“Look at that ‘thug’, he’s just trying to be black.”
Calling thugged-out white people wannabe blacks is a pretty racist thing to say.
You’re saying all black people are thugged-out, mean-mugging criminals. That’s considerably: Incorrect, racist, and ignorant.
Hip hop is not about color, it’s about culture. Before you judge the way they act, speak, dress, etc you should first learn a little more about the subculture. Disagree? Well I feel bad for you… Hip Hop lives in the North
This article appears in May 27 – Jun 2, 2010.
Never forget that a subculture’s most zealous adherents are frequently it’s worst ambassadors.
HA! IotD with a zinger…
I’m not for the racism… but then again, I’m not for the ‘hip hop culture’ either so…
The only thing hip hop culture has given the world is an abundance of ass-cracks and a bunch of sheep-brained knobs walking around with their pants down to their knees. What’s so fucking cultural about that?
I thought the slang term for these people was the N-word with the N replaced by a W. Now it’s changed to “thugged out”?
I agree with TTFN.
Pull your damn pants up!
I know lots of people who LOVE hip hop and most of them wear pants that fit.
Racism is a ridiculous concept given that we are all the same race ~the human race. Maybe culturalism or ethnicism would be more appropriate terms. Or ass-crackism, though not exclusive to hip-hoppers (think plumbers) hehehe.
those wanna be gangsters haven’t come anywhere near the perfection that plumbers have over the crack. Those crazy, pipe fixing bastards are the A-listers of the ass crack world.
Gangsters are the equivalent of a paris hilton movie…
hip hop (like any music genre) has it’s good and bad points. it’s ignorant to say that hip hop has only brought us ass cracks and and poor fashion, when there are intelligent artists like buck 65, common, krs 1, jay z, brother ali, who are saying and have done great things within this genre. does replacing the n with a w make it OK when referring to a white person “acting” black? no. it seems as though ignorance is in abundance in this city, i want to believe we can do better.
intelligent artists like buck 65 (Who?), common (Who?), krs 1 (Who?), jay z (umm really?), brother ali (Who?)
again, trying to prop hip hop to me is like teaching calculus to Andy Dick.
I won’t get it… and I’m bound to make a scene if you try.
LOL CULTURE. Your culture is the county you live in, nothing more. If you are from Canada than act Canadian, not any other way.
the only fucking racists are the ones screaming about racism. why the fuck don’t these and other people smarten the hell up. if you start bitching about something, then you know that other people will too. but you just might not get the response that you want. is there racism in nova scotia, why not, it is world fucking wide. and just who start it, well it has to be the whites, or the blacks or the green meanies. who fucking cares what the skin color is. who fucking cares what religion you believe in. just shut the fuck up about this shit, ad stop tryying to be better than the fucking rest of the world. because you fucking fool, it ain’t working. take racism and shove it all the way up everyones ass, then you’ll find out who hates who. some people make me fucking gag.
and by the way, if you dress and act like something or someone you aren’t, then yes, you are a wannabe. a wannabe what i don’t fucking know, or even care. be yourself, don’t try copying off other people. look at jroc from the trailor park boys, what the fuck was he.to me, just a fucking punk ass little shit. no color, no race, just a little fucking punk. same goes for the rest of the copying public, be your fucking self.
how do i act canadian? i am ambivalent about some things and go bull-a-goring crazy for other things…is that it echo? quack
Question for the hip hoppers: Why don’t you peel the sticker off your hat?
I don’t even think that hip hop is even a sub-culture. The only reason it’s “culture” is that it’s a genre of music. The people who dictate that it’s a sub-culture (primarily those within the music industry) have made it a sub-culture so that they have something to market to.
Sadly, it’s in their best interests to have middle class disenfranchised youth as a market. Plenty of money to be made selling albums, clothing (probably made in China no less), cheap jewelry and an other finery that these kids can play dress up in.
