Readers will recall that in my “The Under-class in Halifax: A Thematic Approach” I attempted, in a spirit of academic collegiality, to sketch the outlines of a possible paper (or even thesis!) in sociology and/or social psyhology employing the contributions to “Bitch” since they embodied, for the most part, the ruminations of the Underclass itself. The structure, readers will also recall, consisted of three parts each of which embodied as aspect of the Underclass mind. Now, however, it is time to step back and give greater specification to the concept itself. It is time to ask the prior question: “What is an Underclass?” My reply – restricted in length to accomodate the conceptually-challenged – consists of two parts: (1) The Underclass as a Substantive Concept and, perhaps paradoxically, (2) The Underclass as a Fluid Concept.

(1) The Underclass as a Substantive Concept:

A “substantive concept,” of course, implies the actual existence of the entity in question, one subsisting in a mind-independent reality. The Underclass, in other words, is real and not simply a transient social construct. This, by extension, implies that “reality” is not to be confused with tangibility. The stone lying in the road is not more “real” than the Underclass since reality is to be understood in terms of its embedded meaning and not its brute physicality. So, hammering in the first tent-peg, the Underclass exists independently of whether anyone happens to be thinking about it.

(2) The Underclass as a Fluid Concept

While the Underclass is a substantive concept it is, perhaps paradoxically, not a static concept. Indeed, the criteria constitutive of the Underclass – its “Markers” as they have previously been characterized – will vary over time. But this does not make the Underclass is a totally amorphous concept – the broad parameters, while variable, still remain in place. (Just how the concept of the Underclass varies over time will require further treatment by way of an examination of the fluidity of the Markers themselves, but this is not a topic for present consideration.)

So, there we are. Put down your pens. Take a break.

Cheerio!—Montrealman

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  1. this dude is really starting to make me wonder, if all the mental cases are still safely tucked away. jesus christ man, either give us a break on your superior mentality, or just give us a fucking break. your piece was well, unusually long, boring, and hurt my brain, trying to read it. so i didn’t bother doing that too much.maybe you had a valid point somewhere, but it got lost in your seemingly never ending drivel.toodle loo.

  2. methinks somebody is pretty happy with his superior intellect and perhaps we should all chip in for a mensa membership; yep i reckon yep 🙂

  3. OP- a pretentious twat with an inferiority complex, starved for attention.

    Paranoid Schizophrenia AIDS = Another asshole 15 year old that LTWWB has too many of already.

  4. Thank you all once again for your kind comments.

    I thought it might be an idea to comment myself periodically on one or two of your comments by way of limbering up for my next installmant: “Applying the Underclass Markers: Targeting the Redneck Strutters.” I think you’ll love it. Anyway, just one or two observations.

    “Bro Tim” at April 3, 205PM writes “I didn’t give a shit about the first one and less so for this one.”

    This embodies the stupidity one finds so boringly prevalent in the comments generally, where they are not simply subliterate. “Bro Tim,” being dim, confounds his unsupported opinions with reasons. Trapped in the all-enveloping arrogance which underlies his view, Bro Tim thinks that the fault lies in my Bitch rather than in the deficiency of his mental “powers.”

    “Life Sucks” at April 3, 2:33PM writes, “Your piece was well, unusually long, boring, and hurt my brain trying to read it… maybe you had a valid point somewhere, but it got lost in your seemingly never ending drivel.”

    Well, “Life Sucks,” in spite of the fact that you found my piece “unusually long” I did point out that it had been abbreviated for the “conceptually challenged.” Clearly, you fall into this category. Like Bro Tim, you confuse your mental flatulence with reasoned argument. No, Life Sucks, my point didn’t “get lost somewhere.” You did. But, on the positive side, “Life Sucks” did seem to appreciate the degree of his intellectual limitations so there might be hope.

    Cheerio!

  5. @Montrealman:
    As with many university educated individuals, you have invariably drawn the line between the university educated and those that haven’t as the dividing line between “upper” and “underclass” (by using that term specifically instead of the usual lower class you have also displayed the rather large blind spot regarding your own very deep rooted arrogance).

    Your blantant intellectual browbeating of those you feel are “inferior” to yourself has proven thoroughly that you have missed the whole point of educating one’s self…ENLIGHTENTMENT. You have chosen to use your education and knowledge not for the betterment of your community but for your own sense of self worth…a common mistake of the self-important and mentally short-sighted. You have not realised that wisdom is not something procured from a classroom or a textbook…it is something earned through introspection.

    Kudos for all of the education you have acquired, sadly you are still a jackass and I doubt that more schooling will alter that.

  6. Nicely put DER.
    Montrealman are you really so obtuse that you believe your B.S. that your first submission was actually -“in the spirit of Academic Collegiality” ?
    If you believed you were being a ‘partner in a conversation of equals’ yet you adhere a label of underclass to those of us who regularly use a site like this.

    I reiterate my previous post, but because I now realise you’re unable to grasp its true meaning as its written I will attempt to clarify.

    You really need to interact more with humanity & the reality outside of the narrow world of Academia you presently are residing in. Not that you cannot remain a regular participant ,I believe without experiencing hands on the life of this under-class you’ve described , you’ll never actually know anything about the subject, which IMO means you’ll never be able to actually understand it.

    So go get you hands dirty.

  7. As practicing phrenologists, who also posseses GIANT BRAINS like the OP, I would like to offer our admiration for the size of his cranium.

    Would you, dear OP, submit to our measuring the size of your head by any chance?

    We would offer free tea and refreshments for your trouble, as well as having Jeopardy play in the background, subtitles and all (so you can read them!)

    It’s not often that a brain as giant as yours comes along, and if we could trouble you to let us see your GIANT BRAIN, that would be stupendous!

    signed
    medium brain people
    your humble servants

  8. if your head is 64cm around or for medical/religious reasons you don’t need to wear a bike helmet
    signed
    crunchy brain

  9. montrealman, i might be a tad under edemucated to you, but i’m not a douchebag, as you obviously are.

  10. Some further reflection on Montreal man you sound just like a Mayor Miller fan who has escaped from the Toronto zoo,other than that you are just a typical asshole ,whose education has exceeded your I.Q. level

  11. So Paingirl…all the bitching skateboarders only need to become a Sikh & tell the officers they can’t wear a helmet.
    I wonder if they’d find turban’s more comfortable ?

  12. i don’t give a shit what people put on their heads, but those are the rules

  13. Here’s a better study:
    Why does an over-educated, pretentious ass feel the need to come onto a forum, spout nonsense in rolling diatribe that he hopes we won’t understand, all to fulfill his need to feel superior?

    Surely, in the vastness of the internet, there is a forum you can join with like-minded pretentious snobs who have too much education and not enough social skills, where you can ruminate on existentialism or Vonnegut, or whatever else turns your crank. Ah, but then, the superiority wouldn’t be there, because you’d be yammering to others with the same supposed intellect.

    People like you are just boring.

  14. Thank you all once again for your supportive comments.

    As a “jeu d’esprit” let me engage one or two comments briefly for the purposes of intellectual diversion, a “tour de force” if you like.

    “Der” asserts that I claim that I draw a distinction between those who have gone to university and those who have not, labelling the latter the “Underclass.” Der (whatever that means) has clearly confounded my point which has nothing to do with university at all. Rather it has everything to do with the native ability to reason, to advance some support for one’s views, an ability Der clearly lacks. Like the Underclass in general, “Der” thinks he is simply uttering universal truths whereas he is simply offering the malodorous gases of his own introverted megalomania.

