Once again this year’s Halifax PRIDE parade boasted its “family-friendly” atmosphere and now I’m just pissed off.
I was horrified by what my daughter viewed last year at this parade and didn’t think twice about NOT bringing her this year. When’s the last time YOU told the bedtime story of “Sado-Johnny”; a man whose only super power is dry-humping air on all fours and sporting a spiked metal crotch with a ball strapped tightly into his mouth, to your 5 year old?? If you say last week… child services are on their way.
Before you fire off a bunch of hate-mail claiming I’m a prejudice asshole cuz I don’t support your right to fuck cocks or cucumbers, I’m down for many things hot so don’t go there; I’m just really tired of what seems to be the increased abuse of the word PRIDE in an effort to show everyone how horny they are. When did public sexual acts become a definition of PRIDE?? How does wearing a dog collar and assless chaps show today’s children we should be proud of being LGBT?? Are you really saying a scene like that belongs in a Disney movie? You are if you allow this parade to float with a G rating!
If you wanna get dirty, get fucking dirty, rate it properly, call that duck what it really is: a SEX parade, & sign me up! If you wanna make it a true PRIDE parade then grow the fuck up and stop giving yourselves a bad name. —Just Tellin’ it Like it Is
This article appears in Jul 28 – Aug 3, 2011.
I agree. Just because your sexual preference is in the minority, doesn’t mean you have to flaunt it at what is billed as a ‘family’ friendly event. We get it, you’re gay, get over it.
Totally valid bitch.
Had a couple of Amish from the Market in the store but they made tracks well before the first Lady Gaga tune. Don’t know which they found most disturbing; being exposed to open manlove or the internal combustion engine. >; )
I agree. It’s the same old story: pol’s allow this because they can’t grow a pair and make them follow the same rules as everyone else.
See my “THE 2020 GAY PRIDE WEEK PARADE A SMASHING SUCCESS” (July 23, 9:25AM)
Isn’t it wonderful?
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
I have no problem with anyone’s sexual preference. But if you’re in public…keep it in your fucking pants.
Can’t a Pride Parade go down the street holding hands and waving at people. Thank myself for avoiding that fiasco.
..most peeps don’t want to half that shit..straight or gay acts..
well… you’re not wrong…
Did anyone drag you to go see the parade, no? S o if you want to bitch about something, try going to the mayor’s office. Oh wait, they are all on another vacation at my expense.
Better luck next time, and tell you boy/girlfriend, to keep their eyes off the big balled gays.
Mock them with comments such as :
‘Is that all you have ?’
‘Seen bigger and better’
‘ Wrinkly ass’
‘Pink doesn’t suit you’
I doubt that some s and m straight people wwould be allowed to be part of other parades. There are fringe preferences that dont need to be on display for all to see.
“Heavens to betsy, the gays are having a parade again!! Quick, somebody prepare the fainting couches!!!”
“Sweet baby Jesus on a cracker!! Won’t somebody think of the CHILDREN?!?!!”
It’s pretty obvious that not a single one of you prudish commenters actually attended the Pride Parade. If you had, you’d realize this bitch is faker than a drag queen’s funbags. The parade has become so family-oriented and corporately-sponsored it hurts. The most subversive spectacle anyone’s little angelbabies will ever be forced to witness is some folks dancing in their underwear. Hardly the vision of sexual depravity and lewd exhibitionism y’all have been clutching at your pearls over.
You don’t even have to take my word for it. Some dedicated soul shot the whole parade and posted it on youtube. A slow-moving train of balloons, silly costumes, corporate banners and blaring techno music – pretty much like any other tedious hometown parade, except with the occasional leather daddy thrown into the mix. Hate to break it to you guys, but gay Nova Scotians are pretty much just as bland and predictable as the rest of the populace. Go figure.
my folks went, they thought it was kinda boring. lots of bank floats…good times
Brrr it’s cold. Bunch of frigid fucks in here.
haha – this bitch is ridiculous. the parade is so corporate; there’s not much to be offended by…
I waited for a group of gays not wearing a fucking Scotiabank t shirt or giving away CUPE buttons to come by. I found the parade just as boring as any small town parade. All it lacked was the gays on the tiny little motorcycles and go carts, weaving in and out of the parade, like gay Shriners.
I went to the 1998-2000 Pride Parades in Toronto while I still lived there. It was exciting and emotional, and I saw a couple topless lesbians and a handful of naked cock.
Big deal.
The corporate bandwagon this year, with hardly any underbelly representation left me unimpressed.
Meh.
gay naked shriners driving those little cars would be very entertaining. corporations suck the fun out of everything
LOL meow!
I didn’t see the parade but I’ll take me0w’s word for it. These parades are getting more tame with each passing year.
This seems to have elicited complaints of “too corporate” and “boring” but hasn’t moving all this into the mainstream been the whole idea all along?
Welcome to the mainstream LGBTs.
Pride should come from what you accomplish, not from what you happen to be.
