I buy a 27 inch waist. I don’t think that’s a size 10 in any country…Regardless, at 5’3” and 120, I’m thin by just about anyone’s standards.

I agree entirely Lori..While I do think that newsgal usually has interesting conversation points; Under this topic… your coming off conceited and rude. I would never want to be a size 4. I love having big ol’ hips!

Actually Newsgal, no. I don’t think I was reading too much into your handle at all. Judging by the information you provided on Jan 17th’s ‘No News is The Best News’, I figured you were a journalist. Here are a few of your quotes:’Television stations make their money on advertising – that’s it”Televisions have ratings periods twice a year, in the spring and in the fall. Information is gathered regarding how many people are watching during any given hour’.’The advertising department of a station then uses those numbers to set their commercial prices. They would…’Silly me for being so presumptuous!

Thank you for the information Newsgal. Gee.. I had no idea tv stations employed anybody other than journalists! Come to think of it, it WAS pretty dumb of me to assume you were a journalist…your snooty, narrow-minded opinions hardly pointed in that direction, afterall.

Wow, this went severely off-topic. Is it some kind of stress-reliever to pick each other apart?

Newsgal, your reply to the OP in the bitch came across as ignorant, snooty, and mean. This is a bitch column, afterall, so I responded. And no, your views didnt seem narrow-minded and snooty because they were different to my views, Newsgal, as maybe you’re starting to see.

I think there is danger with the type of attitude presented by the person on CBC (couldn’t find the clip, going on newsgals words) and to some extent newsgals attitudes that are leading to the ammount of flak she is getting on this thread. That danger is that people who are not overweight or obese (and it’s important to remember the distinction between the two) start to blame fat people for thier condition, in the same way smokers are blamed for their health problems. This blame may or may not be justified, but what it does is create an “us versus them” attitude which is not condusive to solving the problem. Overweight people whose healt is at risk do not need ridicule, they need support. The more isolated they feel as a group or individuals, the more likely they are to maintain poor eating habits and give up on programs dsigned to help them. Also, that attitude fails to acknowledge that some people have genetic reasons for a larger body type and provides no sympathy for this situation by labelling all fat people with the same negative bias. Finally, developing an attitude that fat is bad supports the already prolific and unrealistic idea that “thin is in”. There is a very broad range of healthy BMI’s that allows for healthy people to not fit the media-enforced “ideal” (which given her last post newsgal does not seem to be guitly of). These healthy individuals are at risk of being labeled as “guilty” and “not caring” for their body, which they shoudl by all rights be able to love for what it is. Obesity is a clear problem of huge (pro)portions (couldn’t resist the joke) in our society. Fat people and skinny people know this. Losing weight is hard and takes commitment…and the “gloves are off” method that gets some fat people skinny, is NOT going to work for all fat people. So be considerate of fat people. You don’t know their situation. You don’t know how they are managing thier health, and it is not your business to judge anyway. (oh, and I wrote fat insted of the more PC “obese/overweight” because it is fewer letters, not to be inconsiderate)

I’m 5’4 and i wear size 7 pants. Is that ok by your standards, newsgal, or should i be following a healthier lifestyle?

Lori, I don’t aspire to be a size 0. And at a size four, I’m not rail-thin. I do a fair bit of weight training, so I have good muscle definition. As I said, given my frame and bone structure, which are very small, being a size ten would make me overweight, but not necessarily someone else. Given that I have no idea what kind of body type you have, I couldn’t say whether you’d be overweight at 5’4” and a size 9.I realize that I have a different opinion on the issue than others, yet I still think it’s possible to state my beliefs in an adult manner, without name calling or slinging mud.Newsgal you are pathetic! (Lori)Fuckin pathetic is a nice way to describe you (ex-Haligonian)

Maybe you ladies should get some PJ’s and pillows and settle this old school. Settle down or someone is going to choke on a furball.