My youngest and her buddies used to call white hip-hoppers ‘Wiggers’. Did I just use the W word?????? Holycommunionwaferinmyanalasterisk!!! Sorrysorrysorrysorrysorrysorry.. as a penance, I’ll say two hundred and sixty-two Hail Marys and recite Desiderata thirty-seven times while I share birdshit kisses with the bust of Sir Walter Scott on South Park Street.
Thankfully, my kids were suckled by Eric Clapton et al.
I love hip hop too and I don’t dress like a wigger or imitation baller.
nice to see the penny farthing doc.
Thought I’d pop this one in for bike week.
Hip hop IS a culture onto it’s own, just as country music creates a culture, as jazz creates a culture etc. Not culture as in ethnic, but culture as in a way of life.
Hip hop culture includes break-dancing, graffiti, turntablism (that is-using records and turntables to create music), and MC’ing (that is, being the vocalist over the dj).
I know that some of you don’t care/don’t get it, and frankly, it took a while for me to get it. But here I am, a product of rock and roll loving parents, a 30-something white-bread Canadian woman from Halifax; and a lover of hip hop. Hip hop music made in the 80’s and 90’s is still extremely listenable, and it’s staying power isn’t going to fade any time soon.
But I think the OP’s point was that the statement a “‘thug’ trying to be black” is a judgement based on nothing but someone’s appearance, not the person wearing the clothes, and definitely not the intent behind the manner of dress.
Sure there are people who consider themselves to be part of hip hop culture who could use a tailor, and I hate the pants-strapped-around-the-ass look too, but profiling someone based on their pants is unfair, and in this case, racist.
Bottom line: just beacuse you don’t enjoy it, doesn’t mean people that do are inferior.
I personally find it offensive that i can’t go around in a tank top, but some idiot can go around shirtless, with his pants down off his ass, and acting like a sterotypical black person. And i DO mean stereotypical. As if they are straight out of the roughest hood in Compton. Hell, it pisses me off when black people themselves do that shit.
BGR— That’s the thing. It’s a genre of music. That’s it. Culture, by definition, is a way of life, and if people were to follow the hip hop credo fully, they would be “gettin’ crunked, takin’ names, and smackin’ bitches!”
9 times out of 10, that doesn’t exactly happen so…
I think you all missed the point of buddy’s bitch. You internet tough guys can say what you want, but hip hop isn’t about sagged pants. If any of you are willing to listen, Hip hop is about music and a way of life (not being a criminal) not slapping bitches, killing, trafficking, etc. Maybe commercialized rappers (Don’t deserved to be called MC’s) rhyme about these things, but saying men like Big L, 2pac, Biggy, Nas, KRS-one, Spice 1 aren’t artists just shows how little you know about music, poetry, and lyricism.
Please describe the “way of life” then. Being abjectly poor and writing music that surrounds it?
Also, you have to admit, to the rest of the world, commercialized rappers represent hip hop, rap, and everything in between those music genres. When people hear hip hop/rap they essentially see Dr. Dre.
Sorry for the double post, but to the issue of clothing; clothing is a uniform which represents your social group. So in a very direct fashion, saggy pants are the uniform of hip hop.
“commercialized rappers represent hip hop, rap, and everything in between those music genres. When people hear hip hop/rap they essentially see Dr. Dre.”
So Nickelback represents the majority of rock fans then. Very sound logic you have there.
well don’t yo know canuck hip hop started in the innner-city ghettos of ummm of ahhhh….you know theee….. we don’t have inner city ghettos bouyyyy 🙂
Not-Stupid is right, most of you have entirely missed the point of this bitch. Whether you like, or even ‘get’ hip hop music is completely irrelevant. To state that someone who listens to hip hop, or dresses or acts like a “thug” is “acting black” IS indeed racist, because it assumes that:
a) all black people listen to hip hop music
b) all black people dress the same
and c) all black people are lowlife thug criminals
Frankly, I find the ease of which some of you throw around phrases like “stereotypical black person” and “wigger” pretty appalling. Seriously, take a fucking step back and listen to yourselves. You sound like a bunch of uneducated hillbillies.
