Dear extreme right-wing Republican youth, you leave me shocked and bewildered. Stop trying to shut down Planned Parenthood agencies and public abortion clinics by claiming that they are the hub of prostitution in the United States. I have great difficulty understanding precisely your problem with these programs. Do you really think suspending state-paid abortions will reduce crime? Do you think prostitutes will cease to exist? Of course not, only the girls will then be encumbered by children that they didn’t want and can’t take care of. Keep in mind these children are just as much a part of the future as you are. Do you have no second thoughts about inhibiting a woman’s right to control her reproduction? This is the other outcome which your proposals will have. Believe it or not, these programs are used by women who are not prostitutes, and who are just as educated in regard to their sexuality as you think you are. There have been pimps and whores since the dawn of time, they will exist whether or not these government programs exist. Woman’s ownership and control of her sexuality is something much more recent, and this freedom depends much more heavily on its institutionalization in government and culture. Yours perplexed, —A Woman

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  1. Mystifies me too OP. Logic says that if children are that important, even the unborn ones, then some provision should be made for their proper care and education. Other than by building more penitentiaries. Make no mistake, I don’t begrudge a penny that goes to law enforcement. Society has moved so far beyond the notion of personal responsibility that at some point we are going to be forced with a choice between tyranny or anarchy and the political slant of the tyranny really doesn’t mean squat. As just another fucked over taxpayer I’d probably prefer to pay for daycares and schools rather than abortion as birth control and prisons as corrals for the socially aberrant. The right’s answers aren’t working and the left are too stupid and stoned to do anything more than cling to their ideology and continue penalizing the law abiding.
    And I’m rambling like a crazy man without the benifit of spiritous liquors. Sorry OP, Bitchers.
    Crap Fucking Day.

  2. Wow Ivan i hope your day gets better, i suggest a good book and a cup of tea/whisky.

    I read somewhere once (will dig to get the link) about how they banned abortion clinics in the republic of ireland and it never stopped abortions, people were either taking them illegally which was a big big health concern or flying/boating to the UK in order to have one.

  3. Holy Fuck Anglo – I think your avatar did more good than both >: ). Thanks mate – needed that.

  4. Legalizing prostitution would help get rid of the sterotyped “pimp”.

    But that is just my opinion.

  5. ..fuck i hat the religious right/moral majority faction. the morons poison any hope for fiscal/social conservatives such as myself ..and the lefty media loves to group the two

  6. I agree with completely FA. Everything that people hate about prostitution is because it’s illegal. Diseases, the beating of women, drug addiction, murders – all because it’s illegal. If it was regulated and the sex workers were tested and monitored, there woudn’t be any issue. Well, other than women blaming hookers on their husbands’ infidelity but that’s a whole thang ;D. I’ve heard the argument from adults that if it was legal, it’s not something that they wanted their children getting into. But there’s strippers and porn stars! Being a porn star is basically being a hooker, except everybody gets to see it. I believe this was on a recent Family Guy. If you want a hooker, just make sure you film your actions and then it’s just porn and you can’t get in trouble ;D!

  7. lol Exactly. Prostitution is just two consenting adults exchanging money for sex. I don’t see why it shouldn’t be legalized and regulated like the porn industry.

  8. well now, how to respond here? firstly, they are legally protesting something, whether or not, you or i react on it or not. secondly, it is sposed to be a free society that we live in, hence first statement of fact. thirdly, if it personally doesn’t affect you or your daily lifestyle, then why bother getting all fucking worked up over it? and a last recommendation, if you don’t like hearing, seeing shit like this, then don’t look or listen to it.

  9. Well — to further your point, ‘matron — what about a guy who takes a girl out for supper, pays for her meal, buys her flowers, pays for a ticket to a movie or something, pays for parking, etc… and then she fucks him at the end of the night… one COULD argue that THAT is exchanging money for sex in a way…

    Someone said to me once: there’s no such thing as ‘free sex” — we all pay for it some way or another.

