Wow. Please next time you consider lighting up in a large apartment complex, try and think of the lives you are shortening other than your own. I am 20 and have been healthy and active all my life–NOW I HAVE SYMPTOMS OF ASTHMA due to the fact smoke enters my apartment from your disgusting tarred lungs. My throat BURNS because of you. It’s especially worse on rainy days and cold nights hmmm i wonder why?…ohhh right because you decide to smoke in the “warmth of your apartment” not caring or giving a thought as to what you are actually doing which by the way is not allowed in this building. AND PEOPLE WHO SMOKE AT 2AM wtf Thanks for making me wake up to a feeling of suffocation and anger as I realize what is going on. UGHHHHHHH right now i can smell your poison coming up through the piping! STUPID inconsiderate pricks!!!!!
—BURNING THROAT, DIFFICULTY BREATHING
This article appears in Nov 5-11, 2009.
calm down you fucking asshole. “AND PEOPLE WHO SMOKE AT 2AM” not everyone has a cushy assed M-F day job.
If it actually is not allowed (you’re probably pulling that out of your ass) maybe try talking to your building manager instead of posting bitches on the coast about it. You are a fucking cry baby.
This is a building where smoking is allowed — you should have known this when you moved in. If there’s smoking allowed in the building your in then people are going to smoke….it’s no rocket science. You don’t like it? Move the fuck out.
LOL. I kinda want to find out who you are, light up a smoke, and blow it in your face. 🙂
Did you choose where you live or did someone force you to live there? I think chose would be the correct answer, and in that case maybe you should choose to go apartment hunting again and find somewhere that doesn’t allow smoking. Next time do your homework. Simple right? I thought so.
Yeah, I live in a building where smoking is allowed in one section, and it never bothers me. I actually find it better, because in my previous apartment, people would smoke outside directly underneath the window because they weren’t allowed to smoke inside. If it’s not allowed, complain to your super (although I would suggest doing so politely)
Don’t like it, don’t breath :p
I think that would suck if my neighbour was able to infringe on such comfort in my own home. OP, roll up a towel and seal the bottom of your main access door. There’s fire-proofing and cinder block walls between you and your neighbours and the last time I tried to sneak a smoke in, for the life of me, I could not make the smoke go into a shared plumbing pipe, not that it could get out if I could get it in there (you twit). Finally, if you think asthma is contagious or you can “catch it” from cigarette smoke you’re out of your mind. Millions of smokers would have a hearty chuckle over that one. You thank your parents for a such a genome, not your neighbours… what a twit! Go buy a humidifier while you’re at it or *gasp* see a doctor and gain some semblance of a diagnosis before you fly off the handle making your health my responsibility or worse my fault. Twit.
I sympathize with the OP’s problem. Cigarette smoke gives me respiratory problems as well. The best solution might be to rent a flat, drastically reducing the amount of second-hand smoke to be exposed to and increasing the odds of having non-smoking or outdoor-ssmoking neighbours. Sometimes it is wiser and easier to change one’s own situation than to try to change other people’s.
People still live in apartments? I thought the new term was “condo.”
Condos you buy, apartments you rent.
Yes, OP, let’s change the whole fucking world for just you. If you have a problem with ‘smoke’, how do you manage to navigate the world of belching buses, cars and 18 wheelers that roar past – aside from all the other pollutants out there waiting to pounce on poor little ol’ you? You can either to continue your nasally whine or move to a non-smoking building.
I come from the generation where most everyone smoked–even the doctor who let his cigarette burn away in the ashtray beside you while he listened to your lungs. Yet, I have never heard of so many people with respiratory problems as I do now–when most everyone and everything is ‘smoke-free’.
I think, OP, your breathing difficulty may be due more to your psychosomatic hyperventilation problem than any actually damage done by smoke from a single cigarette on the other side of a wall.
Boo hoo. That is all.
bullshit! your not sick because your neighbour smokes like a chimney in their own apartment. your likely sick because of a whole bunch of other toxins and pollutants over the years, not because a few ppm of cigarette smoke passed around 2 closed doors and cross the hallway.
get over yourself and leave your neighbour alone.