Gays celebrate PRIDE to acknowledge the huge strides that have made for gay rights, not just “what you happen to be”. Not so long ago being gay was something to hide and be ashamed of and could get you killed. Society has a way to go yet before being gay is accepted for what it is, a naturally occuring genetic twist in the melting pot of humanity. Celebrating PRIDE is acknowledging that gays don’t have to hide anymore as in the past. We’re here. We’re queer. Get used to it.
Was not able to be at the parade in person this year. Just saw some footage of a lot of it on Youtube. Many of the entries looked like they were in a pre-view for the Natal Day parade – ie: unions, banks, other companies etc. But we work at and use those places too so that is fine. There was at a bit of colour and wildness, but not a tremendous lot of oomph.
Yes we are generally like most other people, but we used to have more jie de vivre than this parade seemed to show in the videos. However, may well have been very different if seen in the flesh. But there certainly did not seem to be much flesh to see. After what we went through in the 60s (ie Stonewall) and beyond, not to mention the the brave ones who were here much earlier and survived, we have attained much more acceptance. Which is wonderful. But in the same vein we seem to have become more ‘cookie cutter’, corporate and almost suburban. GASP! A bit of a yawn for many who wish to still be Wild and Fabu, but then again at least we then blend in and prosper. Way of the world I suppose. Like any other segment of society we cover a wide range of ‘types’ and the quiet look will appeal to some.There are still larger cities, circuit parties, gay ghettos and the like where, if we prefer the ‘old ways’, we can let our hair (if we have any left) and our drawers down. However, many of those spots are becoming ‘touristy’ too.
Last time in Toronto walking along Church St. in the Village, there were hoards of the U.S. style blue rinse set meandering along and watching ‘us’ and making comments as if they were viewing exhibits in a zoo. They were not being nasty, just ‘adventurous’. Gave them a few minutes of the ‘wild side’. That is it I guess, sharing the space and being finally accepted and trying also to be fully accepting. However, many gay ‘spots’ are now moving away from the Village because of this type of scene.
We’ll still find places to hide out and PARTAY WILD on out own – some how! Someone has to break in the music, dances, fashions and new bons mots before unleashing them to the masses. But most times we and others will mix and match as best we can. Peace and pride to all of us humans.
Acknowledging strides that have been made in the LGBT community is a matter of inalienable human rights, not pride – again, because pride should not be about something you have no control over to begin with. To say you’re proud to be gay is to say that you made a conscious decision to be such.
Why is it supposedly impossible to simply be proud of what you DO and happen to be gay or straight in the process? You don’t need to be draped in rainbow flags screaming your orientation from the rooftops to be at peace with who you are.
Oceanchick, I think the first pride parade involved 5-something guys with bags on their heads?
Why Mentats? Because societies around the world for centuries have made it a point to tell these people they should be ashamed for even existing. Why precisely should people screaming their lungs out draped in polychromatic glory disturb your peace? Oh right, because you’re most likely a member of a majority that has been catered to and now has to suck it the fuck up.
no offense meow but you’re retarded.
This has nothing to do with the LGBT community having a parade (which, btw, I DID attend) This has nothing to do with religion (which you.. lol.. “vaguely” poked at) And this doesn’t really have anything to do with children. At least not in my personal estimation as I don’t have children..
No child, my issue is that this kind of display, regardless of intention, does nothing to curb the stereotypes that saturate the LGBT community. Being gay, bi, straight, trans… it may be a sexual preference but to make it all about sex cheapens the whole thing. It disgusts the already prejudiced and confuses those who are still in the closet.
Was i offended? No not personally. But like i say.. OP is not wrong. He is illustrating exactly what goes through people’s minds when they see this side, and this side only, of the LGBT community.
And that pisses me off.
IK, the fact that you preface an offensive comment with “no offense” just shows that you’re passive-aggressive wanker. The fact that you entirely missed the point of what I said, and the point of the numerous well-stated, intelligent comments after mine shows that you have piss-poor reading comprehension skills as well.
If you honestly think that parade was “all about sex”, then you “child”, have a much different conception of what sex is than 97% of the populace. I would truly love to hear what you thought the “naughty” parts of the parade were (please feel free to refer to the footage of the parade on youtube if you need a refresher).
Was it the dozens of parents and children in colorful t-shirts emblazoned with bank and other corporate logos? The marching bands? Perhaps you felt the senior citizens on the pirate ship were too sexy? Were all those people dancing happily on the back of flatbed trailers festooned with balloons “crossing a line”? Or maybe it was that dirty, dirty bridge commission float that made you feel funny in your pants….
If you’re going to make claims of cheap and blatant sexuality on display, at least provide some examples to back it up. Otherwise, you just look like a puritanical nutbar.
I totall agree with you OP. Those PRIDE events only strengthen the negative stereotypes the public has of LBGT people and draws out all the flamboyant gays for drugs and sex, and who want nothing more but to keep those stereotypes going. My friends and I don’t bother with these so called PRIDE events because we understand that a person’s sexuality is only a part of the person. Do we have parades for people with black hair? Blonde hair? Red hair? Of course not. PRIDE and their over the top parades are outdated.