So anyway, here’s where you all get defensive, and the usual “fuck that PC bullshit” rhetoric comes out, which essentially just a really weak excuse for not addressing the obvious character flaws some of you have. Seriously, folks, I realize you’re all just strutting in an anonymous internet forum, but do you really think that a word that means ‘white nigger’ is okay to use, ever?
In closing, I’d just like to say that while I used to find most of the views expressed here amusing, now they mostly just make me sad.
…and martym, Canadian hip hop came from the same poor disenfranchised sorts of places that American hip hop came from. Just because our ghettos aren’t as big, or even necessarily as urban, as those in the US, doesn’t mean their inhabitants don’t come from cultures that are just as ghettoized.
you mean say Eglinton & Markham in Scarborough ON. or Regent Park or Jane-Finch Corridor; yea i know all about them lived at Eg. & Mkm. basically you just have a cycle of drugs and violence caused solely by de man; heard it sick of it
Sodeypop– yes, that’s an unfortunate reality. They represent rock music, especially the Canadian rock music scene. So, yes, from my perspective, it’s actually very sound.
Me0w— well aren’t we all high and mighty? I would call these things stereotypes, which is not racism. Racism is discrimination based upon race, not grouping people together and generalizing. There’s nothing in this bitch that screams racism, unless these “thugged-out white people wannabe blacks” are being told to use different water fountains or are being segregated into different schools.
Here’s the two definitions.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/…
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/…
Pretty big difference.
Doc, I hardly think I’m being high and mighty by expressing distaste for the ease with which derogatory racial remarks sometimes get thrown around in this forum. I expect it from the usual trolls and rabble-rousers, but when otherwise seemingly-intelligent people join in, I find it pretty disheartening, to say the least.
I appreciate your busting out the dictionary links and all, but it should be fairly obvious that racism involves a variety of problematic thought and action, including stereotyping. Attributing specific traits to an entire ethnic group, especially negative traits like criminal behaviour, is most certainly racism. Not all stereotyping is racism, of course, but I can confidently say that telling someone who dresses a certain way that they’re “acting black”, which carries an obvious derisive intent, is both stereotyping AND racist.
The perceived criminal behaviour wouldn’t fall under racism though… Again, that’s a stereotype, especially in our neck of the woods, crime is perpetrated by “thugged-out white people” (to use the OP’s words) and by other people of differing backgrounds. So, again, it fails to fit what we define as racism, leaving me to believe that we’re dealing with a negative stereotype. For the most part, they’re given a fair shake at life and not oppressed in any fashion because of race. They might be oppressed socioeconomically, but that’s a whole other can of worms and far more complex than anything we could get into here.
My point is, if you use the word too much, it leads to people being over-reactionary and makes people say stupid stuff like “fuck this PC bullshit”. It begins to lose meaning. It would be like using the word holocaust to describe something that is unrelated to an actual holocaust.
“LOL CULTURE. Your culture is the county you live in, nothing more. If you are from Canada than act Canadian, not any other way.” – Well that’s a pretty freakin ignorant comment. If you want assimilation move to the fucking states dude.
Great point, fallingangels. What the hell does it mean to “act Canadian”. Do people in Newfoundland act the same way that people in BC do? I’m Acadian, does that mean that I should act the same as Quebecois?
I suppose from an outsider’s perspective, there are two ways to “act Canadian”. One viewed negatively, one viewed positively:
1) Slurring all your words in a chain that no one outside of your “culture” will understand, living in an igloo, owning penguins, snowshoeing everywhere, remaining invisible.
2) Being extremely open-minded and accepting of all cultures around you and promoting that sort of multiculturalism.
It’s no secret that the first isn’t true, and sad that the second one also isn’t true. To be fair our country, as a generalization, is likely more open-minded than others. Regardless, I still hear and deal with a lot of intolerance and ignorance everyday. I was walking down Spring Garden one snowy evening, and there was an Asian girl ahead of me with an umbrella. This man standing outside of Your Father’s Moustache yelled at her, “It’s SNOWING, not raining! Clearly you’re not from this country!” Whether or not it was because she did not understand, I’m glad the girl continued along without acknowledging him. But the thought of someone verbally assaulting a stranger (yes, it IS a verbal assault in my opinion) like that was appauling.
