When a girl knows her boyfriend is constantly cheating on her and basically has another relationship with someone else, it really irritates me when she gets mad at the girl and not the guy. She stays with the guy. Then she has the nerve to expect the girl to feel bad. If the girlfriend lets it keep going when she knows that it still is, then the other woman does not feel bad! She just thinks you’re stupid! —Grrrrrrr
This article appears in Mar 31 – Apr 6, 2011.
OP, I completel agree!!
Even if I was madly in love with someone, personally, I won’t go near them if they are in a relationship, it goes against my morals.
At the same time, if a guy is going out and and cheating on you, it is his fault, not the girls.
YESSSSS!!! this has infuriated me since the beginning of my understanding of BF and GF. I am not shy to point out to the idiot girl that she is angry at the wrong person either, but in generally they are so dense/desperate that they do not get it… Friend Divorce
Drama is stupid. Pity party is over girls, this is the real world. Get a life.
If my BF cheated then she can have him…and I blame him and him alone unless the girl is my close friend.
This is so high school ladies!!!
OP brings up a valid point: it’s always a situation of “that ho stole my man!” When I’m sure she didn’t tie him down and force her to have sex with her.
I wouldn’t touch a guy in a relationship with a ten foot pole. I have more dignity and self respect than that. If a guy wanted to be with you, instead of just fucking you on the side, he wouldn’t be in a relationship with someone else. You can’t FORCE someone to be with you, and even if you could, why would you want to? I certainly don’t want to be with someone who isn’t totally, completely, wonderfully as mad about me as I am about them. Call me a romantic, but it’s better than the alternative.
Also: right on sista (angels) — you don’t fuck with other people’s relationships. It’s just cruel.
im with all of you on this one. and PK i feel the same way and i will be the first to admit i am a total *hopeless romantic* …actually more hopeless these days… but y’know. and i definitly agree; i would want the person im with to adore me just as much, if not more, as i adore them!
im reading a great book right now called ‘Pillars of the Earth’. great love story in it! *sigh*
well i would think you’re allowed to be angry at both….
assuming you know the other crazy lady or if she knows about you.
Definitely at the cheater though…. definitely.
I mean, do you blame the family on their way home from a lovely day in the park when a drunked up moron crosses the median and crashes into them?
well to the girls that “steal” guys from other girls..(as if it really happens like that) just keep in mind, you may have “won” him this time… but remember how you “got” him as this will also be how his next slut bag gets him muahahaha
Total douchbaggery on the part of the cheating guy.
I’ve been witness to it (former employee), and brag about how he’s gettin’ away with it.
He played the girl for a fool, you know the old “I’m leaving my wife” story. He didn’t like me pointing out the obvious lack of virtue on both of the offending parties’ sides. Told him that if the “mistress” had any sense of self worth, she should inform him of any mutual attraction, then follow it with, “When you Do leave her and move out, we can start seeing each other”
Meh, some guys are pigs
I DO think the gf/wife has every right to be mad at the woman who cheated with her husband, I just think it’s not solely her fault — the guy’s the one who decided to insert his penis into her various orifices. And willingly causing that kind of pain (as to enable the husband/bf) on another human being is just plain mean. Willingly making someone unpleasant and causing painful feelings (saddness, anger, etc…) is shameful. And THAT’S what both the cheater and the other person (works both ways).
*does.
(haha clicked submit before I was done :P)
People who ‘date’, knowing there’s a spouse or s/o are the lowest of the low, be they cheater or accomplice. Infidelity has long been considered a sin for a reason, the pain it causes is devastating to the cheated, and causes irreparable damage to the development of children they may have. Cheating on your child is so irresponsible. It is totally appropriate to get angry at both parties, the spouse or bf-gf, and the accomplice. Infidelity is disrespect. Disrespect has no place in a happy, healthy relationship. If it’s not happy and healthy, then fix it or leave. There is no in between.
It takes two to tango.
Ah…kid’s .
OH WAIT…is that the recess bell ?
