Why the hell did you have to beat the shit out of each other?
I was at the a bar on saturday night, celebrating a friends birthday, the night was great, until we left.
Myself and the birthday girl were outside waiting for our friends to get their coats so we could go home. In the 10 minutes between leaving the bar and our friends emerging, you immature little pricks started a huge brawl in the parking lot…over petty insults.
I saw 3HREE(!!!) guys, all of whom were trying to break up the fight, get laid out, one in particular was very seriously injured due to one of the jackasses punting him in the skull 2-3 times.
To the little blonde dip-shit with the fucked up teeth, in the blue dress shirt, I hope you get run over by a snow plow!
Because of the state of the guy that your friend dropped, I felt compelled to call 911. Then because i did that (it WAS the right thing to do) we had to stand outside for almost an hour giving a police report, a waste of time, because I’m sure you little dicks didn’t get charged with shit.
I just don’t get it…what is fighting going to prove?
A BIG thanks to the two ladies who tried to break up the first couple of fights, and to HALIFAX REGIONAL POLICE for responding so quickly! Thank you for getting there before things got worse!
—erinknowsbest
This article appears in Jan 7-13, 2010.
Gotta love those drunk dumbfucks…. But, please, please, please don’t spell Three with the number 3 in place of the T. You devalue society by doing that.
Were you surprised drunk ass dip shits at closing time – actually started fights ? Theres such a thing as calling 911 – reporting the shit and declining to give your name so you can carry on .But yea – that might have been a shitty time – so with ” your right ” to call 911 – you also had “the right ” to waste your hour .
You do realise that you were witnessing natural selection at work don’t you? You see in our “Safety” crazy society we interfere with natures way of weeding out the stupid and genetically shallow individuals. We have all of these ridiculously obvious DANGER signs all over and fences to keep the lemmings of the World from getting too close the very edges that are there to help maintain the complexity and depth of our gene pool.
They put signs up at Niagra Falls indicating that you should, under absolutely no circumstances, hang from the outter edge of the railing, hanging out over the massive drop. I am sorry but if you are that fucking stupid than you might as well do the World a favor and just jump.
Those morons were only ensuring that they helped other morons out of the pool before they themselves found the ladder out of the kiddy pool (shallow end).
Next time just let the lemmings do what their instincts are telling them “GET OUT OF THE POOL!!!!”
Happens all the time and the reason is quite simple. These neandrethals are too ugly and stupid to get fucked, so they figure the next best thing is to take their frustration out on some poor innocent guy. Usually, these ugly fucks travel in groups because they do not have the balls to confront anyone on their own. In fact,it is probably also this lack of balls, coupled with the ugliness, that prevents them from getting laid.
I used to work evenings and would get out just after 1am or so…
frequently coming across a pool of people in parade square rooting on the next two knuckle-draggers as they prove how little we’ve tapped into evolution.
never understood it, though I’ve also never been in a fight with someone I didn’t know or like.
Never said it was my “RIGHT” to call 911, I said it was the “RIGHT” thing-to-do…
Also, I should note that YES I was suprised to see a fight outside the bar I was at, have been there MANY times and have never witnessed a fight there, ever.
As for the “lemmings” comment, it’s one thing to let them beat the shit out of each other, but another to knock out someone who was being a good samaritan and trying to help…and yes, I realize that some of you may think that it’s his own stupidity for becoming involved, which I can understand, but you can’t blame him for trying to be a good guy..
I agree entirely with bobby33…heard almost the exact same statement from another bystander who heard the instigating insults
dumbasses + skanks+alcohol+audience= serious beatings on someones ass often the nice guy or girl; do not get involved you can’t win
Good samaritan? Mind your shit and those things won’t happen to you . Unless your a kickboxing expert – mind you shit – people getting involved in fights that aren’t theirs – in my opinion – – get what the deserve . Don’t be stepping into shit like that – unless your a cop or peace officer – you don’t have no business getting involved . Period .We’res thres booze – theres fights – because some people can’t handle their booze . What the fuck was that doing wasing into a fight that wasn’t his anyways – he shoulda called the cops like you did . Even if you didn’t say it was your right – that it was the right thing to do , you still called – therefore don’t bitch when the heat wants to hear your version . Call and leave – thats what I would do .
just another savage saturday night in halisucks.