I also absolutely hate statements like “if you live here, you should speak English”. That one bugs me the most. Considering most of us who are born and raised in Canada nowadays are descendants of immigrants who came here decades or centuries ago, I just feel as if that’s an awful mindset to have.
“crime is perpetrated by “thugged-out white people” (to use the OP’s words) and by other people of differing backgrounds.” Yes, Doc, exactly, which is why saying that someone is “acting black” when they exhibit “thug” qualities or engage in criminal behaviour is a racist attitude. It fails to recognize the diversity, if you will, of the thug or criminal population, and attributes such behaviour solely to black people. According to this flawed logic, then supposedly, a white kid dressed in gangsta attire and selling crack isn’t just being a criminal, he’s “acting black”. How is that not racist?
me0w— it would be racist if the “thugged-out white people” were somehow being discriminated against. Just because somebody is “acting black” means that they are acting upon a negative stereotype.
In short, racism is a breach of somebody’s human rights strictly because of race, and a stereotype is grouping people together based upon a number of factors. It’s a very important distinction.
Ok, to the morons who are defending really bad music, and getting quite offended that others haven’t just fallen in love with their “culture” (I’m sorry, do hip-hop lovers have a religion, country, and language all their own? Look up what a “culture” really is): remove the spiked stick out of your asses.
Yes, there ARE stereotypical black people. They act as if they are from the roughest neighborhoods in Compton. Just like we have the white people who act like inbred hillbillies (hello, Sprytown) They are stereotypical because they go around talking, acting, and being just like history taught us these groups act. That is what “stereotypical” is. Don’t like it? You also don’t like that others notice that some DO act like this? Poor muffin.
I get SO fucking sick of people crying like little prison bitches because they or someone they identify with get called out for acting like a complete and utter tool. “Omg! Racism! But we can go around acting like an ignorant fool because it’s our CULTURE!” How about this? You’re human, and you’re Nova Scotian. Try identifying with that (and get the beer bottles ready)
I don’t usually agree with Fever, but sorry, dude has a point.
Oh, and btw: I’m part Asian, and i use the word chink ALL the time to describe myself. Take the fucking power out of the words. Actually, wait. If you do that, you won’t have shit to get all, “Oh no, you di’nt!” about. I forgot.
Don’t call me an idiot tough guy.
Tough guy? haha
First off, I’m a girl. Second, I’m not afraid of anyone when I open my mouth. I will even meet you somewhere 🙂
I wasn’t threatening you, I was telling you not to call me an idiot. Grow up?
When you use the word hillbillies, I presume you’re talking about rural people who live in the hills. We are not inbreds. I live in the hills, and I assure you I am not an inbred nor am I uneducated. I went to college. That is a form of discrimination when you call rural people inbred and uneducated, and it is
the wrong way to look at rural people. We
are not inbreds and we are not uneducated. You’ve been brainwashed by watching Beverly Hillbillies if you think of dwellers of the hill that way.
gol dang io,is you granny, i always had the hots for that babe. and hey. i was born in the sticks too. actually in a bayou in loisianna, what does that make me,a redneck,yahoo mam, get me truck a going to git some gators tonite. and as to nationality, i am canadian, not a fucking hybrid name, just canadian, and lately, getting ashamed of that, thanks to the politricktions.
I’m torn here. I do tend to like hip hop, but hate all the thugged-out black wannabe wiggahs. Oh my God, I said it! Well that’s what they are. They’re white kids who emulate the stereotypical young African American culture, and their heroes like Eminem and Classified. Note as well that I call them “wiggahs,” not “wiggers.” Any idea for what else we’re supposed to call them?
Obviously not all younger black people are like this, but that is the stereotype that we see on both TV and real life more often than not. Take a drive by Uniacke Square, Mulgrave Park, or up through North Preston. Watch BET. Of course we can’t help but to be influenced by what we see, but political correctness and people like ‘me0w’ often want to limit us from saying what we actually think and talking about this openly without fear of repercussion. No one wants to be labeled the “R word,” yet certain people love throwing it around so much that it has now lost true meaning.
