Here’s the deal… Pitbull’s have a bad rep because some OWNER’s have f-ed the breed’s reputation because they trained them to be aggressive and some used them in dog fights. Lot’s of dogs snap and attack people; often from abuse. But media focuses on Pitbulls because it gets all the ratings. Look at that boy who was attacked by some terrier/lab mix dog, the boy was then saved by his cat. No one is sensationalizing that breed of dog, screaming “All crossed lab/terriers must be banned and killed!” No! Of course not because then all mixed breeds would be gone. Stop and look at the whole picture of a dog bite story before you judge a whole breed based on an isolated incident. —Elephants are gray, not all gray things are elephants
This article appears in Jul 24-30, 2014.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/victim-of-gruesome-pit-bull-attack-wants-dog-put-down-1.2716184
200 stitches to the victim and the “owners” argue not to euthanize the animal. Victim’s fault she got tore apart evidently.
Labs are bred to be excellent retrievers, it is not prejudice to consider them good retrievers.
Pit bulls were bred to be excellent at locking their jaws onto another animal and not letting go until the other animal dies. It is not prejudice to consider them good shitty-pet.
If you don’t like, then get breeding. Perhaps in a couple hundred generations you can change what the pitbull is known for.
Otherwise, get over it.
It is unfair to judge a whole breed based on “an isolated incident”. That said, I’d like to point out that Pitbull attacks are not to be considered isolated incidents since we hear about them regularly. The proof is in the numbers, as evidenced in this breakdown of dog attacks across different types of ‘incidents’ in both Canada and the US:
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistic…
Ban bad owners for bad pets and euthanize public threats, but don’t punish an entire breed. I’ve met a number of very good pitbulls. They were happy and I wasn’t threatened at all by any aggressive demeanor. My Husky is hyperactive and territorial, but we’ve trained her not to be so aggressive, but should we ban Siberian Huskies because there was an incident of a Husky biting a child and killing it? No.
Banning legislation has little to no discernible effect, just ask Ontario.
This crap again?! FFS – fuck off people!
“The proof is in the numbers”
That’s assuming that all or even most dog bites are even reported to begin with. Most pitbull bites WOULD be reported, since they all would likely require medical attention. Bites from other breeds, such as a poodle or chihuahua, could easily go unreported.
I don’t think pitbulls should be banned. But I do think people should be cautious. Not because they are a vicious breed, but simply because a single bite can do a LOT of damage and easily kill a small child. In my experience, it tends to be those little rat dogs that are the most vicious.
A lot of it has to do with the types of people that gravitate toward this breed. People that are ‘thugs’ or think they are, and want their dog to be a badass. I think they should ban people from owning dogs, not breeds themselves.
There are so many problems with the so called numbers. Countless bites are not recorded or reported, dogs involved in bites typically live outside, have no training, and have shitty owners in general, the media only sensationalizes bully breed bites, and bites that are recorded are often attributed to particular breeds by individuals who have no expertise in canine behaviour or breed recognition (often it is “oh I think it/it probably was a pitbull” turning into a pitbull code in a data set). Most anti-bully breed folks fail to accept the evidence that banning or restricting ownership of bully breeds has not been effective in curbing dog bites. My guess for why is that assholes that used to get bully breeds substitute to other macho looking dogs (shepherds, rotties). It should also be acknowledged that historically shepherds, rotties, and dobie’s were commonly seen as aggressive dogs that many wanted outlawed.
Also, on the history of the pit bull. Not always bred for fighting. Many lines of bully breeds were originally bred for hunting and farm work.
Here are the stats of bites by breed. And the “winners” are Sharpei/Labrador
Springer spaniel mix (2,209 bites with 264 fatalities) and Lab-St Bernard mix (1,110 bites and 104 fatalities). Pitbulls (pure and mixed) (68 bites and 7 fatalities).
Here is the link: There will be surprises.
http://www.dog-obedience-training-online.c…
“I wouldn’t bite anybody.” Signed, Wynnie the Whippet
Please, enough of this trying to rationalize an irrational choice of dog. Show common sense, it is all about breed – both in terms of temperament and capacity to inflict damage. Our neighbour had a very grouchy chihuahua but nobody ran from it. In the US the CDC did a study of dog related deaths. Guess what? Pittbulls by a landslide with only Rottweilers coming even close.
http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafe…
Maybe dog owners should be legally responsible for any injury their animals inflict. That would make them think twice as to what breeds they acquire.