    “More” thinks he has me in a performagtive contradiction,” i.e., that since I participate in a forum like this I must also be a member of the Underclass. But, as I explained previously, the distinction was between a “speculative” as opposed to “particpatory” involvement on this site. I was a member of the former but “More,” in his uncomprehending stupidity, has failed to recognize the distinction.

    The phrenologist, “bad” something or other, comes on with his two cents worth but, as is generally known, phrenology was discredited in the 19th. century as a complete pseudo-science. “Bad” is a stupid charlatan.

    “Life Sucks,” boringly, is back as usual, claiming that I am a “douchebag.” Jesus, “Life Sucks,” can you get something which minimally resembles a life?

    “Bluenosedoug” offers an intellectually interesting conundrum. It seems that my education has exceeded my IQ level. Bluenosedoug, do you have the wit to explain that statement? Are you making a distinction between IQ level on the one hand and education on the other? If so, would you be able to support it? No, I didn’t think so.

    Cheerio!

  15. Hysteron proteron, hypallages, the OP brought his complete discernment kit with him.

    Useful discourse within an appropriate forum.

    The dislocation of your viewpoint is what fails. At that point, it becomes self-aggrandizement.

  16. “Cheval dans le Metro, quest-ce que tu fait?”I’m thinking that:
    a)Lucien Bouchard’s left leg has been resurrected Golem-style to defend “the distinct society” from us nasty, brutish & short Nova Scotians.
    b) Some Concordia professor is taking a break from bombing Talmud schools and vandalizing Jewish cemeteries to protest the existence of the state of Israel.
    or c)Kaythulhu has reinvented herself as a flatulent pseudo-intellectual to remind us Nova Scotians of how much we suck. Which Governor-General is it that you’re married to?.

  17. Actually Montrealman once you posted your ‘speculative’ Bullshit on this site, you became participatory !
    DOOOH ! Montrealhomer, you really are not as bright an example of Academia as you would wish .
    Or as the gutter patrons you were hoping to speculate about might say, you fail.

    PS if you want to speculate about this subject you need to do it outside of the of the area of interest, go back to the classroom you need to attempt to comprehend what your learning…good luck with that, as anyone can be a parrot.
    Although your parroting is very close to the book lol.

  18. At first I thought Ivan Sonofabitch had reinvented himself (Kay never came to mind) but further reading dismissed that idea. Then I though: Frosty has pulled off the gloves…
    Regardless, I was amused = )

    The idea of OP entering a forum where the majority of its participants, presumably, are the subjects of the topic he choose to submit; then presenting that topic in such a form which, if OP is to be believed, could never understand it anyway (comprehensively or/and conceptually) is funny. There would be no point, which is the point, I think…I hope.

    Still, it seems pointless overall = p

    (Speaking of brutish…Lifesucks knocking you slightly out of character was also amusing.)

  19. It vas not me Tovarisch HKM. I have been these last weeks in my home village, Novoyachelyabinsk because of sudden death of beloved family ox, Iosif Vissarionovich. Death was caused by extreme age, decades of backbreaking socialist labor, repeated taserings by overzealous border guard and upcoming wedding feast of my 9 year old sister , Treblinka. Is biblical name, I think – father was, how you say, old of school. So old school we never knew his last name – papa vas rolling stone, yes?

  20. Please do not encourage me lovely Girl of Pain. It only makes me worse. Novoyachelyabinsk has changed much since I left. There is now electricity 3 days out of 7. Successful completion of 1953-1958 5 year plan now means that all vimmens in village have either broom OR shovel. Great success. Ground has been broken for construction of John Cafferty and Brown Beaver Band Memorial Auditorium, paving the way to make Novoyachelyabinsk the Bransonmissouri of Eastern Europe. And annual fertility festival “Send The Jew Down The Luge” is now televised on cable access. What a country.

  21. Hello to all once again! Thanks so much for your kind thoughts.

    Since ten comments have been posted it is time to do a little housecleaning. I am nothing if not fastidious! Unfortunately, I will not be able to reply to each comment in turn but only to those which, I think, warrant some response if only to point out the fuddled thought they embody and where, indeed, any embodied thought may be said to exist al all.

    “TTFN” at 8:26PM cryptically writes: “Anyone for cryptic syllogisms?” I didn’t think I was being cryptic – on the contrary it is TTFN! To put my thought in syllogistic form, it would go like this:

    Major Premise: All thought below a certain level characterizes the Underclass in Halifax.

    Minor Premise: TTFN’s thought is below a certain level.

    Conclusion: Therefore, TTFN belongs to the Underclass in Halifax.

    Is that being “cryptic?”

    “More” at 9:41PM tries but fails to saddle me with the old “performative contradiction” (see my reply to comments on “The Underclass in Halifax: A Thematic Approach”) in which I am seen as a “particiatory” rather tyhan a simple spectator on this site. But More fails to understand that I do not engage the usual trifles – “My Noisy Neighbor” and so on – but rather that I aim at deconstructing the minds (such as they are) of the commentators themselves. It’s a subtelty which, clearly, More has difficulty in grasping. In closing, More says, “Get your hands dirty.” My God More, what do you think I’m doing now?

    HKM at 12:42AM takes a slightly different tack, suggesting that I have entered a forum in which the majority of the participants are the object of my scrutiny (correct so far) but that I then unfairly put such scutiny in such a form such that those participants could never understand it anyway. He concludes that “there would be no point, which is the point, I think… I hope.”

    I must say HKM. I did enjoy your little attempt at reflexive reasoning. I must say that I see some signs of hope for you. But, and I think the other respondents will support me here, you seem to write them all off as incapable of understanding at all (whether “comprehensively or/and conceptually”). The question HKM, is will they acccept being written off so cavalierly? I think not. Watch your back!

    A doddle as always!

    Cheerio!

  22. I missed you, Ivan. You make me smile = )

    Where is Miles? I miss him too. He doesn’t even appear to have said good-bye! It makes me wonder if his abrupt exit ties into the Coast looking for a new moderator.

  23. i don’t know hkm we have called on miles several times to no avail…hope he is otay

  24. Good try, M&M…but you have to give the people here a little more credit. You underestimate them. Deliberately eliminating the part where I said “if OP is to be believed” (when I spoke of their ability to understand) will not escape their notice.

    I am not sure what your purpose is in steering the ‘others’ to see my statement as a personal slight to each and every one of them while at the same time warning me to ‘watch my back’, but I think it compares to the letting out of blood amongst sharks in the hope that they will work themselves into a frenzy and attack one another.
    It would be amusing (mostly for you) if you could manipulate them that easily, but, once again, I think you underestimate them.

    As for your slight (albeit condescending) nod…for what it’s worth…thanks…I think = (

  25. Well hopefully, paingirl, his years of being part of this dysfunctional community will cause him to wander back here at some point in time–whether or not it was his job to be here. Had I had warning that he would disappear, I would have proposed to him before it was too late…but alas! = )

  26. Dear Montrealhomer
    in the words of my long dead Grandmother, “Thought , thought he shit himself…but he had only farted !”
    Which sums you up perfectly, a bit of hot air (and smelly to boot) but no substance what so ever.
    Have a great day.

