Why do we have controlled prices for milk?
Is it to keep the prices low and reasonable? HELL NO!
Is it to ensure that there is a MINIMUM retail price charged for milk? YEP!
Someone got it into their heads that NS dairy farmers can’t get a fair price for their milk unless we force all grocers to gouge NS consumers with prices 30%, 50% and higher than other provinces.
I am sick and tired of paying $8 for something a well paid Albertan can get for $4.50 —Screwed By Our Own Government
This article appears in Jan 31 – Feb 6, 2013.
An analysis by the Dairy Farmers of Ontario shows that New Zealand has the highest retail price, at $5.69, for a four-litre size package of milk. That was followed by Canada at $4.66, Britain at $3.57 and the U.S. at $3.38.
The farm price for dairy products is determined by a range of factors, including production costs and consumers’ ability to pay. Prices vary depending on the product and its composition, ie the amount of butterfat and protein it contains.
American milk just doesn’t taste right, maybe too much water mixed in? But its the cheapest…….
Nova Scotia has cheap pine board, Ontario doesn’t. That may be a poor example, but depending on where you live, some commodities are scarce while some are more plentiful.
SHOW US YER TITS!!!
Let us not forget that milk producers are regulated on how much milk they can sell !
That’s right boys & Girls, they will only buy so much “quota” from a milk producer (aka dairy farmer) the rest is either animal feed, used in some cheese production …OR DUMPED OUT !
So yeah , welcome to one fucked up system !
McGuinty=Troll
ok mcguinty, we give. here are our tits
http://www.favonius.com/furzefield/birds/t…
Good one, Molly!
More,
Did you know that the quota system is in Alberta as well?
Clearly your point on the quota system is worthless with respect to how NS compares to other provinces.
Screwed by our government you say? You’re preaching to the choir, OB. I get a painful reminder, bi-weekly, in the form of a paystub
Senseless babble Sonic Love.
N.S. Farmers get very little for their product.
The Dairy Board, and Processors make all the money, and the good people of Nova Scotia get screwed over just like they do on most things.
US milk has too much water mixed in? Laughable……but what a lot of it does have is rBGH, which is banned in most of the world because of health hazards. (Thank you Monsanto!)
I think perhaps you may have had a glass too many.
US milk buyers look for the stuff that’s labelled as being not from cows treated with rBGH, or growth hormone.
A year or two ago I spoke with a dairy farmer and he told me they received 71 cents per litre of what comes out of a cow’s udder. So a farmer gets $2.84 for four litres, while we pay $5.68 at Sobey’s and SS and apparently they sell at cost, ergo it appears the dairies are grossing $2.84. Out of that amount, I do not know what their costs are. Of course there is the plant, vehicles, salaries, etc.
We pay more for just about everything, product wise, in NS. What gave you the idea that milk would be different? Hey, the government regulates liquor, gas, electricity, milk, poultry, and just about anything else they can squeeze an extra couple of bucks out of us for. How do you think they pay for their bloated bureaucracy, patronage appointments, and pensions for all their families and friends. Yay Canada!!!! Home of the FREE RIDE!!!!
Great Value …. A quota system not Our quota system.
Fatbastard; Have you heard of milk permeate? Its not made up or senseless babble as you suggested. As Bro Tim pointed out, there are also many costs in the distribution, pay/salary of all the workers, cost of feed, etc. I think you’ve had too few glasses if you didn’t notice the taste and texture difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_permeate
who drinks milk anymore? gross
Well sonic, your googling skills are awesome, but your follow up sucks. Do a bit more reading on permeate and you’ll find out it’s a going concern in Australia, NZ, and in bargain brand milk in the US.
I buy most of my milk from the states, and it’s just fine.
The vast majority of Dairy Farmers grow a lot of their own feed. You’ll see a lot of corn fields in areas where dairy is produced. Thus they are not always affected by swings in the market price, and the cost of feed is lower in general.
As far as transport, salaries, etc. You can be damn sure that they aren’t as well paid in N.S. as they are in Alberta, and B.C. where you can buy milk anywhere for 4-5.50 / Gal.