I stand by my opinion.
It isn’t racism, by any means. It’s seeing people act out negative stereotypes. Yes, that means they are being tools. Whether they are black, white, asian, or a fucking martian. No matter.
My toddler is half-Native. I call him a little savage when he acts like one. Take the power away from the words. I know many of my black friends who will poke fun at stereotypical people. A few happen to listen to hiphop and rap…none claim that there is some weird “culture” to it. Their culture lives throughout their family, religion, ancestry. None go around with their pants halfway off down their asses, acting ridiculous.
And btw- white hiphop clothing looks ludicrous on a white boy. The colors just clash.
Yeah? I bet you don’t go around syaing nigger. Saying it doesn’t take power away from it, people invented words and their meanings.
Yes, but doesn’t the black community go around calling each other that word for that exact same purpose?
I’ve never heard an educated black person refer to themselves, or anyone as a nigger.
You know what, that word is all theirs. Unless I’m talking about Conrad’s “Nigger of the Narcissus” or drunkenly reciting Dennis Hopper’s geneology of Sicilians monologue they can have it. A buon anima – which may be Italian for “Have a good enema”. I dunno.
Rawr “My toddler is half-Native. I call him a little savage when he acts like one. Take the power away from the words.”
So it is ok for you to call your child a little savage. Are you also saying that it wouldn’t be ok for someone else no native to call him this? Say a white person or black how about a teacher? Somehow I think you might have a problem with this.
You want to take the power out of the words stop using them in referance to a person(s). It was ignorance back them and it is ignorance now.
First off, I’ve never seen ANY educated person, regardless of color, act like these “hiphop culture” devotees. They act like humans. They don’t go around wearing really bad clothes, walking with what looks to be half the time a really bad limp (what IS that, some sort of weird “macho” strut?), etc. And no, i don’t use the n-word. I’ve only ever used it when someone was acting like one. For example: an ex (white) acted just like one.
Now, as for my toddler: he is 3 years old. When i call him a savage, it is not in a harsh way. It is, “Oh, you little savage! Ugh!” For someone else to call him anything, or talk to him in a harsh light, i find wrong, simply because i won’t talk that way to another defenseless child.
Everything is ignorance today, isn’t it? Like i said, people seem to love those sticks up their asses.
Yet, i bet you guys are also the same ones who have something negative to say about white people. We’re the only racist ones, after all…
Rawr: I’m too lazy to look it up, and I can’t really remember the exact definition, but the word “savage” originally meant something along the lines of being part animal, or in the spirit of an animal, something like that.
So really, technically, by calling your toodler “your little savage” in the context of it’s negative definition, isn’t that technically giving power to the word?
Oh, and for the record, since you posted your last comment at the same time as me, I’m white.
Ah, so the only community that’s worth paying attention to is the “educated” one? You might want to tell that to black comedians like Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy, people who used the word quite frequently in their acts to ensure that it lost a part of it’s negative connotation.
I agree Fever. Not to mention, as someone who does not fall into the “group” that the word with negative connotation is directed at, it is always going to be extremely disrespectful to use it, whether it have good intentions or not.
That’s like a member of the straight community calling someone a “fag” and then turning around and saying: “well I’m just trying to take the power away from the word”.
Doesn’t work like that.
Fuck sakes Fallin, you should have looked up savage.
You should refrain from using the word technically; because it’s evident you don’t know what that means either.
While I agree that it is important to make the distinction, Dr. F, I believe there are times when the line of distinction is blurred. IMO, the difference between a *racial* stereotype, ie. all black people are good at sports, and a *racist* stereotype, ie. all black people are criminals, is that one directly forms the basis of an ideology that instigates acts of racial discrimination. While any racial stereotype is certainly problematic, racist stereotypes represent the feelings of superiority that drive some people to violate the human rights of ethnic minorities, ie. “Because he was black, he was undoubtedly a criminal, so that’s why I shot him”, or “I didn’t hire that black woman because I knew she would steal from the company.”
