Why?
I have lived in over 40 different rental properties and in 80% of them living conditions are made intolerable by women who feel the need to slam doors and stomp their feet.
Why is it necessary? Are you announcing to the entire building when you enter and exit your apartment? Are you all looking for attention, is that it? Is it just pure malice? If I’m awake then everybody’s awake kind of thing?
Is it depth perception? It seemed to me it was not this bad in the past. Perhaps something in our diet is affecting the depth perception of women?
The foot stomping is really quite incredible, a 90 pound woman usually makes about 105-120db when walking, where a 350 pound man might make 45db? What’s the deal? Damage from high heels? Why does it affect all of you?
It feels like you all hate men and do not want us to have any peace and you will take every opportunity to deprive men of their needs. (mainly sleep and a peaceful domicile.
I just don’t get it. Please explain it to me. Please try to stop. This very issue has nearly driven me insane on several occasions, nearly into a murderous rage. It could ruin my life as I will never be able to afford a house of my own.
Earplugs (+over ear protectors) do not stop door slamming and foot stomping. Most ear protection only covers down to about 20Hz. Earplugs don’t help when the walls and floor shake.
Do you not understand that you are being highly inconsiderate? I can only assume that you all do and are pure evil beings sent from hell. —WhyWhyWhy?
This article appears in Jul 1-7, 2010.
oh.. I can hear the tide of estrogen rising…
it’s like a lavender scented tsunami.
you sound like you might be insane….
Sorry but it’s true. The taller the person is, the less noise they seem to make! I’m a 5’9″ woman and I don’t understand how these short women can make such a loud noise when they walk across the floorboarsd unless it’s on purpose. Small women also have the loudest voices I find. I guess they think the rest of us can’t hear them from up here (actually true in crowded places). Drives me nuts!
If wimmin couldn’t slam doors and stomp their feet they’d never know the sweet sweet feeling of winning an argument. Please address all rebuttals to the balcony of Ivan’s dacha cuz that’s probably where I’m going to be sleeping for the next few days >; )
I like to stomp like an elephant and make the cupboard and stove shake…
I don’t know why….
just a matter of walking on your heels… though it’s good practice for when the ice hits in winter. heel-walking keeps you more sturdy.
now I’m just freaking rambling… for the sake of rambling…
Is it friday yet? I need a break.
Good god, my neighbours (guy and girl hipsters) are also completely incapable of closing a door without slamming it.
I feel your pain OP.
40 rental properties?! How old are you? This smells strange to me. Do you keep moving because of shoe sounds? I am so confused.
so 80%, thats 32 dwellings…i’m with sultan and islary. you might be insane and i am confused
jesus o.p., if they didn’t do that, how would their johns know that they are back home. by the way, what do they usually charge you.
Life Sucks = Troll. No response. (perhaps you’ll learn eventually)
Sultan, islary and paingirl, sleep deprivation does cause permanent mental damage. Irreversible damage begins to occur after about 72 hours. So yes, the longer this goes on, the more insane it makes me.
tralala, it is so good to know that I am not alone in this observation. Thank you.
zzz, I sure hope you don’t live in an apartment building. Ask a physiologist about the effects and efficacy of “heel-walking”.
About 15 of those residences were before I moved out from a single parent home in my teens. The remaining 25 are mostly avoiding the wrathful and hateful noise of women, and the balance were pot-unfriendly. I have never known a home. I have purged all furniture. If I cannot carry it, I do not need it.
The other issue is the curse of extremely acute hearing. I’d almost consider exposing myself to deafening sound levels in order to remove my hearing, but that would be totally insane, and I would still be awakened by the shaking of the walls and floor.
If I could squat outdoors I would, but the last guy that did that around here was burned to death by the mounties. Nice.
I think it all has something to do with the weakness of the female bladder.
I’d prefer stomping to the ethnic cooking odours that circulate in the hallways of my Calgary building. Do people really care to eat something that smells like an outhouse on a hot summer day?
Omg Nevermind, you must live in my building! The people below me are a couple girls and some guy and yes they are hipsters and they make so much fucking noise is absolutely ridiculous! Its like they never learned how to walk, only to run and stomp their feet while screaming at the top of their lungs, especially past 11pm. Oh and forget about closing doors, its like all 3 of them body slam each door about 20 times. They constantly have a bunch of people over and blast music late at night….it takes a lot of noise to bother me because I actually like some noise, so I know there are other people around to get murdered before me. That’s awful I know, but that’s where my mind goes :D! Oh, and one night a couple weeks ago, they got the brilliant idea to watch a dolphin documentary out on their deck (which is right where my window looks over) and turn it up full blast!! WTF is up with that!! It was like 12am!! Fucking hipsters. They also prefer to do their vacuuming at 11 at night. And it’s one of those vacuums with a hose attached to it, so that was also dragging on the floor. I hope their lease is up soon!
see melectric, told you that you should have moved to my area, niceand peaceful, i like it, and keep it that way.