  27. Hah! This guy is the very definition of Asshat.
    It talks so it can hear itself speak.
    Bravo, my dear Asshat!

  28. I’m bored of this bitch – after all, my brain pool is so shallow.

    OP, I’ve seen your ilk rattle coffee cups for change, I’ve seen ’em become ‘the crazy old turd who mumbles in Elizabethan sonnets while whacking his whopper against a fire hydrant’ – one of the benefits of being on this planet for five plus decades is that you see ’em all come and go, no matter how educated or magnificant. I may rank as underclass in your world and you are as significant as an asscrack hair in mine.

  29. ah montrealman, i can sum up everything you have so far interjected us with here in two small words. VERBAL DIARHEA. thank you, thank you very much, elvis has just left the building, to puke from that last round of shit.

  30. Back at ya HKM. And, as one who fervently embraces the whole “anti-intellectual” aesthetic that John Rectum Saul here takes such umbrage with, you may “cavalierly dismiss” me to your heart’s content. I would consider it an honor and a privilege.

  31. dude there’s is jobs for you when you grad. attourney at law; because god knows we need more long winded mouth pieces yes siree bob 🙂

  32. I’m going to guess that Montrealman isn’t too popular with the ladies. or the fellas. Do a study on why people don’t want to hang around a condescending dipshit.

  33. Just a postscript: Stunnly, I ommitted to comment on Ivan Sonofabitch’s three comments (April 5 at 7:15AM, 1:15PM, and 2:43PM).

    Here is my comment: I really don’t know what to make of Ivan. I think he might be some sort of Slavophile. I also think he might be ill.

    Cheerio!

  34. Lashings of thanks for taking time out from what is obviously a very busy schedule of writing “Jacob on Edward” slash. You are correct on both counts.
    Chin chin.

  35. This bitch is really masturbatory. Wow.

    This group can’t be academically substantiated. Strictly because of the anonymity. So, as a academic construct, it fails immediately. A poor thesis, friend.

  36. Makes me think of why people call Quebecers ‘Pepsis’ – like the cola bottle, empty from the neck up.

  37. NGF, you’re wrong. S/he must be from Shawinnegan because everything s/he is typing is completely incomprehensible.

  38. “h’I am met dis damn protestor.
    We just are not agree.
    h’Im grab ‘is neck, h’Im squeeze ‘is face.
    Now ‘e look and talk like me.”
    -former Prime Minister Jean Poutine, 1997

  39. Thank you all once again for your kind thoughts. It’s time to get back to work as I see there are more than the usual quota of comments before I step in to put things right. So off we go.

    “HKM” at 4:49PM writes, bitterly, to the effect that it would be amusing for me if I could manipulate the Underclass that easily by turning them against him. HKM, I was merely concerned for your welfare! You are one of my favourites! Don’t spoil things!

    “More” at 5:12PM is back with his usual vacuous comments. He protests that my Bitch “has no substance what so ever.” One can only wonder, what would “substance” ever look like to More? What possible meaning could the concept have for him?

    “HTFN” turns up again at 5:59PM protesting, ungrammatically, that “I’m bored of this bitch – after all my brain is so shallow.” TTFN is certainly right about the second part but whining that she is bored simply reveals the fact that her diminished abilities are unequal to the task at hand. By the way, they didn’t have fire hydrants in Shakespeare’s time. I hope you’re going to thank me for that, TTFN.

    There’s “Life Sucks” back at 6:02PM. He writes that he thinks it’s all “verbal diarhea.” I think he means “diarrhoea.”

    And there’s “Dr. Fever” at 7:58PM who maintains that the Underclass cannot be “academically substantiated. Strictly because of the anonymity.”
    I suppose Dr. Fever means “academically comprehensible” or something like that but I believe the reason he gives for the shortfall is just wrong. One listens for the mind at work in the words. The mind is thereby revealed. The actual identity of the writer is irrelevant. Indeed, a case may be made for the reverse, that, as with “in vino veritas,” so anonymity encourages one to speak truly. I have been listening to your mind, Dr. Fever, and I don’t like what I hear.

    Finally, “Bro Tim” (oh dear) is back at 10:12PM to inform us that he finds my theory of the Underclass to be “completely incomprehensible.” Yes, Bro Tim, we knew that. You should have added, “To me.” Now back you go, into your cage.

    Cheerio!

  40. Sir, your self-important attitude knows no bounds. There are precious few people in this world who are as important or intelligent as you claim to be. I think that the difference between “underclass” as you put it, and the implied “upper class” that goes with it is this; “underclass people” are people too. We are intelligent about things that matter. We keep the world running. We fix your plumbing, build your houses, and make your lights turn on. The self important attitude you possess, along with (I am sure) many years of university over-education would not help you (as an example) in an apocalypse scenario. I appreciate intelligence, and am smart enough to “fold” when I know I can be out-worded, but realize this – If I were to be part of a small group of people at the end of days, I would hope that the other people included many tradespeople and nobody like yourself. My reason is simple – because your knowledge, substantial it may (or may not) be, is USELESS.

  41. Thanks TTFN, You keep me larfing, too. Sonofabitchova tells me I’m like Cartman only less tolerant and lacking the social skills. I love her so.

  42. Then you’re at a loss, because by proclaiming that you’re using this site as a social construct, you’ve ruined your study sample, because we’ll all act differently (whether we do is a matter of debate, but academically, it ruins the sample). That ruins your sample, and therefore your study. Again, it’s a poor study. Also, because you cannot certify the identities of the people who post here, you don’t know who you’re studying. The “Underclass”, as you see it, does not exist strictly here, because we do not identify strictly with this group, and I suggest it doesn’t exist at all, because one would need to study the internet as a whole to find the so-called “Underclass” of the internet. Believe me, a YouTube comment board is a far more interesting study of what could be identified as an “Underclass”.

    Secondly, what don’t you like? Hm? Is it something I said? I have done? Or is it that I see you as others have seen? Self-serving and egotistical?

    See? I can do faux-intelligentsia as well. Nice try with the Latin though. I took first year Latin as well.

  43. /agree @ Dr. fever, who seems to be more of a thinker and less of a showy walking thesaurus

  44. Love Cartman, Ivan, his clone was my best buddy in school. For a short time I honestly thought you might be my brother, your rapid, sharp wit is eerily similar to his. Sonofabitchova is one lucky proletarian.

  45. OP, I predict you’ll eventually sink into your colossal mound of written excrement as we of the humble underclass clap our gnarly mitts off with more pleasure than your ‘superior’ IQ could comprehend.

    By the way, how is Pinky? And exactly when do you intend taking over the world?

  46. M&M you make me laugh = )…especially when you chose to cast me in a certain light with the use of the word ‘bitter’ (as if your words had that much power over me). Yet, instead of baiting me (if that was your intention), your usage of that word in combination with your plea to ‘not spoil things’ caused me to think of another word: devious. And, as I have said before, you are deviously funny = p
    (Although, sometimes your humour causes me to wince.)

  47. Montrealman has confused “academia” with “social hierarchy.” For some reason he thinks that these two unrelated concepts also have something to do with a third unrelated concept, “intelligence.”

    One can be “low” or “high” on a social scale, and still have achieved—or not achieved—certain academic credentials.

    Likewise, one can be “low” or “high” on a social scale and have high—or low—innate intelligence, regardless of status or education levels achieved.

    Position in social hierarchy, credentials earned, level of intelligence: none of these three things are necessarily dependent on one another.