At least nobody got shot, unlike the carabana festival in TO.
Sebastian, you’re such a predictable little troll. If you’re even a queer man, you’ve got to be the most sad, self-loathing gay recluse in Haligonia. It must be terribly lonely under that self-righteous little bridge of yours for you to keep posting here when it’s clear that not a single person respects or appreciates your commentary. I’d almost feel bad for you if you weren’t such a total dink.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivation…
the bear just got back from san fran, cool city and they have an awesome transit system
SD, I was not here for the first parade but I’ve read the bags were indicative of the fear that permeated the LBGT community at the time if their identities were exposed. We’ve come a long way since those days.
i remember the late 70’s parades in to, oceansis. it was more like running the gauntlet
Since stereotypes continue to be brought up in this thread:
We all live up to some stereotype or another at various points in our lives. For example, a few commenters on this thread are doing a great job of playing out the stereotype of the slow-witted Maritimer who is easily scandalized by anything outside his own limited experience.
The danger is not in embodying some aspect of a stereotype, it’s in assuming that a stereotype is true for all members of a group, or is a person’s defining characteristic. The onus is not on the marginalized group to avoid doing or saying anything stereotypical. The onus to behave differently is on the narrow-minded fools who think that somebody putting on a pair of glittery hotpants to have fun in a parade one day of the year defines who they are the other 364 days.
As a woman, should I feel that I’ve let down my gender because I love to spend time cooking in the kitchen (often barefoot no less!)? Should all Asian folks strive for lower grades in school, and cease taking photos on vacation?
Perhaps some people act flamboyantly in a parade because an aspect of their personality is that they are, in fact, flamboyant (also, maybe that it’s a fucking PARADE, but I digress). Should someone not be themselves out of fear that some ignorant jerk will see a gay person acting flamboyant and assume that all gays are flamboyant? Something tells me that people like that will form their own conclusions about gay folks anyway, regardless of how they actually behave. If all the queer folks in Halifax started “toning it down” out of fear of what a few knuckle-draggers think, that would kind of defeat the purpose of ‘Pride’, don’t you think?
yes i say ❥yes
I personally think gestures like dry humping the air is inapropriate for scantily dressed hooters girls, why should i make an exception for a pride parade?
Absolutely meOw!
A longer than normal post doesnt automatically mean that it is any good,imo.
As a gay man, I’m rather appalled by the narrow-mindedness of some people in society nowadays. However, that said, I certainly understand and appreciate people having varying view of what it ‘right’.
I went to the parade this year, as I have for the past 5 years. This year was much less about sex as it has been in years. I didn’t see one person wearing assless chaps as one person claimed (besides, for christ’s sake, everyone has a goddamn ass anyways… not much of a scandal there). What I did see were a lot of wonderful, contributing members of society having a good time.
So, why am I proud? And why do I celebrate PRIDE?…
I am beyond proud of the people who came before me who fought, who bled, who died… so that I could be accepted as a normal human being. So that I could fall in love with the man of my dreams and not fear being jailed or stoned to death. So that I could marry my partner whom I share everything with. That’s why I’m proud.
It’s not about BEING gay, it’s about the precedent… overcoming the oppression. It’s one big giant celebration of acceptance… and what’s not to be proud about that?
I was in the parade and I didn’t see a lot of the stuff you people are talking about!
All the civil & well behaved gay people stay home during pride week in Halifax. They are too busy living their gay lives to have to prove to anyone that they are gay.
Put that where you wanna.
So, according to sebastard, being gay is only one part of a person, yet being fat is the whole sum of a person.
No, that’s not hypocritical at ALL.
I missed the pride parade in toronto by a few days and that made me sad 🙁
I’m with wheelie, though. This year’s parade was all corporations. It’s changed SO much from even a few years ago, unfortunately. 🙁
Also, I want to add that there are many kinds of people in this world including many types of gay people. For instance, my gay husband is a complete diva, but he’s not into hair and clothes, though he’s an excellent shopping partner and a self-proclaimed bitch. However, he said he thinks some of the crap that goes on in pride parades are kind of eye roll-worthy.
It all depends on the person, really.
And sebastard’s just cranky because the only thing he ever gets shoved up his ass is either his own fist or a jar of jam and a potato.
COGNITIVE CLARITY, CONCEPTUAL DRIFT, AND REVERSE STEREOTYPING
: MeOw (1:01PM)
“We all live up to some stereotypes or another at various points in our lives.”
MeOw’s pronouncement is to be taken as a criticism of those who protested against the “Gay Parade” but, of course, not against her own views. But, contrary to meOw’s views, the protests were never about “sterotyping” as such. Rather they were about what some would call “over the top” demonstrations of their sexuality. Let’s work through the numbers:
1. Cognitive Clarity – The Gay Parade is – I hope you are sitting down meOw – a parade that celebrates sexuality. Do you understand that? In this case it’s homosexuality and its variants. The Parade – are you still with me meOw? – must therefore celebrate homosexual relations. You do understand that as well, don’t you? So, let’s take it to its logical conclusion as I did in my previous post and celebrate fellatio, anal intercourse, cunnilingus and so on. That is what is about. You do understand that, don’t you meOw?