Who are you guys to say it’s an unhealthy relationship if the man isn’t solely sleeping with his girlfriend/wife? I don’t see how the person your man is cheating on you with is at fault at all. That person isn’t in a relationship with anyone, therefore is not expected to be monogamous. It isn’t like the man wouldn’t find someone else to sleep with if they weren’t willing. Bottom line is, if a girl knows her significant other is cheating on her, and she is not ok with it (which most aren’t), then the only person she should be mad at, is her partner who is doing the cheating. If she is mad, then she needs to man up, like the OP says and dump the guy because it isn’t going to change.
In my opinion, although I know it won’t be a popular one, most men aren’t designed to sleep solely with one person. To most men, sex is sex and doesn’t necessarily have love and other emotions attached to it. So, he can still be completely in love with his partner, but to keep life interesting and his hormones satisfied, why not sleep with other women on occasion? As long as he’s being safe, and discreet so the world doesn’t know, that would be fine by me.
Regardless, the woman being cheated on has NO right whatsoever to be mad at the other woman, unless they were friends/family.
moralistically reprehensible… ok.
sin? oooooo… it’s a sin….
cower in fear… knock those knees… hovering, glutinous strands of omnipotence don’t like it…. ooooooooo
purple fire^^ i was becoming apprehensive due to your absence…and we all know it’s ovary up
Blame the chick. She has two legs (I assume) and can just dump him and walk away. Instead, she insists on staying with him. Wait until she gets knocked up and starts pumping out babies……the guy will continue looking for a tighter cunt to fuck (like he does now).
:O A rare visit from the lovely Miss PF.
Sorry PG… I’ve been insanely busy at work and haven’t had the chance to comment.
Ovary up?
PF I’ve often thought about that. What would I do if sometime down the line my husband wanted to “feel young again” etc etc. What would I do? I would probably let him sleep with someone else. That being said I would expect the same for me, that I could go and sleep with someone else. Would I though? Probably not, no.
What I do not understand are the men who have these relationships with other women, or do not express their dissatisfaction with their wives before going and having sexual relations with another woman. Especially if you have children and a home etc etc. Do you not think of that? Does that just go away? I don’t understand it, and never will. Instant gratification … I guess.
I think it would only be fair for it to be discussed openly in the relationship Donk. That being said, I’d rather not know when my significant other was sleeping with someone else. I just think it would keep the relationship happy and not let him get bored. But, yes, the woman does have the right to know before it happens.
no apologies necessary, it’s nice to see the feu…*ovary up* would apply to a women, instead of using man up or balls up. i think ttfn came up with that bit…it had nothing to do with anything i was just squacking
While I totally believe it’s true that men and women look at sex differently and that men can, essentially depersonalize themselves when they’re fucking someone (i.e.: for physical pleasure versus emotional pleasure), imaging the person I love fucking someone else would just be too much for me, considering how *I* view sex (which may be the norm, for various reasons). I remember this one guy I dated — we remained friends and I was over at his place watering plants while he was away. This was a while after we had broken up. I went into his room and saw an empty condom wrapper and ended up having to vomit. Just the THOUGHT of him sleeping with someone else was enough to make me physically ill. For me, that’s the worst kind of hurt — knowing someone I have feelings for has feelings for someone else. It’s a disgusting feeling.
*may NOT be the norm
I definetly agree that the man should recieve the primary blame, but women who go for a guy knowing they are in a relationship are pathetic; and no less so than the girl who’s been cheated on that decides to stay. Both of them have serious issues with self esteem; but probably more so the girl who willingly goes for someone else’s leftovers! Even in my driest spells, I have never, ever- to my knowledge- touched a guy who was already taken; my back has enough problems as is without stooping so low. You don’t have to have respect for your fellow female to feel this way (I happen to have it, though); respect for yourself is enough!!!
