Not sure if this is true or not, but when you pay with your credit card at a restaurant and leave the “customer” copy with a tip amount on it and take the “restaurant” copy, the restaurant cannot legally charge you the tip. Woohoo…I hope this is true. I will begin trying it out. Skip The Tip! Make the Boss pay out.
—SkipTheTip
This article appears in Jan 28 – Feb 3, 2010.
1. It sounds unlikely.
2. You are an asshole.
How about if you really don’t want to tip…then don’t. I think that’s kinda sleezy giving a tip only to take the wrong receipt so they can’t charge you the tip. That’s not so nice.
reservoir dog.
if you dont want to leave a tip DONT LEAVE A TIP!
Why act like a fucking douche?
New tag>>>> LAME, Don’t waste time reading….
Any pub/restaurant I’ve ever been in always makes sure they get the proper copy.
I think they can charge you for the tip but you can contest it if you want….maybe not if you sign the customer copy as well. Usually the difference is whether or not the card numbers are blanked out on the copy. I sometimes leave the customer copy when it is the only copy with the card number excluded.
If anyone in the industry has the answer I’d like to hear it. Why do they have “customer” and “merchant” copies?
OP: You’re a giant douche and I’m betting your mommy and daddy still pay for dinner when you go out anyway.
Technically speaking, if you do take the merchant copy, they’ve got no proof that you signed for it, therefore you can dispute the entire charge. It’ll take you a few months, and you’d better hope they don’t keep an electronic copy of your bill…
All the same, it’s a dick move.
Not true…..
A credit card purchase in a restaurant is a pre-authorized transaction. When you give them your credit card they open the transaction. After you sign they enter your tip amount or ZERO if that is your choice, and close the transaction.
If you don’t want to leave a tip then eat at McDonalds or move to another country where tiping is not the custom.
In Canada the lower income is offset by the tip….In a country like New Zealand for example….They don’t tip in New Zealand but you pay more for your service as the minimum wage is higher (A typical beer costs $7.00 in NZ as you don’t tip there).
This is just the way we do things in Canada so don’t be an asshole and deprive our hard working Canadians out of there income, some of us have mouths to feed at home….YOU ASSHOLE.
So, it doesn’t matter if you keep the merchant copy if you add the tip and sign it?
Back in the days when I used to bartend, people would try to skip out on the tab by not signing the merchant copy. At the end of the night, whoever was doing the deposit would just write “signature on file” on the merchant copy and carbon imprints, and voila.
Don’t know if you could get away with *that* now, but considering they can take payments over the phone, or cyberspace, I don’t think it matters if the merchants even have a copy…
If you didn’t sign it and left (even with both copies)
Technically the transaction is left open as when you give your credit card to the waiter/waitress, They open a Pre-Authorized transaction…..
If you split without signing the transaction is left open. It is a stupid thing to do really as at the end of the business day it is still open and anyone else (other then your waiter/waitress) could add a huge tip and close it out…..You never know who is disguntled and about to skip town…
1. No, it’s not true
2. You’re a douchebag.
And ytzpilot, I hope you tip every other minimum wage slave out there if you’re going to use “depriving hard working Canadians” as an argument for giving gratuities.
I do tip a lot….That is my Habit. I do work for tips for a living and we tend to tip more as we know what it’s like to be stiffed on a tip. It is our way of giving back to each other as our incomes are dependant on it.
I’ve never met a service provider that works for tips that wasn’t a good tipper.
The OB must be a complete moron if he thinks that would work. Do you think credit card companies are that stupid to have a gap like that in the process to get ripped off? The OB must think he.she has come up with an original thought/scheme.