    Case in point: the English Royal Family: clearly, the “highest” one can be on the British social scale, but many of them with surprisingly poor education level, considering their wealth and privilege. (The women, for instance, were often never given much basic “education” beyond “finishing school”—where they learned etiquette, posture, deportment, etc.) And as for the intelligence of that bunch? All over the board. Some are bright, some are not, and all the social prestige and educational opportunities in the world cannot change that.

    I know I am stating the obvious, but I still can’t figure what the OP is going on about. He is so confused on this basic issue of class/education/intelligence, I suggest he put more effort into his actual studies, rather than the very poor imitation he is trotting out here.

    His writing style and thought processes are so typical of the undergrads I teach. I love getting stuff like this from students because it let’s me take out my big red pen and bleed profusely over all the crap they try to pass off as intelligent thought.

    D-minus, Montrealman.

  48. 5 will get you 10 that monsieur smarty Mcsmartmeister has a sci-fi action figure in his possesion; any takers 🙂

  49. Thanks, Nobody Nowhere, you said it so much better than I could – then again you don’t have a cranium three bottles short of a six pack.

  50. OMG Montrealass insulted me. Now I have to go into the corner and cry. In the words of Bugs Bunny – “What a maroon”.

  51. “Position in social hierarchy, credentials earned, level of intelligence: none of these three things are necessarily dependent on one another.”

    Bravo Nobody, Nowhere! None of these things are necessarily dependent upon defining the inclusion of high class in one’s persona, something the pseudo-classic OP apparently missed while pursuant of his/her ‘education’.

  52. My Dalek can take your Spock Paingirl. And Tim, TTFM I’m still mopping up the pee from your double barrelled salute to Warner Brothers. The rest of the warehouse are calling me Fergie behind my back. Thanks guys, thanks lots.

  53. EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE. And forget that TT, I’ll just start posting on Savage Love .It’s more his cup of…. Nope, couldn’t finish it.
    By the way guys, Willard should be checking in on his experiment soon. Miles, I’ll need you on the wheel. Bro, Nobody, Martym into the Habitrail. Keep working on your nests Paingirl and TTFM… And Lifesucks, start breeding like, well, a lab rat. The rest of you head for corners and go eek, eek, eek. Lets fuck up this wankers thesis, big time.

  54. MILES!
    *holy crap!…miles…gulp…*
    I…er, I mean, WE missed you!
    um….so just how much of this thread have you read?
    It’s a really, really, long, tedious read, so you probably didn’t bother, right?
    Right?!

  55. shhhh, paingirl…
    *whispers in her ear*
    there’s a chance he won’t see it…reading M&M causes one’s eyes to glaze over

  56. Ha ha HKM…no, I didn’t read the whole thing….I just scrolled down until I saw your posts and started from there….*now I’m blushing*

    Actually, I’ve been trying to catch up on the moderator story Lorilulu mentioned…what’s the situation now…robot moderator?

  57. No, just your standard run-of-the-mill MSVU women’s studies grad – watch your fingers, kid.

  58. vagina dentata?

    I’m to understand the C-bombs can’t be dropped anymore? I’ll have to come up with some new, non-underclass, material.

  59. *blush….nervous giggle*
    So….if you plan to take off for good next time, give me warning (or not), and we’ll talk.
    = )

    Did anyone else read the ad for Coast moderator? Holy shit! The list of duties went on and on….
    can you imagine?!
    Greet people coming in, answer phone, proof copy, read Kay’s whining complaint (for the hundredth time), delete NGF (for the hundredth time), wipe out the word c–t at least ten times a day.
    After few months of multitasking, she’ll probably get all screw up (especially if she has to read us day (and night)).
    One day, she’ll get confused and tell the client at her desk to stop whining, answer the phone “hello, you have reach the C–t, I mean, Coast”, welcome NGF warmily and delete Kay.
    Can’t wait = p
    We could welcome (initiate) her and all write only prohibited words for a hour or so. I wonder how long it would take to delete us all?
    Of course, that would be just plain mean!
    *hee hee*

  60. TTFN, you can hold my Kleenex box anytime.

    And wasn’t that so nice for the Socialists not to tax diapers. Hope everyone out there who voted for these clowns are happy.

  61. Thanks LTWWB faithful for keeping this interesting. I almost took the bait during MM’s first diatribe, but backed off muttering, “Obvious troll is obvious.”

  62. omfg I beleive my dumbass jibberish has been validated when i’m mentioned in a post by ‘A’ lister bitchy russian dude; i’m as giddy as a little girl (can i put this on my resume) :):):)

  63. You bitches are SO good at “mean”. What’s to worry about? I’ve posted so little this YEAR not once have I been a top bitch, I avoid responding to Fat at all and you’re STILL hung up on me. It sure don’t take much… it’s just that I’m not gay but if I had argued the sky was purple 3 years ago and you bitches proved me wrong and I had to conced after 100 posts you’d STILL pressume I think the sky is purple and write SHIT like what I see here, hence the term “sheep”. I’ve even left your shithole of a province so snap out of it, would ya? Get over me. You make LTWWB shitty shit shit when you get hung up on me so knock it off and be a good bunch o’bitches now. Too hard? TRY it. For ONCE.

    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  64. BoOoNnNnGgG!!!! – take a breather, y’all and hold it in for 15 minutes.

    I’m curious, Kay, why do you keep coming back to our Hillbilly Hollow’s Hotline?

  65. Wow. I mean, just…Wow.

    Kay, I was using the tension between you and NGF to show how time consuming the moderator’s job could be when hostilities erupted and tempers flared. Regardless of whether it is a thing of the past, at this time, your and NGF’s battle is the best example of why there is a need for a moderator (and, perhaps, why the Coast has to find a new one every so often).
    Relax.
    How are you settling into your new home, by the way? Did the welcome wagon stop in with their discount coupons and sample packs?

  66. NGF, when I’m mad at somebody, do you know what I do. I go to an animal shelter after hours and offer the night attendant 5 bucks for the unclaimed corpse of a euthanised dog. Then I take it home, skin it, dress it up in leather fetish clothes and leave it on that person’s doorstep with a sign around it’s neck that reads “You”. After that I usually feel a lot better and no harm done. And Martym, anyone who uses action figures to take down a pompous gas bag couldn’t be guilty of dumbass gibberish if he tried. A privilege to have served with you, sir.

  67. Ivan, Ivan, you made me pop another lung laughing – thankfully, I have a new 100 pack of paper bags to replace said lung until I am able to extract a new one from the neighbour’s Saint Bernard. Better swipe his flea collar while I’m at it.

  68. Thank you, thank you once again for all your kind thoughts. My “cup of kindness,” as the expression goes, “overfloweth.”

    The comments – 100 of them, can you imagine – are, for the most part and fortunately, all beside the point so no detailed response will be required. There are, however, one or two, which require some scrutiny.

    Longwalker at 10:06AM invokes the old pragmatic criterion. After revealing that we are, after all, “people” – good going Longwalker – he pronounces that my knowledge, substantial as it may or may not be, is “USELESS.” Well, Longwalker, it all depends on how one defines “USELESS.” Yes, the plumbers and the carpenters of the world have value, but the question to be answered is, “To what end?” Longwalker, like pragmatists generally, has no answer for this.

