Pregnant lady gets on a bus and is forced to stand while priority seating is being taken up by able folk.
Really?
—ThePrick
This article appears in May 21-27, 2009.
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And you didn’t get up because…
Yes really.
Are you the pregnant lady, or one of the able folk?
I was once hood-winked by what I thought was a pregnant chick. Gallantly, I offered my seat to the lady and asked how far along she was.
The bitch turned to me and said: “Thanks for the seat. OH, I’m not pregnant. I just drink a lot of beer *burp*.”
Sounds like OP was an able person but didn’t have a seat to give at the time. Otherwise this would be sooo hypocritical.
Speaking as a lady: Boys, if common courtesy doesn’t motivate you to give up your seat to a pregnant lady, an elderly person, someone with a cane, etc. Know that giving up your seat on the bus automatically makes you twice as attractive to certain female bystanders.
For the record I’m not assuming the offender was a boy. I’ve seen more men give up their seats than women, and all of said men have mysteriously become more attractive after the incident. Kindness is fucking HOT.
What is wrong with a pregnant woman standing? Being pregnant doesnt make you disabled.
Good to know manners are still appreciated by the ladies Fizz.
Are you fucking kidding me Bon? Your part of what’s wrong with society these days…
It’s call decency…
There was nothing wrong with Bon’s comment!
I’m wondering if the bus had a few empty seats scattered throughout (like it does when it still packs up) and decided, “Oh I don’t want to sit next to that unattractive/fat old man – he’s creepy! I’ll just stand!”
Its a fact: pregnancy is not a disability. If anything, the knocked-up masses will say that their pregnancy (theirs alone) is a “miracle!”.
Think about it, the baby is squeezed through the hole in your pelvis, the hole in women is already pretty big, but the pelvic joints (yes your pelvis is not one bone) actually loosen in response to special pregnancy hormones to allow more room for the baby to come out. Many pregnant women experience pelvic pain because of this phenomenon. Loose joints in a place that: 1) is loaded with much of your body’s weight already, 2) is essential to walk (your hip joint is between pelvis and femur) and 3) is bearing all the extra weight of your unborn child, can make walking and standing VERY painful!
So?
Still not my or anybody else’s problem. We didn’t decide for some stranger to get knocked up or pregnant.
Being with child isn’t an isntant elevation in status or entitlement.
Again, I’m willing to bet that there were other open seats available and she decided not to sit. I don’t compromise just because some female decided to get pregnant or accidentally got knocked up.
I hate when I have to give up my seat for old people. I mean, they knew they were getting old, right? It’s not my fault they didn’t throw themselves off the bridge a decade ago.
Pregnancy is not a disability. But giving up your seat to someone who is obviously preggers is common courtesy. Be nice!
Ah, but LadyS, common courtesy, like common sense, ain’t quite so common these days….
Common courtesy is such bullshit. There is ‘consideration’, but “common courtesy” is a myth create by badly done PR.
I hate it when people use that as a ‘reason’ or “excuse” to compromise something others stand for. Its such a crock.
Like I said, there were probably numerous seats available and the knocked-up chick decided not to sit next to the “creepy/unattractive/fat” old person.
It’s a bus, not a supermarket parking lot.
LOL Mole Rat!
Pregnant women carry the fucking future around with them for nine months, if there’s only ten people left on earth with one pregnant woman, the other nine are going to be extremely protective of her. It’s the same reason we are protective of children. But with overpopulation our survival as a species is no longer determined by how well we take care of our pregnant women, and the inevitable result is self centered assholes.
Mole Rat,
I think NGF’s point is not just that we did not decide for the pregnant person to be pregnant, but that that person DID. …so the old person comment doesn’t hold any water.
If you want to give up your seat for someone else, great. It’s a nice thing to do. Trying to make other people give up their seats is not a nice thing to do.
By the way…similar bitch #1 most popular right now:
http://www.thecoast.ca/LovetheWayWeBitch/a…
One of my first times on the bus in Halifax, this obviously overweight 20-something girl (Baby bellies aren’t that flabby) and her 5 or 6 year old kid get on. She sees a dude she obviously knows and after they talk for a bit, he tells me to give up my seat for her.
I was like WTF? She’s not pregnant and her kid already has a seat. I didn’t want an argument so I just got up and gave the guy a dirty look. I would give up my seat for a knocked up chick or someone elderly but a girl that’s just fat? Really? She was standing right in front of her kid, it’s not like she couldn’t see her.
Ever since then when I get on the bus, I ALWAYS go as close to the back as possible. I haven’t sat between the doors in months.
I’m with fizz on this one, kindness is one of the sexiest thing’s out there. Perhaps it has something to do with it’s rarity? I don’t know, but it’s hot.
Pregnant lady was probably fully capable of asking to please sit down if she was in discomfort, unless being knocked up rendered her mute. She’s not disabled or elderly, FFS.
pregnancy is not a disability but its common courtesy to do so.
and Kindness is RARE these days i hold doors open for men, women, childrem etc all i get is doors slammed in my face
I’m with you there, Jane D’oh.