I agree, Z. Why WOULD anyone want to get involved with someone who obviously isn’t into you enough to be in a relationship with you but in a relationship with someone else? Do women who do this really feel that badly about themselves that they’d lower themselves to taking second place? I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t want to be with me and only me. No matter how in love I was with them, if they had feelings or fucked or whatever someone else, than obviously they don’t want to be with me and only me and they can hit the road. I’m not about to lower myself to a point where I’m OK not being number one in my SO’s life (barring children if we had them).
Ah, there you go again, Sebastian!! I have a powerful hunch that you wish you had one between YOUR legs! Maybe we can start up a fund for you here at LTWWB so you can finally turn that chihuahua-sized penis of yours inside out; I’m sure it wouldn’t be much work in your case.
And FYI, you fucking retard, a woman’s “cunt”, as you so grossly put it, does not become lose after giving birth; it’s like a muscle and easily springs back into shape with the right excersize.
Sebastian drives an suv to hide the fact that each night before bed, he stands in front of his mirror naked, with his shrivelled penis tucked in behind his legs…and fantasizes about what it would be like to have a vagina.
I read somewhere that 6 months (or 18 months, i can’t remember) after their SO has given birth most men don’t notice any difference in feeling while engaging in intercourse in comparision to pre-birth.
And I think you’re onto something, Z. I think Sebastard has vagina envy.
I have friends currently in this situation. Guy cheated on wife with a mutual “acquaintance”. Wife chose to forgive to keep family together (2 young kids), only if hubby stopped playing around with “acquaintance”. Hubby did, but wife wants “acquaintance” to suffer horrible consequences, and has essentially forgiven hubby.
Yes, “acquaintance” knew guy was married, so she should have backed off and left him the hell alone, and wife has a right to be angry at *her*. But why is it OK for wife to stop blaiming hubby and pretend everything in their relationship is fine, when it clearly is not?
IMO, they’re both at fault, unless the girl was lead on by the cheating bastard and had ZERO idea he was in a relationship. That should be the *only* time the “other woman” gets a free pass. (This goes for men too, BTW.)
Also once knew a married gal who told a guy “the dude in the picture on the mantle is my brother”. The poor bastard didn’t find out she had a travelling husband until said hubby came home early and found them in bed. Clearly the blame here rests solely on the cheating spouse, and not the innocent person who was lied to, or the poor guy who got cuckolded.
I’m of the opinion that they’re both at fault. But you have to understand, Gidget that if the wife is going to make peace and move on with her relationship with the hubby, she does have to forgive him. She does NOT have to forgive the other woman, so it’s waaaay easier to redirect your anger to that person, you don’t love them, your life isn’t tied to them, you don’t share offspring. So ya, the woman gets the brunt. It’s a small price to pay for some semblance of marital happiness.
I would like to nominate Z for best sebastard retorts at the award ceremony at the next bitchers summit. Thank you.
HAY. My pepsi bottle butt plug quip was pretty awesome!
some, but not all females are idiots and suckers for a sob story. and shit, it don’t even have to be a good one. i know tons of females that fit that group, and try to help them see the light, nope, won’t ever happen.
then there are the whipped dog ones, that believe it’s better to just go with the flow. because they have never had to manage on their own. these are the ones i have pity for. stuck in a dead end thing, and scared to try and get away.
Oh, I understand that she has to make peace with it in order to make the relationship work with the hubby, but in this particular case it’s overkill – all of a sudden, 3 days after he’s caught boinking someone else, he’s “the best husband in the world, he’s so great, blah blah blah” when everyone KNOWS what he did, and that he really has no remorse AT ALL.
He’s talking about how hot the other woman was, and if it weren’t for having to pay child support, he’d probably keep doing it – all this kind of stuff within earshot of his wife. She just laughs and says “he’s so funny”. It’s disgusting.
And I should probably say they’re no longer friends, because it’s so pathetic I had to walk away.
PK, just because a woman is sleeping with someone who has a SO, does not mean they have low self esteem. They’re getting sex, and maybe that’s all they want. I think it’s extremely judgemental of you guys to assume that people involved in these kinds of situations have low self-esteem. What works for some people in relationships may not work for others, but it doesn’t make it wrong. Take that show “Sister Wives” for example… I think it’s insane that it’s illegal. Who has the right to say how many women a man can marry if everyone involved is a consenting adult?