“but you can’t blame him for trying to be a good guy…” I don’t blame him for trying to be a good guy. What I do think though is that he was likely a member of one of the two groups; so if that was the case doesn’t it make him also a neanderthal, I hear they only travel in packs…ergo one of the lemmings, he was just getting out of the pool in a more well intentioned way.
Der AS much as I can agree to your statement , Well intentions brought to a fist fight in whatever way usually ends up with a punch in the face . Ever watch a two man fight turn into a brawl because of all the do gooders? Noone knows the intention – and then you have a brawl . I been to many – trying to help a buddy out of a fight and ending up fighting myself . As for buddy that called the heat – good enough nothing wrong with that . I just get abit irked his main bitch it seems was the hour talking to the heat . He – , afterall – called the cops . If you spent longer then an hour in any society you’d know they want to hear your statement.
I was fortunate enough to witness something similar lats year in Moncton outside a bar. Same scenario. 5 idiots who were too homely to get laid in the bar decided that there was “power in numbers” so they started mouthing off to a guy who was having a smoke. Smoke guy ignored them until one of them came up and pushed him and the fellow cavemen came running over figuring that 5 on 1 were pretty good odds. What they did not realize was that smoke man had a black belt in something (I do not know that for a fact but after watching him, there was no doubt in my mind). He proceeded to kick the shit out of ALL 5 neandrethals, then went back to having his smoke. Yes, there is justice.
“I was fortunate enough to witness something similar lats year in Moncton outside a bar. Same scenario. 5 idiots who were too homely to get laid in the bar decided that there was “power in numbers” so they started mouthing off to a guy who was having a smoke. Smoke guy ignored them until one of them came up and pushed him and the fellow cavemen came running over figuring that 5 on 1 were pretty good odds. What they did not realize was that smoke man had a black belt in something (I do not know that for a fact but after watching him, there was no doubt in my mind). He proceeded to kick the shit out of ALL 5 neandrethals, then went back to having his smoke. Yes, there is justice.”
Nice fake story man.
Bruce lee didn’t die thats a lie !! He’s alive and well in moncton!!
To DER – The good guy was not part of their “pack”. I know him and have seen the pictures of the aftermath (tons of stitches and various shades of purple). He was actually out by himself that night and foolishly felt the need to try and help. Maybe next time he’ll let the idiots kill eachother.
I tend to agree with Der . But that is unfortunate for the dude thou . Even if he ” shouldn’t ” have jumped in – the results are the same . There is a good reason why you shouldn’t get involved in things like that – his injuries being one .
Well then I feel for the poor guy, he made a dumb mistake but his heart was in the right place. It’s funny in a way, some drunk people make irrational choices that lead to fighting or one-night-stands etc, other drunk people make irrational choices like doing the right thing – at the wrong time.
Tell your friend I hope he heals up quickly etc. but suggest next time just calling the cops annonomously, or letting the morons help each other out of the pool.
Hog: I completely agree…I have seen and been involved in far more than I care; it’s one of the primary reasons I don’t “go downtown”, I tend to stick to quiet pubs and leave before midnight (after which everyone starts to slowly turn into a pumkin). The quote from How I Met Your Mother seems to fit well in these situations “Nothing good ever happens after 2am.” I say it’s generally midnight that the odds start to shift…there is still opportunity for fun to occur but the closer you get to 2am the worse the odds are.
I have a chipped tooth, funny knuckles and more scars than the average person…most of them earned from disregarding what I now know. Doing the right thing after 12 midnight generally leads to trouble. Avoid the whole thing by staying well clear of intoxicated people…they are not sane or rational.
Hali: I lived with two 2nd degree black belts (Uchi Ryu Karate…spell?) for several years, these guys were no taller than about 5’5 and just about the nicest people you could ever meet. They could have easily decimated a large group of people in a matter of minutes should the situation truly require it.