I will not open a door for someone just because of their sex, but I err on the side of opening them for everyone instead of no-one.
I honestly don’t care if she chose to be pregnant. Refusing to give up your seat to someone who is in discomfort, for no other reason than that it wasn’t your fault, strikes me as immature and petulant. If it doesn’t bother me to get up, I will. It’s not really a big deal, worthy of making huffy, dramatic statements about “compromising [things] others stand for.”
A pregnant woman can stand and walk just fine. It is not painful to stand or walk. I was pregnant 17 years ago. I stood on buses sometimes for the entire trip. I also walked at least 2 hours everyday and it was great exercise. I also carried groceries. Today I have a healthy teenager. Being pregnant doesnt make you special. Your body has muscles that protect you when you are pregnant.
* should read “obviously or potentially in discomfort.”
Are all knocked up women in discomfort?
If they don’t want that, don’t get pregnant, bitches. There are abortion clinics in the city for accidents that do happen.
Man, NGF, I agree with some of the things you say, but your sexism really pisses me off sometimes.
Okay, I’ve not used MEtro Transit busses in years, but have, whilst pregnant used Toronto Transit ( TTc busses, trains, and streetcars). There have been times, when the bus has come to a stop rather abruptly. I would think, on reason to give a pregnant woman a seat is to prevent her, from potentially falling or being pushed.
Another note, is that all women handle pregnancies differently. While pregnant, I was also waiting for a hop replacement ( years of rugby, soccer and skiing took a toll, along with osteoarthritis). As a result, my already chronic pain was a bugger with pregnancy on top of it. I suppose the Devil’s Advocates who’ve responded to this thread would say that was my choice. In my case, if I wanted to havea child, I had to do so prior to the hip replacement. Alas, though by choice, much pain was endured. Anyone who so much as held a door open or gave up a seat on my behalf was appreciated, as were their kind gestures. Though unrelated, I was disappointed to note how few people were courteous when I was revovering, and went from wheelchair, to walker, to crutches. I’ve gone to public buildings where the wheelchair accessible button was broken and couldn’t get into the buidling for lack of a willing person to hold the door open for an extra few seconds. There are some kind people in this world, but complacency and common decency, are in shorter supply than many might think.
I’m not sexist; I love broads.
This isn’t the first time I’ve been told this. However, just because I disagree with women and their (most of the time) ridiculous logic – it doesn’t make me sexist ffs.
That’s like being asked what I “honestly” thought of something where I offer my discontent or displeasure and then get told, “Yeah, we don’t need that negativity here.”
Please don’t pick on me for my typos. I just noticed a pile of them.
Forgive me, that was my fault I wasn’t quite clear on that one. I wasn’t referring to a difference in opinion. I was referring to your constant references to females as bitches or whores. or “Broads”
It implies that you hold yourself above females which is sexist.
As well your degrading questions that I have seen in the past asking things such as breast size further implicates the above. I don’t know which is worse, you asking those question’s or the girls that actually take the time to answer them:(
Semantics don’t make me sexist.
“Kindness is fucking HOT.” I totally agree! Let’s legislate kindness and see what happens to apathetic outcasts like Fat here. I’d much rather live in a society of friendly Nova Scotians.
Kay, you wouldn’t be welcome with your cunt-lick attitude. If anything, you’d be exiled to the NGF-lands!
Plus, if we “legislate” kindness, that will put panhandlers out of “work” because its just rude to ask strangers to fund your habits.
And – you’d cease to exist.
Nice try, Internet Superstar.
“Your body has muscles that protect you when you are pregnant.” False. I studied anatomy, a lot. But go ahead Bon, which muscles protect us when we are pregnant? What are their names? How exactly do they protect the pregnancy? Tell us, please.
Of all mammals humans are among the most vulnerable when pregnant. It’s a price we pay for being able to walk on two feet. We used to carry our young in a safer position, under us between four firmly planted legs. Now we walk upright and the child is carried in front on two less stable legs, a much more vulnerable position. But there’s a twist! Just as we evolved from tetrapod to bipedal, we went from non-social to social beings. So although our bodies are more vulnerable during pregnancy we now have the social capacity to protect our pregnant females. And that includes giving up your seat so the women can assume a safer position on a moving bus.
I don’t think pregnant women are “all” in discomfort. It’s just nice to ask. If they don’t feel the need to sit, hopefully they’ll politely decline your offer.
Well put Mole Rat.
Not all women are as lucky as Bon. Some have other things that coupled with the pregnancy make it difficult like BlueBelle and some people just have bad pregnancies. Bon had a comfortable pregnancy which is great, that means natural selection is working. But variation, the very thing that makes natural selection possible means that some women are better equipped for pregnancy than others. Before medical advances these were the momen that would die during the birth.