The way people chose to have a relationship is their business, and no one else has the right to judge them. If you don’t agree with that way, don’t do it.
I’m done… estrogen overload ragging on dudes again.
Yikes, that’s horrendous, G – I would have trouble being friends in that situation too, I think. Unfortunate. But sometimes wishing them the best and walking away is what’s best for your brain.
BUT, often times, the wife of the cheating asshole doesn’t CHOOSE to share her husband with someone else. And sleeping with someone who has a SO that you know would be destroyed if or WHEN they find out is just a crappy fucking thing to do to another human being. Finding out your SO has or is cheating on you brings out some pretty shitty emotions — stupidity (you feel like a fucking tool for trusting them), guilt (is it my fault? did I deserve to be cheated on?), saddness (hurt feelings, obviously), anger (rightfully so). For some people this can absolutely destroy them and their self esteem and shatter their trust in the opposite sex. Sometimes for a lifetime.
So someone who would KNOWINGLY put another human being through that (both the cheater and the person they cheat with) is shit on a shoe in my books.
Maybe it *is* just for sex — esp if BOTH parties have SOs, but I dunno, I’d like to think of myself as more than sexual plumbing. And I tend not to think of men as a means to get off. I have more self respect and respect for men than that. But that’s just my opinion. 🙂
Hay, I’m not saying this is exclusive to men, zed. Women cheat too. This can go for either gender. Cheating is just fucking lame.
Is it cold up there on your high horse PK? Just because a woman wants to have sex with a man with no strings attached, DOES NOT mean they have no self respect. Like I said in my earlier posts, I think the woman in the relationship has a right to know if that’s the kind of thing a man wants in a relationship. Personally, I’d be ok with my SO having sex with other people as long as he was safe and discreet so the whole world wouldn’t judge. BUT, wanting to just have sex with someone, or “use a man for sex”, as long as both parties are aware of the motive, definitely doesn’t mean you have no self-respect.
I disagree that men are hardwired to stray. Only the selfish ones are hardwired to stray.
I also stated that was MY opinion. I don’t give two shits who’s fucking who and what the dynamics are. For ME, I’d like to think there’s more to me than just my vagina. I’ve done the NSA sex before and I felt icky afterwards. The whole idea just doesn’t sit well with me. Go out and have all the NSA sex you can — it’s really none of my business or concern. I just won’t be doing it anytime soon.
Funny thing about “safe sex,” too, is, you can be as safe as possible, but accidents can still happen. For example: herpes can be transmitted even when a condom is worn. And if someone has the herpes virus and hasn’t had a breakout and is unaware that they have it they can still pass it on. And the pill/condoms/whatever isn’t 100% definitely, positively effective against preventing pregnancy. I’d be really pissed if my SO cheated on me with someone who had herpes and then gave it to me. I’d also be really pissed if they got someone else knocked up.
Maybe self-respect is not the issue, but neither is whether it’s a cheating guy or a cheating gal.
To get back to the original post, OB is pissed that the “cheatee” lets it go, and gets mad at the person the “cheater” cheated with.
Lots of people cheat, and lots of people knowingly sleep with someone in a relationship.
Lots of people forgive cheating SOs and blame the person they cheated with.
If you fall into any of these categories and you’re vocal about it, you put yourself out there to get judged.
So if you don’t want to throw yourself under the bus, either keep it in your pants until you have whatever mutually-agreeable arrangements you and your partners’ (HA!) heart desires – or just don’t tell anyone about your bedroom antics, which are nobody’s F-ing business anyway.
Oh – and in response to PK’s herpes comment – Years ago I listened to a radio sex-advice show where a guy called in to say he was cheating on his pregnant wife with a neighbor who had herpes, and he was concerned the baby might get it on the way out the birth canal.
