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To the police officer who called me a savage (on Treaty Day of all days when we are supposed to be celebrating peace): SHAME ON YOU!
It was a great day up until then. F.U., I’m telling everybody.—NDN
This article appears in Sep 30 – Oct 6, 2010.
43 Comments
Did you report him? Please do.
WTF is Treaty Day?
That’s a pretty horrible thing to have happened ,if its true OP.
You did report this to someone besides this bitch page ,right ?
Can anyone rationally explain to me why we can have Treaty Day, Africville weekend at Seaview, or Gay Pride Parade…but if someone has a white persons day , or European Pride event…its seen as a power trip/ White Power insult to others ?
Why is it good for some ethnic groups & not ok for all ethnic groups ????
In my own experience it seems white ‘pride’ events are not about celebrating the Caucasian race & its accomplishments, but positioning white folks above others and then using that power position for oppression…
besides, aren’t we white people proud all the time, whether we should be or not?
Right on birdie. If the intention of White Pride events were simply to show their cultural pride then of course it would be okay.
I’ve been told before that every day is white man’s pride day, but I digress…. check out the Highland Games for a celebration of ‘white pride’, or thanksgiving anyone? Anyway, I’m sure there are more but there are more important things to dwell on.
it’s ‘world habitat day’ so say les simpsons
ok, so from someone on the outside looking in. and forgetting that someone with a status of Police officer should show restraint, and be more politically correct.
My question too you, what the hell was it you were doing, and how big of a shithead were you acting when you were “insulted”
What was it you said or did to provoke the officer to have to resort to namecalling
I hate bullshit like this!
Isn’t it a “Pride” of lions?
Roarrrr!
I’ve been to the Scottish highland games.
Seems to be more about “scotish’ than white europeans.
How can everyday be white persons day ?
Minority?
I dunno.
How are Scots not white? How white do you have to be to be called white?
Albino’s can’t be black sheep, but they can be somewhat transparent. Just saying?
Baaaa.
i’m a pasty white canadian of scottish descent…with a farmer tan. the bear is a bit swarthier being a canadian of russian jew/scottish descent, and we’re both heathens^^
What would we celebrate on white peoples day? I guess we could celebrate the fact that we have enslaved every race including our own with our consumer driven credit society. Yay, gold star on the white mans chart!!!!!
STEPHENHATER….You seem to be confusing the Bankers with white people in general .
I don’t know about the rest of you (except pasty white paingirl) but I’m sure not white, hell you put me in the sun all day I turn dark red, the next day I turn brown, & all summer long I get darker & darker.
I meantioned ‘white day’ as a question, could have used Asian or Chinese or Indian (as in the Citizens of India) day.
IT was a question of why do some people have these events ??? celebrations ??? get togethers ???
As far as I’m concerned we’re all red. I felt like that since I was little, in elementary school & the first black person I had ever met in my life, got cut on her hand & bled the same color blood I did…I still remember thinking her blood is the same colour as mine !
We all bleed the same, we all have the capacity to be in pain & suffer etc. But still there are those who like to celebrate or condem those who have a different skin pigment or heritage as if some how that is important…in the grand scheme of things I believe it holds us back .
… but are you white? … ’cause dude that’s ok. I’m cool with that, especially as you make salsa and take pictures.
What IS treaty day?
Treaty Day
Oh STFU More. Seriously.
Cultural celebrations are what’s holding us back? Really? Because I think what’s holding us back has a lot more to do with fucktards like yourself who like to wander into a perfectly valid bitch about someone being insulted with a racial slur by a law enforcement officer and begin your whine/rant/derailment about how hard done by straight white folks are because they don’t get a goddamn White Pride Festival. My favourite part is how you try to sum it up with some dime store pseudo-philosophy about how we all bleed red, yadda yadda, to show us how you’re a deep-thinker who became magically oblivious to race as a child. Yup, you’re a real fucking renaissance man, More. Now go crawl back under your bridge, douchebag.
thanks for the info miss maudey
Donkey , no I’m not white.
