Filtering by one’s preferences, sperm banks have far less options for progressive-minded people than one would expect, fewer options even than for the narrower minded types. The way I see it: mixed babies are generally cuter than either of their parents – lets face it right? Also with global warming and the destruction of the ozone pigment is simply good, and you’re less likely to increase the recessive pool that goes along with plucking from similar founder populations (seems like every other donor is Irish – so am I, is that my long lost cousin’s sperm? I’d rather not find out the hard way). I also figure, lots of lesbian couples AND gay men with baby-mommas would LOVE a gay man’s sperm (like dissolves like, they’d all be Vogueing in the uterus for 9 months: AWESOME – ok, not such a scientific theory). Perhaps a gay man less interested in kids would like the idea that their swimmers were going to: more likely a financially stable home (by virtue of assisted reproduction – unfair but a fact), increased chances of being a gay couple – therefore forced into self advocacy and a strong sense of self, therefore, increased chances of being a progressive thinker. Being out on ones profile would possibly keep the sperm out of Georgia and the Babptist church etc…they can keep the recessive traits. So with all those advantages, wouldn’t that be a neat kid knocking on your door at 18 years old (if you checked that box: “identity disclosure”, you don’t have to). I’m a straight girl from a queer family and thought about the donor route. Things have changed since but I now want to recruit some rainbow in every sense of the word, any bank would give you the info…it’s more fun than donating blood 😉

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/parenting/the-7-habits-of-highly-effective-lesbian-families/article1358105/?page=all

—progresSIEVE

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  1. “mixed babies are generally cuter than either of their parents – lets face it right?” = that’s your opinion. But you probably have no idea why that makes your statement inadmissible

    “with global warming and the destruction of the ozone pigment is simply good” = when there’s no ozone pigment will have zero effect on the ionizing radiation that’s bathing your skin and literally pulling apart the atoms in your body

    “less likely to increase the recessive pool that goes along with plucking from similar founder populations” = know anything about genes? cause if you did you’d realize that you have to be incredibly closely related to someone, like within 4 or 5 generations, to experience a lack of genetic diversity

    hopefully any “progressive-minded” gay couple will realize that it’s not better to raise a gay child… or a straight child. Its. a. fucking. child. STOP BRINGING THEM INTO YOUR GOD DAMNED DEBATES! THEY DON”T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR SEXUAL PREFERENCE/RELIGION/POLITICS/CREATIONISM/FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS!

    “So with all those advantages” – go fuck your self righteous ass!

    fool, Fool, FOOL!

  2. Best case scenario – Amanda Bynes has a rubber room with wi-fi access.

    Worst Case Scenario – Some Young NDP-er is gunning for Trevor Zinck’s job.

  3. This isn’t designer jewelry, OP – these are children you’re talking about, not flavours of the month, you vacuous twit.

    This post made me want to projectile vomit at a rainbow flag.

  4. ha ha “righteous ass” just contrast the tone between the post and respondent, pretty clear where righteous lies.

    Actually, it’s a pretty common opinion held my many that mixed babies just tend to be gorgeous ‘Fool’. Maybe not more gorgeous, just have the odds stacked that they’ll be cute, cute kids.

    In the meantime, as the globe warms or stays the same or goes backwards…it simply doesn’t matter: a fair haired blue-eyed, Irish-skinned lad is more likely to wind up with a melanoma or any other skin cancer AND skin ageing signs than any person of colour or of 1/2 colour or of 1/16th colour – that’s a fact. Another fact: you are more likely to pair recessive traits when pairing from similar populations (really, science 101), “4-5 generations” not the point. Two white Northern Europeans will more likely wind up with a kid with ie. hemochromatosis, cystic fibrosis… among others than with a mixed ethnicity gene pool. The point was that these donors are anonymous, who knows if it is someone’s cousin theyr’e about to be impregnated by?! so decrease the chances – why not?!

    “hopefully any “progressive-minded” gay couple will realize that it’s not better to raise a gay child… or a straight child. Its. a. fucking. child. ”
    umm…duh there was no mention of anything to the contrary, there was no mention of the CHILD’s orientation. FYI however, there is growing evidence that children of gay couples tend to be high achievers, see the link at the bottom of the article.

