Went away for the weekend—came home to find out that yet ANOTHER person has been shot in Halifax. Back to work today and saw one, two, THREE sets of cops sitting on their asses in their cars in the south end, lurking to pick up speeders. Meanwhile, the guy who shot up the Eaton Centre last week was already caught. Think maybe it was because TO cops are actually, you know, doing their job? —Speed Ain’t The Only Thing That Kills
This article appears in May 31 – Jun 6, 2012.
Hey there, McGruff. Those 3 sets of cops you saw, “sitting on their asses in their cars in the south end, lurking to pick up speeders”? They’re Traffic Division. They WERE doing their jobs, so STFU. The Ident squad processes the crime scene and the Homicide division investigates the murder. And the only reason the guy who shot up the Eatons Centre was caught already was because he turned himself in, fuckstick!
Oh but you know, this random person thinks he/she knows how the cops should be doing their jobs because he/she probably thinks he/she is entitled to tell them so because he/she pays for their wages through tax dollars.
I think we can still agree though…
this place resembles a brazen shooting gallery and the masses are a little worried.
can we order more of those bulletproof guardian angels?
or hells angels…
or charlie’s angels…
SOMETHING?
ANYTHING?
We’ll get you one of these zZz…
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It’s bullet proof, and it’ll stand up to a hand held grenade. Or you could just keep a Bible in your breast pocket and hope that’s where they shoot
I was just thinking of befriending this dude..
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“And the only reason the guy who shot up the Eatons Centre was caught already was because he turned himself in, fuckstick!”
Oh vastie. You get me all hot and bothered when you use such language 😉
That’s SAAWEET Captain!! An armoured SmartCar!!! I particularly like the openings for returning fire.
Gone are the days of big, behemoth, gas-guzzling tanks and armoured vehicles. The environmentally conscious hipster army of today has made the switch to smaller, bio-diesel armoured cars that leave a smaller carbon footprint and fire biodegradable frozen fruit as ammo. And it has a cup holder for your fair trade, half caff mocha latte with non-dairy creamer. War is hell! FFS!
lol @ kitty. Wow, doesn’t take much, eh? lol (I kid, I kid)
Giggety! 😉
I know, right? Unfortunately Zed’s drive-thru tank totally trumped my environmentally friendly war-machine.
Were you referring to one of these?
http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/iaapa15…
It fires rainbows, and has a top mounted sling-shot
There’s no money in stopping crime, or being proactive about it. There is money in speeding tickets and traffic fines, that’s why their largest resource is wasted on “uniform cars” patrolling law abiding citizens.
Typical SHITTY comment.
DOWN WITH THE MAN!
*eyeroll*
“DOWN WITH THE MAN!”
“DOWN WITH THE MAN!”
“DOWN WIT… Oh, sorry. I thought you were starting a chant. I get a little carried away sometimes.
Typical PK comment. All yap, yap, yap, emotional response with no actual thought or fact. Criticism drives change, why should I look at everything the way you do? Who’s to say I’m not right? You? Where’s your typical third hand “personal” anecdote (usually some blatant stereotype) to back up your claim?
Stevie+Kitty=hatefuck. Get er done.
So your proposed solution to curbing gun violence is to let traffic cops investigate homicides? Really? The answer to solving homicides is not to put every cop on the force on the case, it’s to put the best we have on the case. There is an alarming number of unsolved murders in HRM over the past few years, and maybe police could be doing a better job but this bitch is just ridiculous.
If I was their mother i’d box their ears and tie them back to back until they started cooperating
Furious Styles — I’m not into fucking children, so no on the hatefuck thing.
Yes, because it’s not like they already know where people are going to speed, or that the mall was filled with security cameras and witnesses who definitely wanted to tell the popo who it was who fucking shot them, instead of refusing to cooperate. Exactly the same sort of situation.
Stephen: First off, let me start by saying I’m not trying to pick a fight or get caught up in a verbal shit slinging match. What I’m about to ask you is genuine and because I am sincerely curious: In this particular crime (shooting in Clayton Park), how would you have been proactive in trying to prevent it? Where/how would you spend the money you claim is being ‘wasted’ on uniform cars to either solve this crime quicker or to prevent it from happening in the first place? (And I’m talking at the municipal level. I’m removing the closure of the regional RCMP forensics labs from the equation)
The weapons being used in the majority of the latest rash of shootings are prohibited or restricted, and criminals being criminals, they’re going to get their hands on these illegal/restricted weapons regardless. (that’s why they’re criminals) So, I’m not sure what more could be done at a municipal or even provincial level to reduce the amount of weapons on the street.
Apparently, this latest victim knew that he was being targeted and had a feeling that something was going to happen. Ok, fine, but the police don’t know this so, that can hardly be pinned on them either. If he or his friends/family knew there was a possible attempt on his life, then he/they probably should have notified the cops at that time.
