This bitch is addressed to all smokers who decide to light up in bus shelters with total disregard to anyone else occupying the same space…FUCK OFF. You should know better but due to your ignorant ways, you’ll probably be a prick for life. Even when told politely that the shelters are not for smoking, I’m usually given a dumb cunt remark.
Show a little compassion for the people around you or is that too much to ask from you?
—HR Puff n’ Stuff It
This article appears in Jun 25 – Jul 1, 2009.
Totally agree. Smokers should be standing on the yellow lines in the middle of the street like they’re supposed to.
Yeah really. They could be out in the rain and they wouldn’t be far away enough.
That’s not enough, they shouldn’t mingle with other folks for at least half an hour after smoking to let the acrid smell dissipate.
It is how they measure the literacy rate in the HRM….LOL….I agree 100% these selfish muzzafuzzas cannot read and we should have pity on their ignart asses…. I do not use the bus often but every time I do in my hood……they always smoke away from the stop…..I guess the literacy rate in EP is higher ?????
Trust me op, you’ll probably inhale more toxins and fumes from the busses and cars that pass you waiting at the stop than the smoker standing next to you.
And I’ve got the tail pipe burns to prove it.
Doesn’t matter how many vehicles pass…I don’t understand why someone would would intentionable indulge in selfish, objectionable behaviour that we all know is unhealthy. I don’t care if someone wants to smoke but there is no reason they must subject others to the dangers of their habit. Rudeness seems to rule in society these days. Being rude to others only diminishes the rude person, the opposite of what they seek to achieve. Silly, isn’t it?
I agree with you Oceanlady, and trust me someone smoking at a bus stop would bother me too, but on the other hand I’d wish people had thicker skins and sucked it up more often than not.
A little bit a smoke isn’t the end of the world. Spend one day in New Delhi and it’s like the equivalent of smoking a pack of cigarettes yet people complain over here because for 5 minutes someone was smoking where they weren’t supposed to.
I don’t know Oceanlady, what I find questionable is how we, as a society, create outcasts of people who do these “objectionable behaviours”. We’ve made scapegoats of these people, despite the fact that obesity is far more wearing on our health care system than any smoker is. Silly, isn’t it, especially given the fact that we’ve become so complacent to blame all of society’s woes on one small segment of the population, hm?
Last week I complained to the mentally-challeged resource centre at South & Barrington (the brick bldg, not the drop in centre house) about one of their clients (cory) telling me where to go when I pointed out the no smoking sign to him as he sat on the bench puffing away while on a break.
The female manager who listened to my concerns passed the buck to HRM and the HPD instead of telling her clients that they can’t smoke in the shelter while accessing their services. Schools and employers can dictate conditions of attendance and this lady was too laxy to even attempt anything.
It is not just the shelters either…..When I walk out of public buildings I swear they are getting closer and closer to that front door..When I go to the VG for test why do I have to hold my breath 20 feet before I enter and 20 feet inside the building……. STAY AWAY FROM THE FRONT DOORS…..dang…
They should build shelters for smokers….that way the can save money, light one up and they all get the fumes….
Because we’re pissed off with holier than thou asses. It’s outside where all the other fumes are. If the worse I do is smoke then I’m ok with that. I don’t drink and drive, beat people up, rob them. I work and contribute quite a bit to society esp in the job I do. So if I want to enjoy, yes enjoy, a damn cigarette then cross the street cause I’m not moving.
Some of us have allergies to smoke or what is in each ciggie…..so I take it very seriously…. Even when I did smoke back in the day, I still always sat in the non-smoking section of any public place….. a pack lasted me 4-5 days
Smoke allergies are bullshit, along with most environmental “allergies” to scents.
I have REAL reactions to scents and ciagarette smoke…no BS there. How insidious for someone to decide my allergies are not real! What is up with this? How do you justify that statement Dr. F???
Nobody is trying to make outcasts of smokers. They are welcome to chain-smoke if they so choose, as long as the smoke is not bothering anyone else. We ALL have rights, smokers and non-smokers…the key is respect. One should not have to suck it up, NPI. Smokers do not have the right to inflict their habit upon others. Smoking shelters, building entrances etc should be neutral zones where we can all enjoy the breathing space equally. Not a difficult concept really…for most people anyway. Sheeeesh!
