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Justin Trudeau aims to double the number of Syrian refugees, and he is on track to doubling the deficit, too. Here is my question: PM Trudeau, when are you going to double the pay out to veterans? We could use some help here, ya know. —All Shot Up
This article appears in Dec 24, 2015 – Jan 6, 2016.
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Yeah he wants to double down but woefully missed his 25,000 target and when he modified it to 10,000 he still missed it by half. As a veteran I have no doubt he will do nothing for us as well. People have once again fell for Liberal lies and a head of hair. The pain is just beginning and people have just not realized it.
I see the pro-Harper cronies are still pissy…
Fuckin politicians eh. Ya can’t win.
Still, I’d prefer a government that doesn’t do many of shitty things the conservatives did.
Lets hope PM Trudeau reads the bitch section so you can get your answer post haste.
Deficits are an outdated concept of fiscal responsibility. What should be measured is the debt servicing ratio principal+interest/GDP.
On the issue of veterans, I recall that the conservatives were no better. Several veterans groups participated in the “Anybody but Harper” campaign: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/08/17/ve…. The CPC closed nine regional VA offices. The LPC pledged to re-open these (granted, they have since modified their plan which now involves opening VA offices in areas that need them the most). The LPC also pledged $300 million per year in funding for veterans.
I suppose that Dear Leader’s fall from grace has caused so much emotional trauma that right-wingers can no longer distinguish between facts and ideology.
I would remind the liberal idiots on this comment section that a Liberal government sent our soldiers into Afghanistan in the first place and another Liberal government deployed them to the meat grinder of Khandahar Province. They have a deep moral responsibility to those veterans for sending them into harm’s way to pay off an old tab run up by yet another Liberal government who effectively dropped us out of NATO in the 70s and left us indebted with our allies.
The veterans got the shitty end of the stick as I recall from the conservative government who closed down many offices, cut much funding, and then ooops we found a billion dollars that was for the veterans but now that these things are already done lets use it for something else. Harper, eat shit and die already.
Great Value,
RE: moral responsibility: I’m curious to know what justifies governmental support to any veteran regardless of their combat experience, given that veterans are rational human beings who, knowing all the relevant risks involved, have accepted employment by the military in exchange for long-term training and a fairly respectable compensation package compared to what they would likely have been able to obtain in a civilian occupation. What makes a veteran so worthy of assistance in view of those facts? I understand that there may be a public health rational for giving services to veterans who suffer from PTSD and the like, but it seems that those supporting veteran causes do so for other reasons, yet it’s not clear to me whether those reasons justify favourable treatment. While the government sent certain soldiers into harm’s way, isn’t that part of their job description?
Veterans got the shitty end of the stick since before WWI.
Bro Tim: evidence?
I wonder how many people really know what a “veteran” is. I admit that I don’t. I mean, if you worked in the warehouse on the base in Germany for two weeks last year, does that make you a “veteran”?? Do you have to be fired upon?? Do you have to be a certain distance from a front line??
I wholeheartedly honour the soldiers of WW1 and WW11. Not sure who is a veteran.
Well let’s see. Both my grandfather served in WWI and both were injured. One grandfather got a new pair of orthopedic shoes once a year for trenchfoot and the other got an embarrassingly small pension (something like $20-30) and that was in the early 70’s. My mother who cashed one for him couldn’t believe how small it was. He saw combat at Vimy and Passchendaele. I’m not sure where some people get this Pollyanna ideas that our vets were treated so great in the past.
This is Veterans Affairs Canada definition of a veteran:
Any former member of the Canadian Armed Forces who successfully underwent basic training and is honourably released.
Great anecdotes. Anecdotes doused in emotional family history, no less. Not evidence.
Yes a family example but one that resonates. Remember those in the Merchant Marines weren’t even recognized until the end of the 1990s. Veterans have not been well served. Ask any of them. But then you could ask a 100, 1,000, or 10,000 and you would call them anecdotes.
100, 1,000, 10,000 are samples, i.e. collections of anecdotes. Much more robust as evidence than a single, emotional anecdote. Have you collected such a dataset?