I’m so sick of the few times that you actually have a meaningful discussion on the internet, and the other person has to concede your points or has no rebuttal. What is the go to move? Attack the grammar!. your you’re , “” Capital letters. When people have absolutely nothing of value to add they attack grammar. It’s like the donkey covering it’s ears and going EEEE ONNNNN. The point of the written word is to convey thoughts by print. In an informal setting such as this i don’t care if you make every other letter a batman symbol as long as i can understand what you are saying that is what matters. —Say something of value or nothing at all
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Of course we attack grammar, they used sarin gas on Websters Dictionary.
If we don’t fight the bad grammar over there, it’ll get us over here.
“NO BLOOD FOR COMMAS!”
“All we are saying – is give stream of consciousness a chance”
“HAY HAY MONSIEUR ROGET – HOW MANY ARGUMENTS DID YOU INVALIDATE TODAY”
but it actually HURTS to read some of that. it’s painful.
Where’s your grammar? In the kitchen baking cookies.*
*Joke was meant in the spirit of equality. It could have been grandpa in the kitchen baking cookies but it didn’t work as well given the specific topic at hand.
Still, pretty funny joke though eh?
Just wait until the Punctuation Police see your bitch, then you’ll be in real trouble
Meaningful discussion on the internet?
Yes, and irrespective of solid arguments, grammar rules need to be followed. It allows the reader greater understanding and comprehension.
I would further suggest that if you make every other letter a batman symbol, no one would be able to understand what was being written (not said), including you…
In a debate, I reserve all rights to point out your illiteracy and lack of education. Bring on the swear jar!
THE MIRROR OF THE MIND
“When people have absolutely nothing of value to add they attack grammar.” Say something of value or nothing at all
As the face is said to be the mirror of the soul, so grammar is the mirror of the mind. Sloppy grammatical usage mirrors a sloppy mind. By definition, a sloppy mind has nothing of value to say. Sloppy grammatical usage is like having BO. While offensive to others, the person afflicted is the last to know.
This is true in the case of the present poster. Working backward, since he has had nothing of value to say, one can conclude that this mirrors the fact that he has a sloppy mind. It works both ways. It’s like an algorithm. One can say that the present poster therefore has intellectual BO.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Guys, my English is my fourth foreign language I speak. ‘Grammar police’ is the reason why I don’t write here and in the internet at all. Maybe, it will take more time to learn English without active using, but at least I will avoid close-minded people.
What`s important is the message not the grammatical mistakes.
You joined an informal discussion on the internet, it`s not like your writing a dissertation or sompin important like a comic book or something like that, jeesh. Peoples gotta be chillin.
Eheheh
In an arena (the internet) where context and nuance, usually communicated through facial expressions, tone of voice, body language, etc. are absent – grammar, punctuation and spelling take on an added import. Not to mention, the importance of accuracy – in any medium. After all, only a few lonely and disturbed fetishists would have paid good money to see “Hairy Porter and the Ordure of the Phoenix”, right?
So, if written English is not something that you have a great command of, yet, try emphasizing that fact at the beginning of your argument and you may find people a little less “close-minded” than you assume they will be.
Unless, of course, you’re talking utter rot – in which case, its Big Boys Game – Big Boys Rules.
let’s eat gramma!
let’s eat, gramma!
gramma agrees punctuation is critical. and yes, if you are ESL then by all means mention it. that’s a different situation.
the message is important yes, but if some scruffy, lice-ridden, smelly person comes up to you touting a wonderful soap would you buy it?
http://www.davidmcelroy.org/wp-content/upl…
FORM & CONTENT
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WHATACROCK (09/16, 1:46PM): “What’s important is the message not the grammatical mistakes.”
Form and content are inseparable. While form, here understood as “grammar,” constitutes the rudiments of style and style is an essential ingredient in literate (artistic?) written expression content, here understood as the “message,” can only be the product, however minimally, of reflection. If one is empty, then so is the other. To maintain that this is so is not, contra the_one (9:59PM), to have a “closed mind” but rather is to possess a structured and disciplined mind both of which are alien concepts to those who maintain that it is only the message and not the grammatical mistakes which is important.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Even when forewarned of one’s trouble with usage of proper grammar, some people become assholes and simply get off on making others feel stupid.
So true Boru.
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FORM & CONTENT (II)
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WHATACROCK (09/16, 11:40AM)
Well, some people may indeed become assholes and get off on making others feel stupid but I’m not one of them. The point I was making was theoretical, i.e., that in full communication both form and content are inextricably related. But what do I mean by “full communication?”
Where the message, i.e., the content of the communication, is just information as in the assertion: “It is now 1:56PM in Montreal or 2:56PM in Halifax.” But this is to reduce the message (the content) of the communication to a boring one-dimensional information exchange, one devoid of any structured and sustained reflection and, by extension, one devoid of discernible form which I take take to be the point of the posts and comments on Bitch.
So, where form (grammar, style, etc.) follows content (the message), one would hope for more than just a one-dimensional information exchange. Indeed, your claim that I have become an asshole and simply get off on making others feel stupid minimally fulfills the criteria of meaningful communication since it goes beyond one-dimensional information exchange but, sadly, you have not supported your claim with reflection i.e., reasons why you believe this to be so. The result is that your claim fails to embody that happy marriage of form and content which, ideally, should characterize all communications on this site. I hope you will not feel stupid on reading this but then, hey, if the shoe fits.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!