Vegan folks drive me nuts when they come eat at my restaurant, they always fuck around with the menu to suit their needs and i have to make some retarded dish that’s not even really on the menu.
i mean come on…our pad thai sauce is made with fish, so NO i’m not gonna on the spot make up some damn sauce that doesn’t have fish in it so you can eat our pad thai…tough fuckin shit!
And the bartender doesn’t really give a fuck that you make a big stink about the fact were not “respecting” your lifestyle.
Go eat at a vegan restaurant and shutup!!
—Satan’s Chef
This article appears in May 21-27, 2009.
Satan’s Chef, it’s not ‘retarded’ it’s ‘leotarded’. You have to make some leotarded dish that’s not even really on the menu. I’m doing you a favor, nine out of ten people who read this are going to get all offended by that word and ignore your bitch to tell you about what an awful person you are for saying it unless you take the proper precautions.
And yeah most vegans are annoying as shit. The ones that feel they are a minority and as such deserve a civil rights movement are so fucking annoying.
Certain restarants are flexible to those who are vegan, vegetarian, celiac, etc- others aren’t. So if you don’t like it, go get a job at…say a McDonald’s ‘restaurant’. Otherwise, shut up and do your job.
I’m with the OP on this one. What other business wants or encourages you to change the product line? There’s a difference between ‘hold the onions’ and ‘make a sauce just for me because I’m a special kind of carnivore’. If it ain’t on the menu kindly take your bullshit dietary requirements to the grocery store.
I don’t eat red meat, and my boyfriend doesn’t eat any meat. If we think there is a chance a restaurant doesn’t have a vegetarian option/won’t bend the rules a little, we won’t go there. Period. This idea is probably what the OP is looking for, but let me tell ya, a restaurant that caters to the customer is most definitely going to be praised by me, and the word gets around.
Just because you choose not to eat meat does not make you entitled to your own dish in a restaurant that does not advertise itself as vegetarian/vegan friendly. I choose not to eat mayonnaise. Can you imagine me saying “no, please go out back and whip up some other kind of mayo-esque condiment and make an entirely new potato salad… I don’t LIKE mayo”. NO. If you choose to be different from the mainstream, don’t expect to be catered to in a place that does not have the time/products/willingness to do so. Go eat at the Wooden Monkey.
You want to eat vegan? – stay the fuck home.
Isn’t this kind of like going into a shoe store that sells only sneakers and demanding something with heels? The menu says what they sell. If you don’t like that, it’s fair to ask for substitutions, but going on a rant about “respecting lifestyles” is bullshit.
It really comes down to whether or not this restuarant claims to be vegan/veggie friendly. If this chef is just pissed because of the decisions of the owners to allow vegan subs on the menu, then it’s this chef who is being the bitch. But you definitely don’t go and ask for changes on menu’s that don’t suggest it as an option.
I am kind of surprised at the lack of vegetarian options around this city. My sister is vegetarian, and we were in England, at a random pub for sunday dinner, and they had 2 completely vegetarian options for their sunday dinner menu alone, which only had 3 non vegetarian options.
I’m not entirely surprised there PAS. The average maritime diet is not exactly vegetable heavy. I don’t think the vegetarians and vegans are around in the numbers needed to make it worth while for most businesses to change their menus. Most of the veg*s here seem to be students anyway, so I would wonder if they are dropping enough money on eating out to make it worth while for more than a couple of specialty restaurants and a few “vegetarian options” at other places.
Maybe if the vegetarian community politely demanded more options, businesses might come around. Or if they started eating deep fried vegetables, the businesses would have an easier time adding options to the menu.
I cannot fucking STAND vegans (and some vegetarians to an extent). Every time they spout off about their lifestyle vs. ours or anyone else’s – they use the same stupid rhetoric: “choose, choice, i chose this, its all about choosing the right…., CHOICES!”
Well, bitches, I choose to eat meat and will continue to do so. I come from a family of hunters and I believe in eating other beings for survival.
Plus, science is now producing findings that plants do, in fact, feel some type of painful sensation when being cut or ripped out of the ground.
Fuck off, v-towners. I chose to buy my donair and I’m going to enjoy it. If you have something to say about it, say it to my foot while its winding up to hoof you in the tail.
There’s a place for all gods creatures – right next to the potatoes and carrots!
I’m 100% in agreement with the OP on this one. I worked in restaurants for years and there’s nothing more annoying than customers who want to rewrite the menu to suit their purposes.
There’s nothing stopping a potential customer from calling ahead to get menu info before coming in. And if it’s spur of the moment, most restaurants downtown post their menus in the window, so you can read it before you go in.
To the vegans who don’t agree: Can you imagine a meat-eater going into a vegan restaurant and demanding a steak even though it’s clearly not on the menu? Do you think they’d be accomodating?
$100 says I can get a vegan to eat my meat.:)
I’m totally in agreement with the OP’s gripe. In the past I’ve dealt with people who think they’re entitled to special treatment in restaurants, and it’s really obnoxious.