HaliOOPs, you are (again) feeding into the stereotype. The article you posted has nothing to do with the breed, the owner of this dog was being physically bullied and picked on and her dog reacted in a defensive way, albeit aggressive. I’m not saying this was the victims fault, but I also don’t believe this animal poses a risk to the public based on this incident.
Euthanizing this dog does nothing but feed further into the bullshit stereotype and further perpetuate the problem. He should be placed with someone who has the patience to train him how to react in situations like these so it doesn’t happen again.
@poop — of course it’s not all about the breed. The dog must still be put down though.
Owning a pitbull is just one of those things that non dog owners think is retarded. So do dog owners. Hell even former pitbull owners admit – through their actions of filling the shelters with pitbulls – that it is retarded to own a pitbuhll.
Am I prejudice? Damn rights I am!
Haven’t we beaten this dead horse ’nuff already?
Yup, we beat this dead horse to re-death several times but, it doesn’t stop stupid people from mistaking myth from fact. Pitbulls do NOT have “locking jaws”. It is not a trait that is bred into them like “retrieving”. Idiot, get your FACTS straight.
*zombie horse ban*
Bloodletting is verb not a noun. When we talk about a locking jaw, it is a pseudo adverb that decribes the style of fighting that pitbulls were bred for.
Idiot, don’t interpret it as a reference to an actual locking jaw unless the context is changed.
No one has ever said that Pit Bulls are not potentially more dangerous or even actually more dangerous than other breeds. However, the media coverage is disproportionate to the actual public risk posed by pit bulls compared to other breeds.
Outright banning of pit bull breeds is also a disproportionate response to their actual level of harm, particularly in comparison to other products or activities that are considered both legal and socially acceptable. For example, guns, knives, ovens, cars, and pharmaceutical drugs cause far more harm than dogs do, and yet we do not outlaw these things en masse. Why? Well, for one, many people benefit from these things, and the aggregate of these benefits exceed the public harm. The same argument may apply to dog ownership and pit bull ownership in particular. I actually see the net benefit of a pit bull to be greater than that of a small dog, which typically barks all day and generally annoys other people. The pit bull has only a very small risk of hurting someone, and generally does not bark that much.
Also, the reason why pit bulls are found in so many rescues is because these rescues foster dogs that were placed on death row in Quebec as well as dogs confiscated under BSL in Ontario and other areas. Many of the death row dogs come from puppy mills and never experienced human companionship. That bullies are so prevalent in shelters is a very sad implication of our failure to regulate or severely restrict the mass pet-for-profit industry. I would surmise that a lot of dogs are also confiscated by the SPCA, not necessarily given up.
This elephant is brown:
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_…
your argument is invalid.
😛
I think pitbulls always get the bad wrap more-so because they’re huge and lean as fuck.
I wouldn’t be hurt nearly as much by a ferocious Pomeranian.
Well, unless it was this one:
http://www.nolasarina.com/wp-content/uploa…
RSVP
: The Shit-Eating Cretin (07/25, 8:10AM)
“Bloodletting” is not a verb but is a present participle used as a noun. It’s the same as “walking” as in “Walking is good for you.” In the same way, “locking jaw” is not a “pseudo adverb,” whatever that might mean. It is a noun (“jaw”) modified by a present participle (“locking”) and collectively used as a noun, as in “Bulldogs have a locking jaw.” It is something, a substantive, which bulldogs possess. You must study your grammar before making stupid grammatical mistakes.
Speaking of bulldogs, Winston Churchill once explained the tenacity of the British to the Nazi foreign minister Herr von Ribbentrop prior to the outbreak of hostilities in 1939. He said, “Do you know why the British bulldog has nostrils that lay flat against its face?” Ribbentrop did not know. “It is because, Herr Ribbentrop, that it can keep breathing after it has locked its jaws into the flesh of the bull.”
But I suppose you didn’t know that either.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Yep, you got me there. I didn’t know that. Get over it.