When I say decimated…I really mean it (and you can capitalize that word and still not accurately describe what would happen).
ah karate… the most useless of the martial arts.
When they told me to start blocking a kick by dropping my arms, I was outta there.
It’s all forms and no combat practicality.
I think that’s why you can get a black belt in under 2 years….
karate.. ppfffffffttt.
That’s funny…tell that to this guy:
http://www.guzer.com/videos/pimp_ko.php
uh, a single forearm shot to a crazy, retarded pimp..
I’m thinking anyone could have done that.
now this guy… he’s a gem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEtIoGQxqQs
“a single forearm shot to a crazy, retarded pimp” ok…you try. Make sure the results are the same though…complete incapacitation even after a few minutes. Do you notice how short a distance his arm actually moves?
“crazy, retarded pimp” Most would say that is when you would need the most skill in order to walk away without a scratch (in fact not even touched by the crazy, retarded pimp).
Buahahah I remember that vid, pure awesomesauce but there’s no way to verify the guy earned any belt at all…many say they are black belts, many are not.
Also those forms you speak of, they are called Kata’s, here is the accurate description of what they are used for:
Kata (型:かた) means literally “shape” or “model.” Kata is a formalized sequence of movements which represent various attack and defense postures. These postures are based on idealized combat applications.
Some kata use low and wide stances. This practice develops leg strength, correct posture, and gracefulness. Vigorous arm movements enhance cardiovascular fitness and upper body strength. Kata vary in number of movements and difficulty. The longer kata require the karateka to learn many complex movements. Diligent training and correct mindfulness lead to real understanding of combat principles.
Physical routines were a logical way to preserve this type of knowledge. The various moves have multiple interpretations and applications. Because the applicability for actual self-defense is so flexible there is no definitively correct way to interpret all kata. That is why only high ranking practitioners are qualified to judge adequate form for their own style. Some of the criteria for judging the quality of a performance are: Absence of missteps; correct beginning and especially ending; crispness and smoothness; correct speed and power; confidence; and knowledge of application. Kata with the same name are often performed differently in other styles of karate. Kata are taught with minor variations among schools of the same style. Even the same instructor will teach a particular kata slightly differently as the years pass.
To attain a formal rank the karateka must demonstrate competent performance of specific required kata for that level. The Japanese terminology for grades or ranks is commonly used. Requirements for examinations vary among schools.
Personally I am a brown belt in Judo and that’s more than enough for my safety.
Oh I’ve read extensively on Karate… actually I’m an orange belt from ages ago when I used to be picked on. they stopped not because of my ability to defend… but because of the insane workouts the sensei made me suffer through. I know we’re a small group, but there are full grown adult brownbelts panting and weasing… a kid all of 12 can’t handle that….
an instructor he was not… a trainer, indeed.
and yes, I’m sure I could clock buddy. a neck shot with any decent pressure like that would do the trick. In fact, I would predict (though there is no possible way to prove any of this) that my 5’4″ wifey could lay a guy flat with one shot.
The guy is raging at you with his arms down…
he’s worse than glass joe!
anyways, yeah you can chalk it up to big talk or internet annonymity or whatever… I know I could and I’m pretty sure most people could.
Also, I do love Judo. very rugged and quick. Employ those fast-twitch fibers as much as you can… judo and jiu jitsu are where it’s at for me.
get a good hip toss and spider-monkey the guy into an arm triangle.
Glass Joe (Nice Punchout reference!!) hehehehe
“but there are full grown adult brownbelts panting and weasing” Sadly that is me presently…climbing out of the pit I have let myself go to is harder than I thought.
I always wanted to try a little Jiu Jitsu.
zZz…I’m sure most people COULD lay a guy out like that…the benefit of the training is that they learn how and have the confidence to know that it will work. Without the training are you going to know what to do? Or worse, what to do if you miss?