With regard to the smells, I think people do not know what meat is supposed to look, smell and taste like anymore. Whenever someone cooks meat in a building I have lived in it has been rotten. Oddly the women seem to cook more rotten meat than the men. You’d think it would be the reverse.
Perhaps it is just the captive market grocery supply that does it. All the stale product goes to the captive market stores. Where else could you sell it?
The other factor in HRM recently was the Nova Scotia Mental Hospital closing the bulk of it’s full time care facilities, and guess where these patients went? Transglobe. Without any medical care. These people are loose in the low income housing system, subsidised to freely spread their madness. Basketball on the wall at 2am you say? Perfectly normal. Tortured screaming, security guards and lots of blood? Bring it on, why we can’t get enough of that here in this paradise.
It is funny, because I know both classes very well. The upper classes just cannot see this stuff at all, it looks like insanity (and probably is from their perspective) but it is the reality of our world. I hate that “hood” attitude people throw, but I totally understand it. On this side you feel like you want to go to war.
I agree with the OP that small women do make one fuck of a noise when walking indoors barefoot. Unbelievable!
I have a s-i-l who is about 100 lbs yet can hear this waif walking around in an 8000 sq. ft. house when I require a freaking map to locate the fucking kitchen! Fuck, on a calm night I swear I can hear her footsteps from the other coast.
Have you lived in a concrete building, OP? I live in one now and I’d NEVER go back to wood buildings because I hear fuck all here. Only thing I’ll ever hear is maybe the toilet flushing from above when I’m in the bathroom, myself. Last building I lived in was wood and I could hear the old man above me pissing when I was on the other side of the unit.
Oh I’ve lived in units where you can hear everything. Every little slobber, lick, fart, turd drop, insertion or whatever personal intimate noise from other bodies that you do not want to hear. (Prince Matthew’s “Palace” on Hollis)
The steel stud walls are to blame in the new buildings. They use 3/8th” gyprock and paper thin steel and no insulation or vapour barrier. I have no idea how this shit makes code.
I got a unit in a concrete box basement building once. Concrete walls, floor and ceiling. (Bell Brothers building built in ’68) The woman above me could shake the concrete building. She effectively woke at least three other tenants up every night between one and two am. One of the other tenants that she woke up regularly would then scream obscenities for hours afterward. I called the cops on them both. The cops cannot do anything. They are useless.
It is a pretty good scam actually, if you want to drive other people out of your building just make short loud random noises every few hours to prevent your neighbors from sleeping. Humans need sleep. They will leave eventually.
It is war out here.
Oh while I’m at it: Twin Cities PRoperties management does not adhere to the tenancies act. They allowed a 16 yeear old alcholoic to drive me out of my last apartment. See the tenancies act specifies that the landlord MUST provide a place that the tenant can rest. Sleep deprivation is not included in the definition of rest. Twin Cities could not do that. I told them each month as I complained in person that I would be leaving and that I would be looking for all of my rent back. So I left then they demanded $7500 for the next years rent, that they were not entitled to. They feared that the tenancies board would award in my favour and require them to return my last years rent because they could not provide a place where I could rest.
I should have fought that battle. I would have won and would be $7500 up. But I am so tired of this shit. So, just stay away from Twin Cities Property Management (AKA Parkhill/SAPP Proerties)
The only way to make it workable now is to rent from a long-standing respected member of the community. An individual. Someone who belongs to the community, has ties and responsibilities and a sense of honour. There a few people like that left.
curse you for making me look up what “efficacy” means….
It is a good word, though I didn’t use it very well (in a rather redundant fashion).
…and today the 5am pisser wakes me up! I am so tired of being forced to know my female neighbors pee schedules. At least this one only pees once at 5am. The last one peed at 1-2am and at 4-5am.
Can’t you all just wear diapers to bed? Or sleep with a catheter and bag or something?
I think it just dawned on me why women are so mean and cranky. None of them have ever slept a full night in their lives. Perhaps the stomping and slamming is a result of lost coordination due to fatigue from sleep deprivation?