I think a lot of people are missing the point here — when I stand on the bus I often have a hard time keeping my balance, especially when the bus comes to a quick stop or a sharp turn….I’m not pregnant, so if I fall it’s just ME who’s injured (and I DID fall, and trust me, a little tumble on a bus can do A LOT of damage), but if I was pregnant and I fell, not only would I be at risk for injury, but so would the baby I was carrying. I think THAT’S what needs to be considered here — it’s bad news when a pregnant woman falls (pre term labour, miscarriage, etc…) and I don’t think giving up your fucking seat on the bus to avoid even the slightest possibility of this happening is going to ruin your life (or inconvenience you) THAT much.
fizz, did you study anthropology too?
Fizz you must be nuts. Go to a library and read the countless books on pregnancy and no way will I ever give up my seat on any bus bus for a pregnant woman. Bipedal and tetrapod are not even words. Neither one is in the dictionary. There are muscles in the uterus that expand as the fetus grows and these muscles as well as the sac of water protect the baby in case the pregnant woman falls like I did several times when I was pregnant. After the baby is born the muscles are like jelly and you are given exercises to make them taut again that is if you want your figure back again.
I had an easy pregnancy because I take care of myself. Why would anyone get pregnant if they have health issues is beyond me.
Bon – bi-pedal IS a word. Hate to break it to you, but its a word. Its more of a word than “Google” if you must know.
And Fizz – don’t you dare say that walking on two feet was a price that we as humans “paid”. Also, you’re describing our child-carrying methods in the same way penguins carry their young.
We weren’t “human” until we walked on these two legs, or ‘hominid’ for that matter.
Because unhealthy people are horny too. It’s really that simple.
Even the healthiest people can have problematic pregnancies, just like even the healthiest people can have problematic vision. Vari-fucking-ation. Should I repeat myself?
Oh go fuck yourself, Bon.
Not everyone is as wonderful and great as you are. There are lots of people who “take care of themselves” that end up having rough pregnancies. My aunt “took care of herself” her entire life, got pregnant and the pregnancy ended up fucking her liver up.
Get your head out of your arse!
While women choose to be pregnant or stay pregnant, it is not always easy. I had a very easy pregnancy. I was lucky. This does not mean that it wasn’t uncomfortable or caused discomfort by times. In nine months I added roughly 25% of my body weight to my frame. That changes how your body feels and acts – immensely. The other little catch is that going in you never know how it is going to turn out – every pregnancy is different; so comparing this woman to that woman is futile. Some feel like shit, some feel pretty good.
Re: the OP – Can a pregnant woman stand on a bus? Yes. Are people require to give up their seat because she is pregnant? No. Would it be polite to ask if she requires a seat (assuming there are none available)? Yes.
bipedal |bīˈpedl|
adjective Zoology
(of an animal) using only two legs for walking.
tetrapod |ˈtetrəˌpäd|
noun Zoology
a four-footed animal, esp. a member of a group that includes all vertebrates higher than fishes. • Superclass Tetrapoda: the amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals.
• an object or structure with four feet, legs, or supports.
As for the debate: If the opportunity arose to give up my seat on the bus for a pregnant woman, I’d do it. Not because they’re anatomically disadvantaged or not, although that may play a part, but mostly for safety reasons. Everyone knows how jerky a bus ride can be standing, it wouldn’t be exactly healthy for an unborn child if their mother happened to fall on the bus as a result of having to stand. Fortunately for me, I won’t ever have to go through pregnancy, so those who do can take my seat when they need it.
LOL the muscles of the uterus are for pushing out the baby not for protecting it. There are other structures designed for protecting the baby like the lining of the uterus and the amniotic sac (its not a sac of water by the way) neither of which are muscles. FAIL
Bon, the falling comment was ridiculous. Yes pregnant women fall, but it is generally considered something to be avoided for all the reasons Kitty noted. My girlfriend fell at 6.5 months, her waters ruptured and she went into labour immediately. Her son then spent 1.5 months in the IWK neo-natal unit with lamps and goggles and monitors and tubes, etc. It was very stressful for everyone. Falling is to be avoided. I’ve moved a little further into the “it would be polite to offer” camp.
Props Kitty for your articulation.
Thanks, Three. I really think people were missing the point here. Pregnancy is not a disability, but there *is* a certain amount of fragility when one is expecting.
Just because someone appears to be an able bodied person doesn’t mean they are. You have no idea if someone has recently had surgery & you can’t see it. You don’t know who is arthritic at a glance & what about all the people who have steel pins & plates in their ancles & knees like I do. You can’t tell unless I am tired & I limp. But i am always in some pain & uncomfortable standing 7 walking. Doesn’t stop me from working or walking. But when i can sit I do. You don’t like it.
Buy a car & then you’ll always have aseat .To the poster who was asked to give up their seat by a guy for his female friend…I would have told him “you want her to have a seat…get up & give her yours !”
I wonder if its going to be “common courtesy” to clear the sidewalk for a pregnant woman next.