Kay, I have to say I agree with your general point, but couldn’t you have taken the opportunity to share your vast wealth of knowledge rather than belittle someone? I thought you were one of those nice western Canadians your always talking about?
Just an honest question although I’m sure you’ll find something wrong with it…
sorry LOGiC, that trusty old “victim” stance strikes once again impressing me well enough to comment. Perhaps, it’s my use of the word ‘twit’ that gets your goose. Well, I’m mild today so you just say thank you and move on realizing I don’t choose your feelings, you do and so does the OP choose their own feelings.
Oh, and I’ve never been this kind of bitch before coming to NS. No need to ask how such a thing could happen here. Better to ask Fat but spare them the kay drivel and just get over it, okay?
HKM… Lovin’ it! Keep up the good bitchin’!
Bitch on, bitches.
HKM – I loves ya, buddy – you hit the nail right on the noggin. I second your psychosomatic hyperventilation theory. I swear to fuck some people think they’re the only person in the whole fucking world who suffers from asmtha and every goddamn smoker is to blame and should have their head mounted on a pike. If you were talking about a chain-smoking roommate, that’s one thing, but when you natter on about people smoking in their own residences, I think you’re a fucking crackpot hypochondriac.
I have to say, the random twit comment acctually made me laugh… It just boggels my mind that you ruin your valid points by always feeling the need to make to other seem like a tool (even if they are). Take the high road. Just a thought.
Sometimes I think we may be turning into a nation of hypochondriac pussies.
move to a non smoking complex whiner
As a non-smoker and Athsmatic I have to say that smoke does not cause athsma.
Athsma is a chronic non infectious condition. The only smoking that would cause it would be your mothers smoking while you were in the womb, and that is difficult to prove.
It sounds like you may be allergic to cigarette smoke. In which case you need to move to a non-smoking building big time ASAP.
I’m a big fan of freedom. I just hate the idea of residential landlords legally able to dictate lifestyle. I think a landlord is privileged to too much… credit checks, smoking, pets, kids… Name another “institution” that has such control and legal ability to discriminate over the average joe’s lifestyle within the home. It’s useless to bitch about such a thing but let’s just say… we love the way we bitch.
hahaha wow people are simply ignorant and uneducated:
People do get asthma from constant second hand smoke. Most of the buildings are old in halifax and probably not as insulated etc. as they use to/could be. Perhaps you live in a shitty apartment that does not keep up with maintenance? Perhaps pipes are not fitted properly/were not fitted properly when the building was built?
It sucks for whoever is having symptoms of respiratory illness, however people have the right to “smoke” if its in a smoking building. Since you apparently dislike smoking/smoke so much it is logical to assume you are not living in a smoking building. Likely people are smoking on their balconies “outdoors”. SO if it impacts you this much, go outside and get some fresh air yourself. At least you wont be smelling it as much! Oh and don’t let it get to ya-there are other new apartment complex’s to live!
To elaborate on HMK; people use to be able to smoke EVERYWHERE… Doctor’s office, mall, resturaunts, ect.
Now there are bans on all those places (which I understand) then some, and now in most outdoor places.
A person’s home is practically the only place a person can smoke
You smokers are a bunch of scumbag, douchbags of the worst kind. You are crackheads that can never quit, the only difference between you and a fucking crackhead is that a crackhead can quit smoking crack. You can’t quit smoking your shit. Then when some speaks up against your dirty ass habit, the dirty stink in your cars, houses, apartments your cry like a bunch of shit heads. Maybe if you could smell your own stink you would understand. Oh poor babies we have no where to smoke our “crack” because we are to pussy to quit. So you could smoke anywhere back in 1940, shut the fuck up, sorry the rest of us wised up to that shit morns.
i can smoke any where i want now, spanky, i bought the fucking smokes leagally, and i’ll fucking smoke them where i want. whether it’s 1940 or 2009. not too pussy to quit,just loooove hearing you non smokers moan. suck a dick
You had an underlying fucking problem if you’ve suddenly got asthma from dilute secondhand smoke. I lived with two chimneys for parents and I’ve got zip respiratory problems, so don’t pass it off on the buttsuckers. You’re living in a fucking human anthill, move or shut up, otherwise the cabbage cooking stink will probably put you into anaphylactic shock.