If someone gets a speeding ticket or a traffic fine, then how could they be considered a law abiding citizen? They broke the law. They got caught. I would argue that by police handing out tickets for speeding and other traffic infractions, they ARE being proactive at stopping crime. Now, while a speeder is in no way of the same calibre a criminal as the person who pulls a trigger on someone, they technically ARE committing a crime and while it’s not a violent crime, if this speeder ends up killing someone, it’s no less devestating, senseless and tragic. The only difference being that it probably wasn’t pre-meditated. Should HRPD then take their traffic cops off the roads and highways and put them on the investigating teams? At what consequence(s)? I don’t think that this is the answer. There would be a prohibitive cost in installing automated traffic cams, so that wouldn’t work either.
Aside from putting more of a police presence, (either uniformed or under cover, cars or beat cops) in the ‘hot spots’ around the city, (which, personally, I would NOT consider Clayton Park to be), and perhaps the installation of more CCTV, (all of which would probably mean higher taxes), I don’t know what more could be done.
And while it’s easy to say that there’s more police patrolling the streets and highways because it’s more lucrative monetarily, I personally don’t think that’s the sole reason. Just my opinion.
stop fighting and watch this.
http://jezebel.com/5916095/teeny-tiny-pig-…
Hope some HRM police read this thread in case they’re feeling at all discouraged or frustrated by the increased random gunfire and appalling murder rate.
It’s totally okay, fellas! We know there’s nothing you can do about it! And we’re all super-supportive of your choice to deploy your traffic units in the south end on a daily basis. It’s just such a wise decision about where to place visible police cars in our city right now. And really, how much can you actually do to address the rise in violent crime? You’re only the police, after all, whose job it is to serve and prot–
Oh, wait.
well you know what o.p., why not don a mask and cape. and get the fuck off your ass and fight crime then. it’s a well known fact, that no one gets killed in a moving, speeding vehicle. if they did, then there would be a lot of cars off in the ditches.
the cops are here and there, as per their duty roster, and they don’t make the rules, the captain and watch commander usually does. or that’s the way it used to be when i was in the t.o. cop shop.
who cares! Beep is back yayyyyyyyyyyy!
haha, you and mr blue are over the moon
Let He who is without sin or doughnuts cast the first stone.
jebus, have you been in a tryptophan coma? peas
The passage of time means something different to someone who sustains the entire shiny ‘verse as only one among many similar thoughts paingirl.
I would say there is money in stopping crime. Crime drives down property values, costs the taxpayers to warehouse the criminals, not to mention court costs etc. As far as traffic cops are concerned, they usually set up where there there has been issues with speeding. Tickets and fines don’t go into the cop’s pockets but into the city coffers. Do they have incentives to ticket? I have no idea. I hope not.
What brought pigs to mind Zed? Hmmm?
Toronto shooter turned himself in.
matthew^^are you acquainted with christ the redeemer. he likes short shorts too
Well avast, I’m not sure how to clean up the streets but there has to be a better way than what’s being done now. If the status quo doesn’t work, something has to change.
My question is: how hard is it for the cops to figure out who’s doing the shooting? Most of these people are known to police to begin with, and likely affiliated with one “gang” or another. I can’t drive 5 blocks without passing or sighting a “uniform” car, they’re fucking everywhere. If I’m seeing them all over the city in relatively normal neighborhoods, that must mean they aren’t concentrating their resources on high crime areas. Cops can’t be there to stop everything all the time, but even a broken clock gets lucky twice a day.
Now I hear they are stepping up police presence in the downtown area to curb drunken assaults, and will now be pressing charges even if neither party wants them applied. If they can justify this action, you would think that a little harassment of real, “gun toting criminals” in their area of business would be an acceptable policy.
I agree with SHITD.
Its often all about the money !
IF they were really serious about the gangs & the gun play.
Take 20 speeder cops off the cash machine patrol & put them to work with the gang unit.
Even if they are new & green, it would for example allow more stake out cops, freeing up experienced gang cops to be in more area’s & they could be called by the stake out guy’s when a suspect(s) are spotted.
This is just an example, but if they’ve trained to be cops surely they can be trained to work the streets taking down criminals, as opposed to making our nanny state money.
I doubt it will happen under the current admin…the moneys just too damn sweet !
Parking ticket revenue in HRM alone over 200,000 tickets a year…not including the wonderful snow removal fines.
1.7 million in speeding tickets in 2010 in the Halifax area.
Does Beep taste like the OJ that has Donald Duck on the carton?
Today is Wednesday, y’all.
SHITD makes a good point. Why not increase police presence instead of increasing prison spending?
Also ignore PK, she’s a r’tard.
Jesus just made a Firefly reference. Life = made.
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Gonna be uncomfortable with all the sand in ShittyD’s vagine.
Just kidding, Shitty.
You know I loves ya!
Wp
fuckhate
They do have a larger police presence in the more crime oriented neighborhoods. I used to live in Highfield Park, once upon a time. There was usually a cop touring down every street, or parked in a school parking lot.
The problem, I feel, is that the criminals are too damn smart and organized. In the Park they started using fireworks at night to warn other gangs when cops were in the area. If a cop drove past a certain area, a firework would go off so everyone knew where the cops were patrolling. Fireworks aren’t illegal so it was an easy, effective, solution to avoiding being caught.