The host asked him what neighborhood he lived in to send him to a nearby clinic, and apparently the wife was listening to the show as well, because the next day there was a story in the paper about a pregnant woman beating up her husband outside a sex clinic.
ZING!
that p.f. is very interesting. are you saying here and now, that you would go for it, even if YOU were in a relationship? some inquiring minds have to know? and are you going to our next meet and greet, it’ll be a hoot.
Yeah, some ppls would rather be the person he/she is cheating with than the person he/she is cheating on. It’s so common. MANY people beleive that no man can be faithful, or that we are only as faithful as our options. Many ppls beleive that about women too. They weren’t born beleiving this, they were conditioned to. They’ve never seen someone remain faithful. They say for every crime that gets solved 10 go unsolved. So how many ppls who you know may be cheating on their SO’s? Some ppls just aren’t interested in commited relationships. I wouldn’t feel bad about sleeping with someone else’s wife or girlfriend because I don’t have an agreement with anyone. If their relationship wasn’t lacking something they wouldn’t be in my bed. Blame yourself if your partner cheats, either because you got too comfortable or because you were a bad judge of their character. Many people ignore signs that their partner is unhappy because they don’t know how to have difficult conversations. And many ppls turn a blind eye to signs of cheating because…. for lack of a better term they’re idiots.
I’ve never been cheated on in my adult life because I’m very selective about who I get into relationships with, I make sure to keep the relationship spicy and fun and have open communication and give them no reason to stray. I’m a man though, some men you can give em the moon n the stars n they’ll still cheat, that’s why you have to look out for the signs. I think when someone cheats, most of the time, unless the cheater just has no regard/remorse, the blame goes on the 2 ppls in the relationship and no one else. The person they cheated with has made no promises to anybody. I don’t blame drug dealers for people being crackheads either.
It doesn’t mean you have no self respect pf, true, however few women can detach the emotional from sex, and that’s just reality.
Yes, I would be ok with my significant other sleeping with other women (as I stated earlier), as long as some guidelines were followed (being safe, being discreet). Also, I better be getting sex as much as I wanted from the relationship… as long as my needs were met first, both emotionally and physically, he can sleep with other women. OR, my first choice would be for us to just have a threesome if he felt the need to have sex with someone else.
AHAHAHAHAHA. I love it, Gidget.
I agree with you 110% too on the whole leaving your bedroom antics in your bedroom thing. If you don’t want to be judged — keep it between you and whomever your partner is. I mean how many SOs find out their SO is cheating because either the cheater or the cheatee blabbed to someone? I certainly don’t advertise who I have or have not slept with or details from those encounters because it’s no one’s business but my own and my respective partners. *shrug*
“It doesn’t mean you have no self respect pf, true, however few women can detach the emotional from sex, and that’s just reality.”
EXACTLY, donk. Especially since only something like 30% of women actually get off during sex. There’s gotta be some emo content there if you’re not getting off.
Which is exactly why I say be discreet about it… it’s no one’s place to judge, so don’t let it out for the world to know. My relationships are my business, no one elses. Like I said, what works for some, might not work for others.
Donk- I do agree that most women can’t seperate the emotional from sex… which is why I would never personally want to sleep with other men if I was in a relationship. But, I would be ok with my man doing it… I just don’t want to know the specifics.
First off – I missed You Miss Fire!
Second- Tommy:
“If their relationship wasn’t lacking something they wouldn’t be in my bed”. Bull shit. Some relationships are great – lots of communication, lots of sex, and a person will stray’s for their own selfish reasons…from low self esteem (ugly guy/girl gets married early…attractive girl/guy they could never get when single is suddenly interested…they’re just shocked that the hot chick/dude wants a piece and they screw up).
PK: If when your partner cheats on you – you first ask yourself “what I did wrong to cause this?” – then it’s not the cheater with the low self esteem – it’s the person being cheated on.
WE ARE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS PEOPLE!!