There are some shitty ass apartments out there, but I doubt the cracks in your door are large enough to produce enough second hand smoke to cause asthma.
Guy who used to live next door to me was a fucking chain smoker and while the hallway smelled like smokey ass I couldn’t smell anything in my apartment (unless I was close to the door)…
So like others have said: you likely had an underlying condition beforehand, OP.
I will agree though that smokey smells in the hallways of apartment buildings does suck. Now that I’ve moved to a three-bed in the other end of the building all I get is the smell of fish cause my neighbour (sweet older lady) eats a lot of fish…prefer that to the smoke, I will admit.
wow, spanky. Get some education before you spew out the SIDE of your HEAD! I have yet to see someone rob a bank or even be inclined to pull out a gun or spread their legs to get a nicotine fix. It’s not so common to see someone spend their entire rent on cigarettes in a day but if you’ve only got your rent to service crack addiction you’ll consider robbing somebody or doing something unethical to get more within a day or less. I have yet to see someone fall over and die because they smoked one too many cigarettes in an hour. I have yet to learn of anybody dying as a result of malnutrition attributed to tobacco use. I think you should hang in a crack house for a day, spanky, then revisit your definition of “the worst kind of… scumbag, douchbag” after discovering the crack heads will rob you. Grow up! The world isn’t black and white.
fuck you spanky you pussy.
I don’t like smoking either. I hate walking down the street behind a smoker and having to breath in their smoke. I also hate breathing in other pollutions, like car fumes. Reducing any of it would be brilliant.
Move to a different apartment complex with stricter smoking rules.
“the dirty stink in your cars, houses, apartments your cry like a bunch of shit heads. Maybe if you could smell your own stink you would understand.”
The smell of smoke, when coming from a fireplace, is thought to be comforting. The smell of smoke coming from a smokehouse can get a person salivating in anticipation of a tasty treat. A person smells a certain blend of pipe tobacco and they feel comforted because their much loved grandfather smoked that blend.
The smell of pepperoni makes my friend feel ill, because her abuser used to have that smell on his breathe. The smell of peppermint tea makes me feel yucky, because my mother serve it to us when we were sick. The smell of rose perfume agitates my sister, because a teacher who she hated wore that scent.
The government/anti-smoking groups paid out a lot money on propaganda to make smoking a thing of the past. It didn’t just say, smoking is bad for you. It used images to associate smoking with dirty, ignorant, pathetic type people in order to cast people who smoke (or who might start smoking) in an unsavory light. Obviously, it worked. But, I think that it went too far.
The anti-smoking propaganda actually caused people to treat other people very badly because they smoked (and have since before it was considered ‘wrong’). Smokers have been cast into the role of modern day lepers. They are considered unclean and undesirable, and they being forced into the role of outcast. People have been brainwashed to the point that the smell or sight of a cigarette makes them feel angry or ill. That these people have been brainwashed to such an extent is very disturbing.
I think the people who feel so strongly about smoking should really stop and think about how they came to feel the way that they do. They are in danger of something much more threatening than the sight or smell of a cigarette. They are in danger of being manipulated in some very scary ways. That they can be convinced to feel intense anger and physical sickness after a relatively short campaign run by people who wanted to convince others to think like they do should be a warning to these people. People need to stop being lazy thinkers and think things through for themselves. They need to use rational thinking (or at least commonsense) as a filter when taking in new information. They need to view the new information from a perspective that is not biased and narrow.
humans are the worst tho HKM
HKM – I think you make some really valid points.
However, I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anyone – smoker or non-smoker – talk about how much they like the smell of cigarettes.
i liked the smell when i was a kid
Jennie, I suspect you’re not old enough to understand how the smell of cigarette smoke can be pleasant – when ever I would smell a Cameo Methol, I’d think of my dad with his smoke clutched between his workworn hands, laughing at the funny pages back in the 60s. He’s been dead for 38 years but that one smell can just put me back there – by the way, he didn’t die of smoking related causes.
My dad smoked when I was a kid too, but I didn’t like the smell then, and I don’t care for it now.
