I still hate you. I’m still watching. I’m still making a list of all the ways that you are a disappointment, and it’s ever-growing. Please don’t destroy my country beyond repair. Better yet, just resign. I’ll bake you a thank you cake or something. Just GTFO ASAP. Srsly. —Socialism is the Only Way

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  1. to bad for all of you, because after four GLOURIOUS YEARS, people will see the amzing change in the country and reaclect him, mkay, so in four yesrs time, call,text, email me, and you will say wow, u were soooooooooooooooo right and now u own me 500 dollars Mate

  2. Okay, you web-linking rightwingers are making me laugh . . . but not in a good way.

  3. you can keep watching him every election too. he is now herr p.m. for life, or at least he wants it that way.

  4. First Talking Heads and now “Emotional Rescue” Damme Farmer Bob, you are the Wurlitzer of my misspent youth.
    Got any Clash in there? (Please – nothing from “Sandinista” >; )

  5. “DEAR PRIME MINISTER NO SOUL”

    : “I’m mking a list of all the ways that you are a disappointment, and it’s ever-growing.”

    Well, that’s nice. Now, tell us what’s on the list and why you find it so disappointing. Okay, just tell us ONE thing, but GIVE YOUR REASONS! Otherwise it’s just another empty, knee-jerk rant that one finds so often on this site. In case you’re floundering in your attempt to reply, here’s a couple starter questions:

    1. What do you mean by “soul?” What are you talking about? Can you demonstrate just how (put the name of your candidate here) HAS soul and Harper doesn’t? Don’t forget, give reasons, not just your empty opinions.

    2. What do you mean by “Socialism is the only way to go?” Are you a hard-line socialist ideologue? What kind of socialism are you talking about? Marxist socialism? National socialism? Pothead socialism? What are you talking about? Do you have any idea? That’s right, an IDEA, not a lot of hot blow.

    3. Now start on your list. We’re waiting.

    I realize it’s fashionable (in certain quarters) to Harper-bash but when the time comes to put it where your mouth is, there’s nary a peep. But now’s your chance. We don’t just want your opinions. We want evidence-based reasons. Now, put up or shut up.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  6. You wave the flag of REASON when it suits you, but for you it is a flag of convenience. Judging from some of your comments on this site, you are not a citizen of that land.

    I’m not going to dig up the evidence for you. It would end up being a fool’s errand. You would simply claim that your statements are, in reality, clever ploys to draw out internet stalkers or some such inanity. You claim a devotion to reason but instead of arguments you offer up word salad.

    Why pretend otherwise? Just as much as anyone here, you enjoy spouting opinions and bashing bitchers. Probably more so.

    You have finally found an online home – among the “red-neck strutters” of Halifax’s Underclass. Who would have thought?

  7. MM who are you and what did you do with the real MM? His post actually makes sense. Commandante, you make a vague statemen then refuse to back it up. But that’s typical of socialists, just like we in NS don’t pay the highest taxes and the most bloated government.

  8. RSVPs

    : The Lieutenant (2:39PM)

    1. The “Word Salad

    “You claim a devotion to reason but in instead of arguments you offer up word salad.”

    First of all, I wasn’t talking to you, you mutt. I was talking to “Socialism Is The Only Way To Go” but, as predicted, have heard nary a peep from him (or, as I suspect, her). Of course, in your usual bloated fashion you have also dodged my questions about the “soul” and the “types of socialism” I put to the Bitcher, but never mind. So, please get your fat, hairy face out of our (potential) conversation. My arguments might be a “word salad” to you, you buffoon, but for those with a mind their light shines forth with undiminished and illuminating brilliance.

    2. My Online Home

    “You have finally found an an online home – among the ‘redneck strutters’ of the Halifax Underclass. Who would have thought?”

    My home is not, as you seem to suppose, with the Redneck Strutters (of which, by the way, you are clearly one of the more obtuse and verbose members) but rather my home is located in the realm of the intellect from which I proceed to act as a scourge, a torment and a rebuke to them all.

    Now, you cretin, close the door when you leave. Do not write back.

    : Paingirl (3:01PM) – “Mr Farmer?” Well, maybe, if only because of the amount of bullshit he shovels.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  9. No Bro Tim,

    It only seems that way to you because he’s starting to sound like you. I don’t honestly know which of you should be more worried.

    Regarding the tax situation you mentioned, you are wrong once again. In fact, it is MM and his fellow Quebecers who pay the highest taxes in the country.