2. Cognitive Drift – MeOw bangs on about her stereotyping up to and including her comment to the effect that all Chinese “should strive for lower grades in school and cease taking photos on vacation.” That is amusing meOw but it also is called “cognitive drift”. It has nothing to do with the topic. Do you understand that, don’t you meOw?
3. Reverse Stereotyping – As a champion against stereotyping meOw proceeds, no doubt unaware of her own self-contradiction – to sterotype all those who might have reasons to pause in their applause of the Gay Pride Parade. The reasons they have to pause – are you still there meOw?-
go back to my original point, i.e. that a celebration of sexuality must either be empty or be a celebration of its various manifestations. You do understand that, don’t you, meOw?
Probably, in your lock-step political correctness, you probably don’t.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
I’m finding this all very difficult to masturbate to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p91dALxUp4M…
You guys sure read alot into a bitch about parade goers dry hunping air and claiming it is family friendly. About the only on topic bitch i have read is from one gentleman than stated that he went this year, and there wasnt anyone dry humping the air.
My point:not every bitch about the pride parade is challenge toward the parade or the LGBT community. All the shifted topic responses are based on inferral rather than the actual words in the OB.
RSVPs
: Great Value (10:39AM)
“All the shifted topic responses are based on inferral rather than the actual words of the OP.”
By “inferral” I take it Great Value means “inference” but it is still not clear what he is saying. Is he some sort of literalist i.e. one must use only the “actual words” of the OP in any comment?
In any case, it might come as a suprise to GV but there’s another word for “inference.” I hope he’s sitting down. It’s called “thought.”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Just because something is inferred, does not mean it has been implied. The OB specifically went out of his way to acknowledge that he wasnt a LGBT hater, yet alot of the post seem to be inferring alot more than just defence of dry humping the air.
RSVPs
: Great Value (4:50PM) – Oh dear, anothet “infer”/”imply” conundrum. “Infer” according to the Oxford Concise means “to deduce, conclude, imply.” Did you notice the last word?
On the other hand GV, “Imply” means “to involve the truth, to mean.” Now tell us GV, just what is the difference? Take your time.
You state that “a lot of the post(s) seem to be interpreting alot(sic) more than just a defence of dry humping in the air.”
Can you possibly tell us, GV, whatever that might mean?
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
I go to the Pride Parade just for the bitches.
Not the LTWWBitches I hung out with but the chicks. Though I did have a blast with wheeliep, kitteh and orgasmangatron.
MondeMon, it is clear to me that you have inferred more than i have implied. 🙂
If I have offended or insulted you somehow, i will be happy to clarify and apologize.
Montreal Man said:
“RSVPs
: Great Value (4:50PM) – Oh dear, anothet “infer”/”imply” conundrum. “Infer” according to the Oxford Concise means “to deduce, conclude, imply.” Did you notice the last word?
On the other hand GV, “Imply” means “to involve the truth, to mean.” Now tell us GV, just what is the difference? Take your time.”
MM,
Pulling definitions out of your ass again? The Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary defines both “infer” and “imply” and points out that, although the two words are sometimes treated as synonyms this usage is, in fact, wrong.
Great Value,
I wouldn’t worry unduly about offending or insulting Montreal Man. He won’t give you the same consideration. Of course, you must decide your own course in this matter.
GV – You have offended & insulted our little Gollum. You posted beyond its comprehension, and it get angry when it doesn’t understand.
It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. Yes, it will, Precious, won’t it? It will get the hose!
What a retard.
“When’s the last time YOU told the bedtime story of “Sado-Johnny”; a man whose only super power is dry-humping air on all fours and sporting a spiked metal crotch with a ball strapped tightly into his mouth, to your 5 year old??”
“It’s your ugly kid, you tell ’em”
HAhaha, I’ve been to a couple of pride parades in other cities and this one was extremely tame. The most risqué thing in this parade was a woman pretending to whip another woman in a full leather bodysuit (no skin) who was tied up against something.
A man in a speedo pretending to whip two girls walking in front of him. Some clothed poll dancers. giant condom (doesn’t really count as that’s more about health). Those are literally all the things I saw in this parade that were directly related to sex. The only dog collars were worn by dogs and there were no ass-less chaps.
Maybe I’m just more relaxed about this sort of thing than the OP is but, none of those things are going to traumatize your children. I honestly don’t think this bitch is about the children at all. I think this bitch is about OP being uncomfortable seeing same-sex-fully-clothed-pretend-bondage (or those imaginary ass-less chaps) in the presence of their children. This is about you OP, not your kids, your kids are fine.
The other 98% of the parade were people in various costumes, drag, couples of all ages walking hand in hand. The “It Gets Better Project” made an appearance, live music, people who want to end the blood ban, one woman was walking for all of the LGBT people in other countries who cannot be openly gay without being jailed or executed, lots of local bushiness and radio stations showed their support. I could go on and on and on.