I don’t get where all this hostility towards vegans comes from though. It’s not like vegans are the only type of people who walk into a restaurant demanding special treatment. When the Atkins craze was in full force, you wouldn’t believe the number of idiots who expected menu items to be made Atkins-friendly just for them.
Not all vegans act like this, in fact those who do are a minority. You only notice the obnoxious ones because they’re the ones making a fuss. The majority of vegans/vegetarians, in my experience, are unassuming folks who don’t expect anyone to cater to them at all, and dine where they know they have options.
Enough with the vegan stereotyping, people. You’re all as bad as the evangelistic vegans, condemning people for what they eat and pronouncing yourselves superior. Assholes are assholes, whether they’re vegan or omnivore. Call people out for their behavior, not their dietary choices.
Nevermind said exactly what I was going to say- that if we went into a vegan restaurant and ordered meat, I’m sure we’d be laughed (or kicked) out of there. I do agree with the OP, although I don’t really have anything against vegans- to each their own. But if you are a vegan, either go to a vegan restaurant, go to a normal one and order something that doesn’t have meat (or fish sauce, or whatever) in it already, or stay home and cook something yourself. Or start eating meat. lol
IF God didn’t want us to eat meat…why did god make it so tastey ?
Hell yeah, NGF! I come from a family of hunters too. Every winter there was at some point one deer draining from its hind legs in our garage so we could take it to the butcher. None of that salt-lick deer stand bullshit, we tracked them with the help of my uncles beagle and shot them with a bow. We used everything, and the meat lasted so long. You haven’t lived until you’ve eaten fresh deer meat.
I agree with me0w for the record. Assholery is spread relatively evenly throughout the population. The assholes of every group be they vegan or hunters just stand out more, and ruin the image of the non-assholes. Like hunters get a bad rep because of the few that shoot their deer stuff the head and chuck the rest of it, makes my blood boil.
justsayin: thanks but I think if we went into a vegan restaurant and ordered steak, we’d be more than laughed at – they’d probably throw red paint on us! 🙂
true enough. lol
me0w: Because the most visible vegans are condescending assholes who judge anyone not up to their standards as inferior and uneducated low brow morons. For people who are supposed to be leading a little harm as possible lifestyle, they tend to be massively close-minded assholes with a fundamentalist attitude.
You generally don’t know when nice people are vegans unless it comes up in a minor conversation. The others must announce it to you to express their superiority.
SD: We appear to be in agreement. As I said in my previous post, there’s a minority of in-your-face, self-aggrandizing vegan asswipes who everyone seems to be basing their opinion of vegans on. Extremists of any sort always make a bad name for everyone else. I’m just opposing the unnecessary aggression and stereotyping that is evident in this thread. It’s not the dietary choice that everyone is opposed to, it’s the attitude of entitlement. I’m merely suggesting that the animosity should be properly directed.
Possibility #1:
The OP owns the restaurant (“MY restaurant”).
In this case, I totally agree. You are completely within your rights to forgo potential business from vegans (and vegetarians, since you are talking about fish) and accept less money in exchange for an easier-to-please clientele. …and any customer who thinks otherwise is a complete idiot.
Possibility #2:
The OP does not own the restaurant (“i HAVE TO make some retarded dish”).
In this case, it is up to the owners. If they have decided that it is worth it to allow substitutions, STFU and do your job.
What bugs me is how vegetarians, particularly vegans think they have some allergy to meat — like they’d die if they eat one morsel of meat, meanwhile, I know people with actual allergies, and other diabetics like myself who always look at menus and find what they/we CAN eat. i’ve never once asked for a dish modification based on my dietary needs. I’ve just picked out what I could eat and ordered that. The ONLY thing I’ve ever asked to modify was ask for cheddar or mozzarella cheese instead of swiss because I don’t like swiss cheese 😛 I have a milk allergy and can only tolerate a bit of cheese, and instead of asking the restaurant to skip all the dairy ingredients in a certain dish I just *gasp* don’t order it. I know plenty of vegetarians who will say “I’ll have the pasta, but hold the chicken” and most restaurants are happy to comply with simple requests — NOT a re write of the menu. If you want a specific dish, stay home and make it yourself.
If *I* can find something to eat on a fucking restaurant menu without having to be a pain in the ass, then I’m sure those who just choose not to eat something because they don’t like it can as well.
Those same vegans complain when it takes forever for them to get the food. I understand that vegans have the right to choose, but here’s my issue: just because you have the right to choose that doesn’t mean you get to have special treatment everywhere you go. In fact; I’d find it hard to believe that most restaurants in this city can afford to have a “vegan” (which is far from vegetarian) and a normal alternative. Think of that: do you think it’s financially viable for the restaurant to stock vegan food for that one patron who comes in once a month to buy a dish that costs the patron 6.99, and it’s costs the restaurant 3.00 (including the labour for argument’s sake) to make, but when the restaurant tosses the spoiled alternatives (we wouldn’t want to poison our vegan friends now would we?) it costs them 15.00 in total, and now they’ve gotta get more to ensure that their vegan alternative on the menu, for that one person who comes in once a month. It’s one or the other, and that’s just a good business decision. Just because I’m lactose intolerant, I don’t go into the restaurant and demand a non-dairy alternative, and that’s not even a belief, it’s a food allergy! Just because you choose to go into a steak restaurant, that doesn’t mean you get to order whatever the hell you want.