  10. But please Commandante, exactly which socialist/communist or whatever country works? Not communism Soviet style, the Iron Curtain fell, North Korea is a shambles, Cuba, while the people are great and the land (sans buildings/housing) is beautiful, it is an economic failure, and China is becoming more Capitalistic as the days go by. C’mon so where is this paradise? Quebecers may pay more taxes but they get a hell of a lot more services, so that throws your precious Steale and DD further down the toilet.

  11. Socialism has been used as a guise for military dictatorships in places just as the USSR, North Korea and China but Sweden comes to mind as place where Social-Democractic values have worked to the population’s betterment.
    Despite having the highest tax-rate in Europe, they have weathered the recent global recession the best among European countries. Haven’t we been hearing from the right side of the political spectrum that higher taxes are the death of economic recovery? Not in Sweden I guess.
    High taxes here in Nova Scotia are to maintain current services and service the provincial debt. The provincial debt, as it is, wasn’t created in the last three years by Darryl and company, it is part of a legacy created by previous governments as well as the current one.
    My problem with the Harper conservatives and right-wingers in general are that the policies and philosophies they endorse tend to help the most powerful and hurt the most vunerable. They talk about reducing corporate taxes but balk at increasing minimum wage. They fear any strong investment in curbing the causes of climate change but will subsidize the oil industry.
    Capitalism creates jobs and helps drive the economy but only works for the populous from top to bottom if it serves an elected government not if the government serves it. If a government subsidizes large corporations, any reduction to that subsidy (and revenue to the taxpayers) will result in threats of massive layoffs by the company or complete pullout.
    This imbalance in the government-corporate relationship can affect policy-making in areas such as labour standards and the environment.
    We’ll see what the next four years brings but I expect nothing more than the rich getting richer and an embarrassing environmental record.

  12. RSVPs

    :Dim Bro Tim (3:48PM) – “MM who are you and what did you do with the real MM?”

    Dim Bro, this is the real me. You’ve got to take it on faith since, as far as I can see, there’s no way I can prove to you that I’m me. (An interesting epistemological dilemma.) I explained the change in my pen name somewhere on another thread. It’s quite convoluted so I won’t bother now, mais je suis le vrai Montrealman.

    : troondonk 8:36PM – As a matter of fact, in spite of giving the Bitcher a cuff on the ear for his (her) empty Harper-trashing, I’m also to the left of center. Your thoughtful piece is a refreshing change from the usual one-line-and-a-cartoon diet, so thanks for the effort.

    However, like the Bitcher, you still deal in vague generalizations. For example, you state that your problem with the Harper government in particular and right-wing views in general is that the “policies and philosophies” they endorse “tend” to help the most powerful and hurt the most vulnerable. Now that’s good socialistic rhetoric but – you know what’s coming next, don’t you – you must demonstrate your claims and not simply assert them. What “policies and philosophies” did you have in mind? Just how do they “tend” to help the most powerful and hurt the most vulnerable?

    In respect to reducing corporate taxes – this is a favourite whipping boy for the left – the fact is that if corporate taxes are jscked up business will simply pass them along to the consumer so no one wins. In our system, you’ve got to keep business on side. This also applies to your (unfounded) criticism of capitalism in general where you claim that a reduction in government subsidies to corporations will result in massive layoffs or complete pull-out. You’ve got to show a specific cause-effect relationship, which you have not done.

    In respect to “climate change” itself, the jury is still out on its causes. Is it the result of greenhouse gases emitted by human activity or the result of naturally occuring climate activity? For the latter view, have a look at “Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, the Missing Science” (2009) by the renowned Australian climatologist Ian Plime (whose son, by the way, lives just down the road from me).

    I didn’t understand your sentence maintaining that capitalism “only works for the populous from top to bottom if it serves an elected government not if the government serves it.” I think you might mean that the Harper government serves capitalism rather than having capitalism serve the Harper government. Once again, this is an unsubstantiated (and probably an unsubstantiatable) claim.

    Finally, you write that, “The imbalance in the government-corporate relationship can affect policy-making in areas such as labour standards and the environment.” This is simply a re-statement of your previous claims and, of course, the same criticism applies – you have to DEMONSTRATE such an “imbalance” not simply assume it.

    Anyway, thanks again for your thoughtful post.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cherio!

  13. Yes it is a bat Paingirl. It’s called the Yoda bat for its resemblance to the Jedi master. It was discovered quite recently in an expedition to Papua-New Guinea along with over 200 new species of insects, birds and mammals. Cute isn’t it.

  14. “In respect to “climate change” itself, the jury is still out on its causes. Is it the result of greenhouse gases emitted by human activity or the result of naturally occuring climate activity? For the latter view, have a look at “Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, the Missing Science” (2009) by the renowned Australian climatologist Ian Plime (whose son, by the way, lives just down the road from me).”

