After having been divorced for 5 years and paying my child support every month and never missing a payment I retired from my $56,000.00/year job. Took a pension of $1,250.00/month after she took half of it. Now my net pay is $1,010.00/month.
But, maintenance enforcement still wants me to pay $940.00/month like I was still earning what I was when I was working. Told them what my new income is, provided them with written proof from my pension provider and they still want $940.00/month.
Now they are garnisheeing my pension for $940.00/month!!!
Called and asked for consideration and they sent me out a 16 page questionaire and want my tax returns for 2006, 07 & 08 to prove my ability to pay!!!
How are those tax returns going to prove my ability to pay in 2010 and when I asked why they said because that is what we want. And they have the legal right to ask for whatever information they want.
Asked them how I am going to pay my rent and eat and they said to bad so sad nothing they are willing to do, IF I want it reduced I will have to get in line at family court and wait for a date there. And I do not live in the best part of town–in a part of Dartmouth(the hood or slums as i call it) in a scuzzy little bachelor.
Couldn’t afford to buy my kids a Christmas gift or buy food so they could come for dinner!!
Sent numerous E Mails to two different ministers(one of them couldn’t even find the time to respond or acknowledge my E Mails) and my MLA and that was a grand waste of time, they are all proving to be useless. Figure it must be because I am a male, wonder what would have happend if it was the opposite sex complaining.
There is absolutely no place to complain about their lack of humanity at all. No repurcission to their actions so they do not care what it does to the person they want to pay money. It could kill the person and they would still say court order–go to court to change and no consideration at all.
I have no problem paying child support.
My question is how can the government make legislation to give a government department the power to force a law abiding tax paying citizen to live on the street and go hungry??
And no place to complain to have it changed in a timely manner??
I have come to believe that they have a bunch of bitter man hating females working at maintenance enforcement, the one time i was in that office even the front clerk was snotty
I have come to understand why so many men now work under the table for cash.
–langd8
This article appears in Jan 21-27, 2010.
whatever happened to ombudsman???
If I were a man, I’d gobble my own dick to the root before I’d get married. Your situation is absolutely appalling, OP – most men take a financial shit-kicking in these situations but what you have gone through is fucking ridiculous. I hope you can get through all this without becoming too bitter.
If I could put my dick in my mouth I wouldn’t need to get married.
Sorry buddy, you’re fucked.
I don’t want to be a downer, but you have no recourse in any way, shape, or form.
The payment schedule is based on what you have proven you could earn, not what you actually are now earning. The system is based on the fact that “all” men are dishonest and must be regulated and hounded as they have no love for their children.
Sorry!
It’s stories like this that make me want to never get married or reproduce. My parents split, and my father paid support until the day I moved in with him. Child support, fine and dandy. “Spousal support” makes my bile ducts go into overdrive. At least my Mom worked and didn’t accept any more than was absolutely necessary to deal with me!
And on the 8th day God (A Lawyer, no doubt) created the Pre-Nup, which will protect you from the voracious salary grabbing bint, that was once your sweetheart.
buddy, you need to go back to family court and apply for a “support order variance” supplying current financial information (read the original order, instructions are provided). You WILL be heard in Family Court. It’s not the job nor the authority of maintenance enforcement to set your rate of support, all they do is collect on a court order. Only a judge can vary the amount of your child support order. In the meantime you may want to look up the standard amount of child support the Federal Guideline allocates based on your CURRENT income.
It costs NOTHING to file for a variance in family court. You’re wasting your time, energy and your money by arguing with a provincial collection agent who should probably have been more forthcoming in telling you not only that you HAVE to go to court to get a variance but also in how to go about doing that. Call the family court or visit their website to get the form you need to apply. And if I were you, I’d apply this request for variance be back-dated to the date your income changed… can’t hurt to ask. (they back-date child support orders all the time so it can work BOTH ways)
Don’t get me wrong… the kid deserves child support but only as much as the parent can reasonably afford. The other side is, yes, the government is not charged with making you homeless as a result of their collection tactics. It’s a human rights issue but in this case they’re not collecting for themselves so there’s no penalty or tax remission to relax for you. It’s really up to you to have that order varied so the collection action stops.
Work the system! It’s certainly worked you. Hurry. Good luck.
Sorry Basil, doesn’t work for child support.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/15/georgi…
Matthew, would you mind posting a link relevant to CANADIAN law? This ain’t Georgia.
Here’s one: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/fcy-fea/li…
this is the most fucking disgusting thing i’ve read all day.
Kay is right.
three words that will forever haunt me.
oh zZz, you’ve done it before. It’s not so bad.
You’re retired and have a child that still requires child support? Get another job to support yourself, you have a duty to support your offspring.
Get your kids under your roof…then she has to pay child support.
The worst part of this is that it’s your ex-wife that reported that missed payments, and she likely knows what your situation is…gotta love that irrepressible selfishness.