In any case, I find it telling that more people would debate me over semantics than challenge the skewed racial views of others on this thread; whether you choose to call it racism or negative racial stereotypes or just plain idiocy is irrelevant. The majority of posters seem to agree that “thugged-out” hip hop types are lowlifes, but fail to see an issue with saying that someone being a lowlife is “acting black.” That’s pretty fucked up, people.
As for the issue of “reclaiming” racial slurs, it’s fine of Rawr the Chink and her Savage Baby want to choose those words for themselves (could make a great punk band name, too) but it’s not for her or anyone else to decide that for someone else. While such slurs may not hold any weight for some, those words can be a powerful trigger of the ridicule, prejudice and violence others have endured.
And Q, I’m not trying to limit what you say at all. You’re free to sound as stupid as you want. I’m just trying to get you to think about where your opinions come from. Speaking of which, holy shit dude, BET and Uniacke Square? That’s where you form your opinions of black people? Really, from the TV and your, I’m sure, extensive experience driving by and staring at some people who live in public housing? No wonder you sound so ignorant. That’s like saying all white people are well represented by FOX and trailer parks. I don’t know about you, but I would find it pretty offensive to be categorized in that way.
The point, as I think the OP was originally trying to make, is that you can feel free to mock thugs, hip hop, or suburban kids trying to act like inner-city tough guys. There’s plenty of fair and easy fodder there, why make it about race?
“but it’s not for her or anyone else to decide that for someone else.” But yet you and your PC group are deciding for everyone, that it’s offensive to use some words by certain groups. STFU.
Nice try with the false logic there, Balls, better luck next time. I’m not part of some “PC group”, whatever the fuck that means, and I certainly didn’t decide that racial slurs are offensive. I think that’s common knowledge for pretty much anyone who doesn’t drag their knuckles on the ground when they walk.
No I don’t agree it’s common knowledge for non knuckle-draggers; it’s force-fed mainstream left wing double speak that non sheeple reject and are getting quite sick of
Yeah balls, my comp is just crawling with it’s speed, and considering I read it in some super old “old english” in print dictionary, i didn’t really feel like looking it up. Oh well.
I also learned from this book that abracadabra is also some how related to the father son and holy ghost too. I can’t remember how though. Oh well again.
Sheeple? What are you, Kay in a chef’s jacket? If not using racial epithets in reference to other human beings makes me “mainstream left wing” (which doesn’t even make sense, btw) then so be it. I’m so sorry that you’re sick of it not being acceptable to call people the n-word, that must be really painful for you.
what the hell are you talking about pussy; Political Correctness is not a socialist tool for new world order? I don’t use the n-word because I choose not to!
I hear rap artists using the n-word, are they uneducated? Are all of the people that buy their music knuckle draggers? Those artists feel its fine to use the n-word, so there must be at least two groups those who think it’s acceptable in certain cases and those who don’t. I placed you in the PC group and you’re telling me I’m wrong for placing you in that group?
“Socialist tool for New World Order”? I think somebody needs to lay off the internet for a few days.
It’s amusing that you two keep attempting to make me the poster girl of over-zealous political correctness simply because I object to referring to all black people as niggers and criminals. I’m not here to debate the fact that heavy-handed political correctness can be annoying. Hell, Bill Maher enjoyed a successful career based on the notion that political correctness was ridiculous, and for its time, it was probably an astute cultural criticism. But after awhile, even for him, it became clear that sometimes, being politically incorrect is a lot like being an old-fashioned bigot. Context matters and sometimes when you try to go against the grain of what you perceive to be mainstream liberalness, you end up looking like a conservative retrograde douche-monger.
Anyway, it’s obvious I’m scraping the bottom of the barrel for debate adversaries here, so I’m going to leave this thread to you wigger-haters and conspiracy theorists, so you can discuss how those pesky women and minorities are keeping you down.
Tore up.
Meow: dude/chic, whatever you are, you seriously need to remove that stick from your ass. It must be painful to walk around with.