Calling this a “sex parade” is a huge exaggeration.
To walk away from all of those heartwarming displays of support with nothing but outrage after seeing two whips and some leather is really discouraging. OP, if that crosses the line for what your definition of what family friendly is then that’s fine I guess. But personally, I think you are overreacting.
I’d be too stoked that my kids were exposed to such a great show of acceptance and community spirit to worry about a little sexual humour.
And as far as kids being exposed to sexuality, I think a child being exposed to it at this particular pride parade is much better and healthier than the way most kids experience it… which in the internet age is usually hardcore porn websites. If you think your kids haven’t watched porn by age ten your fooling yourself. Not owning a computer and my parents being extremely involved and diligent didn’t stop it from happening to me, and that was in the nineties…
Off topic…
Basically my point is, chill out OP… your kids are fine. Although if you make a big deal about this in front of them, you’re going to do way more damage than the “sex parade” or those imaginary ass-less chaps could ever do.
RSVPs
: Great Value (8:57PM) – No offence or insult taken GV as I always enjoy a good bun-fight over things like the imply/infer distinction. You implied, I inferred. Got it. Damn these cheap dictionaries!
; The Unctuous Arse (9:22PM) – My God, I can just visualize The Unctuous Arse crashing over the furniture as he made a dash to retrieve his “Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary.” I knew he’d be waiting somewhere in the bushes, ready to spring when the opportunity arose. I guess I’m going to have to spank him again when the occasion arises. The twat.
: The Turd (9:27PM) – A “little Golem?” Would it be possible to indicate (imply? infer?) adult references so that your posts are intelligible to mature readers? Thank you very much.
: Snoop (10:16PM) – Although her post was not directed toward me – at least I don’t think so – she comes on in her usual ultra-politically correct fashion, in this case taking the OP to task for being so narrow and closed-minded. You must understand that Snoop is not closed-minded.
She claims that the Gay Pride Parade has nothing to do with sex but it is not clear how she arrives at this conclusion.
Let me illustrate: Let’s say Halifax had a “Baker’s Pride Parade.” The various floats would feature harvesting the wheat, grinding it into flour, kneading the dough, and baking it in the oven – and there it is, a loaf of bread, the object of the Baker`s Pride. Do you see the connection? The concept “Baker” makes sense only in terms of the activities which constitute it. Otherwise it is meaningless.
So it is with the Gay Pride Parade. For it to make sense it must depict the activities which constitute the concept “Gay” i.e., homosexual. Those activities which distinguish it ( at least most of the time) from heterosexuality are anal intercourse, fellatio, and cunnilingus. If one is to celebrate being “Gay” one must, by logical necessity, celebrate its constitutive activities.
But Snoop drawn herself up indignantly and protests OP’s closed-minded homophobia. This is a logical fallacy. One can be against the public depiction of homosexual activities without being “homophobic.” In the same way one can be against the public depiction of heterosexual activities and on the same grounds: they are in bad taste, they are vulgar.
To say that the Gay Pride Parade is simply a celebration of “gay rights” also misses the point. If such “rights” are to be understood as the opportunity to freely engage in fellatio, anal intercourse, and cunnilingus, then fine. But please, keep it in the bedroom and not Spring Garden Road.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Montrealman “a little Golem?” The original Clayboy of Prague? Oh you swinging Czech bothers.
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/images/geu…
Montreal Man said:
“RSVPs
: Great Value (8:57PM) – No offence or insult taken GV as I always enjoy a good bun-fight over things like the imply/infer distinction. You implied, I inferred. Got it. Damn these cheap dictionaries!
; The Unctuous Arse (9:22PM) – My God, I can just visualize The Unctuous Arse crashing over the furniture as he made a dash to retrieve his “Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary.” I knew he’d be waiting somewhere in the bushes, ready to spring when the opportunity arose. I guess I’m going to have to spank him again when the occasion arises. The twat.”
That’s actually funny to picture but it wasn’t that dramatic or physical.
I correct your numerous errors as casually as you make them and I’m glad to be of service.
Now get lost you TW*T!*
*twit
Gollum, not Golem, you retarded paramecium.
Maybe if you read a book or three, you’d know the difference.
Imply – Strongly suggest the truth or existence of (something not expressly stated).
Infer – Deduce or conclude (information) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.
Poor Gollum, can’t keep the definition straight from the time it reads them, to the time it tries to use them.
an author implies
a reader infers
try not to overthunk it
“The Gay Parade is…a parade that celebrates sexuality.”
“The Parade…must therefore celebrate homosexual relations.” -MM
For a philosopher, you’re not very deep, are you, MM? If you want to take an excessively simplistic view of things, then perhaps the parade could be said to “celebrate homosexuality”. However, I think that’s kind of like saying Black History month is about skin pigmentation through the ages. Sexuality and and sexual activity are not one and the same; sexuality encompasses a great deal more than mere intercourse. You do understand that, don’t you, MM?