I feel the same way PF. Now I dunnno exactly how many women I’d be ok with him sleeping with, lol, but I think that’s an option down the road for sure. Just don’t tell her your hopes and dreams and lie there whispering sweet nothings to her. Also I think it takes a “strong” man to do this and separate the two … wife and “other conquests”. I could see him growing resentful and wondering why you let him do these things. I think “true love” is having the option and not abusing it, really considering your partner and how what you do affects them, which is why I wouldn’t sleep with other men (despite wanting to have the option to do so).
Donk- I 100% agree with everything you just said. I wouldn’t want him to lay there after talking about life, but I would be ok with it being a “wham, bam thank you ma’am” situation… sometimes… not every other night.
PurpleFire, your ggg openess doesn’t suit everyone. If you and your s/o haven’t put this theory into practice, you have yet to know exactly how it does feel knowing your sweetie is sharing such an intimate part of himself with another. Even the sister-wives on tv who knowingly choose a shared man struggle with their emotions. Most women don’t want to share their man. There is a wide divide between giving your blessing for your mate to enjoy a bit on the side and being cheated upon behind your back. If that kind of cheating is so respectful then why do the participants need to sneak around and keep it secret? If you are able to enjoy an open relationship then you are a rarity among women. And likely every man’s dream.
I didn’t say that your choices were bad, PF. If you’re ok with your SO sleeping with other women, cool. But, as someone who HAS been cheated on in the past (thus shattering my trust for the opposite sex — something I’m still working on bigtime), it just kills me to think of my SO being with someone else based on the fact that that woman likely does get some sort of emotional pleasure out of fucking my SO.
And I never said women who do the whole NSA sex thing have low self esteem, BUT, more often than not, women who have RELATIONSHIPS with married men get very emotionally involved. Thing *is* the chances he’s going to leave his wife aren’t really that great, and the chances that he’ll prioritize you over her… well I doubt they’re very strong. If he really cared about whomever he’s cheating with he would be with them and only them. And maybe it’s just me, but i’d like to think the person I’m with wants to be with me and only me. Maybe that’s a little pie in the sky, but I don’t really think wanting to be the most important person in my SO’s life is an unreasonable expectation. If the guy has a wife — I’m obviously not first in his life and I’m settling for second best. And no one should have to do that.
Personally I think if you’re not in a relationship that involves open and honest communication, then anything that goes wrong is because you are not being open and honest w/your partner.
Or because they are being open and honest with you, but you are not hearing them/believing they’ll change, etc. (or vice versa).
We all *say* we want certain things in a mate, but how often do we “settle” for something we know is not right at the beginning, and then refuse to do anything about it?
I have an honest/open partner NOW, and although sometimes I might feel like he’s *too* open and honest, I’ll take that over my cheating-alcoholic-emotionally distant ex any day. (And yes, I knew from the get-go with the ex that there were issues, but I was an idiot for awhile…)
About 75% of the women I’ve know who pursued or slept with married men don’t actually WANT a relationship with them.
It’s the fact that they don’t have to get emotionally involved that draws these paerticular women to a married guy. They feel like they can’t get hurt if they already know the guys isn’t available.
Not saying it’s right, but that’s been where most of the married-chasers I am acquainted with sit in the grand scheme of things.
The other 25% either believed they were going to eventually end up with the guy, or had a history with him not unlike the gal in the “Good Going” post.
Here I go again …
I should clarify that this wouldn’t happen right out of the gate in a relationship (at least for me). This has to be down the line after he and I have invested significant time into building a life etc etc. It gets a lot harder to lay with another then.
I hate this topic. Puts you off relationships!
I dunno, I figure if, for some reason, I wasn’t getting my SO off as much as he’d like, the only lady he’d be cheating on me with is Miss Rosey Palm.
Or a blow up doll. I’d probably be ok with that. 😛
Seriously when I’m fat, in pain and old I don’t want a man trying to bang me. Go do that freaky shit with some other chick. Wrong of me, maybe, but take your peen elsewhere.
Lol, I’m serious about that btw.