NGF, I dare! It is a price we “paid”. Build yourself a little model, one with four supports and a mock baby between them and one teetering on just two supports with the mock baby completely exposed in the front. Which mock baby is at more risk of being damaged? It’s simple logic. And yes, we carry our young in the front of us and so do penguins, very good, A+. So?
And I’m not saying we are human because we are bipeds or that we are bipeds because we are human. I have no idea which came first. I’m saying that as evolution played out we began as non-social tetrapods and ended up as social bipeds and that those changes have interesting implications when it comes to modern pregnancy.
fizz, you’re not fleecing me with that example. humans are one of few mammal groups to produce an average of one offspring at a time. could you imagine if we were like canines or felines and popped out 2-9 at a time? try carrying more than one between your legs!
humans began to walk on two feet as it was convenient, more efficient, and allowed us to reach fruit/twigs/etc. on trees and other higher objects without having to climb on rocks or piggy backing. we’re not climbers or swingers or diggers, but instead relied on developing technology and our own ‘homo’ experiments in using hands as hands (instead of as two more feet) to do things.
Its not a price to pay at all. Its a choice to make that we “stand by” today.
Would you prefer to be crawling around on all fours still? You couldn’t pick up apples in grocery stores then without getting dirty looks from bi-pedal old ladies! Also, carrying a baby around while on all-fours would result in the baby hitting bumps/rocks/speed bumps and any other debris on the ground.
A-.
When the sidewalks start moving, speeding up and slowing down at unpredictable rates, making quick stops and sharp turns, then maybe we should consider it, NGF.
On the whole, most pregnant women are quite capable. That said, an offer to sit is appreciated when one of us is having a not-so-comfortable moment/day/pregnancy or when your at the very end and the baby is dropped and you’re as big as you’ve ever been in your life.
It is polite to offer, but you’re not obligated if you’re not so inclined.
The sidewalks do that already, Three!
Plus, a pregnant woman has the same vocal capacity as us; if she’d like a seat, she’s clearly capable of asking, “Excuse me, may I have that seat?”
I respect pregnancy, but my heart doesn’t bleed for every woman with a pudge in her tummy.
Now that you mention it, Fizz, people DO become more attractive when they offer their seat on the bus. Interesting.
And Mole Rat is so right. I rarely sit at the front of the bus, but when I do, I offer my seat to anyone who looks as if they’d have a harder time standing than I would. This includes the elderly, people with disabilities, small children and yes, pregnant women. It’s called being considerate of others.
Yeah we produce less offspring because we got so good at surviving that we didn’t need to produce more than would survive to ensure the survival of our species. However, it is anatomically possible to carry many children (octomom) but it is very rare and not natural.
If you think being bipedal was a choice on our part that we “stand by” today you are seriously deluded. More so than I thought. We did not choose to evolve. That comment alone has completely convinced me that you are truly ignorant about all of this, and that I’m wasting my time trying to explain this to you.
Thanks for the A- that’s a really good mark! You get an F.
Like I asked before, fizz, did you ever study any anthropology? You don’t have to really answer this question.
My apologies NGF, I missed that question. No I didn’t study anthropology, I studied sociology. Why? Trying to cast doubt over my credibility because you have had no valid arguments to counter my comments thus far? Or are you an anthropologist all of a sudden?
Fact checking FTW…
Amniotic fluid (http://www.marcelduchamp.net/wwwboardarchi…
Nature:
– It is a clear pale, slightly alkaline (pH 7.2) fluid.
– It is about 400 ml at mid pregnancy, reaches about 1000 ml at 36-38 weeks then decreases later on to be scanty in post-term pregnancy.
Composition:
– Water (98-99%),
– Carbohydrates ( glucose and fructose), proteins ( albumin and globulins), lipids, hormones (oestrogen and progesterone), enzymes ( alkaline phosphatase),
– Minerals (sodium, potassium and chloride),
– Suspended materials as vernix caseosa, lanugo hair, desquamated epithelial cells and meconium.
Circulation of amniotic fluid: The amniotic fluid is not in a static state but is in a continuous turn over, 500 ml of it are replaced each hour.
Origin:
(1) Foetal
a. Active secretion from the amniotic epithelium.
b. Transudation from the foetal circulation.
c. Foetal urine.
(2) Maternal
– Transudation from maternal circulation.
– The foetal origin contributes more in the production of the amniotic fluid.
– Uptake of amniotic fluid is by absorption through the amnion to the maternal circulation and by foetal swallowing.
To your point Fizz: I wouldn’t drink the stuff, water or not.
Three,
you make me wonder…
Do bus drivers drive busses more gently when there are pregnant women on board?
Actually… Could they not just accelerate and decelerate more smoothly all the time? …fewer premature babies, and easier on fuel to boot.
Thank you Three! “The foetal origin contributes more in the production of the amniotic fluid.” Or the baby starts pissing so that by the time your “water breaks” it doesn’t really live up to its name.
I stand by what I said originally. Being kind is fucking HOT! Apparently NGF and Bon are not hot lol.
Fizz, my points “don’t make sense” merely because they differ from yours and you don’t want to believe them.