Meow, I’d tell you to take a long hard suck on my ass, but your already a turd eater & I see no reason to be nice to you, by giving you a treat.
I was born in a far northern clime & never even knew there were black people until I moved to Dartmouth NS & entered the school system, I had never seen anyone of any other race except Native Canadians until that time, who i closely resemble. I moved from up north when I was 6 in the early 60’s.
You said it… I never said “cultural celebrations” are what’s holding us back…its attitude, similar to your shitty attitude thats what is truely holding us back. I asked why is it that some people do it & others do not ?!?
It is proven by DNA evidence we are all from a common ancestor, yet still people hate each other based on skin color, place of birth, & religious affiliatiojn (or the lack there of)
THen there assholes like yourself who hate just for the sake of it.
The world will definately be a better place when you ,& judgemental asses like you, no longer inhabit it. So please if your feeling the least bit suicidal, those barriers on the bridge would be no problem for an active person ,so please take a leap for the good of the human gene pool .
Seriously think about , & enjoy the view
I think you should perhaps look at these month celebrations as not holding another race back/being unfair to another race, but as a giving an identity to the minority being celebrated.
More, I don’t hate you, I feel sorry for you.
“Can anyone rationally explain to me why we can have Treaty Day, Africville weekend at Seaview, or Gay Pride Parade”…”there are those who like to celebrate…those who have a different skin pigment or heritage as if some how that is important…in the grand scheme of things I believe it holds us back”
Direct quote from you, More. Nice try with the backpedalling though. In any case, there’s really no point in debating with you because your “arguments” are irrelevant personal anecdotes at best and tiresome, barely-coherent ramblings at worst. If you really need someone to explain to you why these celebrations occur, then you’re truly a lost cause anyway.
HOW ABOUT WE LUMP THEM ALTOGETHER, AND HAVE A HUGE DOUCHEBAG DAY.
Old, whiny, ignorant white guys, LS? Sure, why not. They could have a parade and everything….
Yeah cuz there’s no ignorant minorities, face it, it’s just guilt.
I belong to the group who celebrates Treaty Day. And to be honest, I don’t observe the day at all really. To me, TD celebrates the day the English Crown made it legal to kill Mi’Kmaqs on October 1, 1749. That part of the TD history is never mentioned oddly.
Oh wow
Someone had better hope that part of the treaty has been revoked. ^^
NGF…didn’t they also put a bounty on Natives as well ?
Meow…still waiting for a rational explaination…& your quoting me is out of context.
You left out ” BUT STILL there are thos…”
Which is me pointing out that people believe that because there is a slight variation in skin pigment or other racial feature, it should be celebrated ?
Why ?
Isn’t that a form of racism ?
I believe it is.
Can no one else see this as a form of intolerence ? I don’t believe singling out differences in us promotes equality…how can it ?
Its a blatent’ in your face ‘ display of “look at us we’re so special” The world is filled with groups of people who consider themselves as being ‘apart’ which is IMO why we are seeing so much sensless death & distruction.
If you’re incapable of grasping that, you’re the one I am feeling very sorry for, & you deserve it because you are one of the majority of those who are part of the problem & you can’t see it or even grasp that !
MORE:
I am with you, expressing difference is racism. That’s what I believe and that’s what I teach my children. Why do we “celebrate” difference when we can just celebrate. Why do I have to teach my kids that they are different, or that their friends or fellow students are different when I can simply teach them we are all human, the same, and you respect everyone. We are all unique, we are all special, but yet we are all the same.
I encourage pride, celebration and sharing of cultures, I encourage growing with an open mind and acceptance of others. But recognizing difference in any way, positive or negative can be racist. It’s not necessary really, just forget about difference, think about human kind.
“NGF…didn’t they also put a bounty on Natives as well?”
I *am* Native, More. And, yes, 10 guineas per head; man, woman or child and dead or alive.
