Anyone else hate how post-secondary seems to be manufactured? Get in, get your degree, get out! No help with life or job acquisition skills. Just give us your money and if you don’t have the right amount of cultural or social capital than too bad for you. —Durk Weber

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  1. If you think getting a BA or BSc is going to get you a job in itself, you’re sorely mistaken, OP.

    Do a professional program and take co op. Co op will help you with the job acquisition skills and you’ll have 12 months of experience upon graduation.

    It’s not the universities’ fault that people are going and taking BAs and expecting a job afterwards. I have a BA so I know how utterly useless it is when it comes to finding work. My professional studies degrees are what got me work after graduation. *shrug*

  2. yep, in every city or town that has a college, they’ll turn out more and more morons every year.

  3. Yeah, I hate it too. I think we make kids go to university too early- I wasn’t 18 yet when I was applying for universities and student loans. I think more kids should take a gap year to grow up a bit, make some cash, and maybe (but probably still not) figure out what they want to do the rest of their lives. for these reasons, I think it should be harder to get into uni in the first place- I’m from a small town and the guidance councillor just told people that they “had” to go to university and they had to go now or they wouldn’t get bursaries. The 100 bucks I got from whatever local business in my hometown didn’t do me a lot of good in the long run.

  4. Post-secondary institutions are not there to provide job acquisition skills or be a life coach! WTF? Where did you think this was part of any program?

    This b!tch reminds me of those ne’er do-well parents who have the television babysit the child all day and wonder why the child cannot read or count when they get to kindergarten or primary………this sh!t is not the responsibility of the education system it is to be learned at home! ~ Of course, hard to do that sh!t with illiterates…….but that is another b!tch

  5. Myyy goodness. I’m so sick of shit attitude from students. They expect money for school and jobs to just be given to them. The government just keeps giving them more and more but they still complain. I agree with jgoreham. I have taken a few years off after high school to figure out what the heck I’m going to do while making sweet moola at a full time job. I have changed my mind like 5 times since I even started high school. I think I pretty much know now what I want to do. All the while, not wasting thousands of dollars and racking up enormous debt. I make more than most of my friends who have degrees, some who have a couple of degrees. In the long term, I’m sure they’ll be making lots, but it just seems like a backwards way to go about getting education, to take on all this debt before you even really have a plan for your life or even know what kind of job you will be able to get right out of university, just because going to university right out of high school has become the norm. I can’t wait to get back to school! And I’ll be able to pay for it and not have to bitch at the government or take on massive loans. I can’t stand when I hear current students complain about homework and getting up early or whatever. You’re lucky you can even call yourself a student!

  6. And some of us know what we want to do and it includes going to university right after high school.

    Kudos to everyone who wants to work and wait, but I had no desire to work at a crappy full time job (because really, what kind of job can you get right out of high school?) and go to school later on. I wanted to get it done and overwith.

    I don’t even care about the fact that I had student loans, to be honest. I’ve never been one to bitch about tuition and money because I always got what I needed. Believe it or not, some of us don’t regret going to uni out of HS and getting student loans to do so.

  7. I have three degrees and work in an office. I still wish I’d become an electrician. Then, maybe, I’d have a real income.

  8. That’s what my dad says, Fool on the Hill. He says that if I had’ve decided to be a plumber I’d make lotsa $$$.

    I have three degrees too, and I work in an office too. And after taxes and loans…. AHAHA.

    Doesn’t stop me from buying expensive things though. Not on credit either. I save what I can and when I have enough built up I buy my large ticket item. Next purchases? Ipod touch and a lovely coach purse 😀

  9. OH, WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN?

    Thank you for the invitation Election Ivan (11:25AM)! Montrealman will be delighted to answer that door!

    It is, as usual, with a heavy heart that Montrealman takes up the burden once again. “Durk Weber” moans that university offers him “no help with life or job acquisition skills.” Allow me.

    First, Durk, distinguish sharply between education and training. University is for the former but – are you listening Durk? – never for the latter. That is called training. But, Durk, you are not alone. Everyone on this thread drags in the money issue, even those who boast that they have three degrees. (One wonders what they have their degrees in.) Durk, adopt an aristocratic view of university. You are there to engage in the Great Conversation of Life. Forget the plebian infatuation with “job skills.” Forget the jobs, forget the money. They will come of their own accord but, Durk, if you prematurely concentrated upon them they will poison your university career. Mark my words, Durk. Think of your mind, Durk, only of your mind!

    When you refer to “life,” Durk, I assume you’re not talking about “life skills.” There is no such thing, Durk. Life is not a matter of any “skill” acquisition. Indeed, to view life in that light is precisely a corruption of life. Read the Classics, Durk, which provides life with its vitality! Take History which bestows context on life and in terms of which it derives its meaning. Most of all, Durk, take Philosophy, a subject devoted to the life of the mind! Without Philosophy, Durk, you are as a wandering soul, forever without an home! Listen to me Durk!

    Was that okay, Ivan?

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

    P.S. Ignore any response to this post from “The Parasite” who has no mind. He is without internal resources. He lives by feeding off the thought of others. That is why he is called “The Parasite.”

  10. Like my gorge you rose admirably to the occasion MM. We have to see about getting some form of signal like the one that Commissioner Gordon used to summon Batman. Save you the effort of having to troll through the dross. Any idears fellow Bitchers?

  11. OP, just a number, just a number. But on a good note, you’ll score a sweet good paying job when you’re done.

  12. COMMISSIONER GORDON’S SIGNAL

    Ivan (5:05PM) writes, “We have to see about getting some form of signal like the one that Commissioner Gordon used to summon Batman.”

    One looks, of course, with incredulity at Ivan’s impoverished reference. A “signal that Commissioner Gordon used to summon Batman?” My God, am I in the schoolyard playground again?

    I’m having second thoughts about you Ivan, none of which are very good.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

    P.S. The Parasite (aka Hugo Phurst) adds his usual mindless cartoon which of course, is par for the course given the fact that he is, after all, mindless. This time there is a whiff of bestiality which I’m sure he finds knee-slappingly hilarious. What a cretin.

  13. I wasn’t putting down all students, like yourself PK, just the bad ones :)! If you know what you want to do right out of high school and take on debt but do well with your life and get a good job after it all, then that’s awesome! But I know that there are a lot of people that feel forced into going to university because their friends are going and their parents want them to, and then they end up with a degree (maybe) they don’t know if they really wanted/needed and debt and a lot of time wasted. I was just expressing my anger toward people that have made comments to me about how I’m “lazy” and a “slacker” because I haven’t gone to university like they have. Meanwhile, they are still working in the same retail shit show they’ve been working at for like the past 5-6 years, making crap money, with TWO degrees and no career to show for them. I’m going about my education a different way and hate to be called a “slacker” for it.

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