Oceanlady: some just like to be cranky because they do not like themselves…he aint even a real doctor because if he was he would know that his post is as toxic as what we are talking about…
I have the same issues and it costs the tax payers much through MSI every time I have to deal with conveniently illiterate and inconsiderate people…
Like you I could not careless who wants to kill themselves faster…… I am not one of them
yawn *big stretch* moving on
Ugh. I’m sick of all the “smoke allergies are BS” crap. Yes, some people are *also* allergic to smog, or flowers, or dog hair, or what have you. But smoking is preventable. Along with perfume, and the like. Smokers don’t realize that they STINK to us “holier-than-thous” as you so charmingly put us.
I once had a lab partner in university who reeked so baldy of smoke EVERY freaking day that I had to move across the room. It is not as pleasant and therapeutic for us as it is for you. Sorry to say, your habit stinks.
Shut the Fuck up!!!!I agree to no smokin in the shelters or in that case anywhere a sign is or 10 meters froma entrance but other than that get over it. If you are that worried about inhaling smoke get a god damn mask or something. Or better yet stay at home. Y’all got no smokin laws here and there they cannot make them everywhere. We buy them not you. Suck on a tale pipe for a couple hours then tell me whats worse.
Hey, we ARE holier than thou. Smokers have a senseless, destructive addiction, plain and simple.
Anyone under 30 that I see smoking, I feel like screaming at them. What the hell are you thinking? You grew up in an age with huge scientific advancements in cancer research, plus the admission from big tobacco that smoking kills. You’ve seen or heard of people dying from smoking-related mouth, throat and lung cancers. You know that you’ll immensely reduce your risk of these cancers if you don’t smoke. Yes, you have freedom to choose – but why would you choose a lifestyle where you’re forced to be an outcast to have a cigarette (outdoors, likely alone), you’re losing money, you smell repulsive and you’re losing years from your lifespan? Why?!
Heathro- do you feel like screaming at the 18 year old kids stuffing their faces with french fries and double Big Macs too? Give the selective morality a rest.
Hear Hear, Bobby!
Bro Tim,
Why should I cross the street while you have a smoke. It doesn’t make sense that where I intended to catch the bus, I have to cross the street to accomodate you. Just stand upwind. I don’t mind anyone smoking, just not in my face.
I really wish I could fart on command. A really good Donair, Chili, Rum fart.
So, for the smokers who are sick of the Holier than Thou’s, if there is a sign that says no smoking and you are sitting there smoking and I POLITELY ask you to stop and you RUDELY tell me to fuck myself….who’s the one with the attitude problem?
“We ALL have rights, smokers and non-smokers”. Ocean lady if this is true, then please tell me what a smokers rights are? As far as I can tell we have none. We were asked to give up the rights to smoke in “most places” public places, bars, cars, restraunts, even dwellings that we reside in. Where in they hell are we allowed to smoke…. oh I forgot… give it up…we’re not ALLOWED to smoke.. we have no right to
We pay a good share of taxes contributing to our society, if we all quit where would the goverment get a good share of their money to pay for stuff like health care for everyone else?? We’re asked to give up a fair amount for our habit.. What is everyone else asked to give up? Nothing
Cigarettes are legal and until they are not, you Holier Than Thous should give yourself a triple rum/pop rock enema and get over yourselves.
Just to let you know. I do respect people when I am smoking and I will not smoke in a place that specifically asks you not too.
The same people who whine for their “right” to smoke in the bus shelter are probably the same ones who would complain about a person with overpowering cologne or perfume being in the bus shelter with them. Just because it’s their habit, it’s suddenly special.
I used to smoke when I was a teen. When my town’s mall eventually banned indoor smoking, all my smoking friends grumbled about “the man” making them go outside to smoke. I didn’t really care though, because even then, I knew that smoking was a dirty, disgusting habit that is harmful to the smoker’s and others’ health. We all have our vices. Thing is though, I don’t care if someone smokes. It was their choice to start and it’s their (difficult) choice to quit. I don’t think it’s a very good habit but honestly it’s none of my business. It’s when smokers start affecting others with their habit – filling the air with smoke in an enclosed space, tapping their butts everywhere so that the ash drifts onto other people, littering their butts everywhere, stinking; then I do care. I’m pretty sure that I’m allowed to care about something that affects me, even if you, as the smoker, don’t.