Is the vegan diet any different than what a typical restaurant keeps in terms vegetables, rice, etc? Just sayin’, it’s probably not like that, Fever. It’s more likely what the OP is saying.. just a modification to an existing menu item. I stand by my original post though, don’t consider yourself special and entitled to an imaginary menu.
yeah, I’m thinking if they’re going to add a vegan alternative, they’d make it comprise of regular stock from their current and much tastier carnivore dishes.
at least, the would if they were smart.
or as kitty said, have an alfredo linguine with steamed broccoli and a chicken alfredo with steamed broccoli right under it.
that’s what I’d do anyways.
in order to prove a point, I say all of us proud meat eaters go to a vegan restaurant and order thusly: “Um, this rabbit food on a bed of Orzo sounds yum, but I need iron and protein… couyld you throw a porterhouse on that for me?” If they say no and explain they are a vegan restaurant, then we scream: “You don’t respect my needs! It’s my lifestyle! You should be ashamed!” Why is it okay for vegans to futz around at ‘regular’ restaurants, but not vice versa?
The Restaurant in question could go back about 50 years and post a sign saying “We don’t serve Vegans/Vegetarians here”. Then when a bold and brazen vegan enters demanding his rights he should get those rights and lefts as he’s slapped senselessly with some liver and a prime rib.
In a lot of cases, making a vegan dish doesn’t require any special ingredients. Many restaurants have vegan dishes, or easily-modified-to-vegan dishes, whether they realize it or not, although Pad Thai is certainly not one of them. (Neither is Alfredo Linguine, zZz, it’s got dairy in it)
BlackRose, I’d love to see you try to go into a vegan restaurant in Halifax to ‘futz around’ with their menu….because there are none. This is not a complaint, just a statement of fact. Also, FYI, there’s plenty of iron and protein available in non-meat sources. Just sayin’….
You guys do realize that there are plenty of obnoxious, entitled jerks that demand special treatment in restaurants, and only a few of them happen to be vegan, right? Sorry, I’m just playing devil’s advocate here……
I like going into restaurants pretending to be vegan and making all kinds of prickish demands on the staff like “the broccoli isn’t rare enough” or “this cream sauce better be made with non-dairy creamer”.
ok, make it from soy milk…
(seriously me0w, I actually forgot they can’t have dairy… thanks)… and why would anyone subject themselves to such a tasteless life?!?!?!?!
no cheese? no cream? no meat/eggs?
ug, no wonder they’re pissed off all the time.
I really don’t get how some people say that the vegan diet is healthier, can someone explain it to me?
It’s not necessarily any healthier, fizz. The only potential health benefit I am aware of would be a reduction in animal-derived fats and cholesterol, but you wouldn’t have to go vegan to reduce your fat intake, and a vegan could be deep-frying their tofu and veg and end up being a lard-ass anyway. You could argue that someone who eats vegan might be more aware of what they eat, and therefore make healthier choices, but again, that’s not always the case. Not eating factory farmed meats is certainly better for you, due to the content of antibiotics, hormones, etc in the meat, but you don’t have to go vegan to eliminate that stuff either. So yeah, there isn’t really any sort of guaranteed health benefit to going vegan that can’t be attained by other means. I think it’s more of an ethics or dietary control thing than a health thing really.
Eating deer meat makes you more resistant to Lyme disease.
yeah and it’s yuckie too… in a stew, mixed into sausage, yummie but straight up cuts, yuck!… just my 2 cents on eating bambi
Loll…eating bambi…
I cooked the most fabulous deer roast recently – slow roasted for 24 hours. The meat literally slid off the bone while it was still in the pan. I didn’t eat it myself, but my dinner guests said it was the best wild game they had ever had.
Do you treat it somehow to deal with the gamey taste? I used to get wild geese every year (legal hunt) and I’d soak those babies in salt water until they pretty much ran clear (get the blood out)… was salmon of the prairie’s. Can we do something similar to cuts of venison?
The gamey taste generally comes from the fat. Slow roasting causes the fat to melt away, resulting in meat that’s lean and exceptionally tender. I usually stuff it with garlic and roast it for between 22-26 hrs at super low heat. Works like a charm.
hmmm.. the birds didn’t have much fat on them to begin with but if I didn’t soak ’em I could hardly get near them the game was so strong.. hmmm thanx anyway
omg, my mouth is watering. *drool*
I was referring to the fat in venison. I’ve never dealt with game birds before, although I’ve heard marinating in buttermilk for a day will neutralize the taste.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm meat
The GG is my new hero. Take a page from her and eat a seal heart. I hear they’re finger lickin’ good. Not only is she beautiful but she supports true Canadians and not afraid to tell Europe to Fuck Off. Hip hip hurrah.
Not to mention she’s hardcore. Gut and eat raw seal heart in the north, fuck yeah!
Direct them to the lawn. chomp chomp.