Lori, its not only “crack whore runway models” who wear size 0. There are many petite people who don’t starve themselves and wear this size- even 00 (which is a stupid number), like myself, and yes I have flab. The point is we all come in different shapes and sizes and being healthy is what counts. Newsgal, last I checked, a 27 in Europe is a size 10- does that number freak you out or something? I wear an 6/8 over there and have pants from Asia that are size 92, but the point is that ultimately these numbers are irrelevant. In highschool, I wore 4/6, now I can fit into a 00 but I’ve gotten bigger and about 10 pounds heavier since then. Sizes are just a marketing ploy and in no way an indicator of someone’s health.Having worked retail, I never understood those people who would come in, hold up a pair of pants and bitch, “fuck anorexics who wear size 0”, if I was in the mood, I’d point out that there’s a big difference between someone who is 6ft. wearing it and someone who’s 5’3 and that a 0 is what a 4 was not too long ago. Bitching about people’s size is pointless and caddy. Bitching about small people being anorexic is just as pathetic as bitching about big people being pigs!

I am officially bowing out of this argument. I certainly never meant to end up explaining/defending my height/weight/pants size.As I said in my last post, my point is that obesity – 95% of the time – is a choice. If you’re already fat and you start your day off by eating fast food crap, don’t be surprised when it leads to unpleasant exchanges with other fat people who are miserable too.

I disagree that obesity is a choice 95% of the time. Does anyone actually think people choose to be overweight? What about all of the disorders that can lead to obesity- mental and physical? Not everyone is blessed with extraordinary willpower or great genes- does that mean they choose to be fat? I don’t think any owerweight person desires to be coddled: that is a very patronizing assumption. What they need is a strong drive to change habits and address any physical or mental health issues- which is really easy for people to point their finger at and tell them to do when really, none of us have any idea what goes on in the lives of others. Or what about acknowledge that some people may be very satisfied with the way they are and in fact can be very fit, despite appearing heavy like a friend of mine who runs marathons. For people who are morbidly obese, there is usually an underlying psychological issue that led them to be in the state they are in. For someone to assume its simply because they are being coddled or lack willpower is very ignorant. I have a cousin who is the same height as me and weighs 3 times more. The last thing I am going to do is assume I know why she’s so heavy and judge her for it because I don’t think I have that right, unlike some people on here.

I AM SO ANGRY AT EVERYONE BECAUSE IT’S FEB 29. I CAN BE ANAL ONE DAY EVERY 4 YEARS , RIGHT?… just kidding 😉

what’s with this OP bit? aren’t we talking about fat people? if Annie can use the word skinny, why not fat? It’s like naming a job position for washing toilets Sanitary Inspector. The applicant still know the job is cleaning smelly toilets (WC, loo, whatever).

Mrs C, That choice can be very tough for some people when they have 30 years of bad eating habits to break and constant bombardment by the media to consume shit food. And If lynn is talking about Obesity alone, as opposed to people overweight or packing an extra few pounds, I think she is probably right….The majority of really big people probably do have a physical or psychological reason contributing to their girth. The mosjority of overweight people (lets say 10-50 lbs over their max BMI. the numbers are out of my ass BTW) probably just victims of lifestyle. Either way though, I think unhealthy weights are a social problem, not a medical one. Society supports and promotes consumption (of goods, services and food) and many people fall victim to it in various ways. Some end up fat, others end up poor, others end up addicted to drugs, or electronics or Britney Spears. So I don’t think it is really fair to point fingers and blame at fat people for being fat. It is up to society at large to stop setting our citizens up to fail.