Different smokes for different folks, I guess.
I actually like walking around/behind smokers… I liked to smoke but really dislike the aftertaste… so I suppose I’m a second-hand smoke junky. I guess that’s likely also why I don’t mind my belle having a smoke once in a while.
I dunno, I’m weird like that.
I stand corrected.
I don’t think that there are too many people under the age of 40 who associate the smell of burning tabacco with fond memories because the newer generations have been TAUGHT to associate it with negative images. Before that time, it was promoted to be chic, relaxing, comforting and social–and so it was. It played a big rule in our culture. Native Americans actually use it in religious ceremonies (smudging), just as the smoke from other blends of plants are used for Catholic and Hindu religious ceremonies. Do you really think that it would have been used if people found it repulsive? The smell of tobacco (especially mixed with the smell of coffee or tea) was, not too long ago, a smell of welcome and comfort.
I am not promoting smoking. Nor am I saying that people should not encourage smokers to quit. I am saying that there is line that should not be crossed when it comes to the personal preferences of others. I am saying that propaganda can be a powerful weapon. And, those that choose to wield that weapon should use it responsibly–they should think carefully about the impact/repercussions of the message that they are sending. I am saying that when people feel strongly–to the point of anger, scorn and even hate–they should consider it a red flag to stop and analyze why exactly they feel the way they do (how did they come to think/feel this way?). I think that in most instances they will find that that such strong feeling is NOT warranted–that, when looked at from other perspectives, it is actually irrational.
And, I am saying, as an observer who watched the masses change from one way of thinking to the complete opposite after an intensive advertising campaign, I now know how people are swayed to do such things as condone the extermination of a race of people. I now know that we are NOT passed such things happening. If you can be taught to hate smokers and cigarettes so completely that you actually feel anger and illness at the thought of them, you can be taught to hate most anything.
Being around somone who is smoking makes my eyes water. No one has ever needed to “tell” me that it is unpleasant.
Good points HKM! *golf clap*
I can’t wait until a similar thing happens surrounding the stigma of pot… only in reverse. How many of us think pot is poison and why? How many of us know the declaration of independence was written on hemp and that hemp IS marijuana? How would Canadians feel if they knew we cut down our ancient forests to sell paper instead of harvesting paper from a toxin-free renewable resource that could save the planet? Do people realize we could be making plastic, the thing that’s choking the earth, out of biodegradable hemp oil? And WHY do we think or not think this way? Is it refer madness left over from the Vietnam War or is it that you’re told your brain looks like a frying egg when you sport a good pot buzz. It’s ALL CRAP PROPAGANDA yet pot is illegal. NOBODY can say for certain WHY. It’s just crazy to be herded like sheep, isn’t it?
My eyes water when I get smoke in them, as well–any kind of smoke. But, I don’t feel anger or illness when I think about a fire being built by girl guides who want to roast marshmallows. And, I don’t call them names.
I don’t feel angry either, nor do I call smokers names.
I just don’t like it.
There are lots of angry smokers out there name-calling too. Maybe they are the ones brainwashed by the tobacco companies campaigns?
Exactly, Miles = ).
(Although smokers were around long before the companies that capitalized on their habit were.)
Jennie: “I don’t feel angry either, nor do I call smokers names. I just don’t like it.”
Well, Jennie, there’s the difference: what you feel is personal preference. There is no strong emotion–just dislike. Whether or not you were taught to dislike it is not much of an issue if you are not waging a battle on those who feel differently than you do. You are not attacking. You are not accusing. You are not blaming.
This is the difference between a person who makes a personal choice and a person who is a hater/hypochondriac who affixiates on an idea to the extreme.
You’re right – however I do strongly support anti-smoking campaigns.
Perhaps “smoking cessation” campaigns is probably the better term.
So do I. Smoking is bad. TV said so.
My grandmother died at the young age of 89 (she was a heavy smoker), unlike her mother who died at 102 (she smoked only occasionally).
“I don’t think that there are too many people under the age of 40 who associate the smell of burning tabacco with fond memories because the newer generations have been TAUGHT to associate it with negative images.”
