Stop applying to our positions that require 5+ years of experience. When we ask for that many years, we mean it! I’m sick of getting dozens upon dozens of applications saying “I just graduated from _____ college and I’m applying for the _____ position…” Our company doesn’t hire newbies to the workforce. It’s a busy place and we need people who know what the fuck they’re doing. None of you would last a week with us! We don’t have time to train people from scratch. I’m sorry! It’s such a waste of time for me to read these resumes. Read the job ad and stop sending me your crappy resumes. There are plenty of places out there willing to hire students and new grads. Piss off! —Sick of Newbies Applying
This article appears in Jul 19-25, 2012.
annd it’s this kind of attitude that is driving all the young people out West…not everyone needs 3-5 years experience to do a job well. Most young people now a days are pretty adaptable and quick to pick up on new technology, programs, etc so training would most likely be minimal. They come with a fresh perspective and new ideas. Not to mention – the pay scale for someone with 5+ years is very different for someone just starting their career – so you could be getting a quality employee and saving the company money in salary costs. The hiring staff/recruiters of this city need a awake up call, honestly.
The people with 3-5 years experience just won’t exist in this province in a few years. (anyone that reads the news knows this is true – that is why the NS gov’t is pushing so much for increased immigration) SO, you’d better invest in more training or start taking chances on younger professionals if you want your businesses to keep thriving and growing. Or keep this outdated, and frankly prejudiced, mindset and watch your businesses fail.
It’s great that you have a job, but some of us are recent graduates who are on the verge of resorting to food banks/homeless shelters.
So, thanks for your bitch but I think we will keep applying to every job that is remotely related to our fields.
Go fuck yourself, OB.
Imagine a world where ALL employers adopted an attitude like yours…The unemployment line wouldn’t be so pretty now, would it? Where do you think a person gets experience asshole? You sound like a self-righteous, arrogant prick excuse for a boss to me anyway…I pity the people who actually make the cut!
Where are these places willing to hire students and new grads?? Care to let the entire province know, you miserable, out of touch, HR jerk?
I agree with the ‘miserable, out of touch, HR jerk’ comment. I am a boomer, and OP et al, you had better start gathering ye rosebud grads to your bosom right smartly, because as we boomers start dropping, your busy-busy business will grind to a halt. Fresh blood!
You know, super’s right. In 5-7 years when all these employers are looking for people with 5-7 years experience, there’ll be none because OH HAY! They’re all out west or in onterrible.
I guess the joke’s on you mr dumb as shit hiring manager.
Are you for real OP? Who cares if they are a recent graduate ….. they could have had 15 years experience doing plenty of shit that you could never comprehend and returned to school for a career change…… what a cawnt you are …… how do you keep your job? Wait until your stellar CV crosses my desk …… half of Hali would hear my shredder burp after eating that piece of shit you would think it was another Halifax explosion!
How the FUCK are people supposed to get experience with this kind of attitude?
MY oh my, pretty kitty seems to have a burr in her ass. But don’t let that deter you from being so judgemental of everyone and everything.You as a few others here, need professional help as soon as possible. Hezz, yes, this is the real world and what employers do think. No experience, you are screwed. Take it from one who has been on both sides of the fence, for too many years.
Ummmm, everyone else is saying the same thing as me, so why are you singling me out?
Jerk.
Also: I have a sneaking suspicion, “get stuffed” is suckers.
He’s disguised himself well with the non-raping of the comma, but the rest of the writing is too familiar.
Hah ha. Life must suck for the Suckster.
Typical douchebag employer, understaffed, and what staff you have is likely overworked and underpaid. It doesn’t matter how much related experience a person has, every job is different and requires at least a minimal amount of training, which woul be the same for an experienced worker and someone who is qualified with little experience. Perhaps some anger management classes would do you (and likely your family) some good. Good luck with being the asshole employer noone really wants to work for. By the sounds of it, you, as an established business, with all employees having more than 5 years experience and a good reputation don’t look for employees, they have a waiting list. No talent assclown!!!
Though I understand some of OB’s message it really irks when these employers think the job is so difficult and can’t be learned in a timely manner, jeez you’re not performing surgery.
And hay, if they have a waiting list, why is this jerkwad wading through job applications for job postings?
High turnover, bud?
I agree with what you said, SHITTY, 100%.
This guy’s just an piece of dick shit who probably pays entry-level salaries and that’s why they’re getting entry level applications.
And newsflash: if you’re doing the hiring it’s your JOB to wade through applications. However many there may be. Before you judge go-getter university graduates, PERHAPS you could, oh, stop being an overall shitty employee and, oh, DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.
OB, curious about something … if/when the times comes that you, a human resources *PROFESSIONAL*, seek employment … will you disclose in your potential employer during the interview that one of your strengths is your ability to go to an online message board complaining about the job applicants that would like to work for them? I’m sure that would be of great benefit to their corporate image.
Fuck off bitching about someone that just needs a job and is taking a chance to apply because they don’t have the ideal 5+ years of experience (sometimes it is bullshit). Just do your job after the 10 second scan and flip to the next resume … and hope that the day doesn’t come that one of these ‘newbies’ isn’t an HR Professional that one day has to look at your resume … that they don’t look through it for the date you graduated from university and put you aside because you’re an old fuck who probably isn’t qualified to work for the progressive company you’ve applied to.
What a terrible attitude OB.. I hope your business sinks. Good luck to all the new grads out there… keep persisting and it will work out for you, don’t listen to this asshole.
Right on persevere and jip!
Op, you can’t always get you want. But if you try sometimes, you might find, you’ll get what you need.
The eternal catch 22 for young people trying to gain work experience, you can’t land a job because the employers want experience and you can’t get experience because you can’t land a job.