    Actually, monsieur, Ian Plimer is a geologist not a climatologist and works for the mining industry. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any valid arguments but don’t call him a “renowned climatologist.”
    I believe you were looking a specific cause and effect relationship between government reduction of subsidies and the threat of layoffs. Look no further than south of the border where Obama, in his State of the Union address spoke of eliminating the $2.15 billion a year subsidy to Big Oil mostly for drilling purposes. What comes out the next day? Comstock financial analysts saying that the additional expenditures incurred resulting from the loss of the subsidy will result in layoffs of about 50,000 workers by 2014. Mainly in the already troubled Gulf coast area.
    Granted it wasn’t a press release from a large oil company but the numbers and area were specific, where did they get their info from?
    I’m not against Capitalism and I agree we must work to keep business on our side but it must be done in a social framework that’s fair to everybody.
    An example might be Troodon Enterprises wants to manufacture widgets in a town in northern Saskatchewan. In order to make these widgets, they must mine floxide (a made-up mineral) which has been found there. The company approaches various levels of government with a proposal to establish a floxide mine and manufacturing base which will create thousands of jobs and pump millions into the local economy. Great!
    However, 100 million will be needed for start up costs and the company wants half from the three levels of government. This plus the usual corporate tax breaks.
    However there’s a bill coming up for reading in the local legislature calling for rigorous environmental assessment in regards to mining.
    This a problem for the company as there will be significant runoff from the mine into the nearby river. The braintrusts involved agree that the economic benefits can’t be ignored, the mayor, MLA and MP will all get re-elected and the company doesn’t have to possibly incur fines. Just stay that legislation citing more “study” is needed.
    Ten years later, the bottom fell out of the widget market, Troodon Enterprises went belly up and so did the fish downstream from that mine. The jobs gained were lost and the fishery, which existed long before Troodon, is gone.
    This is an, albeit longwinded, example of how a deal might not fit in to the social framework of a given area. The money and power generated is seductive but maybe the “study” should have been into the viability of Troodon. This is also an example of business dictating to government affecting policy and policy-making.

  15. Ah yes the old Global Warming, now Climate Change (just waiting for the new name) and here it is May and a few days ago I was still wearing a winter coat. I’m still waiting for my palm trees.

  16. compared to some parts of the world, we live large…the sun is our master timothy

  17. The climate is changing Bro Tim, I don’t think anyone debates that. Whether or not, it is induced by human activity is the centre of the debate. Funny how mankind can divert entire rivers, make inlands seas disappear, create an island of trash the size of Texas in the middle of the Pacific but, nope, no way we can influence the climate.

  18. RSVPs

    :troondon4 (1:23PM) – an interesting reply which deserves closer scrutiny.

    – Ian Plimer was indeed not a “renowned climatologist” as I said but rather a geologist. I wrote my post from memory – it has been over a year since I read Plimer and, yes, now that you menton it, he was a geologist BUT his geology informed his views on climate in general and global warming in particular. Is there any part of his book that you want to dispute? I must say that found your reference to him “working for the mining industry” libellous. Can you demonstrate that he was and, in addition, that his work was tailored to the interests of the mining industry? Please do not quote from any “warmist” sources.

    – You write that you are not against Capitalism but you state that corporate activity “must be done in a social framework that’s fair to everybody.” Well, of course, no one’s against that but the real question is, “What constitutes a fair social framework?” I found your attempts to answer this question unsatisfactory.

    – Your claim that I should “look no further than south of the border” misguided since (1) illustrations for Canada should be drawn from Canadian, not American sources where the framework – yes, the framework! – is different; (2) no direct cause-effect relationship was established between O’Bama’s State of the Union Address and the loss of corporate jobs you cited and (3) your speculation in respect to the loss of 50,000 jobs by 2014 “mainly in the troubled Gulf Coast area” was just that, speculation. (Of course, there was something else going on down there in the Gulf Coast area, wasn’t there?)

    – That you seem to have acquired a taste for speculation is borne out in your fictitious “Troodon Enterprises” example. You paint a melancholy picture of the “widget market going belly up,” the poisoning of the environment, and massive unemployment. Poor Saskatchewan! It seems you yourself are a bit uncomfortable with your own example when you write that it was a long-winded example of how a deal “MIGHT not fit into the social framework or a given area.” (Italics added.) But it seems we’re back where we started from, i.e.,
    “that social framework that’s fair to everybody.”