I have long argued that we should embrace genetic engineering (as we are doing it through sexual selection anyway in a pretty mindless manner). This would be a perfect case of improving the human quality of life through genetic engineering. (we are almost ready for the coding)
So, geneticists, one larger stronger bladder for women and the future peace of man. On the double! The benefits of such a small change would be immense. I bet some wars would come to an end, some diseases would disappear.. and end to poverty? The possibilities of a world free from the limitations of the female bladder would be limitless. Just think of it! This is probably something we can really do to make the world a better place.
you can always modify them to have no appendix from birth and use that space for the new, bigger bladder…
wait, why am I telling you all this?!?!? I should be headed off to patent that idea and head into the lab…
OR… and this is a big one…
you can turn a fan on and get some ambient noise to detract from the sharp thuds.
That I already do. Have the loudest fan I could find. Run it 24/7. I wear over the ear headphones all the time. But the footstomping and door slamming still awakes me whenever I try to sleep.
I was thinking of building a device that mimics door slamming a foot stomping and just set it to go off at random intervals constantly – like anywhere from every 2 – 25 minutes. So that this kind of noise then becomes white noise to my ear and would be more easily ignored.
That is probably the best solution. I imagine it would also annoy the fuck out of the human foot stompers and door slammers. They could not compete with a tireless mechanical device for attention.
Let me see… one rotary electric motor driving a disk and heel like bumps hitting the floor to simulate foot stomping and another motor to repeatedly lift and drop a heavy mass to simulate door slamming. Nah, I don’t think the disk could apply enough force, I think it might have to be all timed lifts and drops of various padded and unpadded weights.
you sounds like you’re building a Rube Goldberg contraption….
you might as well have it start breakfast for you if you’re going to build that…
I’m not sure how earplugs aren’t doing the trick though… I used them when on night shift to sleep through construction while they were tearing down that old infirmary AND simultaneously working on the parkade in the building.
I think you need to take a fork to your ears for a good night’s sleep.
or move… your call.
I am very tempted to say, if the ear plugs aren’t turning the noise down, maybe the sound is coming from within.
a tell tale heart perhaps?
Interesting theory, but if I am imagining the walls and floor shaking (which earplugs do nothing for) then it is likely that my entire world is a fabrication of my ego. (It of course can be argued that this is true for everyone)
I just don’t understand why women have to be such cruel controlling power hungry hateful beasts, I mean is it really necessary to fill the world with all this hate and misery? Hell I don’t want them to like me, I just want them to stop abusing men and making the world a generally hostile place.
oh geez…
are you setting someone up for some knight in shining armor to decry how women are lovely and graceful and you should just put a sock in it?
cause you’re building a case…
what freakin world do you inhabit mr. hand? doesn’t sound much like mine. confused rawk
Nope, just reporting experience. Freaky as it sounds it is all real. I think women need to hear it. All to often men are demonised as violent and evil. Well I’m here to tell you that in my life experience men are kind gentle and understanding, while women are agressive, cruel and controlling.
Paingirl, I inhabit the low income rental world. Where this is the the reality of life.
The upper classes are strongly affected as well. Watch the men in public with their wives. Watch carefully, like you were observing wildlife.
Does anybody wonder why dog obedience is such an issue these days where it never used to be? The answer in this context should be obvious.
I often wonder if the whole foot stomping and door slamming routine all these women do is to punish me for my freedom and dignity. Since they cannot control me directly they will just make my living environment miserable.
One day men will be free from this oppression. I’m serious.
you’re seriously delusional…
how do you get to disobedient dogs in this post???
dude, you’ve got to be just trying to wind us all up… and considering there are far more females on here than males, you’re likely to have done a good job.
well, good luck anyway with something…it’s otay zZz i don’t have a windup key
Delusion. OK. Sure. Here, I’ll connect the dots for you.
Lack of clearly defined roles and leadership in modern couples. The dog is understandably confused and assumes the leadership role. The humans are unsatisfied with their animal’s behaviour and cannot see why it is acting out. I’m not saying who has to be leader to the dog, there just has to be one.
It is not much of a jump there folks. It is the same issue. Aggression and dominance.
I don’t want to wind anybody up, if anything hit their guilt buttons. This shit is really happening. What these loud women are doing is severely adversely affecting the quality of life of men. Reducing the quality of life in rental housing for all.
I can only imagine how many late night fights and murders have been initiated by female footstomping and door slamming. I guarantee the numbers are significant. They won’t do the fighting or killing themselves mind you.