    “Nobody, Nowwhere” at 1:16PM resurrects the old chesnut – one had hoped it had been laid to rest -that I confounded the correlation between academia and the social hierarchy, that one, as he pompously puts it, “can be ‘low’ or high on a social scale and still have achieved – or not achieved – certain academic credentials.” “Nobody” reports that one’s position in the social hierarchy, level of intelligence, and academic credentials are not “necessarily” dependent on one another. Of course no one said that they were “necessarily” dependent on one another but, of course, they are certainly “contingently” dependent. “Nobody” illegitimately invokes a radical relativism in support of his claim which boils down to the vacuous assertion that “nothing matters” but we all know, including, of course, “Nobody,” that this is not so.

    Must run.

    Cheerio!

  69. What’s with a frog using an English addage such as “Cheerio”? Fuck sakes, grenouille, get your stereotypes right before trying to sound smart at least.

  70. Montréalman, it appears you did not fully read my last post.

    Everyone else on here knows that I’m the academic in real life, except you. You are outranked. And, I, for one, am tired of your attempts to play “grad school.”

    So, to clarify: your thesis proposal has already been given a failing grade by the prof, and the rest of the advisory committee. No further discussion will be entertained.

    CLASS DISMISSED!

  71. Thanks Ivan 🙂 MM dude i give you points for fortitude anywho; but give it up no ones impressed; not even us great unwashed types and certainly not higher caste typses. Perhaps a neo-con rag forum would relish your bull-shit .

  72. “[M. Montrealman, what you’ve [written] is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever [read]. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having [read] it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

    – adapted from ‘Billy Madison’

  73. Well, I am just dumb as I started out on this thread…no more, no less. I never actually read it = p (I’ll bet there were very few people here who actually bothered to read it through.) Like I said, what would be the point? What he is trying to say has nothing to do with what he actually wrote.
    Anyway, the spinning of your big wheels seems to be slowing, M&M ; )

  74. “”It makes me wonder if his abrupt exit ties into the Coast looking for a new moderator.””

    …or that bit in the Herald about the guy they caught peeping into girls’ dormrooms dressed in a SCUBA mask and clown suit…

    …just sayin’

    😉

  75. I would define useless as – “having no beneficial use or incapable of functioning usefully” or something to that effect. Yes, I fully believe that your academic bullshit is indeed, useless. As for “to what end” the tradespeople of the world are good for – EVERYTHING AROUND YOU. EVERYTHING in our society is a result of hard working tradespeople, direct or indirect. So, to what end are they useful? To EVERY end. Want some examples? Any skyscraper is the result of Ironworkers, general labourers, miners, plumbers, electricians, not to mention all the refinement processes for both stone used in concrete and for steel used in beams. Every house on municipal water in Halifax has had pipe laid by a crew of pipe layers in the streets surrounding it. We have over a thousand kilometers of water pipe in the ground here, someone had to put it in. Same goes for sewer. The power you use daily? It comes to your house courtesy of linesmen who perform maintenance, and private electical contractors installing new lines daily.

    Now, do us all a favor and fuck off.

    Cheerio

  76. Well, Frosty, it appears the children have not gone to bed, after all. See you tomorrow, perhaps = )

  77. No no no…really, I think we should take advantage of this kind stranger who has made this humble forum his temporary home (or did I mean “whom” has made this….?)*

    We need to settle this once and for all, I’ve been stewing on this for a week…

    We need to define, once and for all, what ‘exactly’ constitutes a “funny cat story”. I had one that I though was, well, pretty funny. It was funnier than most of the other ones anyway. In fact, part of me deep down inside, is still laughing at my own story; that’s how good it was!

    OP, you seem like the kinda guy that would know a good cat story from, say, oh I dunno…a tale of ‘animal abuse’? I mean, they talk about that kinda thing in college, right? About how if someone gets dropped on their head as an infant, it can affect their whole life afterwards, and not just because they have an oddly flat-shaped head, but other stuff too?

    Anyway, Let me know.

    bMf

    PS, Also, I was thinking…do you have any thoughts or musings, one way or t’other, on the Halifax “puppet scene”? We should probably get THAT one behind us as well, *whew*…we could surely use your help there!

    * see? SEE?! I’m fucking getting smarter just by posting on this thread! I can feel my fucking head goona ‘plode!

  78. The puppet bitch rules! Infinitely more entertaining than the pretentious arrogant bitchings.

  79. For those who missed it or those who want to reminisce…voila…the infamous puppet bitch:

    “HaliFUCK Culture Scene
    Posted on Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:34 PM
    What the fuck is up with the culture scene in HaliFUCKS??! Shit! I moved half way cross the country to this fucking city for school, and its deadd! Fuck, where I come from you could sit out front a building and whip out a puppet, and fucking marionettes would gang round from everywhere. Muthafuckers would be whippin off they socks and drawin faces on em to get in on the action. Shit! Man, this stuff went down daily! Round this fuckin shit spot they anint nothin. Nothinn! Fuck! I took my puppets down to fucking Murphy’s wharf and not one fuckin soul joined me! I fuckin had to do Mid Summer Night’s Dream by my fuckin self! Shit, man, back home we used to find a fuckin cardboard box in an alley, cut a hole in that muthafucker, and put on a fuckin puppet show. What the fuck is wrong with you Halifax??!!! Shit, it pisses me off too much to even write bout!
    —puppet master”

  80. WTF is this, a novel? There’s no plot, just an assortment of characters comprising of puppets and other magical creatures.

    Umph! I’m going back to my BIG picture book, of War and Peace 🙂

  81. HKM, I agree. Fat’s comments like “I hope you get raped with something sharp and rusty” and other unspeakable things about my “gay bastard kid” certainly do require moderation as do his death wishes on this very thread. Maybe it’s a part-time job, eh?

  82. In an earlier post Professor Chaos alluded to a current of Fracophobia running through us un-evolved plebs. Missing the point that he is not doing his adopted home any favors, let me dispell this utterly groundless slander.
    We love Quebec and really, what’s not to love:
    1)Its the most “distinct” Hell’s Angels clubhouse in the hemisphere, if not, the world
    2)If there’s another place where the license plates read “I Am Soup”, I want to know about it.
    3) Simultaneously with being the Vatican’s equivalent of an “Occupied West Bank” on North American soil, quebecers are able to worship Celine Dion as a fertility goddess AND the Staypuft Marshmallow Man at their pagan winter solstice festival without drawing the attention of the Office of the Holy Inquisition.
    4) The richness and subtlety of the french language means that we’ll see some really imaginative euphemisms for ethnic cleansing once they separate.
    5)It’s going to be hella good fun going to Habs games and singing their new national anthem – “I’m a star in New York, I’m a star in L.A.”
    But, by far the best thing about the province of bells is that New Bumsuck sits neatly between us and them.

  83. and they have the best peelers in the world; every male should visit Hull once before they die 😉

  84. Oh yeah! Giggity-giggity. Let’s not forget the heroic way they expressed their opposition to U.S. foreign policy by placing the blame for it squarely where it belonged, on the shoulders of a bunch of 13 year old hockey players.

  85. Indeed. Sometimes I wish they WOULD seperate.
    It would knock 7 hours off the drive to Toronto for one thing!

  86. I hear that for this year’s St. John the Baptist day they are banning all English language advertising on burquas and niqabs. Labatts stands to lose a bundle.

  87. Monsieur-le-Montreal penser que tout les Haligonian ‘under-class’ est francophobe? C’est ne pas possible! Touts les gens avec juste un cerveau. Merde! Tragique certainement.

