To require a degree to get a job that pays 13 bucks an hour. Let us uneducated masses have those jobs! No one goes to university so they can rent cars or work in a customer service position in a call centre. You can have all the relevant experience in the world but because I didn’t go to school to study something completely unrelated to the job I can’t get an interview. It’s just silly. —If I Had a Degree I Wouldn’t Want to Work For You
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the problem is the “uneducated masses” all have degrees now.
So especially in halifax you ask for a degree for 13 bucks an hour, you are gonna get someone with a degree that thinks 13 bucks an hour is more than 0
Brandon, you said it buddy. OP, you haven’t realized this yet but someone with a 4 year degree IS a member of the uneducated masses. You have no hard skills (you think you do but you don’t) and you have no experience.
Look at the community college grads. Do you wonder why they’re landing 40K jobs on graduation and your’e stuck at a call center? Because their education TRAINED them to do what they’ll do when they graduate. You just learned a bunch of shit and now you have to start at the bottom learning to actually DO something.
hahaha! Silly, NOBODY graduates from university and starts anywhere but the bottom except the truly brilliant. Welcome to your first dose of the reality that you are not one of them.
Lie. A call centre isnt about to check into your degree.
nah, secretagent, it’s the truth. This happened to a friend of mine just the other day. He got a call about a customer service position in a call centre for a major telecom company. The phone interview was going great, until 15 minutes in he disclosed that he hadn’t finished his business admin course at NSCC. He had all kinds of relevant experience, but no diploma or degree so they wouldn’t take him. They were going to pay him 16 bucks an hour.
yeah, for fuck’s sake. you need a fucking doctorate just to pump gas for shit pay. guy told me the other day, that the place he applied to, wanted a college educated person. is that douchy or fucking what?
here we are in the spoed 21st. century, the age of every fucking thing almost online, and then then want shit like that for job that even steven harper could do. the real one that is.
i wish the fuck that i would have finished my terms at dal now. legal and child services. but no, i had to go get hitched, fuck off school, and support a family. i just wish i had it to do all over again, there would be major changes, believe me there.
EDUCATION & TRAINING
When will people learn that university degrees in the Humanities are not directly intended to get anyone a job? What one gets a degree in the Humanities is called an “education.”
To go to university to get a job is not to get an education but to get training for that job. These faculties are not in the Humanities but in practical matters like Business Administration and the like. There is nothing wrong with this, but it’s not a university degree in the Humanities.
Bottom line: It all depends on the faculty you’re in. Don’t criticize the faculties in the Humanities for not getting you a job. That is not their purpose. Don’t criticize a camel for not being a horse. You want a job? Get the appropriate training in university or elsewhere.
Now, go pump some gas.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
That’s not the point of the bitch Moman.. but thanks
The real problem is teachers/counselors in high school giving students a candy-assed view of the world.
Really MM? Twelve letters after your name and you couldn’t post anything relevant, just the same “education-vs-training” tripe. Get a new crusade!!
Monsieur does have a new crusade, as a climate change denier. I’d still keep your Wellies handy though.
I think what montrealman wrote was very relevant. He’s just a very deep thinker and it’s manifested in his posts. Take your time reading his words.
OB: you don’t deserve $13.00 an hour. McDonald’s is always hiring and don’t worry about doing any math since the POS and cash register does all the Math for you.
Anybody catch the picture of Justin “The Boy King” Trudeau on the cover of M***o this morning? he appears to be demonstrating that he is uniquely qualified to lead the country; apparently he can perform a hummer and a tug job at the same time.
eats_crayons said: “NOBODY graduates from university and starts anywhere but the bottom except the truly brilliant. Welcome to your first dose of the reality that you are not one of them.”
yayyyy i’m the truly brilliant.
I thought it choir practice Unkie Ivan 😉
I think the point OP is trying to make is that ,all these so called educated people ,are taking jobs from uneducated people,not that they care about doing that,because they have just as much right to them,they just dont think about that.