I think it’s far more accurate to say that the Gay Pride parade is a celebration of queer and trans people asserting their humanity in the public sphere, an environment in which they’ve so frequently faced shame and degradation. It’s also about expressions of identity, community building, and, as others have said previously, it’s largely about overcoming oppression. Your attempts to reduce it to a celebration of sex acts only make you look like an utter simpleton.
Your “Baker” analogy is also absurd, but I’m quite sure you knew that when you made it. Being a baker is an occupation, not an undeniable aspect of one’s self. In order to be a baker, one must undertake the activity of baking, but one can be gay without ever engaging in a sex act. You do understand that, don’t you, MM?
In any case, it is quite obviously not the gays or their parades that are vulgar, MM, it is you. You’re like a slightly better educated Sebastard, with a fondness for whippets rather than boys (or perhaps both, who knows?). The frequency of your posts and the obvious effort you devote to them, your cloying, desperate loneliness insufficiently disguised with an air of smug superiority…terribly sad, MM. Terribly sad.
RSVPs
: Scrotum (10:13AM) – “Clayboy of Prague?” Sounds a bit Slavic to me.
: The Unctuous Arse ((10:33AM) – I’m nominating the Arse for the 2011 Golden Douche Awards in the “Pompous Category.” You’ll be joining pretteh kitteh who’s in The “Scholar Category.” Congratulations, and good luck.
: The Turd (10:49AM) – Do try and make your references adult-level, will you Turd? There’s the lad. (“Gollum?”)
: Great Value 12:22PM) – But can a reader then go on to imply his inference of the writer’s implication tom a third party who then proceeds to draw his own inferences from it? Does the reverse causal chain also hold? Write back.
: MeOw (12:17PM) – Oh dear, here comes the ad hominem accusations. I’m “not very deep,” my views are “excessively simplistic,” my analogies are “absurd,” I am “vulgar” and, my God, my “cloying desparate lonliness is intensely sad.” Can you imageine what all this is doing to my self-esteem, MeOw?
Snoop, I think we have a new friend for you.
A pleasure as always,
Cheerio!
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To…the…retarded… paramecium. A.K.A. – Montremoleman.
I’m…wri…ting…slow…be…cause…I..know..you…can’t…read…fast.
As…I…said…be…for…READ…A…BOOK, you socially and intellectually challenged single celled invertebrate.
THE NEW PURITANS
Oh mine eyes have seen the Glory
Of the Coming of the Lord,
He is trampling out the Vintage
Where the Grapes of Wrath are Stored.
I concluded my reply to MeOw’s post (August 2, 12:27PM) with what I thought was a humourous reference to my “self-esteem” but, on reflection and realizing that people like her – the New Puritans – have no sense of humour, I thought it best to add a few comments. My reference to “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” will appear at the end of this post.
First, the New Puritans should be distinguished from the Old: the venom of the latter’s ironclad certainty of their own doctrinal purity was directed at those who failed to observe the proper religious observance. Such a failure to denounce (to say nothing of actually practicing) things like homosexuality – an “abomination” to the Old Puritan – would be met with eternal hellfire. The Old Puritan, while originating in 17th century Massachusetts, can still be seen today in Christian and Islamic fundamentalism where the forces of the Devil must be put to the sword.
In contrast, the New Puritanism celebrates the very things the Old Puritanism denounced – it might even be called an “Inverted Puritanism” – but not, of course, on the grounds of religious orthodoxy. Rather, the New Puritan of which meOw is an excellent example, rebukes the evil-doer on the basis of a rigidly-observed social conformity, on what might be called the “Dictatorship of the Righteous.” But make no mistake: the New Puritanism is just as violent, humourless and vicious as the Old. For those who would oppose the New Puritanism are not just mistaken, they are EVIL. This might be seen by a comparison of their methods which, in effect, are identical.
The New Puritan, like the Old, can never debate an issue on intellectual grounds because that’s not where they’re coming from. They are coming from the position of a rigid doctrinal belief system which will brook no opposition. So, meOw, in the usual fashion, resorts to the classic Puritan methodology of vilification, slander, demonization and misrepresentation. It worked for the Old Puritanism and – in view of the fact that we have meOw as a current example – it looks like it might work for the New. But make no mistake: like all rigid orthoxodies, meOw’s New Puritanism is very dangerous for our democratic society.
Let’s take misrepresentation. Of course, meOw misrepresented my position throughout. The reason for this is that she is unable to distinguish the concept of homosexuality from the Gay Pride Parade. I fully enbdorse the rights of homosexuals to exercise those rights as full human beings but I think the Gay Pride Parade is an exercise in bad taste. For meOw THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! She can’t (or won’t) make the distinction between the two and therefore I am to be condemned as EVIL.
Let’s take another brief example. She claims that, in my comparison of baking and homosexuality that I was being purposively deceitful, being disingenuous. But she is wrong. I was simply making the conceptual point that homosexuality, like baking, can be understood, can make sense, only in terms of the activities which constitute it. It was – are you sitting down? – a philosophical point and I should have realized that people like meOw don’t operate at that level.