  88. We haven’t heard from Hannibal Wanker for about 24 hours now. Hope he’s otay. Perhaps his mum caught him spanking the curate with a copy of ‘Allo Police. “No computer for 2 weeks you little Mr.”
    Anyways he deserves credit for starting the most entertaining and lively discussion since “Peter Kelly: Zombie or Liver Fluke?”
    MM your gilded Diva Cup is in the mail with our humble gratitude.

  89. My guess, Ivan, is the third installment is being worked (and reworked) while we move on to greener bitches. It’s been entertaining. The next installment will likely detail how our collective dismissal of his tripe supports, nay even substantiates, his suppositions.

    I missed the zombie v liver fluke discussion. I’m off to comb the archives while I guzzle coffee.

  90. I posted a reply to what was then the latest of the readers’ comments (at #119) on Wednesday morning but it didn’t appear. I’m thinking that cretins like “Bluenose in BC” – “If there is a moderator out there, it’s time to step up and do something about this asshole” (March 30, 3:17PM) -finally got to the moderator. If so, I’m out of here. You can’t fight city hall. If not, I’ll briefly re-cap my replies to a couple of the more egregious buffoons and see if this post appears.

    “Nobody, Nowhere” at 9:22AM, clearly a pompous ass, writes, “Everyone else on here knows that I’m the academic in real life, except you. You are outranked. And I, for one, am tired of your attempts to play ‘grad school.'” If only you knew, Nobody, if only you knew. But even if his academic credentials are, in fact, genuine and not simply imagined, it is Nobody’s complete lapse of etiquette which marks him out as truly a member of Halifax’s Underclass. Nobody, one does not thump one’s chest over one’s credentials in a forum like this. Nobody, you are a dogsbody.

    “Three” at 9:41PM reveals that he had to “adapt” his comment from one “Billy Madison,” whoever he might be. In future Three, try and write your own stuff, will you?

    I’m becomng increasingly disappointed with HKM at 10;28PM who writes, “What he is trying to say has nothing to do with what he actually wrote.” Now, HKM, could you substantiate the distinction between “what I am trying to say” with “what I actually wrote?” Your standing in my estimation, HKM, will turn on your reply.

    “Longwalker” at 11:21PM, the self-appointed champion of the working class rants, in response to my question, “To what end?” that “EVERYTHING AROUND YOU, EVERYTHING, in our society is a result of hard working tradespeople!.” In addition to a performative contradiction – Longwalker’s rant is also “around me in society” but it is not itself a product of those hard working tradespeople – Longwalker, predictably, misconstrues my question. The sense in which I used it was PHILOSOPHICAL (large print for Longwalker) not the narrow pragmatic usage Longwalker is unable to transcend.

    Finally, Ivan Sonfabitch at 7:13AM does his usual buffoonish pratfalls. Sit down Ivan, and have another slug of vodka!

    So let’s see if this reply to a few comments survives. If not, you will never see my concluding piece on the Underclass in Halifax, “Applying the Underclass Markers: Targeting the Redneck Strutters.” I’ll simply take my Underclass Markers and go home.

    Cheerio!

  91. Why ever would the moderator not allow your submission? It makes no sense. Cunt but not blunt? Joker but not charlatan?

  92. “…complete lapse of etiquette which marks him out as truly a member of Halifax’s Underclass”

    Ha ha how drole. The irony does not escape me as it does our intellectual friend apparently. As I was saying to Reginald at the club the other day, “The foul stench of the underclass is beginning to permeate even these hallowed halls. Despite our best attempts to use expansive words where diminutive ones would suffice, some of our rank simply cannot seem to conceal their own arrogance, nor our ability to communicate effectively.”

    To which Reginal replied “Quite right old chap, quite right.”

  93. But who will wipe OP’s ass when his brain does a 360 before imploding inside his skull? Beware the underclass, fella, we can get you from ALL directions.

  94. Montréalman, I can assure you that I do outrank you academically, as well as financially and socially, and that MANY others on this board are also in the same position as I. You are not the one in the “upper class” here, my friend.

    Your presumptions that the games that go on here are only for the amusement of your imagined (“poor?” “uneducated?” “unintelligent?”) “underclass” have been proven wrong on all counts.

    I thought I already made this clear: your pretend thesis proposal has been rejected. School’s over!

  95. I wonder at his use of underclass, though. It is being equated to lowerclass here, and I thought it generally referred more to the criminal element.

  96. Ha ha…nice on Ivan.

    It’s all nonsense from a troll HKM. There’s no real idea there. OP’s just using big words and philosophy jargon to put on an air of superiority and make himself sound smart. His writings lack substance and insight, despite his assertions that they contain both. He also fails to meet one of the main goals of writing…the ability to communicate with your audience. If he really wanted to educate or converse with this “underclass” then he would change his language accordingly. Even in academic circles the writing is horrendous. Just mock him and have fun.

  97. It occurs to me that he didn’t actually calls us underclass, at first, nor did he define his meaning exactly. It was just assumed that he meant us and he meant lowerclass…he just re-enforced our assumptions. Either that or he assumed that underclass meant lowerclass and wasted his and everyone’s elses time building a ‘thesis’ on an assumption.

    oh christ…if I want to elaborate, I’ll have to actually read his postings = (
    Nah…there’d be no point. Exploring the workings of his devious mind/ruse will take the fun out it. It’s become a spectator sport for me.

  98. And a good one HKM. Whatever his motives this thread has been the equivalent of the world’s best pot-luck. Everybody brought chili, lasagna, suicide wings…not a a jelly salad or expired box of Sobeys sugar cookies in sight. All the regulars have been at the top of their game. MM might think he’s been pushing the buttons and pulling the strings, but we’re the ones who’ve been having the larfs. Never bring a knife to a gunfight, junior.

  99. And, although I am pretty sure he indulges in self-gratification, he employs more to release the bitter disappointment of rejection rather than using it as a variation of the ol’ pat on the back.

  100. Ok, what I’ve learned is that; there are very few people here that read history. Look at his history, start at the beginning.

    What’s up Nobody Nowhere? what are you trying to pull?

  101. I haven’t read the majority of comments here but I’ll comment anyway:

    I’d much rather be an “under class” citizen and respect myself and others, thus having a much more enjoyable and fulfilling life, then to be this insecure asshole that has to hold himself up on a pedestal above everyone else in order to make himself imagine that he has a fulfilling life.

    Enough said.

  102. HKM, he does mean us. Click on his name and read his first couple of posts back when he first joined. He mentions a couple of times about enjoying the “musings of the underclass”. They’re only short, so don’t worry, you won’t have to weed through his crap.

  103. The car dealer was charging me $400 for underclass on my new car, but I said no way!

  104. My Dearest Mr. B!

    ; )

    Just making it perfectly clear to our aspiring professor’s slave that any “pomposity” he accuses me of is a right and privilege bestowed by my role within the insitution, and the (hard earned) credentials which he seems to think “the underclass” are incapable of possessing. (None of which would be any fun if I didn’t get to play at the “pompous prof” role at least once in a while!)

    I assure you, beloved and longtime fellow poster, I invoke the vulgar notion of “rank” (in myself and others here) only to illustrate OP’s ignorance about his audience, not to cause offence to anyone else at the party who care not a whit about such trivia.

    I wade through enough of this kind of po-mo/cult-stud drivel from students, faculty and administration in my real life . . . I certainly don’t need any extra from brown-nosing “play schoolers” in my off hours!