Cash out your pension and leave the country if all else fails.
PS: Come on zZz…I will even say it! Kay is right!
sarey, your an idiot, thats all that needs to be said…
Please Note: Due to the discovery of heinous crimes of ignorance in another bitch thread, I must recind the “Kay is Right” post regardless of the accuracy of her post in this thread.
That is all, good day.
LOL LTWWB is FUN today! I’ve been giggle the whole time. Thanks bitches and special thanks to you DER. Have an awesome weekend.
I’ve been giggle the whole time
HAHA
Perfect english there !!!
actually, hog, that’s called typing too fast and is not usually indicative of a person’s level of intelligence but you keep trying! Start by capitalizing the word, English 😉
Either way it still isn’t proper english no matter how you wanaa justify it .
The OP is the idiot here, LoGiC. He was ‘retiring’ on a pension, and didn’t bother to set anything up with the courts before hand? Check into it a little bit? He has kids that still require child support and he just ‘retires’? Stops paying, forcing the courts to garnish his wages. Great way to think about his children. “Fuck the kids, I don’t want to work anymore!” Weeee.
hog, English is a proper noun. Learn it and fuck off.
sarey, you have a point but I dare say the man is allowed to retire AND his child support can be reduced accordingly. Too bad, so sad, that’s life.
My ex only had to pay $150/month in child support, and hasn’t paid a cent in well over two years. The ridiculous number of jobs he’s quit/gotten fired from reduced his ability to pay.
What did maintenance enforcement do for me?
Jackfuckingshit.
And now, apparently, both lawyers who did up the child support contract/agreement aren’t practicing anymore…i cant get hold of either. So, i’m screwed, and he’s suing for custody, mainly because i asked for child support to start being paid again, and because our son is 9 now and easier to care for.
It’s douchebags like that who make maintenance enforcement workers hate men.
sarey, you must be a bitter woman, court date has been made, but, it is a matter of getting in line and waiting for it to happen. NO quick fixes as you seem to think. If i had a fuck the kids attitude i would have quit work years ago and got away from the hell of a place i called work and i would not have paid to start with. Give your head a shake and find some common sense if it is possible. Retirement was a matter of keeping my health and sudden.
Wow…sorry for your crappy experience Rawr. HopefullyMaybe his inconsistent nature can be used against him in the custody fight?
“If i had a fuck the kids attitude”
Pardon me what?
OK here it goes. Kay is right. Go to family court and show your financials. In fact the court may rule you have overpaid since your retirement and reduce the current til it balances out, just as they can order back payment if you have changed jobs and got a higher paying job.
sarey since the OB hasn’t stated his age or occupation, it may be a matter that he has to retire. A least he has been meeting his financial obligations.
justhadtosay, I am far from bitter, just amazed at your piss-poor planning abilities. Was your retirement a surprise? Why didn’t you get things organized before your ‘retirement’ date? You have kids, so you have a moral and legal obligation to support them.
sarey, the OP has never missed a payment. Just settle down. I was awarded a whopping $150/mo from my deadbeat whom I did have to track down for maintenance enforcement. This man does not sound like a “deadbeat” to me. The OP is paying through the NOSE (if it’s only one child) and DESERVES to have his support adjusted in “legal and moral” fashion. I’ll bet you’re all behind subsidized housing for young, single parents to get an education so they can provide better for their kid’s future. The OP is on the other end of that spectrum and deserves the same kind of encouragement to support his children the best he can. Go get’r OP. You can do this.
while honest seperated men are getting the shaft; if you’re a dirtbag you can beat the system. I recently broke off a 6 year common law relationship with a woman that had 2 kids from a prior marriage; he went on odsp (welfare) and didn’t pay a cent in all the time i was with this woman; meanwhile i sunk 60,000 grand into a restaurant and worked 100 hours a week while this fuck worked under the table and collected like 1000/month plus benefits
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/roberts-c…
$150 buck a month?? That would cover groceries for teenager for two weeks tops…wtf Kay, though we spar and battle like two old alley cats…that is pretty shitty.
Good to see our system treating every situation fairly (not)…it sounds more like a craps shoot, maybe they have that old wheel from The Price is Right and just fucking spin the thing to see what they are going to make someone pay.
The support award is based on HIS income, of which he claimed he had none, it was the best the judge could do. The beauty of this story is it took the MEP 9 YEARS to do their job. I lived in a different province so they found it easy to put my file at the bottom of the investigations bin and NEVER followed up. The deadbeat stayed with his sister who would claim he didn’t live there. In ’98 (I think it was) Court of Queens Bench amended the Act in that province to state those found interfering with an investigation to the point of frustration could be (A) fined up to $10k and/or (B) made responsible for the duration of the order (let’s base my support award on the sister’s mighty income, hehe). The MEP office, despite encouragement from their provincial Ombudsman, actually told me that part of the law is not enforceable because the stupid bitch denied he lived there so he couldn’t be served notice of default hearing and there’s nothing they could do (right along the same lines as serving him at that address… REAL rocket science!) Without being able to serve him nothing happens. Instead of picking a fight with the country I moved to that province and within 12 days served him with a notice of default hearing MYSELF at the SAME address the MEP had on file for the past 9 years. I collected over $10k in back support in less than two years after that. It’s a system worth working for your kids but you definitely need another source of income and an incredible amount of patience. The education in Family Law came free, so to speak. Maybe I should thanks them for absolutely nothing.