But where does this doctrinaire viewpoint come from? The Battle Hymn of the Republic contains the answer. The New Puritanism, like the Old, comes from a smouldering WRATH. Like the other New Puritans, meOw’s inability to enterain other views comes from the deep well-springs of her abiding anger which fuels her rage against those who do not submit to her Dictatorship of the Righteous.
Beware of these people!
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Wow – that was actually quite funny, Annie 😉 in a 1950’ish sort of way.
So, let me get this straight, me0w is the ‘New Puritan’ and you’re the ‘Old Puritan’, OK – got it 🙂 Carry on as if you knew what you’re doing.
I enjoyed the parade. Perhaps the corporations playing a bigger role in this parade is a positive sign that being gay is as normal as apple pie and there’s no shame in it anymore? Would these same companies be associated with such a thing 20 years ago? Most likely not.
However, I do have to add that one thing that has been bothering me lately is the ongoing association between anything gay-related and sex. Of course, being gay is literally a sexual attraction to someone of the same sex. You can’t have sexual orientation without sex. But being gay has come to mean so much more. There’s an entire gay culture that has resulted in the stereotypes based on interest and such (type of music gay people like, interests, career-choices, etc). None of these are really *negative* and I personally don’t take offense to any of them. With all of this comes gay-targeted things like magazines, tv shows, movies, and parades. I’ve been wondering lately as to why these things always have sexual images and ads in them. If it’s a magazine focused on gay-centric news and articles that simply deal directly with folks that are out, there are still direct-sexual ads in them. As if anything that is gay-related is directly associated with sex.
I’m no prude. This doesn’t offend me in the least. But I do wonder, what does S&M (chains and whips) have to do with being gay? Straight people do this too. Straight people have sex and love is as much I’m sure. Why can’t there be a gay publication that celebrates being gay, celebrates the success of gay folks and the advances of the LGBT community without throwing in ads for hook-up sites or have photos of the stereotypical twink or bear in sexually suggestive poses? As someone above mentioned, I do feel like it cheapens it. I take Pride in the respect earned by the gay community and the chance to feel like a normal citizen but I feel like it’s somewhat put in jeopardy by the constant sex.
I’m gay but I simply don’t feel that being gay should be constantly associated with sex at every single mention of “gay”.
themax,
The gay rights movement happened to coincide with a sort of sexual revolution for many sub-genres of the kink community and for women as well. The gay rights movement was not a bunch of homosexual individuals fighting for their rights. It was a big mess of homosexuals, transgendered people, transvestites, bisexuals, straight and gay female feminists, straight and gay male feminists, and every offshoot of the kink community I won’t name because there’s too many but the main one that comes to mind is BDSM.
Some of the first supporters of gay rights were feminists who identified with the deprivation of rights (from way back when) and the desire for sexual freedom and control; the right to contraception, abortion, getting rid of the female masturbation stigma, stopping sexual violence etc.
The kink community was also a big supporter of gay rights early on. Again gay (obviously) and straight kinksters sympathized with being in the closet about a certain sexual act or interest that was at the time considered taboo – see BDSM which went from super taboo to mild point of interest.
And although being gay is not a sexual act, it was sexual acts some homophobic bible thumping republicans imagined gay people doing that gave birth to some of their more heinous arguments against the movement (sodomy is a sin, anti procreation, gay people = pedophiles etc.). If anyone overemphasizes sex when it comes to gay people it’s them
Since the homophobic assholes also happened to be sexist assholes and sex negative kink shamers; these oppressed groups all banded together for support. It also helped that a lot of gay women were also feminists and that kinksters come in all types. Also that a lot of gay people, feminists, and kinksters shared the same sex positive liberal-ish values that were so directly in conflict with the right wing majority.
While I can understand wanting to distance gay culture from sex to clean up it’s image in hopes of it being more accepted by mainstream culture. I also don’t think that gay culture should HAVE to distance itself from it’s roots in order to conform to the standards of the douchbags who want to oppress it either way. I also don’t think that doing that is worth rejecting the support of the movements earliest supporters.
So, I don’t see the emphasis gay culture has on sex as a frivolous or bad thing at all. It’s part of the history of the movement, and if people don’t approve of that fuck them! We’d all be still stuck in the dark ages if we worried too much about what other people approved of anyway.
Personally I think that it would do a great deal of good if society were to chill a little when it comes to sexual topics, but that’s a whole other rant.
Montreal Man is way ahead of Me0w in points.
Well, if you shoot more bullets you’re going to hit more shit. It’s a sleazy debating tactic. Basically you overwhelm your opponent with so many points that fact checking and coming up with a rebuttal for each of them is physically impossible without a time machine, or on the internet unemployment. The bullets suffer in argumentative quality but it’s impossible to deflect them all so the sleazebag wins by default. This is what debaters do when they don’t actually have a solid argument.
RSVPs
: Themax (3:26PM) – I agree 100%
: Snoop (9:59PM) – The comment was for Themax so I won’t reply. But Snoop will be
back. She’s a New Puritan and won’t be able to hold in her WRATH.