    Nice talking.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  19. troodon4,

    I don’t think you’ll make any headway in this but I applaud you for trying.

    I stopped “debating” climate change skeptics years ago. Most of the so-called “expert” dissenters that skeptics like to reference aren’t climate scientists at all, in other words, they don’t get papers published in peer reviewed climate science journals. Many of the well-known ones are funded by Big Oil.

    For years, their campaign focused on attacking atmospheric warming data. When the evidence became so overwhelming that this strategy made them look imbecilic, these same individuals changed tactics and now agree that the globe is warming but deny that humans have anything to do with it.

    Most people not familiar with scientific methodology don’t understand how a field like climatology deals with uncertainty. They erroneously interpret the provisional nature of some models as meaning that climate scientists don’t understand anything about atmospheric processes involving greenhouse gases like CO2.

    It’s the same with those who believe they are leveling a valid attack on the theory of evolution because “it’s just a theory so there is a good chance it’s wrong”. These people don’t understand what constitutes a well-established theory that is supported by a large body of facts.

    Bro Tim,

    The name of this problem wasn’t changed because somebody discovered that the globe wasn’t warming. It’s now an established fact that the globe is warming. The phenomenon is now generally referenced as climate change to more accurately reflect that, on regional scales, some parts of the globe may see cooling whilst still being embedded in the overall warming trend.

    The climate change problem offers one avenue into the heart of one of capitalism’s most important failures. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that “free market” capitalism contains within it no mechanism for solving the climate change problem. Aside from the challenge of identifying anything like an actual “free market” in the world today, we might ask ourselves, theoretically anyway, what makes a free market work? A “free market” theorist might say that incentives must exist that encourage the profit motive. If there is a way to employ capital to make a profit someone will do it. But what incentive is there in forgoing profits today so that unborn generations can have enough clean water to drink and clean air to breath? For a capitalist, there is no incentive whatsoever.

    Another feature of the capitalist system that makes it unlikely to successfully deal with the climate change problem is that the history of capitalism, by and large, has been one of privatizing wealth while socializing costs. Environmental pollution is a prime example of how companies burden the societies in which they operate with the costs that are rarely accounted for. Costs like contaminated water supplies or air so badly polluted that it damages the health of people in the surrounding community. Canada’s most infamous toxic waste site, the Sydney Tar ponds, is another example of how private entities make off with the profits of industry while the citizens pay to clean up the mess.

    Another local example is the collapse of the Atlantic fishery. The waters were fished beyond sustainability by fishermen from around the world, each seeking to maximize his profit while there were still fish to be had. Garret Hardin wrote an influential essay back in 1968 titled “The Tragedy of the Commons” which outlined just this type of destructive behaviour. Each individual seeks to maximize his own benefit from a common resource. Without some mechanism to ensure cooperation this strategy leads to rapid depletion of the common resource. This happened with the cod fishery and now there is no cod fishery.

    A capitalist might come along and try to sell you an air conditioner if your summers become unbearably hot, or sell you water piped in from the Great Lakes because your region has become a near-desert due to climate change, or sell you a rubber raft if climate change has brought you an annual monsoon in place of gentle spring rains.

    But a capitalist is incapable of arranging for industrial society to prevent climate change from happening in the first place. There is no mechanism in “free market” capitalism which is suitable to the task. The mechanisms that might be brought to bear are cooperative in nature, not competitive. They are things like “regulations” and “free market” capitalism seeks to have as few of those as possible.

  20. no arguments by my post, i win, no one had a bad thing to say, tku for all the grown up ones on here mate

  21. RSVPs

    :Troon4 (May 30, 1:23PM)

    – I’m still waiting Troon. Don’t keep us in suspense, boy, give us the goods. Tell us why Plime was a liar. Give grounds. Give us what we all should believe.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

    P.S. I hope you realized that all of the Lieutenant’s post was pure wind. Not a fact in all the hot-blow pile. But sadly, I suppose you (like the rest on this site) didn’t realize that.

  22. “Actually, monsieur, Ian Plimer is a geologist not a climatologist and works for the mining industry. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have any valid arguments but don’t call him a “renowned climatologist.””
    That’s a quote from myself monsieur, I never said Plimer was a liar. I haven’t read his book.

  23. MM,

    You have chosen poor ground on which to defend your skeptical stance towards the reality of anthropogenic climate change. Ian Plimer’s ideas on on the subject have been thoroughly discredited by various scientific organizations around the world but he has a certain popularity among those who believe that climate change is a conspiracy foisted on the world by overzealous environmentalists.