To be truthful DER I really enjoy strong personality’s so you just keep up the good work.
“The Ontario Superior Court of Justice addressed the question of early retirement in the September 30, 2003 case of Moffatt v. Moffatt. After the couple separated in 1997, they entered into a separation agreement that placed their two children with the mother. The father was a teacher and earned $63,000 per year. In June 2001, he took advantage of a temporary window of opportunity and chose to take early retirement. He accepted the converted value of his teachers’ pension in the sum of $526,026.63 and left the workforce.
Mr. Justice Campbell decided that the father, by choice, had become intentionally under-employed as described in section 19 of the Child Support Guidelines. The court decided that the father made a decision to benefit himself and himself only. Because the father was only 54 years old when he took early retirement, and because he had an ongoing obligation to his two children, his decision had a significant negative impact on his two children.
The father was ordered to pay child support for his children in the amount of $929 per month based upon an attributed income of $70,200 per year that would continue up to the date when he otherwise would have been entitled to retire.”
sarey, the OP’s “Retirement was a matter of keeping [his] health and sudden”
Doesn’t really compare, does it?
You too Kay,
Like I said…we battle like alley cats (and deep down we both do love it) but I must I am glad to hear the system EVENTUALLY did right by you and your kid. It’s not fair lowlifes work a system to take advantage of the less fortunate, especially when it’s their kid. How a father could behave like that is beyond my comprehension…I was a kid of divorce but fortunately my father was there and continued to provide support to me, my brother and sister and my mom.
If I had a brother that was failing to live up to his obligations like that I would had told him to man the fuck up and then either kicked him out or turned him in…
Now that it’s all over it’s easy to see how it happened…. kids shouldn’t be having kids with other kids (see advice on not fucking under 30 men, hehe)! To credit the deadbeat he really didn’t have a chance at life. My son was better prepared for adult living at 12 than the deadbeat is today so we forgive him for being a fucking loser as long as we don’t have to see him (my son’s choice… yes, he was given the choice).
I’d rather hang with strong people with strong opinions who can challenge me. There’s NOTHING worse than the passive victim so I’m happy to say you’re not that, DER. I’ll meet ya in the middle of bitch central. Maybe I’ll see you tomorrow night, eh?
Absolutely, I love LTWWB…heck I was trying to remember when I first started posting, funny thing is I can’t seem to remember but I know it has been years at this point (off and on of course).
That’s why I love it here though…strong minded folk. ; )
my first bitch was about 8 yrs. ago…i signed death to you all. it was a bitch about some tard running in to me when i was on my bike. they even printed her tag number. in the bizarro world about a year
Is there anyway to see all of our old posts (the archived stuff) Andy?
ain’t it nice to be a male, and get snagged like that? now maybe they should go after all the welfare moms kid’s dads, to get a little for them too. but when you ave 6 kids by as many mates,well…..
Well my son is 21, in his 3rd year of university, lives with his Mom, and I am STILL required by law to pay child support until he is finished school. He works at leats 4 months a year (making 18 bucks an hour tax free because he is a student) and the govt expects me to pay his Mom 420 a month (like it is costing her 840 a month to house and feed him when he is hardle there) plus half his books, plus half his tuition. Want to know the ironice thing? If We were still married I would not be required (by law) to pay ANYTHING for his education. Do not get we wrong. I have been divorced 9 years and have never missed a payment and I am more than happy to help my son get through university. But let me say this. Women are all for “equal treatment”, equal wages etc. But when it coems to standing before a judge they do not mind playing the “poor helpless me” card.
My own mother is one of those who take advantage of child support. I lived with her for most of my parents divorce (age 6-14) so yes, she should have gotten child support. My dad always paid her, and paid her more than he had to, and told my mom to give us the extra here and there so we always had some cash. She never did this. So he would just send us cash in the mail in cards. Strike one mom. Then, when I decided to live with my dad at age 14, my mom was more upset that she would not be getting money from my dad each month. My dad agreed to still send her money, to “shut her up” as he put it. Now I find out, my mom received money from the gov’t each month for me, about 90 bucks a month. Not much, but certainly enough for me to save for secondary education. I have not gotten any of this either. It just goes to show how even women can be dead beats, not just men so the system should not be so judgmental on men!
How do you put a price tag on parenting?
Moral of the story: all guys turn gay now, you won’t have to pay child support.
Sebastian, you always have such good ideas. You should run for office.