I want to open eyes. If women really consider themselves to be humane creatures and set the standard of civility, well then they need to know the damage that these footstompers and door slammers are doing. Every time a woman slams a door or stomps her feet, there is a man in the next apartment cringing, or being woken up and the heroes of women’s liberation are weeping softly.
How does it help the world to add aggression? I thought women were supposed to be the fairer sex? I was taught that people are equals. Why should one group consistently, literally torture another with no legal or moral ramifications whatsoever?
If I built my foot stomping / door slamming machine I guarantee the cops would be at the door and laying charges. Yet, they will never touch the foot stompers and door slammers, no matter how much they disturb their neighbors. I think the cops are afraid of them. They probably all have one at home and are well trained.
So:
Footstompers and doorslammers, what you are doing is cruel and mean. (In case you cannot see that) You are severely damaging the reputation of all women. You are losing the ground that was fought so hard to gain. What you are doing is self-destructive. Not only the physical damage you cause to yourself and the places you live in, but the level of respect that men have for you overall. Foot stomping and door slamming is very childish.
Maybe a lot of these people did not grow up in rental housing and are unaware of the basic etiquette in rental situations that helps preserve the sanity of all?
THINK about what you are doing. THINK about how you move. You only have one body for this life, make the most of it, it is a powerful tool and a miraculous gift, please do not use it to do harm to others.
Oldhand….you sound absolutely insane. The people below me bother me with all their noise and I’m a woman. That puts a hole in your ‘logic’ right there. How do you know it’s only women being loud? Whenever I’m in an apartment, I obsess over if I’m being too loud and walk slowly so I don’t make too much noise, even though the people below me are rhinos. There is a group of young guys that live a couple houses down and I can hear their crazy parties from here, often. Not one is a woman. What’s with people lately generalizing everything? “Oh, you’re a woman? You’re the only people on this earth that are loud in apartments” “You’re from NS? You burn crosses on people’s lawns”. Anyone who honestly believes everyone from a certain place or background or gender are all the exact same ARE delusional.
OK, so my reality according to you is a delusion. Fine.
But I think I have figured it out. It is rape. I say no, please stop, and it continues unabated and I am helpless to stop it and calling for help is a much a sentence as it is rescue.
More accurately rape attrition. The thing is I do not understand why I am being punished. I have never raped anyone or forced anyone to do anything (sexual or not). Perhaps as a free and independent male I represent the right target to lash out at.
From what I understand rape is a pretty common thing… actually let’s go look it up (I’m sure I’ll be horrified)…
OMFG… we are world leaders in rape, right behind South Africa and the United States. Wow. Canada does not seem like such a nice place anymore.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Hmm, it is a given that rape statistics are underestimated due to reporting rates, and since some surveys indicate that as many as one in six American women has been raped, I am duly horrified at what the real numbers must be. God help us and save us.
OK so I can only conlude that is where all this agression comes from. It must come from somewhere.
Someone has to break the chains and open the world to forgiveness or all this hate will surely consume us.
I will take the blame. It is all my fault, lash out at me. Hate me, assault me. Make me the target of your repressed rage. Let it all out. I will live for their sins.
(Go ahead with the pre-requisite pop-psych analysis and dressing down, it is part of the routine, if it will help make you feel better it is OK. It seems that is what I am here for.)
hmmm, want some ribs?
*correction: we are second only to South Africa!
Holy fuck! I mean really, holy fuck! Er rather, unholy fuck!
Even if that is a reporting statistical artefact, it still paints a pretty bad picture. I makes me sad.
We need to do something. This can’t be unrelated to how upset I am by female aggression and how it seems to pervade my life. I can’t help but see it.
Maybe is was a tell-tale heart? Just not mine.
I hereby resolve to do something positive about it. I have no idea what that might be, but clearly, something has to be done. I mean seriously, we’re on the verge of being able to make sex-bots and have more sex toys than there are stars in the sky and rape is still a problem? WTF? I don’t get it.
Maybe we really do eat too much beef?
pork, the other white verb
oldhand, you remind me of the game minesweeper. If we step on the right place, we uncover more of your thought process. If we step on the wrong place, you explode and blow everything up. But I like to step on the wrong place from time to time on purpose, just so I can finish playing the game and move on.