And these comparisons to car fumes are ridiculous. We don’t live in Mexico City. I almost never smell car fumes, even when I’m walking down a street congested with cars. Most cars are not standing next to me with their broken down tailpipe oozing toxic fumes. I’m not saying they don’t create pollution, but it’s not something I actually consciously experience.
And denying people have allergies is just rude. So, what, they’re all just making it up? I’d rather have someone blow smoke in my fucking face than have the gall to tell me that my physical symptoms are all “made up.” But then again, people usually aren’t that assholish in real life, with real people – not when they have the internets to hide on.
Why the smoking issue bothers me the most is because for years now I have seen and read about everyone downing smokers. If smoking is so bad then why are they selling them in the first place? answer to that… its where the goverment gets a fair share of taxes, thats why they won’t stop selling them. Its just like with obesity in this world… want to end it, stop selling junk food and fast foods.. why don’t they? Because people are making a fortune out of everyone elses habits. Same goes for drinking. Even thought I am surprised that they haven’t legalized drugs yet, apparently the goverment hasn’t realized the money they could make on that one.
If money is to be made from a venture.. to hell with the consequences… all that means is more money for everyone else in the businesses they run for health care.
As for people being allergic to cigarette smoke.. I have a sister in law thats allergic to it, so we don’t smoke around her, so I personally know there is such an allergy. All I say is if some smokers can respect the rights of non smokers why can’t non smokers respect our rights as well. There are alot of wosrt things going on in this world than smoking that everyone should be concerned about. With all the wars, murders, rapes and pedaphiles , arson going on.
Yeah, Bobby, I do want to do that. Ditto for drinkers, drug users, sexual deviants and lazy fucks.
I do agree as a smoker i thin it is disrespectful to smoke in a bus shelter if other people are in it. What I also find disrespectful is when i am standing in a smoking section and have non smokers stand in there (from the rain) and fake couph
so….were all bastards when it comes to this…
also smoke allergies>? fuck that noone has that
SometimesIWonder, the government allows the selling of tobacco products because to outlaw it would be the move of a dictatorship. They just soften the blow with specialized taxation and claim this is still a democracy governed with capitalist market values. As for the obese, there were obese people long before there were fast food chains so outlawing fast food and junk food won’t help these poor saps. Pull your head out of your ass, would you? Please?
you know what i maybe be naive in the way i think but I have the right to chose how I live my life the way I want and listening to others rant on about how they are so all high and mighty because they don’t smoke makes me sick. I have one bad habit .. are they trying to tell me then that they are totally perfect and have none??? And because I have this one bad habit does that make me a bad person.
SometimesIWonder you are not a bad person at all!
i feel the same way! We are highly discriminated agianst where we are smokers and it is un fair!
I’m pretty sure this bitch wasn’t about smoking per se, but about someone having a problem with people smoking in bus shelters, which basically means that everyone around them gets to “smoke” too.
Although, I do recognize that you (SometimesIWonder) mentioned that you treat non-smokers with respect.
Quit complaining. I’ll have to start
taking the bus so I can smoke in
the shelters. I would smoke there if
it’s raining and no one else is there.
But since you’re complaining……I won’t
stand 10 feet from the door.
I started smoking when I was 12,
and I don’t care about those cancer
warnings. As long as it doesn’t
make me impotent, I’m happy.
Don’t most if not all bus shelters in HRM have no smoking signs?
Yes, but signs don’t stop people. SIW, smoking doesn’t make you a bad person. You’re a good person with a bad habit.
I’m not arguing the undeniable detrimental health effects of smoking. We all know that smoking is dangerous, but my comment of “smoke” allergies is valid. If you’re allergic to cigarette smoke, you’re most likely allergic to something as mundane as car exhaust. Actual allergies (that being an actual chemical sensitivity that makes your antihistamine levels skyrocket) are rare. Just call it for what it is, you don’t like the smell, or you just don’t like smokers. Do you get a skin rash when you are within 50 feet of a smoker? Do you go into anaphylactic shock when you inhale “smoke”? Just don’t give me the bullshit of “I’m allergic” when you’re not.