Let me clarify a bit MrsC because I think I agree with you for the most part. (BTW I also checked out the CBC thing the other day too, thanks for the link)When I said we shouldn’t blame or judge fat people for their situation, “blame” might have been the wrong word. I used it to imply the negative connotation of blame as in an accusatory way. I think it is important for society to recognize the various factors that contribute to obesity and not just label ALL fat people as “lazy, unhealty, weak willed, etc etc.” Fat people DO need to take responsiblity for their weight, whether they are victims of poor lifestyle choices or genetics. It is thier health after all. It is also important for the rest of us (as a society) to set up a supportive environment for weight loss, not an accusatory one. Despite all the facts available about healthy eating and the need for exercise, there is still a huge conflict generated by mass media which promotes unattainable body types and fast food lifestyles. That is socially irresponsible with an obesity epidemic going on.But I agree, if you are the one who is fat, only YOU are going to get yourself to a healthy weight. The skinny people of the world can do their part by not being assholes and hurling insults. You are not going to shame people into being thin without promoting eating disorders, especially to people who may find comfort and refuge in their food. Consideration is all I am really promoting here.

Oh and another thing, Mrs. C… I know exactly what it is like to have a MAJOR change in diet and as a matter of fact, it does take an extraordinary amount of willpower.

Since you know so much about the problem of obesity, Mrs C, why don’t you go write a book on the subject? What a know-it-all!

Oh well then!! A degree in nutrition from the Mount!! I guess that really does make you an expert, then! Like I said, maybe you should write a book, you expert, you!

NMH -At what point did I claim to be an expert? I simply pointed out that I do know something about this particular field – I spent four studying it.And I’m sorry, is an undergraduate degree from the Mount not up to your standards? I guess you attended a much more prestigious institution?

I just read all these comments and have one thing to say.NMH, shut the F$#* up already!

mmm..terek’s! I love mediterranean.

If its that easy, maybe you’d like to explain why people struggle with obesity?

They struggle because they continue to choose packaged, convenience, and fast foods over the healthier alternatives.And because they aren’t active enough.

Mrs. C, why does the poor have higher obesity rates?

Where did I imply that an education from the Mount wasnt up to standard? I just find it hilarious that because you have a degree in nutrition, you think you know it all about the problems of obesity. Why dont you get a masters of pyschology and an MD, and then come back to us?But first, maybe you could answer Lynn’s question, and then also tell us about the correlation between people who have been molested as children and adult obesity. Did your degree in nutrition teach you this?? What would you recommend to these folks? Let me guess: ‘Eat an apple!’

First you think I’m mocking Halifax for being pathetic (in the other bitch), now you’re convinced I’m mocking the Mount. So you’re obviously paranoid too. I was mocking your smug tone, and the fact that you think you’re such a fucking specialist in the area of obesity, not because you went to the Mount. But nice try!! And if I come across as a bitch to you, well that’s alright with me because I think you’re an idiot.

Mrs C…if you read my posts you’d realise my opinion is not “don’t worry, it’s not your fault you’re fat – blame it on anything else but yourself”. I do not “coddle” fat people (as you so kindly put it) because I am not a patronizing, judgemental person. You are unable to (or refuse) to answer my question regarding poverty and obesity yet you are quick to say that being fat is a choice. I really hope your degree wasn’t that narrow minded and its just you.No, I do think fat people need to be coddled. I think fat people should speak for themselves regarding their experiences and the barriers they face toward healthy eating… be it willpower, choice, money, access, education. Some may be perfectly happy the way they are and that’s ok too. My point is, I hope you are not in a position where society thinks it has all the “right” answers to a “problem” you may face one day. I imagine you wouldn’t like people to point at you and assume they know all the answers to your life the way you are doing here!

Isn’t it pretty obvious that Mrs C just had it with your sarcasmShe’s a lot wiser to know when she is talking to a brick wall of a huge bitch. kudos Mrs C

I know all kinds of educated fat people. I also know tons of rich fat peopel. How do you explain that???And how come all of a sudden people need to provide some sort of credentials to have an opinion on this board???

ya, agree. like we’re all here to be judgemental on bitchers,and we’re acting as an authority of all topics.so we better be ready to back it up. we are all fully-certified BITCH ?

there, my credentials (new avatar) lol