I’ve tried Judo and Karate before, but Aikido is my favourite. I never got very far in any of them because I moved around a lot, but I definitely took something useful from each. I’ve never really been in a fight but this one time a little kid took a swing at my nuts and I totally put him in an arm lock out of reflex. And yes, I felt like a big man picking on a little kid. 😛
Anyone who thinks that 1 man could lay out 5 men at once, regardless of their training, is a fool.
It just doesn’t work that way. Think about it. You’re looking at 20 weapons vs 4 weapons.
It’s not like in a movie where the bad guys attack one at a time. If 5 grown men all attack 1 grown man at once, it’s over.
Oh and karate has been proven over and over to be more or less useless compared to most other disciplines.
Unless the 5 grown men are drunk….then it’s 20 poorly coordinated weapons against 4. Unless the drunks are also ninjas then the guy’s dead. Only ninja can kill ninja.
(I love AskANinja btw… so thanks for that)
I agree that the training gave confidence… I mean I’ve seen some of those poor and pathetic street fight movies (with the hot girls dancing as spacers) and you really just wonder when all the flailing will be over.
Think of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5saxGib7o
but still, I think the pimp was destined to fail from the start.
Who said anything about “At once” and if five people did try and attack all at once it would be a gong show…you’ve never been in fight have you hali? When 5 people attack someone it generally starts with one guy launching the attack and then another guy gets physically in contact with the target, the other three are usually in a semi-circle behind the guy getting jumped dropping an occasional shove or punch but mostly just close for when the target falls so they can all start kicking him. You break an arm or two and the fight is going to lose alot of steam fast.
I would also like to see you go against a certified black belt in Karate…show us all how useless it is. As I said earlier I am a brown belt in Judo and I would still be very cautious in a fight with one, some of Karate’s techniques may not be transferrable to a street fight…but if you aren’t careful you are going to be in a world of hurt pretty god-damned fast.
I think the most useless martial art is Tai Chi, then it may be shaq-fu…oh and Gymkata (remember that one??? Most Lame Karate Movie EVER, dude combined Gymnastics and Karate…oddly there was an awful lot of bars and beams for the dude to kick ass and spin with….), all kidding aside: No martial art is useless and someone without any (martial arts training) spouting off about the worthiness or lack thereof is not someone in a position to really say so.
I know for a FACT (personal experience) that if you are attacked by a group of people (and you have no escape route…which is what you are taught to do first and foremost…avoid a fight if at all possible) and you make the first guy scream like a five year old that has just been drop kicked by the lead striker for Manchester United…the rest back the fuck up fast.
Der- You are so wrong.
I was going to respond to your rambling bullshit, but a few points:
“I would also like to see you go against a certified black belt in Karate”
I said Karate is useless compared to other disciplines. Go back and read it again.
“I think the most useless martial art is Tai Chi, then it may be shaq-fu…oh and Gymkata (remember that one??? Most Lame Karate Movie EVER, dude combined Gymnastics and Karate…oddly there was an awful lot of bars and beams for the dude to kick ass and spin with….), all kidding aside: No martial art is useless and someone without any (martial arts training) spouting off about the worthiness or lack thereof is not someone in a position to really say so.”
I hope you enjoyed writing those first few lines of horseshit? Anyways, karate is useless. Look at mixed martial arts (since you’re an expert apparently?), how many good karate fighters are there?
Answer – 1. Half of the reason Machida has the hype he does is that he is the only fighter that practices karate as their primary discipline and has made it work.
“I know for a FACT (personal experience) that if you are attacked by a group of people (and you have no escape route…which is what you are taught to do first and foremost…avoid a fight if at all possible) and you make the first guy scream like a five year old that has just been drop kicked by the lead striker for Manchester United…the rest back the fuck up fast.”
Yes, because every group would attack using the exact same method. Great logic lol, sorry you got jumped and are forever bitter about it.
1. I would like to try grappling with a karate master… that would be fun, if not a learning exercise… I exceed at grappling rather than strikes.