: Donairious (10:10PM) – I agree 100%
: Snoop (10:23PM) – Ah, here she comes. Here comes the usual vilification. I employ “sleazy” debating tactics. The reason I do this, of course, is that I’m a “sleazebag.” Donairious, are you going to award her any points for that?
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
‘The reason I do this, of course, is that I’m a “sleazebag.” ‘ – Duh, well yeah. Glad that you’ve cleared that up.
Now, if only you’d realize what an imbecile you really are.
No points for name calling.
“No points for name calling” – Poop, I still have a bunch of good ones I haven’t used yet.
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The only thing worst than it raining after you washed your car …is having to poop as soon as you get out of the shower…..lmao
RSPs
: Donairious(3:331PM) – “No points for name calling.”
Excellent, Donainarious. Would you be interested in serving on the jury for the upcoming “Golden Douche Awards?” Write back soon.
As a matter of colleratal interest I note that three (3) threads have been deleted by the Moderator in the “Most Discussed” category, ie. “Halifax RMG: Do Your Job,” “L’homme de Montreal Please Go Home,” and “Goin Hunting on Friday.”
All placed in the top ten and the last was #1. Anyone see a pattern here?
Right! Montrealman was central to each one. Any thoughts on that Madame Moderator?
No, I didn’t think so.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Wow, what a grandly delusional narcissistic assumption. But considering where it came from, I shouldn’t be supprised.
Here’s something to chew on annie.
Since an education is not equated to knowledge, and imagination is greater than knowledge.
An active imagination is better than an education 😉
Montreal Man, it would be an honour! Count me in thank you.
It’s funny because I haven’t actually read or responded to anything MM has said so far but every time I scroll past one of his posts I see the word “Snoop”.
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: Donairious (Aug. 4, 9:30PM) – Welcome aboard! Keep your eye out for possible contenders, gather evidence of their doucheness, and submit a brief but scathing written report.(Don’t forget the category.) I will copy it down and include at the 2011 Annual Golden Douche Awards ceremony to be held in December. I have already reserved the Spryfield Fire Hall for the occasion. Would you like to be
presenter? Cheerio!
: Snoop(9:55PM) – I think Snoop is feeling cornered. Unable to respond to my “The New Puritans,” she claims to have never read my posts but just scrolled past them. But this is simply false. What is she doing now but replying to my post? Hasn’t she read it? But I wasn’t thinking so much of this thread but rather
our exchange on “The C-Word” where, incredibly, she claimed the same thing! But here, unsuprisingly, Snoop is simply piggy-backing her andropobic (man-hating) feminism onto the cause of homosexual oppression. The reason is simple: the proponents of radical homosexualism (the dancers in the Gay Pride Parade) and androphobc feminism have the same target: white heterosexual males. No doubt Snoop is also against African-American oppression, and for the same reason. (Make sure you understand what I’m saying before replying. But I know you won’t
read this comment. Why, you’ll just scroll on by. Sure.)
P.S. – Don’t bother looking for “The C-Word” in “Most Discussed.” It was there but, like the others I named, it has been deleted and presmably for the same reason. Not a peep yet from Madame Moderator. But “Pride My Ass” HAS made the list. I wonder how long it will last before it’s deleted as well.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
THE STRANGE CASE OF “MONTREALMAN” AND/OR “MONSIEUR DE MONTREAL”
Just a preliminary note: the word is “androphobic” which I mis-spelt twice. My keys got stuck posting the comment leading to errors. In fact they are still sticking. Anyone else have this problem?
I note that I am now back to being called “Montrealman.” A short time ago I got
high-speed and was given a “hotmail” address which replaced my old “sympatico” address but Bitch wouldn’t accept it. I had to change my pseudonym to “Monsieur de Montreal.” Now, for some reason, I’m “Montrealman” again.
It’s like being born again!
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Thanks for the heads up Annie. We were just about to call in Ed Glosser- Trivial Psychic to help break this case.
http://jerseyshore.metromix.com/content_im…
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: Scrotm (Aug. 5, 12:41PM) – “Ed Glosser?” Sorry Scrotum, but I don’t watch much TV. “Jersey Shores?”
The Strange Case of “Montrealman”/”Monsieur de Montréal” (Cont’d.)
I just finished attempting to post a comment indicating that I was going to select my “hotmail” address and so bring up “Monsieur de Montréal” signature but it was rejected. This means that I will not be able to access my archive from May 10 to August 4, 2011. How about that!
I’ll now select my “sympatico” address even though it’s not my actual current address. Got that? Wish me luck.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
P.S. The keys are still sticking.
try unplugging your keyboard and then plug it back in. i was having trouble with keys sticking, and that worked for me
RSVPs
: Paingirl (Aug.6, 10:40AM) – Thanks Paingirl, but I commented on “Dumb Bitches” with no sticking or skipping. I note that I skipped on “Scrotum” on my last post on this thread. Was he upset?
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Again I would be honoured, MM! I’ll do my best looking out for nominees.
Nope Annie, not upset at all. And your Wynnie is a class act.