    Food for thought, I guess.

  10. And, if you slant your thinking a certain way, even a golden ring can be considered a payment for sex.
    In which case, I really undercharged = p

  11. Wasn’t Planned Parenthood the eventual bi-product of the old sterilization laws in the US?

  12. Oh, and OP, keep in mind that the extreme right-wing Republican youth have been brainwashed from infancy by their extreme right-wing republican parents (who have been brainwashed by their extreme right-wing Republican parents and so on) and haven’t put much thought into their positions on the subject beyond “God says so”. No amount of logical debate and rational discussion is going to change their warped little minds. Trust me I know, because I was one of them.

    Know that churches actually specifically recruit young parishioners to join their various anti-choice organizations. They’re smart like that. See they know the pews are thinning, so if they have an arsenal of young people who all believe furiously that abortion and birth control usage are punishable by hellfire, they can at least look forward to large clutches of unexpected babies fresh for baptism – because no amount of hellfire is going to get those horny “abstaining” teens to keep their pants on.

    It would be great if there was anything resembling critical thinking and actual debate in local youth parish meetings. I have attended “pro-life” meetings in my hometown when I was a teenager and they are far from hubs of intellectual conversation and spirited debate. Lets see, there were two stacks of 8.5×10″ glossy photographs of fetuses. A “happy” pile and a “sad” pile. The happy pile was full of pictures of fetuses in varying stages of development in the womb, the host would lovingly list of all the things the baby already had like fingernails and toes etc. Everyone would “awwww” at each picture. Then we were shown the sad pile, a bunch of pictures of the “aftermath” of an abortion, basically decapitated and torn up fetus out of the womb, or a bloody mangled baby (not surprisingly I never got into the ‘dead baby’ joke fad after seeing that). Many of these pictures I can still find on Google images and the ones I could trace were not taken in countries where women have access to early legal abortion, most were results of abortions performed illegally by people who weren’t doctors. The funny thing is, that these groups are against ALL abortion, not just late term abortion, but all of the pictures shown were of late term. We were given the false impression that most abortions in Canada were just like the sad pile of pictures. They told us that after a girl has an abortion she becomes suicidal, infertile, depressed, etc. We were convinced that stopping women from having abortions would not only save the baby from being murdered (because doctors that perform abortions are murderers, by the way) but we were saving the mother all the grief listed above AND saving her soul from eternal damnation in hell. None of us teenagers there had ever really thought about whether abortion was right or wrong before this, never been exposed to the other side of things, the only time we got to speak was at the end of the meeting when we had to say a group prayer for all the unborn babies in the history of the world.

    There was not a realistic portrayal of abortion in Canada, outright lies were told about women being depressed etc. afterward, followup statistics have shown no significant decrease in emotional well-being. No mention about how if abortion is criminalized women will just go some place where it is legal and do it anyway. And those that can’t travel will start having self induced abortions or abortions in unsafe conditions by unqualified people (coat-hangers, need I say more?). In cases where the abortion attempt is unsuccessful, because that tends to happen when people don’t know what the fuck they’re doing, the fetus may end up being horribly damaged from the attempt and born with various deformities or injuries, OR the mother and fetus will both die.

    And these people call themselves “pro-life”

  13. So the main point I was going to make before I started ranting and getting off topic, was that the best way to combat this shit is in the ballet box when the time comes. Make this issue a priority and find out where who you are voting for stands. Also donate to Planned Parenthood:

    https://secure.ppaction.org/site/SPageServ…

    They could really use it right now, they’ve been the victim of a number of stawman attacks from the religious right recently.

  14. I’ve said that all women & men prostitute themselves before on this forum & been shit on here for that opinion…But I don’t care about that & just because most people may sugar coat it by calling it something else…but IMO unless you just take someone home & fuck them, with nothing exchanged except (hopefully) mutually satisfying sex. Anything else is a form of Prostitution…You’ve been PAID by a dinner, or a show, services, a place to live together, etc !

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