2. I agree it’s not the best to have… though shaq-fu has got to be worse!
I still have the CD that came with that game… Stand and Deliver FTW
3. dog pile would stop almost anyone… even 5 wimpy 100 pounders could smother a heavyweight. then come the kicks…
4. tai chi and kung fu seem pretty useless as well. haven’t really read much on them but david carradine’s moves didn’t seem all that intimidating…
Bitter? Sorry but I am not sure how you got that impression, also the reason I understand how a group behaves in a fight is because I have witnessed and unfortunately been involved in a fair number myself (as well as having ACTUAL martial arts training, how about you?).
Horseshit? I suppose because you watch Ultimate Fighter you think you are an expert? I personally never said nor implied I was an expert…I have an ample amount of experience in real life street fights though, and if I am to watch a fight series on TV, it would be the K series fights, not something hosted by Joe Rogan. Also…that part was meant as humor…note the “all kidding aside”, what I said after about someone having no training or exerience…well that’s just not horseshit and only someone that was talking out their ass would think it was.
I don’t think Karate is the be all to end all (or I would have chosen it rather than Judo) but I know that it is far from useless…this Machida you speak of would likely agree.
Sorry that I pointed out you have no matial arts training (that you have mentioned at least)and no real life experience except TV, I didn’t mean to upset you, but you have to realise that it is pretty common for a group of attackers to follow the lead of one individual first before things get heavy. I never said that is how it happens every single time…but it does ALOT. The times that it doesn’t usually involves an ambush with the intent to harm that specific individual over something personal (it’s been planned out)…or it’s the Police trying to arrest you.
“david carradine’s moves didn’t seem all that intimidating…” what about the one where he hangs you in a closet naked…oh wait.
When I was a teenager I was into the boxing scene. I grew up with it in my family, where several of my uncles & my dad were boxers. When I went for Karate training at around 18 /19, & they kept trying to get me to put my hands down , about a month into learning the stretches & exercises, I moved to sparring/training . The first person who tried to use a high kick I stepped inside it & introduced him to a right inside hook to the jaw.(sometimes called an uppercut…
After we got him back on his feet, this red belt assistent/teacher asked me “what was that ?”
That’s when I knew karate on TV was just as fake as everything else, you see on there.
You want to take out 5 guy’s all at once..get a shotgun or a automatic pistol & know how to use it.
“Use a shotgun” Buahahaha yup that would take 5 guys out all at once, well…maybe two shots. TVMovie martial arts is pure fantasy, but Karate itself is far from useless…just as with every martial art. Heck I am sure if someone sped up Tai Chi it could surprise a few people, though I wouldn’t be putting any bets on the Tai Chi fighter…
Der- 2 things:
1) You “assume” I have no training. The same way you assume that all groups attack in the same manner. The fact that you can’t recognize some of the most skilled mixed martial arts fighters is sad though. I know you’re trying to put me down by saying “you saw it on tv”, but that kinda fails… did you ever think that a martial artist could be a fan of watching other mixed martial artists in action?
2) I can understand how you’ve been in a lot of fights. I can see how the way you ramble and make statements without backing them could piss people off.
We’re done.
1)”no matial arts training (that you have mentioned at least)” No assumption is saying you have not mentioned any…so you are a little off the mark on that one.
2)Being able to name Ultimate Figher participants does not make one knowlegeable in martial arts.
3)You keep implying I have stated that groups attack in the exact same way every time, when what I have said is that groups generally are susceptable to human behavior…one will begin the attack and the rest will follow.
4)You were done before you started hali, as soon as you started using Ultimate Fighter as an example of an actual real life situation where various martial arts are or are not applicable. UFC occurs in a ring, with rules. Like “no intentional breaking” “no kicking while the opponent has a knee down” “no striking the back of the head, neck or spine” “no grabbing the fence”.
I never said Karate will turn you into a hero that can take down 5 guys at once…you would have to be a 500 octopus to do that…what you can do however, with most martial arts is turn the odds towards your favor a little more. You CAN stop a fight against multiple opponents if the first guy goes down hard (and painfully), or it can give you precious seconds to escape while they are deciding if they should push it or pick up their screaming friend and go. Though that is not exclusive to Karate or any martial arts…of which you have still not indicated that you have training in.
Good luck with your cable tv degree in pit fighting by the way.