    Agreed: “first world” but it’s not a problem. The point is, expanding options is a good idea, especially given that many gay couples use sperm banks – as do ethnic minorities. For ethnicities that would like ‘similar’ features to their partner/husband, there are predominantly Northern European options in sperm banks, so, a gay man of colour would be giving these couples more options than the only 2 ie. indian donors that exist for example.

    “Fool” fear not progress, fear not little one, little pea, little scared fool, such an angry, angry scared little fool. All together now: Om shanti om

  5. as a future baby momma of a mixed kid, I appreciate your style op and I totally understand what you’re.. trying to say (at least what I think you’re trying to say)

    I think you’ve come far enough in the logical leaps required here to realize that in order for gay couples to produce children, SOME sort of donation is involved. So.. ok. Good job. But why does the donor have to be gay? How about choosing a donor based on the personality and physicality that works with what you’re looking for and let nature do the rest?

    Gay couples can have a straight donor. Just so you’re aware. It’s not like some sort of epic genetic mismatch is going to happen. So don’t discriminate against the breeders. You’re looking to breed after all.

    I’m no evolutionary biologist so take what I say with a grain of salt but I don’t think that having a gay donor is more or less likely to make the offspring gay or straight. I think a lot of factors are involved, most mysterious, in producing a child who is gay.

    And op.. you’ll love him/her regardless of his/her sexual orientation…. RIGHT?

  6. Kudos GreatBatshit!
    The point of the post isn’t for gay donors to go to gay families to have gay children, it says that nowhere. The point is that generally, gay men, in particular gay men of colour should donate… to ALL families. There’s no mention of the orientation of children – I think people are reading into this and projecting their own issues too much. Gay men have sperm to give, come from a community that most likely makes use of sperm banks more than other communities (charity starts…home…whatnot), men of colour can enrich the options for people of all colours, creeds and sexual orientation. Nobody gives a fuck what orientation the kids are…how that keeps creeping into these posts….

  7. It’s either about how being a “progressive” allows you to make the most absurdly shallow generalizations about others, or a P.S.A. about how “Friends don’t let friends blog while on bath salts”
    Memo to OP: If we can’t see your zoomers bouncing up and down, then stream of consciousness isn’t “cutesy”; it’s simply incoherent.

  8. Kitty and HARPER. Let’s get together and smoke a big fat joint. Then we will understand. Joint as in a marijuaniti schickt. Hloir fuvk i’m stoned rihhgt noww!

  9. Please tell me why beautiful people are better than not beautiful people? Please, go ahead. We’re all waiting for your grand revelations. A progressive minded person would realize the fundamentally superficial standpoint to your argument.

    If you knew anything about genes you’d realize that the colour of ones skin has little to do with the rest of their genetic make-up. If I have green eyes, and someone from Zimbabwe has green eyes, there’s a good chance they those green eyes are caused by the EXACT SAME GENOME! The 4-5 generation separation IS the point. Do you think everyone here is just straight up Irish/White european? FYI: Everyone who’s white isn’t from the same place!

    “a fair haired blue-eyed, Irish-skinned lad is more likely to wind up with a melanoma or any other skin cancer AND skin ageing signs than any person of colour or of 1/2 colour or of 1/16th colour – that’s a fact.” – link some information or studies or a journal that support this statement. This sounds like you blowing hot air out your ignorant ass

    ” fear not progress, fear not little one, little pea, little scared fool, such an angry, angry scared little fool.” – Yeah, I’m angry and scared. Angry because you’re touting your small minded opinions as fact, and scared because I know you’re not the only imbecile on the planet.

    “Science 101” – As if! Define ‘Science’. Do it. I’d like to hear what you actually think Science means. Hint: It’s got nothing to do with facts.

  10. Whether mixed raced babies are cuter is totally subjective IMO. That said, we can’t have enough mixing of the races to me. The more we can cross racial and cultural barriers with some commonality (in this case children) the more we dilute our differences.
    The climate change angle was insane however OP as some areas are likely to become a lot colder in the future. Especially places in close proximity to major ice shield melts.