And – I probably studied more sociology than you. Along with anthropology……..so what do I know?
My assumption is you’re one of those people who consider oral sex to even be a type of cannibalism.
NFG, I just snerted with the cannibalism comment.
Actually, NGF is quite the hottie, Fizz 😉
Three:
Is a ‘snert’ similar to a ‘shart’?
I know a ‘shart’ is when you shit while assuming its a fart. Is a snert a “snicker” which includes a fart also?
Its the first time I heard/read the term; its kind of amusing 😀
LOL! Your points don’t make sense because you think humans chose to evolve, that’s fucking leotarded and if you knew shit about anthropology you would know that.
Yay, I missed out on the funniest bitch ever because I was biking FIFTY FIVE MILES TODAY!!! I’m too fucking tired. BBL.
There’s a coupe meanings from the Interwebs, but the way I’m using it is a snorting laughter. The kind when you’re caught off guard. No farts involved, lol.
Little girl, your level of education sparkles to me.
Haha! I laughed at that too. Yes NGF, my husband is very afraid!
Fizz, you’re in over your head.
Go back to the champagne bar you’re named after that closed its doors last month already.
Pretty Kitty, are you calling me stupid?
I’m in over my head? I backed everything I said up and shot down your arguments until you resorted to making me look stupid and cast doubt over my credibility, not by coming through with solid arguments but by bleating “I probably know more anthropology than you” and “your level of education sparkles little girl”
NGF > fizz.
Hate to break it to you, but your points are moot. They’re just what you think; not what has happened or even theory as to why it happened.
Studying compared to majoring is minor.
If a woman can go to work during pregnancey, surely to god she can stand on a bus. Lucky you’re not in China and some other places where you pop the baby in the field.
Okay, put your money where your mouth is. Prove every single thing I’ve said is wrong. You can start off by disproving evolution, I’m sure the fundamentalist Christians will be thrilled to have you.
Alright, meet you tomorrow at Starbucks with a full, double-spaced manifesto proving how you’re wrong and foolish.
Name the time.
Why not just post your manifesto here? As a general rule I don’t meet people from message boards, particularly ones that are angry at me lol.
Oh fuck you, NGF, we have lunch plans tomorrow.
But I might make an exception for Pretty Kitty 😀
Aww!
Also: NGF is really a big fat pussy cat!
Holy shit I have tears in my eyes from reading fizz and NGF and a think I let out a few snerts of my own;) awesome. Bon, you become nasty, and then get offended at an implication of your intelligence? I’m with PK.
At least I have a brain. Yours is just a pile of shit. lol. My husband said your aunts breast milk is so old it turned to powder. My son said he would like to blow your head off.
1fa1: i really enjoy your posts also and tend to agree with you a good chunk of times. glad NGF could provide some chuckles tonight 😀
wanna eat food with PK and I? lol
Oh man, Bon has a husband? Reading your comments, Bon, I assumed you were a thirteen-year old boy. Seriously.
Thanks everyone for being so entertaining.
LOL wtf? Now I’m rooting for NGF.
What the hell happened?
The last time I checked this thread, I was halfway agreeing with Bon (“Why would anyone get pregnant if they have health issues is beyond me.”).
I see things went downhill mighty quickly, though.
How can you say someone’s brain is a pile of shit right after you say the person doesn’t have one?! MY HEAD HURTS!
…and “My son said he would like to blow your head off.”. W T F ? That some nice disturbedness you have going there. I’m going to walk away slowly now…
It’s okay No Dogma, everything is going to be alright. Breath. 🙂
No Dogma has been reading too much SK
Not going to delve into the physical hardships associated with pregnacies, but I think the following point should be made.
Transit signage will usually request that passengers who are able-bodied surrender their seats to riders who are disabled and elderly. While pregnancy certainly isn’t a disabilty, it certainly does seem to limit the mobilty of the future mother in later stages, so it may well fall within this category.
So, based upon that fact alone, chances are *someone* seated in that section should have given up their seat, and that not doing so would constitute a breach of etiqutte, at best.
While the original post didn’t provide any real insight into how many seats were available, priority seating is located closer to the front of the bus, so I don’t think the OP would have created this Bitch had “plenty of seats been available”.
So, the complaint seems legit, imvho.
congrats fizz, I think you’re officially the new kay. Stick by your guns, fellow bi-ped.
I can’t believe this “debate” is happening. Then again, I guess if the OP had to write this bitch, there are asshats (your favorite fizz 😉 ) out there who don’t have enough decency to offer their seat to a pregnant lady. Bon: you should probably take your kid to some serious counseling or it sounds like he’s going to turn into a fucking psycho. Let me guess, you guys live in Spryfield, or Highfield Park, or Uniacke, etc…
Nope, live downtown.
BRoc, why? I was just starting to like you. I lived in Spryfield for seven years and I’m thinking about moving back because it was such a great community. Please don’t judge it by what you hear on the news. They only report the bad shit, that shit happens everywhere. Come on, don’t be an asshat 😉
In my opinion, NGF has won the debate.