RSVP
: The Shit-Eating Cretin (8:25AM)
There’s obviously so much you don’t know but, as with yourself in general, there was nothing to “get over.”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Oh this whole argument again.. I’m my educated opinion terriers (in general) are the worst breeds of dogs for snapping and biting however because they are little dog breeds this isn’t reported as much and cause less damage to the animal/person.
Pit bulls are the German Shepard’s of this generation (when I was a kid it was all GS breeds and mixes that were considered dangerous) and this “trendy dangerous dog” has changed from other breeds in history.
Pit bulls are not the problem it is usually the owners however.. there can be medical issues, environmental ques, previous abuse the current owners don’t know about and many other things that can change a dogs behavior.
Here is a few key tips not to get bitten:
*When you get down to a dogs level try not to lean forward at all, keep your back straight.. this keeps you tall and harder to knock down, its also not getting into a dogs face so they feel more comfortable.
*Never ever break up a dog (or any other animal) fight even if your dog is the one being attacked. In this situation wither your own dog or a different dog could bite you because they are not paying attention to their surroundings.
*Always ask to pat a strange animal, ask if the animal has any sore spots your should avoid and before patting on the head or bum/tail region its good to ask if they are okay with those areas.
*When you allow a dog to smell you, which you should always do before patting them.. keep your fingers straight and pushed together and point them down to the ground so its not like your offering your hand up as if there were treats on it.
There are so many things we as people can do to prevent dog bites and I would have to say it most situations the dog, their owner and the person bitten all have a hand in why it happened. We can’t go blaming dogs, we are the humans and it is our responsibility to keep ourselves and ‘neighbors’ safe.
When i was young, the neighborhood pitbull attacked a buddy of mine. After clamping onto his arm, buddy decided ‘oh well, I’m already bloody” so he dragged the pitbull over to a power pole and rubbed his nose up and down on it until the dog let go of his arm. The experience cured that dog of his bully tendancies, whenever he saw my buddy, he would run away yelping.
Kids, if you read this. Don’t try it at home. It is only for the extremely gifted hard arse kids with more braun than brains.
agreed missj, i’ve never been bitten by a dog and i’m really old
Apropos of nothing in particular. Just a cute vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czhpQe-56qg
http://www.rense.com/general27/raised.htm
I’ve never been bitten by a dog, either, but I’ve been attacked and bitten by a cat. At a petting zoo when I was a kid. I was patting the cat, he was purring and all of a sudden BAM he latched onto my arm, ripped the skin on the underside to shreds with his back claws and bit through my hand.
I couldn’t move my hand for two weeks, was on antibiotics for a month and I had to have saline solution injected into the bite with a very VERY big needle. It sucked and I still have the scars.
Also, take a look at this you breedist motherfuckers:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/laraparker/this-ba…
nanny dogs
Just want to let a few folks know in case they haven’t clued in. Walking around with a pitbull or similarly aggressive looking dog is like driving a Hummer. You are viewed in a certain way and I don’t think it’s a good one.
Words like conspicuous consumption, ego, macho, etc. come to mind for all the look-at-me vehicles, dogs, etc.
Another issue is that many parents of small children are made very nervous by the presence of large unmuzzled dogs in parks, at beaches, etc. If that’s your goal, it’s working.
Keep those things in mind next time you are pciking a mutt.
Curiously, magoo, some of us don’t give two shits how the world sees us and we don’t make life choices based on the opinions of random strangers.
Fancy that.
Personally, I think we should be eating dogs … this would reduce the large breed population significantly as small breeds barely qualify as appetizers:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/23/opinion/sutt…
long pig for all my friends
Conspicuous consumption generally only applies to status goods. Pitbulls do not yield positive status, and so they do not apply. Conspicuous breed selection applies to owners of many purebred dogs, toy breeds, and specialty cross-breeds (doodles of all sorts). Doesn’t quite apply to the well intentioned folks who successfully re-home and rehabilitate labstaff/bully mixes, which are a dime a dozen these days.
Agreed, meowaLot.
So, Magoo, what does having a chihuahua say about you, or a poodle? Would you assume that a man who owns one of those to be effeminate?
I bet you go to church eeeeevry Sunday don’t you, you judgemental piece of shit?
trick question, SHITD. men don’t have chihuauas or poodles, their wives do.