And just so you know……pine boards aren”t cheap in N.S. either……matter of fact, the only cheap thing in N.S. that I found is lobster.
Fatbastard; Thanks for the response. I brought up milk permeate in relation to my opinion of American milk and your claim that it was a laughable assertion that it tastes watered down. Your response is laughable as it is watered down, see Milk Permeate. Do a bit more reading into what I actually posted and not what conveniently fits your side of the argument. And I do take pride in my cyber skills, they are not limited to Google though. And yes pine boards are cheap in Nova Scotia, you have to compare different markets and not just look at the price per foot at Piercy’s.
In closing, you are helping to erode the Canadian economy by being a “border shopper”. I can also be “damn sure” they are receiving fair compensation as this Bitch was from the buyer’s perspective, not the sellers.
4L of milk costs $4.19 @ Costco, and $3.99 for 2L in Tantallon. I hear it’s worst at North and Windsor.
Good point Fatbastard (not a bad wine by the way)
I won’t even put that stuff in a coffee or tea. I do enjoy it when its been made into cheese or as some butter & a big dollop of sour cream on my baked spuds !
Snubiz; Excellent point, but apparently you are mistaken as am I. Only in Alberta can you get milk that cheap. This is news to me, but Fatbastard has enlightened us.
I just bought 4L of Baxters Costco on Sunday. I am not mistaken. Nova Scotian milk. 4.19.
Victoria- 1.58 per liter
Calgary- 2.00
Edmonton 2.00
Fredericton- 2.62
Halifax- 2.00
Hamilton- 2.05
Labrador- 4.50
Kelowna- 1.49
Montreal 1.58
Vancouver 2.00
Fatbastard; I used my Google skills to check our Governments assessment on your opinion. The prices are per liter and we don’t seem to be getting ripped off compared to Alberta and BC.
Snubiz; I’m with you, just using Fasbastards misinformation in a sarcastic way.
Pricing on a single litre does not reflect the price of a gallon. I can buy a gallon anywhere in the Vancouver area for under $5.50.
And yes, you can buy cheaper milk at Costco in N.S., and anywhere else for that matter. Costco in Bellingham Wa is $2.50/Gal, but who the hell is going to drive all the way to Costco and stand in line to buy milk?
Fit it in with a big shopping trip, but do you have enough room in the fridge to store enough until the next big trip? Or do you have a second fridge sucking up the 2nd or 3rd highest priced electricity in the country? How much are you really saving on that Costco milk unless you live close by?
Overall the price of milk in N.S. averages over $7 per gallon.
I have lived in Halifax, Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto, so my knowledge is first hand, not Googled. That goes for fucking pine boards as well.
Fatbastard; You must shop around, if you don’t then I’m not surprised you overpay. Now that we’ve steered away from your original unfounded argument I should point something out. I have lived on both coasts as well, and as of last summer, currently reside in a province that starts and ends with O. The same province many people point out is so much cheaper than NS, not true. As I originally said “depending on where you live, some commodities are scarce while some are more plentiful.” Now that you mention the “2nd or 3rd highest priced electricity in the country”, do you want to talk about the 6 tier billing system I’m on for hydro? The grass is just another shade of green depending on where you go. I am also correct on the pine board as I just purchased $217 worth. The two sheets of 3/4 plywood were also six bucks more than in Halifax.
Because a traffic jam that could be 100m long is now 200m long and plugging up another intersection or two.
Also, OP makes a good point about an unused lane being a waste of pavement.
Talk about milking the system. Eh, ehhhh, get it? Milking? The system? Eh? Nothing?
Tough COWd
Mooohahahaha
I’m done.
Lol @ Madeinthe80’s…thanks for the chuckle 🙂
OK….let’s all shop around and spend $8.00 in gas to drive across town and back so we can save $6.00 on a pine board. Fucking brilliant.
I see people do this all the time….spend 5 to save 1.
My main original point was that farmers and consumers in N.S. are getting screwed worse than most other provinces.