You had me at “cunt-lick attitude” and “internet superstar” NGF.
Over 80 comments on this bloody thing while I slept. Yeesh.
NGF, Kitty, I think you might be my new heroes. Carry on.
1. No seats on the bus
2. I was standing
The seats are called courtesy seats. You don’t HAVE to give them up. You don’t HAVE to do alot of things.
More and more people are only looking out for themselves nowadays which is why the world is in the mess that it is in now.
And I’m not the pregnant lady, just someone who thinks that it’s nice to be nice.
Wow, what a clusterfuck of comments on something so simple. I’m not getting into the science of pregnancy, theory of evolution, anatomy of the brain, or Pinky and the Brain. I’ll keep my response to what *I* know.
Not sure if any of you have noticed, but new signage has been appearing on the front windows about courtesy seating. There are 4 caricatures on them, including one of a lady who has no idea how to carry a baby (step 1: use arms) that I think is supposed to represent parents of small children. Anyhoo, bad artistry aside, it says the following on them,
“Please be courteous and yield the priority seating near the front of the bus to persons who have difficulty standing.”
There is an image to represent pregnant women on there too. If I have to make a sudden stop (it happened yesterday when I nearly got T-Boned by a lady in a van who was blinded by the sun), the standing passengers could go flying, and baby-to-be hasn’t the means to hold onto something metal like everyone else does. Besides, chivalry is sexy.
If all else fails, and you need a seat, don’t be afraid to ask, be it passenger or driver.
Wow. This is incredible. I can’t believe such callous and “me me me” attitudes really exist.
No, pregnancy is not a disability. But I’m guessing it can be really, really uncomfortable a lot of the time towards the end. Yes, you’ll here the odd story of some amazing woman who ran a marathon in her 8th month. But for the average “every-woman”, I’m guessing swollen feet and legs, a centre of gravity that’s completely out of whack, un believable fatigue, and painful kicks to the gut are pretty common. I’m also guessing they’re not fun.
Yes, it is a woman’s “choice” to get pregnant. But if all of our mothers hadn’t “chosen” to do that very same thing, none of us would be here.
No one is ever going to force you to offer your seat to a pregnant woman – or a disabled or elderly person either, for that matter. Bottom line – if you think it’s a huge inconvenience to give your seat to someone who’s been carrying an extra 40 pounds around all day, you’re an asshole.
Ok this is to funny, lots of debates some winners and some losers. The whole time I was reading this all I could think was “well at least she paid to get on unlike other preggos” LOL
I agree curtesy is sexy
I think giving up your seat (if you can) will make you a hero in someones eyes.
If you have to – ask (not demand), curtesy goes both ways
very entertaining guys thanks
Thanks for rooting for me, fizz. After our ‘debate’ we can now be buddies. *licks his wounds* lol
Hey Bon, whats up? Still think ‘bi-pedal’ is not a word?
very easy soul.ution to a simple problem, if the person looks like they need the seat on the bus more than you do, than give it up…. if you even think about it than you should do it… Karma is twice is good when it comes back to you…
When will it come back to you?
another kid using the word ‘karma’ like they know what it means. and what a dooooooo-zy.
all the karma means is that whomever gives up a seat has a good chance of not being reincarnated as a tape worm in the next life.
all right lets sub karma for the golden rule ,its all the same , when will it come back to you , when you least expect it and didnt know that you needed it…
P.s kid, i like that one., been a while since I was called that …
pps I will open the door for you next time….
LOL at *licks his wounds* awesome debate.
Bon: “My husband said your aunts breast milk is so old it turned to powder” ….your a better woman then me, I don’t think I would be exactly comfortable talking to my husband about his aged breast milk fetish..eek..and you kiss that! *gags*
O and by the way NGF..Love too:)
Well I have to say, after reading these comments, I now realize why I have such a bleak outlook on society…
NGF, even if your not sexist, you still a fucking plague on society, and an asshole. Just because you dont HAVE to do something, doesnt mean you shouldnt… I’m a guy, and I wouldnt be caught dead letting a pregnant woman stand if I’m able to give them a seat. not because it’s some kind of law, or because they are disabled or some dumb ass nonsense like that, just because it’s the right thing to do.
Stop making excuses for just being a dick…
I don’t make excuses for being a dick; I merely think of other viewpoints that deviates from the norm. Well good for you and your big heart, LOGiC, that’s swell of you.
Let me know if it attracts ladies to you like an Axe body spray.
There is nothing sexist about my opinion that a pregnant woman is capable of standing and doesn’t necessarily NEED a seat. You and I weren’t on the bus, so basically any point we make regarding this particular situation is moot – and merely opinion.
Opinion doesn’t make me a plague and you a knight, my friend.
Ok, so before, there were “probably” other seats available, but now, none of us were on the bus, so any points any of us make are moot. Gotcha.