It’s how you flick your but and say “Here’s another one” that makes you a really bad person, one deserving a brutal violent beating!
Let’s just all laugh inside knowing the smokers will die of lung cancer 🙂
Interesting sense of humour
andy needs to catch a fatal dick in his throat for that ignorant comment
Andy, it does deny the rules of self preservation and evolving to keep doing something you know will kill you…self induced and imposed murder???
mmmmmmmmmmmmm who knew
I agree, mcgayle… but those french fries are so yummy!!!
mcgayle, if fatality rates were certain (from smoking, eating fatty foods, drinking to excess, smoking pot, popping pills, whatever) I’m sure more people would live like you claim to but since they’re still living I guess we’ll have to stretch our minds around that. Here’s a clue, given your penchant for quoting others:
“Every man dies. Not every man really lives”
— William Wallace
It’s not “self induced and imposed murder” (and what you mean to say here is ‘suicide’)… it’s called LIVING. Would you say the same of a race car driver, a sky diver and every other extreme sport enthusiast?
Your really need to stop it with your presumptions about your fellow human being. Stereotypes are accurate right up until you judge an individual. Who are you to judge anybody? Really? Do actually you read what you write about others? Can you do it with any objectivity? You don’t really think it’s a literacy problem when a smoker lights up near your bus shelter, do you? Really? Bitch about an obvious disregard for another but you lose me and others who hold integrity dear when you make that leap and presume someone is illiterate or is on a suicide mission. Time for you to temper your judgment with some facts about the nature of human beings. Practice (empathy and kindness) makes perfect.
Andy your a dink!!!
it will just be ever so funny when us smokers out live you..
George Burns, Bob Hope, Milton Berle, the Queen Mother all hit 100 or close to it and were smokers.
Michael Jackson, Terry Fox, Flo-Jo, all died young and non-smokers.
Ok, I’m convinced, someone pass me cigarette. No, wait…the whole pack…I wanna live forever.
Was it raining? Were you forced to stand in the shelter with the smoke? Do the shelters even contain smoke all that much? Don’t most of them only have three walls? Are you overreacting? Yes.
Fizz, I HAVE to stand in the shelter…….
the wind messes with my hair
🙂
miles join me
*sides pack*
may the wind blow long and hard just for you, mcgayle
Hey oh, Im a smoker, a young smoker in my 20s. I enjoy it, it makes me happy, its one of the few things that do as of late. BUT, I agree that smokers should not smoke in bus shelters. BUT, if there is no one around, or no one waiting for the bus, I most certainly plop my tiny ass in there and puff away. BUT, if i see someone walking to the shelter, or standing outside the shelter, I happily get up and walk out. Simple. Easy. Yes sometimes I get a shitty look, and if I do, I just take another puff and laugh. Its not the end of the world. So all of you people that think smokers are these horrible people with no manners, or respect for others, up yours, I hope you shit out a lung. I have manners, and more respect for my fellow city dwellers then most.
Cheers! Light up and Enjoi!
-teh smoker.
I will smoke to that!
Cigarette smoke makes my throat sore and triggers a migraine.
A few wiffs of it here or there isn’t so bad, but hanging around with a bunch of smokers just makes me feel like shit.
I used to visit my grandmother who smoked like a g-damned chimney and I’d come home sick as a dog and end up in bed with a migraine for the rest of the day (and that was just after a two hour visit, if that). I was around 6-10 at the time. I doubt a 6-10 year old will fake an allergy/illness like that or fake a migraine because they’re morally opposed to smoking.
Allergies to smoke are real. And yeah, smokers generally STINK. Not all — some who smoke outside are ok, but I remember when my grandmother stopped smoking and how filthy her house was (the walls, furniture, etc…) just from the smoke. And the old bag was a clean/neat freak. Smoking is just gross. To each their own, I’m all in favour of minding one’s own business — if you want to suck on cancer sticks that’s your bag, but as far as I’m concerned smoking is a dirty habit.