“Pork – the other white verb” Well thank you very much Paingirl. Because of you a hipster dufus looking for Burroughs has instead found a double nasal shot of Starbux infused catarrh directed his way from moi. Which is pretty much what he deserves.
a thousand apologies colonel, and you’re back at work already? i’m just trying to cheer up mr. hand…oh well, the ribs are almost gone but the beer is cold. i had all 5 corbies lined up on the fence this morn, and they’ve started following me to the shop. happy rawk
I was only on vacation from the gulag and I return monday morn. The saturday job is more of a hobby and I’ve only missed 3 days in about 8 years. White Juan, a fucked up back and when SOBova gave birth to a bouncing baby gallbladder. I was going to ask you to send some ribs down my way, but I guess I’ll just have to content myself with hopping about, flapping my wings and looking for carrion. Rawk, Rawk, Rawk.
just leaving the shop, ribs are gone, suds are gone…going home to feed all my black beauties^^
It’s been such a slow day I’ve been reduced to defacing American $5.00 bills. Honest Abe now has a bullet hole in his forehead and a voice balloon that reads “Worst play ever.” A couple of weeks ago I turned the Wifrid Lauriers on 2 Cdn fivers into Spock and Alternate Universe Evil Spock (with goatee). Jebus, I AM juvenile.
Ribs – go big or go home. I’m talking Fred Flintstone drive-in sized ribs here. Marinate 12 hours, slow cook four to six hours. Use a sugar based cure. The animal deserves no less respect. Yum!
I’ve been thinking about it, and with all dramatic-effect-Jesus-complexes aside, I think I really seriously need to do something about rape. We need less hurt in the world.
I think, like others perhaps, that we are too focused on criminal “justice” and not enough on victim care and healing. I think part of the issue, as I mentioned, is that calling for help (reporting) can be as much of a sentence as it is a rescue. We need to fix that. Now.
I think “safe places” instead of just “safe houses” are in order. Safe communities. Build outward. Bryony house has and does this community an invaluable service. It should be a whole community campus devoted to healing. Not just a house here, a house there. Several of my friends in one of my many schools were at one time or another residents of Bryony house with their mothers. We just kept on being kids. (It is amazing how resilient children are). I know, Bryony House is for victims of domestic abuse, not rape victims, but we’re in the same ballpark and I hope you can see where I’m going with the campus or community idea.
With regard to offenders I don’t think there is any reliable way to fix it after it is done. We need to create a culture and environment where it just can’t happen in the first place. (Think big and work down, lower the bar only when you have to.) There is a task. Short of thought police, there is no obviously effective way to remediate.
Ah maybe this is the place for genetic engineering? Wouldn’t it be nice if there was a rapist gene we could just snip… slippery slope though. Education, that has to be it. More and better education. But not the traditional kind. Something raw and real, not graphic and demonstrative, but something to really slam the point home. Maybe the prisoner experiment could be resurrected in a new form? (again, a slippery slope though)
Heck, even if it comes down to engineering. (like cattle feedlots and slaughterhouses) Use human behaviour to control human behaviour. A little scary again, but safer community/urban design could not hurt. Not in a padded corners nanny-state fashion, but stuff based on real behavioural and occupational science.
So how do I help? I’m a fountain of ideas, but only a trickle of funding and organisation. Maybe I should start small and do something like ask Bryony House how I can help their next fundraiser, if they would have me. Maybe I can help prepare a new property? I guess we almost surely need the money for it. I guess I can investigate the Health Care community and see if there are any “think-tanks” on this kind of thing. If there aren’t then there damn well should be.
Just think if no one were ever raped (concomitant with the absence of what drives people to rape) how much less aggression, fear and hate would be in the world. Set the bar high, think big. Take small steps. Utopian, but what is wrong with such a vision?
I think I’ve found my real purpose. I don’t think we can get any further as a species until we get this out of the way. All this hate and aggression is stunting humanity. (thank you, Captain Obvious) Everybody stop. Ask yourself why is this happening? How can I help?
Sounds like you live in a stable. Are there any fat cows there too?
so are you going to found the R.A.P.E
Rape
Abuse
Program
Ensemble?
Mostly women
But also juvenile minded hyperactive angry men.
It’s a lack of self control self discipline self awareness, maturity & wisdom.
What these folks need to experience is the same done onto them but before they wake up n after these settled into bed so that they can develop the full first hand experience….even then it’s unlikely they’ll readjust themselves.
A vicious yelling will certainly change their attitude. At least it did to my mom n aunts when my old man finally got fed up n gave them a brutal verbal moment of clarity.
These are very feminine traits regardless of gender, mindless careless uncivilized undisciplined though less behavior that was learned due to lack of parenting & discipline.
What is the difference between the behavior of a zoo animal and a juvenile minded stomper/door slammer?? The zoo animal can actually be tamed through teaching & rewarding