PS You don’t get to refer to “women and their most of the time ridiculous logic” and then say “but I’m not sexist.” That’s like saying I’m not racist, but those black people sure are dangerous.
But aren’t they?
Although I don’t remember the quote that mole rat just referred, I tend to agree with what she is saying. IMO By segregating woman’s logic of that of a man’s, is sexist.
You tell me.
Frankly, I usually just ignore NGF’s comments because I’ve always taken him to be just a dude that likes an argument. He makes provocative comments to try and get under people’s skin, and then lies in wait for some unsuspecting feminist/pregnant woman/whoever to bite on it, so he can rile ’em up with further mock-callous commentary.
I wouldn’t take him too seriously if I were you. There’s plenty of dudes like him on the internets. Probably not an altogether bad guy (seeing as he’s managed female companionship, and PK seems alright) but just enjoys being a prick online. Flame away if you wish, just realize he’s probably gonna continue playing devil’s advocate.
NGF, do you think of other viewpoints that deviate from the norm to shock and get a reaction from us or do you do it to inspire EPIC debates? 🙂
Or are you just naturally devious?
I was going to say something like that too Fizz. Being contrary is not the same as being provocative or insightful.
But NGF is hilarious, so it doesn’t matter to me what other viewpoints he wants to bring up.
Bloody hell… I don’t even know where to start.
Bon sounds just like the Bacco Mom, you make a valid point, and then as soon as someone disagrees with you, you turn to distugsting language and insults. This kind of behaviour is what started Kay and Ginger on the road to being bitched out on every thread, no matter what they had to say.
This debate seems to come in all sorts of forms on here, but gets the most attention when it has to do with preggers. Personally I really don’t see why it’s such an unbelievable suggestion that people do something nice for someone else. I’m completely able bodied, and I’ve had guys offer their seat to me, just to be nice. Stop thinking about why, and start thinking why not.
“Bon doesn’t seem like the brightest crayon in the box, Fizz.
Pretty Kitty, are you calling me stupid?
No, she actually thinks that you are a crayon.”
This is the best thing I’ve read in a long time.
I concur, guys are hotter when they’re nice to people.
So if chicks are turned on by polite guys, then how come all my asshole friends are getting laid all the time? Does buying a chick a roofie-colada count as being nice or something?
That’s true Meow. It’s just a shame there are so many of them.
PAS – If we could just get a bitch about pregnant prostitutes, we’d probably crash the site.
A) I didn’t say you were sexist
B) I didn’t refer to myself as a Knight…
And while I dont dispute that there can be different viewpoints, and would be willing to change my own, yet this “opinion” is merely to be argumentative. (or the legitimate opinion of a selfish asshole)
And I wouldn’t give my seat to “attract the ladies”, I would do it to maintain a level of self respect…
And to clarify,
Your “opinion” is a plague on societies values, which are already on the decline (just review this thread) not you yourself…
Me0w,
I’ve come to that realization… I’m just going to stop wasting my breath…or typing… or whatever…
Ah, that was long. So what if you offer someone you think is preggo and is just fat? There would be a bitch about that. If she felt she needed or just wanted a seat she could ask, and will most likely get a positive response by more then one person.
“Being contrary is not the same as being provocative or insightful.
But NGF is hilarious, so it doesn’t matter to me what other viewpoints he wants to bring up.”
I tend to agree with that slightly.
Assholes get girls, but those assholes from my experience, usually have to put up with and equal amount of shit from the girl. They just tend to find each other easier then the nice peeps because they are more willing to approach each other with equally horrid pick up lines or some shit like that.
1. Hey, bon. I hope you get pregnant with sextuplets, scratch that, octuplets, and then go bus surfing. I’ll be there, and I’m not moving.
2. NGF and Pretty Kitty, I love you guys.
3. I’m a WOMAN, and I’d give up my seat not only for a pregnant woman, but a MIDGET if I had the chance. Honestly, is standing really that bad?!
4. Use common sense and common courtesy, even if it seems like a lost cause.
5. Naptime.
fizz, I was poking fun at people who stereotype neighborhoods. I live in Dartmouth, and we get the media shit end of the stick constantly. Come on girl, let’s stand hand and hand and sing “why can’t we be friends, why can’t we be friends…” I’ll try not to be an asshat anymore…:)
This must be the longest LTWWB comment thread evers.
If you won’t be an asshat I won’t be a tithead 🙂
Someone said tithead on another bitch, that’s another one to remember! It was probably NGF.
*applauds*
Congratulations on your impending arrival. I think you’re spot on with your comments. I believe Angel and I are the most recent moms, hence we’ve had a lot to say.
There was another bus/preggers bitch about two weeks ago that covered a lot of similar territory.
Wasn’t me who coined “tit-head”, fizz! I may have used nipple-nose or nipple-lips though. About your question – a little bit of both actually. 🙂 The definition of ‘deviance’ is non-conforming – so ….yeah, I can be like Mr. Fuji at times (very good!)