Actually. I am in accordance with your proclaimation, Donk.
My SO can cheat when I’m too old to boink. AND ONLY THEN.
Some days I *feel* too old, does that count? LOL
There’s an expiration date on boinkage?
Yes, take your old man penis elsewhere, my cave is closed today. Thanks.
*boinkage* now there’s a good word
Nah, there’s no universal expiration date on boinkage, but I figure at SOME point I’m gonna rather get an enema than the peen.
jees its a complete vagina fest in here, i think i’m slowly growing one.
Anglo: Well that’s better than being sebastard, the ultimate vagina envy-er.
Some threads just have their own lives – this one happens to be full of estrogen and vage.
Glad you like ny verbage bread-sis.
Rawkin’ dalek-atar Anglo.
verbs, nouns, madeup words…it’s all good
Ha ha i have nothing against it, please continue its fun to read 😀
Ok, I definitely don’t have time to read all these comments right now, but I saw something you wrote PF and I have to touch on it:
“Who are you guys to say it’s an unhealthy relationship if the man isn’t solely sleeping with his girlfriend/wife?” Whoa, I never said that it couldn’t be unhealthy. It can be completely healthy if two people are in an a secure relationship and have enough communication between each other to bring in a third party in a way that both parties are completely comfortable with. The difference, it wouldn’t be cheating.
“In my opinion, although I know it won’t be a popular one, most men aren’t designed to sleep solely with one person.”
I don’t think any human is, male or female. The thing is, if you enter into a relationship or marriage with the understanding that no other parties are involved, and go behind ones back to do it, that is 100% not ok!
There are lots of people that are willing to explore different routes in relationships. You can explore other people on your own, bring someone into the bedroom, kiss others, flirt with others. All these things can be done within a relationship comfortably, and really spice things up with the sex that is going on between said two people, but it has to be agreed on. If you can’t go without the above situation, than you need to find someone else that CAN do the above situation. I also believe this can’t be done at a time when there is any negativity in a relationship, this would tear it apart.
GGG BABY! 😀
sebastian says “tighter cunt to fuck” in the hopes that “tighter cunt” means him. and we all know that respectable men, even if they’re cheaters, aren’t going to toss him a bone.
I agree with FA 100%. That was my point too, really — as long as it’s agreed upon, cool. Tons of people have various forms of open relationships, but if one party doesn’t agree and the other party goes out and does it: it’s cheating.
FA- I agree with what you’re saying, and my response was not directed at you.
PK- It doesn’t read like that was your point at all. According to you “And I tend not to think of men as a means to get off. I have more self respect and respect for men than that.” Which is you saying people who have sex just to have sex don’t have a lot of self respect.
Thanks PK, That is actually a much shorter version of what I was trying to say.
And how do you change your profile name?
PF, I know it wasn’t. I just wanted to jump in on what you were saying as I thought it was a valid point, main thing being the word “cheating” as the word has a very negative connotation to me.
PF, have you heard of the book “Sex at Dawn”?
It is suppose to be really good, I have it, but haven’t read it yet, so can’t say anything about it myself.
I haven’t heard of it… what’s it about? Maybe I’ll pick it up tomorrow!
ivan, are we guys sure we want to go to the next summit, there be plenty of females there, and holy moly, they might just get all rambunctous like on us poor dudes.
From my understanding it is about how monogamy isn’t really natural, and it takes a look at humans sexually from a historical stand point.