I’m not understanding how being taught to associatiate disgusting with smoking, which has been proven without a doubt to be very dangerous, is a bad thing.
Have to teach people something at some point after all. You can’t simply tell kids that they need to make their own decisions on every topic, hot-button or otherwise, based on objective evidence. It’s just not possible and it’s not very practical.
I won’t get into your statement about telling kids what to do rather than teaching kids how to think objectively for themselves. But, I will say that my point was that they should consider that obviously the person who is smoking does not feel the same way as them about tobacco (including the smell of the smoke), and that perhaps their associations differ from the other person’s. I am saying that a person must consider that others may actually like something that they find disgusting. I am also saying that they must tolerate differences to some degree. Either they remove themselves, they let the other person know that it bothers them (if they can’t remove themselves) or they tolerate it for a short time. They should not treat those people badly, call them names, and ostracize them.
I grew up in Toronto where Pakistanis were treated this way. The biggest complaint was their smell. As a child, I knew that the people from Pakistan smelled differently, but my mind was still open, so I didn’t think that different was bad. Although I found them strange at first, I came to like the exotic smells and tastes of their culture. Had I not had early exposure to many different cultures, I wonder if I would have been ‘taught’ to feel the same way as the many adults around me. I wonder if I would have called them disgusting and dirty and if I would have ostracized them. My mother did not like the exotic smells, but she did tolerate them. She never once, in my memory, condemned the people because they were different then us. Yet, I had an Indian friend who hated her culture, and she would generally refuse to eat the food her mother prepared because she did not want to ‘stink’. The Canadians around her ‘taught’ her self-loathing and they ‘taught’ her shame of her parents and their culture.
Smoking IS different, you will argue. But, I say, how we treat others when it comes to differences should always remain the same.
Put the death rate of tobacco use next to the death rate of Swine Flu. Interesting math, huh?
Yeah, we need a nicotine vaccine.
“”next time you consider lighting up in a large apartment complex, try and think of the lives you are shortening other than your own””
*Guffaw*
Seriously?
Start wearing a tinfoil helmet. You have more issues than your neighbour’s smoking.
That smell you’re smelling.. ain’t his smoking. Its your crazy.
When someone posts something with no back up on their claim , I just can’t let it go.
The original signed Declaration was lost.
On July19th 1776 ,Congress ordered a engrossed (officially inscribed) copy of the Declaration of Independence, which attending members of the Continental Congress began signing on Aug 2/1776
This signed copy of The Declaration of Independence of The United States of America is written on parchment made from SHEEP SKIN !
It was As per the link, the rough draft of the Declaration is on paper of Dutch origin, & is most likely made of flax or linen rags…which is what the Dutch most commonly used to make paper at that time.
http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index…
http://www.clandunlop.com/broadside.htm
On the evening of july 4th 1776 John Hancock gave Printer John Dunlop an order for 200 +/- broadsides copies of the agreed upon declaration which was signed by him as President.,which were possibly printed on Hemp paper.
History class is now over .
I feel for you OP! I, myself am allergic to cigarette smoke. It gives me migraines and makes me nauseous…yet I am FORCED to breathe it in every single day because there is always someone smoking somewhere, even though we have all these laws saying people can only smoke in certain places; they don’t really change anything. Each time I go to work in the morning, I am bombarded by smoke from people smoking a huge distance of 5 meters from the door. We also have signs posted everywhere around my work saying not to wear scents because some people have allergies to them…so why is cigarette smoke any different? The argument I hear most from smokers is that it’s a free country and they are allowed to do what they want. But, because you CHOOSE to smoke, I also have to smoke because of second-hand smoke. I don’t get a choice! But smoking is just that, a choice! You’re the ones that chose to smoke, you’re the one’s that should have to suffer. Why smoke at all? What benefit do you get from doing that to yourself? Some smokers say it’s relaxing and calms them down…there are many other things you can do than poison yourself and everyone around you. For whatever reason you can’t get through the day without sucking down some cigarettes, maybe you should get help! It’s an addiction like any other addiction for some people. It’s such a waste of money! I get a kick out of people who smoke and say they don’t have money for things. When I lived with my dad, he would smoke allll the time in the house. I asked him to smoke outside or to not smoke as much when I was home, and he told me “you can move out”. I was 16.