Seriously ,have you ever heard a college student say “I shouldnt take that job from that poor uneducated guy or girl ,they need it more than me” .Most poke fun at them or look down on them (just read the comments that are on here constantly),that is until they are doing it themselves after graduation.Hopefully for their sake ,they dont continue flipping burgers ,cleaning toilets ,pumping gas etc… when they get their BA’s in philosophy,education ,poly-sci etc….
Remember Education is what you’re left with after you’ve forgotten everything..
Heh heh Rosie. I could probably turn that into some sort of scurrilous accusation about shenanigans in the Church of Rome, but really, those poor folks have suffered enough. >; )
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: tommy jules (06/14, 5:35PM)
Good morning Tommy. Well, as you say the point of the bitch is not directly about the education/training distinction – it’s obviously about those with degrees taking job away from the unlettered lower orders and all that. But Tommy, look at OP’s initial (ungrammatical) statement: “To require a degree to get a job that pays 13 bucks an hour.” You see, Tommy, while it is not explicitly asserted, the sentence PRESUPPOSES a connection between a degree and a job. It was in relation to this presupposition that I directed my remarks. You do see that, don’t you Tommy? Write back if you have difficulty.
: SwampDonkey (6:43PM)
You wouldn’t have any evidence for that assertion by any chance would you, Donkey?
: Stephen Harper (8:35PM)
That’s THIRTEEN letters, Stephen. But, of course, my reply WAS relevant. See my rejoinder to Tommy above.
: troondon formosus (9:14PM)
Well, Troon, it’s not a crusade so much but rather an attempt to instill some balance into the anthropocentric global warming (AGW) debate. As I recall you were one of the zealots (along with the late but unlamented Commandante Esposito who unfortunately imploded into some sort of religious black hole) who jumped on Ian Plime (and me) some time ago so it looks like you were (are?) one of them. By the way, does part of your pseudonym – “formosus” – refer to the old name of Taiwan, i.e., Formosa? Are you Chinese and living in the Annapolis Valley? Have you experienced any untoward interactions with the locals?
: Holden Mccrotch (06/15, 9:51AM)
I think the proper form of the epigram is: “Education is what remains after you’ve forgotten everything you were taught.” It rings a bell. Was it Einstein? Anyway, in your rendering, it is incoherent. But it does contain a very interesting philosophical point. Any idea what it might be, McCrotch? Take your time. Think it over.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
POSTSCRIPT
: Biscuit (06/14, 9:45PM)
I had you on my RSVP list and unaccountably overlooked you. My sincere apologies. I want you to come up now and take your rightful place at the front of the class. Congratulations!
: Correction – 1st. paragraph, line 3: “jobs” for “job”.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
I LOVE you montrealman! LOLOL! Wonderful replies!
Re: Commandante Esposito. Popular mythology says that when Herr Harper got his majority, the heroic Commandante retreated to the fastness of Portland Hills (which he then renamed the Sierra Maestre) with a handful of devoted followers to carry on La Resistance. It is said, that on moonless foggy nights you can hear his sprectral voice chanting “HAY HAY, HO HO; C-38 HAS GOT TO GO.” Sadly, the truth is more prosaic. He has spent the last 11 months incarcerated on Melville Island, which was reopened by Justice Minister Vic Toews to serve as an extra-judicial prison where political subversives may be held without trial. Canada’s Gitmo, if you will. Having a soft spot for the old Stinko-Pinko, I attempted to smuggle him a hacksaw baked in a bag of El Cucaracha brand nachos; but he refused it on the grounds that he was not a member of the Prison Maintenance & Trusties Local 208 and therefore refused to perform “scab labour”.
Such devotion to his ideals. It fairly makes one weep with humility.
“Hasta la Victoria, Siempre, Commandante”
mister meaty’s got a little biscuit in him…
or is it the other way around.