Spewing stats quoting the average price country wide are meaningless to the individual consumer as they don’t reflect regional pricing.
The Secondary point: “American milk just doesn’t taste right” Really????? American milk……painted it all with the same brush. Try buying some from somewhere other than the dollar store. It’s just as good, but watch out for rBGH.
The Tertiary point: You can always find a deal somewhere, but factor in gas, time, etc before you call it a deal cause more often than not……it costs you more.
Do you get it now? Going forward I will post in a more remedial fashion for certain people.
I wonder what breast milk tastes like …
Shit is bomb, Donk. Cambodian is best.
Fatbastard; “OK….let’s all shop around and spend $8.00 in gas to drive across town and back so we can save $6.00 on a pine board. Fucking brilliant. I see people do this all the time….spend 5 to save 1.”
It is now well established that Costco has what your looking for, for only $4.19. I would also suggest looking at online flyers, you obviously have access to the internet and there is no gas money involved.
“My main original point was that farmers and consumers in N.S. are getting screwed worse than most other provinces.”
This would be true of all provinces, my point.
“Do a bit more reading on permeate and you’ll find out it’s a going concern in Australia, NZ, and in bargain brand milk in the US. I buy most of my milk from the states, and it’s just fine.” Then, “Try buying some from somewhere other than the dollar store.” Also, “US milk has too much water mixed in? Laughable”
Permeate would be the “watering down” of milk, as I originally said of American milk. I live in a border town and go to the states almost every weekend. I have tried many brands of milk and they just don’t taste right. None of which were from Dollar Store Supermarkets.
“I buy most of my milk from the states, and it’s just fine.”
After saying this, I must ask, where do you live? Then I must say, thats alot of fuel to save a buck on milk.
“Overall the price of milk in N.S. averages over $7 per gallon. I have lived in Halifax, Vancouver, Calgary, and Toronto, so my knowledge is first hand, not Googled. That goes for fucking pine boards as well.”
My knowledge is firsthand as well, Google can provide accurate statistics of examples from different markets that my brain cannot.
“The vast majority of Dairy Farmers grow a lot of their own feed. You’ll see a lot of corn fields in areas where dairy is produced. Thus they are not always affected by swings in the market price, and the cost of feed is lower in general.”
I would recommend a Google search to back up that statement, its a really silly exageration.
Do you get it know? Going forward you should keep in mind “Senseless Babble”.
Screaming Fields of Sonic Love
sonic, can you provide evidence of 4.19 for 4litres of milk?
That is in violation of the NS minimum pricing scheme as per this regulation:
http://gov.ns.ca/just/regulations/regs/dif…
here in ON..shoppers drug mart…4l $4.13 everyday
OK…..last post for me.
I can look at online flyers, but they don’t go well with cookies. You are totally missing the fucking point.
If you want to believe everything you see online, that’s your problem. Quote some stats, and I can find another report that says something else.
Your own research showed it. Canada – $4.66/Gal, then you priced out anywhere from 1.58 – 4.50/L.
Big difference.
Lastly…..my mistake….I should have said Nova Scotia dairy farmers. I lived in Shubenacadie, surrounded by dairy farms. ALL of which, grew corn for feed.
Do YOU get it “now”???
Great Value; Please direct your question from 02/05/2013 at 11:43 PM to Snubiz. The comments are in this thread regarding your inquiry. Interesting article though, please spend your time calling the cops on Costco instead of replying to this. Thats some serious shit you’ve uncovered.
Fatbastard; Just click “dislike”, it would have been easier.
Cookerguy; I love it!
Nice to know you’ve got everything under control sonic…..
I always find gas stations really try to steal the milk market from the big grocery chains.
A tank of gas lasts me a month or more though so I don’t get to take advantage all that often.
Time to give up on the 8-dollar cow snot and drink beer instead.
water is free
Ooops – it might have been $5.19 for 4L at Costco. Anyway, my point was milk sooo much more expensive in areas closer to lower income neighbourhoods. Shameful!