On top of that, Captain, a lot of high crime areas have ‘community offices’ for the coppers.
ANd I’d venture to say there are a lot more traffic infractions that aren’t punished than there are shootings and stabbings.
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“ANd I’d venture to say there are a lot more traffic infractions that aren’t punished than there are shootings and stabbings.”
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Well, unless a uniform comes across a murder in progress, he or she will NOT be investigating it, that belongs to Major Crimes. As previously said the Police Department (as most, if not all large organizations) is divided up into sections, each having its own responsibilities. Whether those three units were traffic or patrol, I don’t know. They could have been conducting radar (and if they weren’t there, people would be bitching about that) or they could have been writing reports (notice those laptops? They are used to write reports, etc) or they could have been fucking the dog. The point is we don’t know.
As for the guy in TO, he was going to get nailed anyway through the CCTV. Better to turn yourself in than having your place raided. You could have a cop on every single corner but that is NOT going to prevent someone murdering someone if they are bent on doing it.
OK, so as a non resident, may I respectfully point out some observations:
• the rise in violent crimes, especially hate crimes is alarming in HRM; 7 homicides this year—2 last week!
• The police report (on the HRM website) is about as bland and nondescript as you can get-today’s lead story is about giant headphones, from an advert has gone missing. “Given the size, it is believed that two or more people are responsible for the theft.” Meanwhile, John Newcombe’s death, is still unsolved. Last year, a series of swarming crimes was never revealed, denying citizens the knowledge of the increased risk.
• traffic patrol is a necessity, yes, but cruisers clustered together are not very efficient for their purpose of controlling traffic. It’s usually two cruisers ‘nose-tailing’ to chat that you see—what else would three clustered patrol cars be doing—did it look like a dragnet or something?
• Folks tend to cut cops a lot more slack than other civil servants (like, say, teachers) and it’s understandable why: one may save your life one day. That does not, however mean that their actions should be above scrutiny.
More cops is not the answer.
Eh, I’m just pointing out that one could say not enough resources are being directed towards that given the stats.
And I don’t necessarily think traffic cops busting people for ‘money’ is necessarily a bad thing. The city provides services that aren’t going to pay for themselves, and I’d much rather have more traffic tickets given out and have a central library built than less tickets and no central library. THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE THOUGH — IT DOES NOT ENCOMPASS EVERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO. <-- read that a few times to process it, SHITTY. I know you're a bit slow on the uptake.
” Folks tend to cut cops a lot more slack than other civil servants (like, say, teachers) and it’s understandable why: one may save your life one day. That does not, however mean that their actions should be above scrutiny.”
Police are generally always under scrutiny by the public due the current culture of social unrest when faced with any sort of scandal/issue involving people of power.
Teachers are pretty much ignored unless they are fucking students, denying the holocaust, or giving kids zeros (hurr durr most idiotic thing I’ve read in the news in a long time).
that was funny zilla, we’re not allowed to fail students. school boards are for dummies
Yeah! Why can’t a kid get a zero? Is it the new form of Bullying? Reality Bullying strikes again!
^
Calling someone childish, and then acting just as (if not more) childish accomplishes absolutely nothing.
Except maybe looking kinda stupid?
Well… traffic tickets should not enter into the budget. These entries in the accounts reveivable portion of the ledger should be completely separate from the budget, as it stands right now, it part of the budget. The powers that be count on that income and will designate their funding to get the best return on investment. I think you all believe that the chief of police actually has some power. That (chief of police) is a political appointment, and is under the advisement of city council. If anyone thinks that “policing” is about anything but budgets and money, you have your heads in the sand. As long as it appears to the general public that they have things under control, then the status quo isn’t questioned. Right now, it appears that the police have lost control, and are losing the battle. If the government runs it, it will be inefficient and corrupt, that’s a guarantee!
You were doing so well PK, you were whipping up your usual unintelligible examples from some make believe alternate universe where PK is an actual authority on everything, then you resort to calling me “slow”. Keep up the good work, I hope it all works out for ya!!
They count on that revenue because shit costs money and last I heard (though you’ll probably contradict this just because I said it, SHITTY), Halifax hasn’t planted any money trees outside city hall as of yet. You have heard that the economy is in the shitter right now, right? Money’s tight. Traffic tickets bring in $$$.
Like I said, I’d rather have more traffic tickets handed out to those violating the law and have things like a new central library than not. We get a shiny new library and more fucktards who can’t obey traffic laws being punished (and hopefully persuaded to follow the rules of the road) in the process. I really don’t see why this is a bad thing.
And hay, if you don’t want to pay a traffic ticket, don’t disobey traffic laws. Simple as that. I’ve never gotten a traffic ticket, so if any traffic ticket money’s going to the library it just means more perks for me that I didn’t have to pay for.
PS: until you can grasp simple concepts, SHITTY, I’ll trust my authority over yours any day. 😉
LOL @ “hate crimes in Halifax.”
why is that funny?
Because it reminds me of people crying hate crime at an unfortunate incident that happened outside a gay bar before any information was released.