To Miles…
there are numerous reasons for merchant copies. most are for auditing/tax purposes. companies have different policies regarding the length of time these are kept but the company i work for requests that every visa, mc and amex slip gets sent to the accounting department each week. debits slips generally remain on site in file storage for some reason. we keep debit slips for six months and then contract a shredding company to come and take care of them. btw, the shredding process is awesome. retail (drug retail in my case) take huge steps to ensure the safety of identies. getting off track now.
the other reason to keep the merchant copy is to balance the daily sales. most retailers (eateries included) can take in over $10,000 in non tenders (anything not cash, cheque or money order) in the run of a day. and they all have their own rules of how that has to be accounted for. the most common way is to take all merchant copies of credit card and debit slips and sort them out, total them up, bundle them together and file them appropriately. that’s the easiest and best way to keep the books balanced on a daily basis.
I bet buddy has a ‘system’ for winning at the casino as well. What a fucking moron.
easy as fuck, just pay the bill, and walk away. some places have tips built into the price already.
No tipping in Australia either, where minimum wage is also much higher, but beer is still cheaper! Food in restaurants is maybe a few dollars more expensive, though, but generally better quality than your average restaurant here. Ohh, and waaayyy better coffee! They don’t know how to make proper donuts for shit, though, and you really can’t beat Canadian bacon.
Mr. Fucking Pink as it were.
ytzpilot, I doubt your life’s ambition is to be a waitress… if you don’t like the wage then find some other meaningless job to fill your life.
You tip at macdonalds? Tims? they certainly put more effort into service than a bartender. Even a monkey high on ether can turn around, open a beer, and give it to you.
you tip at the movies, even though their margin on… EVERTHING is well over 100%… though the poor teen gets crap and shovels popcorn for months on end…
you tip the poor retailers that help with you trying on everything in the store and leaving with nothing because you’re feeling fat and bloated today and shouldn’t really be shopping anyways….
yeah… thought so.
Selective tipping…. though you think you’re a much better person than we are….
good on ya.
ytzpilot- as much as I believe the OP is an idiot I want to say this. I ahve had terrible service and not tipped. The difference is that I am upfront about it and I have the balls to tell the waiter/waitress/bartender why I am not tipping. What pisses me off are people who EXPECT a tip regardless of the ‘service’ they provided. A tip used to be “Earned” and is now “Expected” and I believe that this is how things went astray. The other thing that pisses me off is the fact that people in the industry claim to Rev Canada about 20% of what they actually bring in tips. You can whine about the minimum wage all you want, but the fact is that if you are a server in a busy establishment you stand to make 6-800 bucks a week TAX FREE.
what a fucking twat.
Last I will say about this……
zZz – I am neither a waiter/waitress or bartender. I am not disclosing my career on here but just pointing out other career’s you missed that people tip…..Taxi Driver, Hairstylist, Massage Therapist, Esthetician, Casino Dealer’s to name a few. Most of these require a trade certificate and make a descent yearly salary and good tips. There is more to the service industry then just servers.
I agree Bobby33…If your service was shit. Don’t tip. That sends a immediate message to the service provider.
thank fuck… I’ve had enough of your inane blathering on this subject.
Tip if you want to… not because of anything else.
don’t just automatically tip for people doing what they should be doing.
I’ve been working in the service industry since I was 16. Waiting tables, bartending.. I’m okay with the fact that not everybody is going to tip. I still want the costumer to have a good experience, maybe a little friendly conversation instead, whatever. But it annoys me when a large table will come in, making ridiculous demands, asking for substitutions, asking this and that be brought out at the exact same time, I smile and trot back to basically beg the already pissed-off-in-general kitchen staff to do these outrageous requests, then.. no tip. I get it if I just bring you a sandwich and drink, under 20 bucks, no tip, don’t blame ya. But c’mon.. if you want some A-list treatment, then be willing to spend a little extra, that’s the way the world works.
And I agree with everyone else. OB: you’re an asshole.
Be sure and try this when you are on a hot date with that special someone, then explain the “fast one” you just pulled back there. LAID fer sure my friend!
p.s. you are a douchee douche from doucheville
Yeah jonno. What a stupid smelly fucking twat.