OP has to understand that for someone desperate to find employment in their field, they will cast their net far and wide even positions that ask for experience. Hoping something in the resume might get them to the interview stage and with a good interview, maybe they can get in.
Survey says fuck you
OK break is over (yes I said break, and not “I’m not coming back”, been having too much fun on this thing)
The first time I experienced the shit attitude of the OP was in the reserves 10 years ago in 1st field regiment as a gunner shitting my fucking pants on exercises at Gagetown working the 3 sight on a howitzer where if you make a fucking mistake you are in huge shit. The master corporal was this dick head who would trash any questions followed by trashing any small mistake I made followed by saying “know your job!” and he wouldn’t help me with any correcting or going over the sequence of orders for laying out the gun as he was supposed to (training). When I finally flipped out (stressed as fuck) and told him that I wasn’t a fucking mind reader and was straight out of artillery trades training and the only one in the gun detachment volunteering for the most difficult position on the gun he brought it almost right to C01 where our group discussion basically went like this.
Officer: Master corporal you are not displaying leadership.You should be helping your follow serviceman when he needs you. Instead you are scapegoating him when you are originally placed in your position by me to train. This makes your gun detachment a disgrace and I am transferring private Abraham to another detachment where he will be incorporated into recce training since he has shown initiative.
The rank system saved me.
After this, this fucker was trying to get the other higher ranked non commissioned members to give me every shit job in every situation. I sometimes would only sleep 1 hour in a two day exercise, and not a single ONE of the other privates volunteered for 3 sight (most difficult position in detachment for someone who’s new). Wost thing, was that there were multiple people like him in that regiment alone and they are fucking everywhere in every work force. Completely impatient and not understanding what basically is the human group condition; TEACHING each other, and knowing how to teach by being specific and thorough.
If OP wants loyal employees he’d better change his fucking attitude and realize that society is built on training. If he thinks someone else is going to do it for him and the trainee is going to drop out of the sky he’s trying to get lucky. Fuck you OP, you are a societal leech who complains about what is essentially life.
This “experience required” bullshit is part of what keeps companies from thriving in this province. Unless you’re hiring for a very specialized position that requires long-term training, EVERY job can be learned in a week with the right person. A fresh outlook and an eagerness to learn and succeed can go much further than 5 years of “experience”. Given your attitude, I’d take a guess that you’re quite experienced at your job. And you suck shit at what you do.
Experience IS REQUIRED !
Fresh out of school generally means fuck all.
In my job I train anyone we manage to get in basics, like knot tying !
How the hell you going to be a rigger if you can’t tie knots ?!?
I’ve seen kid’s from school with a basic idea on what to do…but I don’t have 2 hours to watch them do what I or one of my hands can do in 10 minutes.
I’ve seen guy’s come from other job sites with 25 or 30 days “experience” & still not know some of the basic shit. Sure they’ve got theory, but because they are new, other crews won’t let them do anything except hump the gear.
Get this & that & put it over there. No explaination of what the crews up to, what we’re lifting or building…just treat them like a pack animal.
TO be fair many young guy’s ( and the few girls) don’t care. They’re happy to be getting paid, so there are a few of us old guy’s who do lunch time knot class. teach them how to tie with one hand, behind your back simple things not taught in schools like quick releases &
where they apply & where they are a hazzard. Show them to use self retrieval instead of tieing a line to the load for example.
But now in the OB’s defense…sometimes there are jobs where there is no place for a new guy. -period-
IF that is the case, then that’s the way it is, you need someone who KNOWS THEIR SHIT. Then all the calls & all the paperwork from people with no experience just slows you down & makes it harder.
There are also jobs that can’t be learned in one week either due to the sheer amount of stuff you’re ultimately responsible for or because the guy(s) you’re replacing by yourself (and who would in all logic given you the training) all retired _before you got hired_.
When you’re lucky, you hit a combo. Shitton of gear, responsibility and accountability and no one to train you but your instincts and every manual and scribbled note you can find. Great fun when said gear is older than your parents, lightly maintained and capable of reducing you to chunky red salsa, pink mist or “well-done” electro-fried twitching stump.
Thank you HR.
I guess you started at the top, with at least five years experience, right, OB? Oh yeah, when daddy gave you a job (created a position for you), you immediately start putting unrealistic expectations on new applicants so you don’t have to stick you neck out and take a chance (or do the work yourself). Go fuck yourself, daddy’s little failure!
Young people these days…trying to be successful. Recent graduates with ambition! What spoiled brats, eh? Back in my day, fuck you.
you are aware that denying anyone a job based on experience level is against the law right? if 100 people all apply for the job you are posting and all arent experienced, how the FUCK are they gonna get any experience….fucking assholes, who would want to work for a company with YOU around anyway…seems like a caustic environment to work at.
unless we’re talking 20-25 bucks an hour or more, the job is not specialized enough to warrant 5 years minimum…. you’re just trying to pinch pennies by forcing the staff to work at blistering pace to make up for the LACK OF WORKERS.
shitty business model, asshole.
if you offer 12-15 bucks an hour, you’re GOING to get the grads all scrambling for a job they very likely could do if you’d just give them a chance.
Is OB for real? Are there people this stupid actually holding down jobs?
At least in my field, it’s the recent grads that come in on the cutting edge of technology and knowing what they fuck they’re doing.
They’re coming in eager to impress and looking to make an impact so that they can be there for the long haul. The five to seven year’ers aren’t usually looking to change jobs, and the ones that are probably are because they got complacent and gave up in their last one after five years or so..
Ooooh a recent grad can text and update their Twitter and Facebook status. Give them a fucking raise!