Having all these months etc is probably an attempt to appease. I would rather there be no month labels. We all know the celebrations would continue regardless of the label. However, for the moment look at these things as not a way of excluding you, or disenfranchising you, but rather that it is for the people being celebrated. I do not believe it is racist to have such events. There is no prejudice happening, well from what I know. A lot of history in the past was not written into school books etc. This has changed and so these month things should probably be phased out.
Eh whatever.
NGF…I don’t remember being taught that in my history classes , which were mostly in Dartmouth from elementary to High school.
I’m not surprised they covered it up.
Do they teach the truth now NGF ?
I don’t know, More, I’m not a teacher. I could ask around. If I were a teacher I’d make sure it was part of my lesson plan and if the school board had an issue fuck ’em. What bugs me as a Nova Scotian is how the Acadians and their tragic history was crammed down my throat as a kid and teen in social studies (including the expulsion) but my ancestral history was all, “Indians were nomads who hunted and fished and lived in tipis. And whatever they got they had coming to them.” It’s the same cookie-cutter shit. My personal opinion is that Nova Scotians and Canadians should be taught the rightful history of this province and country and that people have a right to know it.
I was in high school 3 yrs ago … no they don’t teach it.
What was the curriculum like, Donkey? What was taught?
The problem with your argument, More, is that people are not celebrating a shared skin pigmentation. In fact, there is a wide range of skin pigmentation within all of the so-called races. Race is a sociopolitical construct anyway, which is what I assume you’ve been ineloquently and ineffectively driving at, but that is really beside the point. What people are celebrating, with things like Treaty Day or Africville weekend or Gay Pride Festival, is a shared cultural identity and heritage. There’s nothing divisive or exclusionary about it, no more than Lobster Fest or the Woodsman competition are divisive or exclusionary to people who aren’t lobster fisherman or woodsmen. There’s nothing offensive about people getting together to celebrate their common culture, and it goes without saying how important it is for cultures who have been historically marginalized and oppressed to feel like they have a presence worth celebrating within society.
… I do remember us spending an incredulous amount of time on the journey of the European people through to Montreal where they had their fur trade etc etc and the Louisbourg Fort and that whole hoopla + all those wars (this was sorta Jr. High). Then in high school moved into like French Revolution, Russia and all that. I can honestly say I do not remember receiving any significant black/brown/whatever history or Native American history other than the underground railroad stuff, and that these guys were here, yeah. Well I did have a teacher who tried to touch a bit on many different places and people, like South America etc. which was nice. I guess history is written by the victors … but a chapter in a book never really seemed fair to me.
I will say that there were 2 elective classes one was “Native Studies” and “Afro. Canadian Studies”. No one took those seriously and the the teachers were degenerates to say the least (a la gym teacher as a teacher … ). Those were the “bird” courses. Oh and God forbid we’d partake in any cultural celebration. We did a sitting circle (I’m not sure exactly what it’s called) with a few older Native people. Within’ 20 seconds after the ceremony “Why’d they have all that smoke blowing in my face, I shouldn’t have to be subjected to their traditions” but it was a high school kid …
i love celebrations of all sorts…even if you take an ib or advanced course in hellschool you might not get an appropriate instructor. i am being very kind when i say this…pumkin paddling in windsor this weekend, now that’s canadian. rooooo
Thanks, Donkey. The “blowing smoke” thing may have been a smudging/smudge ceremony. It’s usually burning sage and sweet grass and you wave it into yourself using your hands while the MC/shaman/shawoman will brush it towards you with eagle feathers. It’s a form of cleansing before any type of gathering.
I did event planning in Membertou a couple years back and before every event (community, a wedding, or something with media who have deadlines) the smudge took place before everything else.
When I was in high shcool we didn’t have African/Afro-Canadian Studies until the year after I graduated. We had Mi’Kmaq Studies but the teacher taught FT at another school so often he/she didn’t show to teach at our school. My community members took it b/c it was an easy A but some non-Native students took it as a genuine learning opportunity but didn’t have the chance to learn as much as they wanted. I do hear you on the ‘bird course’ aspect; the same could be said about the course style at my school back when. I never took the course though. If I wanted a bird course I took art, typing/keyboarding or drama lol.