Meow, thank you for saying everything I wanted to say better than I ever could have said it. I will see you at the next Pinko Lefty Feminist PC Fascist Club meeting, as per usual our agenda will focus on raising the ire of bitter middle-aged bigots through our continued campaign to bring in the New World Order.
me0w, I wasn’t saying that all… forget it, it’s really pointless to try to debate someone like this.
Funnily enough, me0w is actually among the stupidest posters here who doesn’t seem to understand the context or point of what people are trying to say – and God forbid you disagree with her, that makes you a RACIST! She tries to come off as an intellectual well-educated type, but really isn’t. That King’s / Dal Arts / Mount Womyn’s Studies / whatever degree really doesn’t make you as smart as you like to think, you’re simply just regurgitating what your professors and the mainstream media have told you. Everyone with even the most basic education knows racism is bad, it’s been drilled into our heads since at least elementary school. I’ve heard it all before, have assessed the evidence, and have come to my own opinion. The issue isn’t so black and white one way or the other.
me0w, your posts are painfully typical to read and cringeworthy. It may take quite a few of us to help you remove that stick from her ass.
It’s funny as well because as I type this, there’s a basketball show interviewing some black players talking about how they’re “thugs” and “playas” getting arrested by the police. Promoting yet more negative stereotypes or what?
“Calling thugged-out white people wannabe blacks is a pretty racist thing to say. You’re saying all black people are thugged-out, mean-mugging criminals” —No it can be attributed to the attire, not any criminal acts. You seem to have taken that out of context for your own PC purposes. Hence you become the poster child for PC here.
Sorry Me0w, I see it as the attire (thug like attire can be affiliated with music videos/popular artist {I assume that’s how hip-hop got pulled into this}, not the thug mob/Mafia type attire) and hip-hop itself originated from blacks. So people correlate things, doesn’t mean that it’s absolute for all blacks and racist. Yet you jump to the negative aspects of it. I would assume some blacks take pride in the origins of hip-hop. Yet you make it a racial slur.
If I made a Greek like pizza, I wouldn’t take offence if someone said I was trying to be like the Greeks, and I don’t believe all Greeks only eat Greek food, or all Greeks only cook Greek food.
I don’t see a problem with people enjoying or imitating other “cultures”. And I don’t see the point in stripping the origins of that culture just to be PC.
Jai is trying to shove the stick it up there, but it’s already lodged. Enjoy your Pinko Lefty Feminist PC Fascist Club meeting.
Oh I should get info on what’s going on from a reliable news source as what ? A newspaper yea there’s a source of unbiased centre reporting; and as far as scraping the barrel for debate adversaries ; As Killing Joke says in a line from Total Invasion: ” All you intellectuals , were going to invade”
The only thing a fymynyst ever ruined was a good time. Seriously, you gals can’t even take back the night; rotsa ruck on that whole New World Order thing.
And the only thing that 70+ posts proves beyond a shadow of a doubt is that it’s well nigh impossible to have a rational conversation about race without somebody being called a racist knuckledragger and somebody else being called a PC cunt. It’s all just kabuki theatre, right down to expressing outrage over negative stereotypes by negatively stereotyping those who don’t agree with you. And if you can get in a dig at the United States, bonus points.
Personally, I’m more outraged by whites & blacks acting like thugs, than the other way around
… and speaking of thugs I notice that at least one member of Jimmy’s crew has learned to shoot straight. It’s pretty effed up when a criminal does more to save the Nova Scotia taxpayer money than the politrickians and the bureaucraps. Of course, the latter are the more accomplished in the art of cut-pursery, are they not?
…. Is this still going on? Bloody hell.
Yup, one of the chuckleheads who tried to whack Melvin turned up in a Newfie bog with 2 in the ear.
qpmzwonxeibcruv, a university education isn’t about indoctrinating students to regurgitate ideas; it’s about helping students develop research and critical thinking skills that they can then use to form their own ideas and opinions.
…by highlighting passages from “Manufacturing Consent” and passing them in to your professor with just enough spelling mistakes to make it seem like orginal thought.