    Always Respectfully, B,

    — NN

  105. “”His writings lack substance and insight…”‘

    That may be true (it is)…but it’s funny to see folks react to it as if they did…especially given they were self-described as a hoax a week ago (check history, as was pointed out by Balls).

    It takes (slightly) more skill to hobble together something that “sounds” profound than it does to go the “LIFE S:UCKS!” route – although both “personas”, both “agents provocateurs” if you will, are clearly the work of the same person…! After all, no-one would NATURALLY write in these abrasive styles; styles equally disturbing, albeit from opposites of the literary spectrum.

    Not to brag, but “I” have it sussed…as usual.

    And the final clue to the identity is RIGHT HERE ON THIS THREAD!

    The “Moriarty” of the LTWWB, the “Nemo” of our mysterious little island, the Livingston to our prodigal Stanley…The Kurtz to our eager Marrows, the Almayer to our follies…

    Now go back, humble readers, and review the entire thread slowly and carefully until you, like me, have the identity…which can be confirmed only by Coast staff.

    Enjoy!

    (snicker)

  106. Oh, you were talking to Balls, NN…I thought something else…
    Regardless the cat’s out of the bag (speaking of cat stories).

  107. “Silence is the most powerful scream.” Fuck the person saying that probably also says: “I shouldn’t have to tell you. If you cared, you should just know.”

  108. I assume, Frosty, you just stumbled upon ML’s totally gross, smirking pops-right-out-at-ya photo.

  109. Oh, yes, HKM, but I did want to make sure that no one else in “the inner circle” mistakenly thought that I was being nasty to them.

    And I only got really offended by our OP poseur when he started insisting on calling me a “he” for some mysterious reason. I still have no idea what that is all about.

  110. If Montrealman is actually Lardass Hogan I am going to be so pissed. Vodka will flow, shtetl’s will burn and Wil Wheaton is getting 20 yrs with no right to communication in Kolyma.

  111. “Whereof one knows not, thereof one must remain silent.”

    Wittgenstein

    Well, I must say, it was gratifying to see that my post of Thursday, April 8, was not rejected as was the case with that of the day previous. In that post I made reference to Wittgenstein – a famous philosopher in case the unlettered are not aware – and I thought it was a shame to let it go. Anyway, it was less gratifying to discover that there were thirty comments after #119, my previous cut-off point. I had hoped that there might be only two or three, indicating that the commenters had “shot their bolt.” This is an old pedagogical technique that renders the class quiescent and prepares the ground for the next lesson. Sadly, I see I must take up the burden as before and proceed, in a few selected cases, to spank the commenter.

    HRM is back at 10:16AM and asks, “Why ever would the moderator not allow your submission?” Well, HRM, as you know, I am not a veteran here and suspected, on the prompting of the cretinous “Bluenose in BC,” that the Moderator might undertake some sort of fascist reaction against the “Bitch” party line. HRM clearly has the bit in his teeth as he pops up again at 11:28AM. He asks is my use of “the Underclass” equivalent to the lower class or even more to the criminal class. You’re redeeming yourself in my estimation – I detect some neurological activity, HRM. This, however, is a substantive point which I hope – if I ever get there – to treat in my next submission.

    “Miles (from home)” ridicules my view that I consigned “Nobody Nowhere” to the nether regions of the Underclass because of his lapse in etiquette. Miles is obviously ignorant of the motto over the gates of the quad at New College, Oxford University – he’s probably ignorant of them as well- which reads: “Manners Mayketh Man.” From the foetid confines of his home, Miles can only look upon such a statement with incredulity. Manners, or more properly the lack of them, is a significant Underclass Marker. Miles continues at 11;30AM with the observation that “His writings lack substance and insight, despite his assertions that they contain both.” I recall HRM making a similar claim before I had to spank him. Miles, could you possibly substantiate the claim? What, for you, would constitute “substance” in this context? I won’t ask the second question until you have wrestled with this one. You see Miles, assertions are one thing, thought is another. It is a lesson, as some might have grasped, that I had hoped to teach to the Underclass, or at least to a few of them.

    Finally, “Balls” at 12:24PM puts the rocket up “Nobody Nowhere.” What, he asks the buffoon, are you up to? “What are you trying to pull?” Good going Balls. I’m keeping my eye on you.

    Well, must run.

    Cheerio!

  112. Actually, it was NN you attempted to spank, although you attempted to spank me a few times in the past, as well. Is love of spanking a marker for the upperclasses?

  113. Montrealman: What would be the point in trying to further explain myself? Your replies are empty and predictable, especially since you’ve already clarified that this whole exercise is a ‘spoof’. If I explained myself you would just reply with some more of your 1st year philosophy jargon, throw in some obscure cultural or literary reference and politely insult my intelligence…all the while still missing my point that it’s rude to call people dumb, thus demonstrating your underclass-level manners and etiquette. Just hurry up and submit your final installment so we have something new to make fun of.

  114. i’m thinking somebody didn’t get a good old fashioned ass kicking in high school that was so richly deserved; just a guess you’re higher socio-eco status was achieved with new money oui?; because old money “spokespersonages” would not be so uncouth and smarmy asshole 🙂

  115. Different Seasons had the ‘Long Walk’ in it too if memory serves me.

    I departed from Stephen King a long time ago but he had some interesting short-stories.

    Survivor Type, The Raft, Toy Soldiers, The Ledge, Quitters Inc., Word Processor of the Gods, The Mangler,..et al.

  116. Sonovabitchova’s the King fan in our family. I’m more of a Richard Sharpe bloke but I did enjoy “Toy Soldiers” – ” NUTS” I gave her a copy of “Cell” when she was still working at Convauschwitz. She enjoyed the irony.

  117. OP, Ludwig had one for you, too:

    “Never stay up on the barren heights of cleverness, but come down into the green valleys of silliness.”

    You have so entirely missed the point of LTWWB with your musings on class and onerous writings that you fail to see we lowly trolls look upon you with pity and humour.

    Your theory fails as you have no way to qualify or quantify your “findings”. The most basic underpinning of any study, the sample population, is indeterminable. At best you have an op-ed piece.

  118. quitters inc. was a great short story:shrike…james woods was good in the movie

  119. Montrealman, in spite of your claims of it all being a “spoof” (way to backpedal btw), you still remain a pedantic, class-aspiring, pretender of a bore who obviously has a sad, solitary existence.

    I suspect you think yourself a comedian, a dark wit?

    I also suspect you stride around in high heels and a feather boa blasting Liza Manelli in your apartment striking poses and reciting your own posts as your man-cankle (mankle?) fat strains the stitching of your Nine Wests.

    So glad that you are gone.

  120. “I’m keeping an eye on you” the little boy says.

    So MM what are you implying, by that statement? Are you stocking me? Should I consider that some kind of threat? Surely you could have come up with some better words to relay your thought. Maybe you’re trying to be friendly? You must admit that your statements are very vague (by your makings)

    So, I could easily place you in the underclass (because of “I’m keeping an eye on you”), No? Yes, not because you are but because of how I interpret your writings.

  121. MM seems to enjoy keeping company with the underclass. He especially enjoys writing to them cryptically in an attempt to communicate through non- communication. I thought that he would enjoy a nemesis of sorts–a person at the opposite end of the pole–who enjoys the same things as him.
    It was that or apples.
    How’d you like them apples, MM (Good Will Hunting…thanks Miles)

  122. So there IS someone more pathetic than you. You said you were the most pathetic. See another thing you share with MM–you both like to backpat.