It than argues that it is society that has made us feel like it is natural, when really it isn’t. Like I said, I haven’t read it yet myself, but I read the first few pages of it when I bought it not too long ago and it sounds like it is going to be really interesting. Plus all the people I know that have read it really enjoyed it.
http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Dawn-Prehistoric…
PF: my points: people can fuck whomever they want and can have whatever kind of relationship they want, however, I tend not to use men for sex. And I don’t like the idea of being used for sex. If you’re alright with that, cool, but I would like to think that there’s a lot more to me than just my vag and I’d like to think I’m a lot more than just sexual plumbing. If I allowed guys to use me for sex I don’t think I’d be showing myself such respect. And I’d never use a guy for sex because I think a lot more to men than just their penises. These are MY opinions. If you want to go and have sex for the sake of having sex, fine. It’s just not my thing. I don’t feel comfortable letting someone use me to get off. If I needed to get off that badly, I’d just do it myself for crying out loud. I’m sure the men of the world can do the same thing. I also don’t feel comfortable with being with someone in an open relationship. So, if they went and had sex with someone else, that would be cheating. Maybe I look at sex with a little too much emotion, but to me it’s not so much about getting off as it is being intimate with a person I care about and am attracted to. And I don’t really want him sharing that intimacy with someone else.
Don’t worry suckers. I’ll try to restrain myself. 😛
i wouldn’t dream of you, trying to hold back. for you i’m yours. and to the rest, man has always been known for their hunting/gathering capabilities. man has always looked for the strongest mate, just like back in the days of uncle caveman.
it is a well known fact, that a female, will attach herself, and rightly so, to the dominant male of a pack. in today’s world, that could mean big bucks/security/mating rituals, etc..
most males are geared to fuck/fuckup. and most males think with the little brain, not the big one in their noggins. being a male, would i bed down with another female, if i was in any type of relationship, no. if i were single, and on the prowl, then any willing female is fair game. and this would apply also to non ring wearing females. i have been there before, and it was hard to say to the female, no, you are involved/whatever. the man part of me, has to decide what is right or not. if i were to bed down, let’s just say kitty, and her or i was with someone else, then i would feel like shit. my advice, if in a relationship, not going well, looking for somme on the side. male or female, just end said relationship, period. it’s easier on all parties involved, and could really save some cash in divorce court if married.
that’s about the best i can think of at this time, mind kinda fuzzy, bed is close at hand, nite, nite all.
You really want to get a cheat going? Ask them to join a swinger’s club and see the reaction when they figure out you’re going to get some too. They want to cheat but they don’t want you to.
“They want to cheat but they don’t want you to.”
Yup.
You know what they say Lifer “Well mannered wimmin rarely change history; but they do get dinner ready on time and your shirts are always ironed.”
I disagree Bro Tim, it has to be the right situation, but it can work. But it cannot work if it is cheating! That is different!
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LS, will you shut up about the god damn summit?
half of halifax is going to show up and gang-rape us.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oNRQcEDg0t0/0.jpg
you know where it is, when it is… and who’s going to be there.
so leave it alone.
🙁 now I feel bad *sniff*
“half of halifax is going to show up and gang-rape us.” LOL
He’d like that zZz.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2151/180154…
I really do feel bad now 🙁
Don’t feel bad baby. We’re big boyz. We’ll all be showing up with Rape-Axes up our jacksies.
And because I just can’t get enough of “buttsecks” images, here’s another:
http://pimpcastle.com/wp-content/uploads/2…
Talking about suprise butt sex =O
http://www.dogmine.com/wp-content/uploads/…
more, I wasn’t being adverse the other day, whatever. & as far as my ex being a guy…she’s working on her 4th set of balls…
Back to the geneticaly programed to cheat. Getting into the anthropology of promiscuity would just take too long. Do your own reading, and yes it makes a lot of sense….for what, 80,000 (arbitrary number) years ago? I’d like to think that we’ve grown, in those hundreds of generations.
I’m in complete agreement with oceanchick.
Holy CRAP that cat looks like a smaller version of Oscar. The other day there was a fly in the air and he literally jumped in the air and did a flipy turn thing like in the temptations ad. It was *awesome*.
Is it just me or when you read the man up ladies you hear the old spice guy in your head.
Just you Anglo 😛
At least I imagine you will be the only one to admit it.
I think its just the Hello ladies bit at the start.
FA (This&That)- I bought the book (Sex at Dawn) yesterday… I actually can’t wait to start reading it. Thanks for the suggestion!!
wasn’t that Val Venus?