I do enjoy a good debate/argument and I can honestly see both sides to every story. Personally, I enjoy presenting a different POV – whether its rational or irrational (I’ll admit, sometimes I can throw it out to be a cunt – ask PK!)
Just all in a day’s play. Nothing to take seriously.
Also, I do respect and adore pregnant women honestly. One of my favourite things in the world is the natural glow an expecting woman gets. It’s a beautiful sight.
Dino – always a pleasure. You should get donairs with PK and I. Even 1fa1 is going to join us and treat everyone (hehe, jk).
I also love kittens.
I’d just like to point out, that NGF is actually the first one to hold doors for people and would likely be the first one to give up his seat to someone who needs it more.
NGF isn’t an asshole, he just plays one on the internet. 😉
NFG: You have the same MO as my SO. Good thing Kitty has sharp claws. 😀
She gets them from the Lee Press-On wholesale club.
Oh fuck you, NGF.
Let the bitches think for themselves and leave me out of it PAS… Ginger, pffft… that little tart is no match for me and my intact ovaries. (God I hope “she” dares to comment)
In tact ovaries?
I sincerely hope you do not have any more children. We don’t need any more little bastards who will just attempt to rob me while leaving a bank, scratch my car while biking around a parking lot like an idiot or demand a tip for their lousy service at KOD.
Come on guys! lets all get along!!!
Everybody dance!
NGF, If you were a pill you’d be birth control.
Bon, you are a fucking idiot. You say that pregant women are NOT more succeptable to muscular issues while pregnant? What a complete farce. When I was around 7 months pregnant, I developed searing pelvic joint pain (look it up- it’s called symphus pubis disfunction)- muscle spasms at the top of both my legs; I could be standing perfectly still and suddenly this ripping, shredding pain would come- like someone with long fingernnails grabbing a tendon and snapping it in two. It was the most excrutiating, intense pain that wold come on out of nowhere- and it doubled me over!
And NGF, I liked alot of your posts, but now I realize you are just a pea-brained skid. Go find Luggger and meet up for a beer- you have alot in common.
Something I’ve noticed in this thread and elsewhere is people telling an anecdote about themselves or, at the most, 1-2 other people, and then holding it up as proof of something about an entire group….the logic seems to be “me=this, and me=everyone, therefore everyone=this.”
What happened to you Scoob? You used to be cool.
So did you, so I’m wondering what’s with all the shit about women. I figured you were too smart for that crap
oh look, my post got deleted wtf??????
Scooby’s been lurkin’.
I hear that a lot treason…what is the criteria for deleted post’s anyway?
NGF…AWW how sweet after those hot comment’s I have no worries treating you, PK and DINO. You guy’s rock my boat!
Awww FA, you rock my TUGBOAT. My big, ass-hauling, Norwegian tugboat.
Theodore is so badass.
Hey Fat… go fuck yourself… again.
Such eloquent wordsmithing.
You gotta hardon for Fat, do ya Bro?
i dunno lets ask tim….why do some posts get deleted and not others?
Hey kay, I’d rather fuck you instead.
That way I can then go home, have something to really look forward to and then fuck myself.
It really saddens me that some of the comments here are disrespectful of women and pregnancy. I’ve been pregnant and it was one of the hardest experiences of my life physically. There were times when I thought I was going to pass out just standing in line to buy groceries. It was hard to even walk home with two bags of groceries. I really appreciated it when people went out of their way to be kind to me. A pregnant woman is the creator of life, a sacred and special time. Show some respect for humanity and share your seat.
I think the main issue here for those against the requirement of giving up a seat for someone who’s preggo is that it’s your choice to stay pregnant, and others shouldn’t be responsible for your life choices. I think the main theme here is personal responsibility.
That being said, it is REALLY that fucking hard to give up your seat for someone who might be having a harder time than you? Pregnancy can severely suck for some women, and it’s just SAFER for preggos to sit down on a moving vehicle. Jesus christ people.
Also, FA, I’d like to take you up on your offer. I can guarantee NGF’ll take you up on that too — he’ll take anyone up on any offer as long as it involves FOOD. Frig, he’d even let KAY buy him food.
NGF likes food. A lot. 😛
PK, did you and NGF get together or something?
In your dreams, FAT. In your dreams. Kitty can help you out. She’s really needs to get some… and soon.
anytime:)
Wow, welcome to Halifax.
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Kay, you wouldn’t be welcome with your cunt-lick attitude. If anything, you’d be exiled to the NGF-lands!
Plus, if we “legislate” kindness, that will put panhandlers out of “work” because its just rude to ask strangers to fund your habits.
And – you’d cease to exist.
Nice try, Internet Superstar.
Posted by Nice Goin’ Fat on May 25, 2009 at 8:06 PM
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Personal Atack #8 (STILL Kay… this is getting boring…)
Coast staff: Have I made my point yet? This user stands out like a sore thumb.
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Little girl, your level of education sparkles to me.
Posted by Nice Goin’ Fat on May 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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Veeerrrryyyyy creepy coming from this user.