  11. Examples of the “recessive traits” common to the state of Georgia:
    Conrad Aiken, poet. Erskine Caldwell, writer. Ossie Davis, actor. James Longstreet, Confederate General. Dean Rusk, diplomat. Jimmy Carter, Ex-President. Ray Charles, entertainer. Oliver Hardy, comedian. Amy Grant, singer. Lawrence Fishburne, actor. General Lucius D. Clay, American Sector Commandant during Berlin Airlift. Carson McCullers, author. Johnny Mercer, songwriter. James Dickey, author. Gladys Knight, singer. Harry James, trumpeter. Stacy Keach, actor. Bobby Jones, pro-golfer, Jasper Johns, artist. Otis Redding, singer. Jackie Robinson, baseball player. Joanne Woodward, actress. Alice Walker, author. Clarence Thomas, jurist…
    ….not to forget two men who left an indelible mark upon the 60’s – Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. AND DeForest Kelly.

    You do see the point I’m trying to make here, doncha sweetie?

  12. well op, i can only assume that’s what you meant considering you have such tight criteria on what makes a person worthy.

    Pardon me for misunderstanding that sexual orientation is not one of them. That’s good. Interracial mixing is great, don’t get me wrong. But there is also nothing wrong with less mixing either. Nor is there anything wrong with someone who isn’t “beautiful” – whatever the fuck that means.

    I encourage INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED, MOTIVATED people to donate their sperm too. Because, believe it or not, some women want SMART kids.

  13. A SUPPRESSED HOMOPHOBIC RACIST?

    “Gay men of colour, give up your guys.”

    Why does “progresSIEVE” claim that gay men give up their guys? Why should they give up the satisfactions of sodomy, the fleshly delights of real-time anal intercourse, all to jerk off in a jar? I find this to be an instance of an outrageous, albeit suppressed, homophobia.

    And why does “progresSIEVE” limit the selection of sperm donors to men of colour? Does she reject the noble concept of negritude, that distinctly worthy culture of rhythm and blues ? Does she want it to be dissolved in some bubbling pool of Caucasian blandness? I find this also to be little more than an instance of an outrageous, albeit suppressed, racism.

    For shame progresSIEVE, for shame!

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  14. I think that progresSEIVE is in dire need of a bare-bottom spanking, nay, indeed, a pants-down whipping delivered by our resident Professor Emeticus of the Disciplinary Arts.
    Have at her, MM, and Godspeed.

  15. so the Dove ad is good ,because it doesnt make one better over the other .you think youre being edgy or enlightened by makign mixed bettre than single race .youre a fucking dumbas s OP .

    and why exahctly should it be gays givin g sperm ?you DO KNOW that sexual oreintatoin is not genetic, right ?i bet you and friends think youre all very progressive ,but to anyone over the age of 20youre just a stupid fuckign ass .

    quote me on that .

  16. RSVP

    “I’m a straight girl from a queer family…” (progresSIEVE)

    : Cranky Old Ivan (08/13, 3:13PM)

    I think you’re on to something, Ivan. progresSIEVE has indicated that she is a straight girl from a queer family and this might provide some psychological insight into her homophobia. However, while I totally agree with the panties-down spanking, I do think that the “whipping” part a bit excessive. The object is to re-direct her homophobia, to tap into what is clearly her vigorous but thwarted heterosexuality.

    To this end, I shall gently tug her panties down and, while feasting my eyes on her gorgeous, throbbing buttocks (oh, God!), I shall commence, in small but ever increasing circles, to slowly caress those golden orbs. As their initial tension gradually dissipates and gives way to complete relaxation resulting in eventual buttock separation, the full glory of her magnificent labia will stand revealed. I shall then reach down, grasp them lightly between thumb and forefinger, and give them a little wiggle.

    By this time progresSIEVE’s breath will start coming in short, heated gasps. Goose flesh will begin to pop up on those beautiful buttocks and, at length, as she comes without care or restraint, the full flower of her heterosexuality will be restored.

    However, I’m not sure about the racist part. Maybe, while bringing progresSIEVE to orgasm, I should put on some rhythm and blues.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  17. Excellent! And it might help if you gave area sperm banks permission to hand out mimeographed copies of your post to aid those “progressive minded” “gay men of colour” as they pad off to the toilet to engage in an activity that’s “more fun than donating blood”.

  18. I can’t believe Godwin’s law hasn’t reared its ugly head by now.

    One particular choice to create a certain, ‘better’ groups of people…
    better for the race… a super-race … eventually…

    jesus.

  19. I thought about enacting Godwin for the Chris Brown debate. After Batshit suggested we enjoy artists for their art and not their personal failings, I thought of young Adolf as a painter. Seemed too heavy-handed for a topic about a petulant Pop/R&B singer with a bad temper.

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