So, to all the angry smokers on here, shut up!!! You’re the ones the chose to smoke to begin with, you suffer! You cannot possibly think that the OP didn’t get asthma from you smoking. You can’t prove they did or did not. But you can’t deny that smoking/second-hand smoking COULD have and DOES cause asthma. I can’t wait for the day when they just ban smoking altogether…just wishful thinking :D!
Good day. Bring on the hate.
More, let me qualify that statement and you can pack yourself back into your skin: “several copies of the Declaration of Independence were written on hemp.” Since the details didn’t make one iota difference to the point I was making I’ll not thank you for trying to confuse the bitches, bitch.
melectric , WTF DOESN’T give you a “migraine”? You should live next to a pig farm for a while. Maybe it’ll help you come to terms with Darwinian Theory. Get a COPING SKILL! And just who do you think “THEY” are? Victims like you piss me off to no end. Stop making everybody else responsible for what you’ve become.
HKM, some interesting points…
I think what many forget, when they start in with this “what possible benefits can there ne” nonsense, is that tobacco has been used for thousands of years, hundreds in Europe…long before there were “advertising campaigns” etc etc.
And so I expect it is impossible to explain to a militant non-smoker what enjoyment there is from tobacco.
I may be one of the rarist breeds of smoker….I went my first 35 years without smoking, starting about 10 years ago on a drive across Canada…AND, I have no desire, at all, to quit.
I re-read your post.
The only point i can observe from that is probably on the top of your head.
Hemp paper is to marijuana, like sugar cane is to ethanol.
If you made a ‘point’… I for one ,sure as hell don’t see it.
That you made an error ,I definately see that & have an entire internet full of information to back my claim. That is the point, yours was simply misinformation, which when I went to school was called the WRONG ANSWER…& is probably why most persons who respond to you do so in a derogatory way.
The original (probably on linen or linen rag paper) is lost.
The signed one is of parchment aka sheep skin.
Perhaps the broadsides are on Hemp… I have no information backing or refuting that…except it was oneof the papers widely used for things like…broadsides.
Your mistaken & aren’t a big enough person to recognise &/or admit your mistake…surprise, surprise (not for anyone who regularly sees your posts here!)
You need to go to the video store and rent a new documentary called The Union. Do it. After that you track down a copy of the “Emperor Wears No Clothes” published by NORML. Take a step back and realize those history books are sanctioned by a government who can’t produce a single shred of quantitative evidence that pot does any harm at all yet this same gov’t deems the substance illegal and it’s uses amoral (which is why there are more bamboo farms in Canada than there are hemp farms). What exactly is different between hemp and marijuana? Breed. That’s all. And in my example, paper, hemp is the toughest plant fibre on the planet, it’s naturally mostly white not requiring bleaching in paper processing AND it produces about 4 times as much paper as the same made with forest. To think pot and hemp are not each marijuana you’d have to consider a red rose and a yellow rose two totally different plants and they’re just not. Get educated, More, then try again since you’re complaining of the same thing.
Frosty, yeah, I know, interesting indeed = ).
I do have the tendency to blow things up really big to make my point. I guess I figure that it can’t be missed if I do it that way = p
My mom didn’t start smoking until she was in her thirties, as well. But, she quit in her fifties when she developed a smokers’ cough.
I’m not a regular smoker, but I do enjoy a cigar every now and then. I get why it’s appealing. It also makes you look cool…just look at that pic of Frosty up there ^^^ 🙂
Every time I have a cigar, all I can think of is me being George Peppard in the A-Team…
In all seriousness, OP, you are a massive douche. You don’t suddenly get Asthma from being exposed to a minute amount of secondhand smoke. If you can smell it that badly, you’re either Wolverine (highly unlikely) or you’re imagining it (extremely likely) or your apartment building has a really bad air circulatory system (moderately likely). If it’s the issue that there is no air circulation in your apartment, there are remedies. Either call your landlord and complain, or buy a air circulation fan (expensive, but effective) that removes particulates from the air. Or, better yet, move out.