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: Mister Meaty (06/15, 11:05AM)
Why thank you Meaty. As it happens I share your feelings. I want you to know that there’s always room at the front of the class next to Biscuit so do keep that in mind in your future posts. (Don’t be put out of countenance by Firerageszzz who I have long since dismissed as a half-wit.)
: Admiral Ivan (11:25AM)
So that’s where Commandante Esposito is. It’s good to see that Melville Island is being restored to its historic function. Perhaps he will join the deceased American soldiers from the War of 1812 in the old graveyard. (I am quite familiar with Melville Island having paddled over there in my canoe from the Waegwoltic Club on frequent occasions. However, this would have been before the Commandante’s incarceration.)
I might add that, in addition to the debate on AGW where he teamed up with Troon to viciously attack the veracity of the views of the Australian climate scientist Ian Plime, he also teamed up with The Psycho in attacking my credibility regarding the legitimacy of my page reference in Darwin’s “The Voyage of the Beagle” to illustrate the theory of perception I was advancing at the time. Can you imagine? But I’ll say no more on that score since, if he reads this, The Psycho will simply launch another vitriolic but empty attack on my credibility. The fool.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Who wants to bet that Meaty and Moman are the same person. IP check Bird?
those degrees are a bit more helpful a few yrs down the road when you apply for management in the company you start with…but In the Maritimes, the NSCC and other such schools are providing more specific and helpful training for getting that good initial starting wage. Not like when I was getting out of High School…back then community college was where all the people went that couldnt get into University or didnt have the $$ or motivation to apply for university, and there were only a few programs like mechanic, refridgeration, and a couple others…just trades really…I agree with some of the other posters …Had I known I would be back in the maritimes and they had the programs then that they do now, I would definitely have bypassed University for NSCC…
Monsieur, it’s Ian Plimer not Plime and he’s a geologist not a climate scientist. As well, he sits on the board of four Australian mining companies. I believe we’ve been over this already.
As well, my handle has nothing to do with Formosa and I’m not Chinese. Although, come to think of it I’ve been known to Taiwan on. hehehe
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: Tommy Jules (06/15, 6:34PM)
Good morning Tommy. Well no, Miss Meaty and I are not the same person. No offense to Miss Meaty, of course, but I’m rather disappointed that you are not able to distinguish, in both style and substance, the quality of our respective posts. On the other hand, maybe you were still smarting over my spanking at 10:45AM. Don’t worry Tommy, time cures all hurts.
: shaker s42 (8:16PM)
I’m glad you used the word “training,” shaker. By the way, did you take that “refridgeration” program back in community college?
: troondon formosus (10:33PM)
I believe I mis-transcribed Ian Plimer’s name from my card index files (Card #37, Book #44, Year- 2009) where it is incorrectly written “Plime”. I’ll make the necessary correction now… There, I just did! And yes, he’s a geologist and not a climate scientist as I wrote but I was doing so only from memory but it’s a distinction that really doesn’t distinguish.
And yes Troon, we have been over his case before when you teamed up with the unlamented Commandante Esposito to insinuate that he, Plimer, was in the pay of the Australian mining interests but you never demonstrated, only assumed, that this was the case. I realize that this is going to be difficult for you to understand Troon, but one can still have integrity in one’s theoretical understanding of global warming even under these circumstances. “Following the money” does not necessarily lead to the truth unless it is demonstrated to be so. You do understand that, don’t you Troon?
(10:49PM)
Not bad Troon. Not good, but not bad. Don’t forget to give my best to the Chinese community in the Annapolis Valley.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Poor Smeagol 🙁
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I’m honoured, montrealman! Thank you. (15/06, 11:04 a.m.)
Chewbacca is a Wookie. Ladies and gentlemen, this does not make sense!
OOH Troody, I am in such great love with your puns!! They are my favorite types of humor. You remind me of a sweet old man who wears suits to the grocery store.
Sorry Mel, I only wear suits to funerals and weddings. I have been known to go to the grocery store though!