  123. Well, we may not have Omar Khadr back but at least we got him moved to a Wi-Fi access cell. Hey, Sheikh Davie, your new suite got a view of the ocean or what?

  124. Hello once again to all my friends in the Underclass and thanks once again for your kind thoughts and wishes.

    Things are getting a bit hurried at this end as I am trying to finish my research and write-up of the Wine Notes for our blind tasting April 11. The other tasters like to get their copies of the Notes – sent by e-mail attachment – to review and possibly to do a little research on their own. This will be Wine Tasting #65 – we’ve been at it for ten years – and the third of the 2010 tasting season. I realize the members of the Underclass
    will be gobsmacked to read this. The reason, of course, is wine tasting is a middle-class and not an Under Class Marker. So, back to work. My comments will be brief yet succinct.

    “HKM” at 4:57PM asks whether spanking is a marker of “the upper classes” It is, HKM, it is. But, learning that you are a female, I shall desist mentioning it again since you may become over-excited.

    “Miles (from home)” is back at 5:56PM. He has two points to make: (1) he claims that I have already clarified that the whole exercise is a “spoof.”
    Initially, Miles, that was indeed the case
    but, with my second submission, the project took on a life of its own. My style might be light, even witty,but my purpose, I assure you Miles,
    is serious. As with all my endeavours Miles, this one is richly textured and layered. (2) Miles wants to put me into another performative contradiction – will they never give up – and claims that my calling people “dumb” is a violation of etiquette that propels me, like “Nobody, Nowhere,” into the Underclass. But Miles, I have never called anyone “dumb.” Check the record.

    “Shrike” at 11:04PM writes that he “departed from Stephen King a long time ago…” My God, people are stealing my Under Class Markers from me before I get a chance to display them!

    “Three” at 9:37AM (Friday, April 9)writes that my theory “fails as you have nothing to qualify or quantify your ‘findings'”. While the latter is true, Three – the study was never intended to be empirical – the former is not since the study is theoretical. You must wait for the next installment Three. Do not be impatient.

    “Balls” at 12:47PM is back, asking, “Are you stocking me?” No, Balls, and I’m not stalking you either. He goes on to say that he can easily place me in the underclass “not because you are but because how I have interpreted your writings.” I told you Balls was a comer. I’m still keeping my eye on him and expecting great things.

    The cretin “Davy Crocket” can’t even spell his pen name properly, is profoundly ill, and must be ignored.

    Cheerio!

  125. I suppose trying once more to point out your lack of etiquette, and thus your inclusion in our lowly class, would be futile. You will of course, in your arrogance, assume that it is I who has the comprehension deficiency and am simply incapable of grasping both the subtleties and intricacies of your thesis. That’s probably just another marker for the underclass. I assure you the frustration over this lack of effective communication is reciprocated. However, in the interest of my own entertainment, here it goes:

    While you may not have used the word “dumb” specifically, you have repeatedly, both explicitly and implicitly, described your detractors as inferior to you in intelligence and in some cases lacking in mental faculties all together. I’m sure you have a well-used thesaurus and, if you were so inclined, could use it to discover that “dumb” is a suitable synonym for many of your chosen adjectives when describing the mental capabilities of those commenting here. Perhaps you were confused by the alternate meanings of the word “dumb”, for which there are several, but I was certain the context of the word would give away my intended meaning. I will remember to be more direct in my communications with you from now on. Apparently the Upperclass, for all their intellectualism, can be a little daft (this means dumb by the way) when it comes to common sense.

    Just to be clear, even when you use big words to insult people, you are still insulting them. Even if your intelligence assessments were valid, it is still a breach of proper etiquette and civilized discourse to point out another’s foibles, even when using a medium such as an internet forum. If you feel you have not been insulting, please defend your offending comments so I can restore you, or at least my opinion of you, to your proper place in the upper echelons of society. If you are unable to identify the comments in question, I feel my faith in you and your class is sorely misplaced.

    Hope to see you at the club!

  126. Welcome back MM. After this afternoon’s troll-e-rama it’s actually good to hear from you. Still can’t shake the feeling that one of your multiples is that buggy-eyed little guy from “Lost” but whoever you are, yer a hoot. Now I don’t want to validate your country remarks about some of the other underclass, but in earlier post’s you acknowledged that Paingirl was “a nice person” and declared me a buffoon providing empirical evidence that even a broken clock is correct twice a day. Stay away from the Chipman’s Golden Glow at your tasting. Give you a fearsome head, that stuff.

  127. Oh for christ sakes…
    just submit your third installment already…
    it’s getting to the point that I’m considering joining the apple discussion.
    (Sorry but after the endless and pointless babble we had to endure all afternoon, waiting patiently for more is asking too much.)

  128. huh…never mind what I said on the apple thread then. I guess everything’s fine.

    Maybe I’ll take a stab at the third installment.

  129. Ha ha ha…nice innuendo.

    Nah, she’s still working…in another city and I’m, as the name implies, miles from home. Long distance relationships are the way to go. It’s the secret to our success. 🙂

  130. I know what you mean…I married a puker (sailor). He was gone more than he was home. Then he got posted to land. It gave me a chance to really get to know him. A few months later, I was putting as much distance between us as possible. = )

  131. Sorry, Miles, it wasn’t my intention to cast a shadow on your happiness. I never took ample time initially to get to know him better–and I didn’t have your friend there to screen him for me = ).

  132. No worries HKM. We’ve been together for a while now and have been shacked for most of that time. We’ve gone through and survived all the “getting to know you” fights.

  133. Good morning dear friends in the Underclass. Rest assured that I will carry your good wishes with me as I make my way forward to the next installment of my masterpiece, “Applying the Underclass Markers: Targeting the Redneck Strutters.”
    However, a last word to “Miles (at home)” who came on at 5:51PM.

    Miles takes issue with my assertion to the effect that I never used the word “dumb” in connection with the commenters but that, if I used my Thesaurus, I would find many synonyms for it which I did use. Well, the first thing Miles is that I never use a Thesaurus. My command of the language is such that I think Thesaurus could take a few pointers from me!

    A second point, Miles, is that my more “robust” use of language is intended only for the redneck strutters, those commenters who lack sufficient self-awareness to gain some perspective on their vulgar rants. In my “Bitches” – considered apart from my comments on the Commenters – I employ a more elevated academic idiom which (I hope you will have noticed) I am not unfamiliar.

    Finally, Miles, you suffer from a perspectival shortfall. As previously stated, my perspective is spectatorial – an impartial, objective, even scholarly view from above. Your perspective, on the contrary, appears to be participatory. You appear to take things personally. You must raise the level of your game, Miles, if you want to play with the big boys.

    I see that the Comments – numbering nearly 200! – have declined to trivial exchanges between the commenters themseves. Clearly, they have exhausted their respective intellectual repetoires. The time, therefore, has come shut this Comment section down so that I can launch the third installmane of my masterpiece. It’s birth is imminent. I’m feeling the contractions as I write.

    Cheerio!

  134. “I think Thesaurus could take a few pointers from me!”

    lol, he thinks a thesaurus is a person…

  135. also

    Our friend has been busy….

    do a search for “montrealman” in google, leave the quotes, and look at the 5th result.

    He has some…different…tastes.

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