    For example, he has claimed that natural out-gassing from volcanoes puts far more CO2 into the atmosphere than human activity. This claim was debunked by the U.S. Geological Survey which has calculated that human emissions pump into the atmosphere over 130 times as much CO2 into the atmosphere as all the world’s volcanic activity.

    He is a geologist with large investments in Australia’s mining and coal industries and he has publicly stated that any kind of carbon tax would devastate Australia’s mining sector. He has an obvious stake in making the claim that whatever global warming can be detected is the result of natural processes.

    A scientific background isn’t an absolute requirement to understanding the broad outlines of the scientific evidence for climate change, but the ability to think carefully and sift through dubious claims is such a requirement. If you wish to continue flaunting your skepticism you will need to associate yourself with a better class of “thinker” than Ian Plimer.

  24. A SECULAR RELIGION

    “Actually, Monsieur, Ian Plimer is a geologist not a climatologist and works for the mining industry.” Troondon4 (May 29, 1:23PM)

    “Funny how mankind can divert entire rivers … but nope, no way can we influence climate change.” (Troondon4, May 29, 4:33PM)

    “I never said Plimer was a liar. I haven’t read his book.” (Troondon4, May 30 (9:30PM)

    Some credit the collapse of formal religious belief with the rise of what might be called “secular religion.” Whether or not this is the case – and who could possibly know? – the truth of anthropogenic global warming, in certain quarters at least, has assumed the position of religious orthodoxy. In old-time religion, of course, there were the “true believers” and then there were the “infidels,” those who lacked the true burning vision. But the method of attack employed by the former on the latter remain unchanged. With the secular true believers a moral fervour gives rise to a spluttering rage and that spluttering rage results hurling personal epithets of abuse at the infidel. Personal invective and insinuation are the preferred weapons of choice. The infidel is stupid, uninformed, simply malevolent, plotting the destruction of the world or worse, ignoring the inevitable cataclysm. The infidel must be rebuked. He must put aside his sneering skepticism and embrace the TRUTH! The sources of the infidel’s belief, of course, are counterfeit and their authors duplicitous. It is a struggle of beliefs, and the damned shall be cast down into the fiery pit!

    So we find Troondon4 (May 29, 1:23PM) proclaiming that Ian Plimer “works for the mining industry” which is untrue but that doesn`t matter. Clearly, Plimer`s motives are suspect. He stands to profit from disseminating his foul lies! He must be outed for the knave that he is! May his children be homeless and wander the earth forever!

    The next step is to mis-describe the issue. Troondon4 (May 29, 9:33PM) goes on to trumpet that, “…nope, no way can we influence the climate.” But who said that? Not Plimer, not me. But it doesn’t matter, does it. That was never the issue. The issue was the CAUSE of global warming – assuming it exists which some, in fact, reject maintianing that we are now entering a COOLING period. But no matter. Troondon4 was just engaging in a little religious rhetoric as we say.

    Then Troondon4 goes on to re-consider his position on Plimer: “I never said Plimer was a liar. I haven’t read his book.” (May 30, 9:30PM) Well no, you never actually used the word “liar” Troon (may I call you “Troon?”) but, if Plimer works for the mining industry and his research has led him to believe that climate change is a naturally occuring event as established by the geological record and not produced by anthropogenic global warming then – My God, Troon, it is obvious isn’t it? – he stands to profit by his evil deeds! Where`s there`s smoke there`s fire! He must be lying! He must be punished! He must be damned!

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  25. “…Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.”

  26. “So we find Troondon4 (May 29, 1:23PM) proclaiming that Ian Plimer “works for the mining industry” which is untrue but that doesn`t matter.”
    Hate to break it to you monsieur but Plimer is a director for three mining companies, Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. Just a matter of record, again does not mean he can’t have a valid opinion concerning the climate change debate.
    We’re entering a cooling period? Those we? The global population? Residents of Montreal? That’s why climate change is a better (or more accurate)term than global warming, as global temperatures rise, various areas of the planet will be affected differently.

  27. VOLCANOES OR FARTING COWS?

    : Troondon4 (May 31, 1:25PM) – “Hate to break it to you monsieur but Plimer is a director for three mining companies, Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals.”

    I hate to break it to you Troon, but his directorships of these mining companies are not listed in his Wikipedia entry. Can you give me your sources for your claim with its implication of financial hanky-panky?

    Plime is listed as an associate of the Institute of Public Affairs, a free-market think tank; he is an academic expert of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project, an advisory group that opposes the Kyoto Protocol; a member of Gina Rinehart’s mining lobby group which opposes taxing mines because – guess what? -of pressure imposed by the Australian environmental lobby to ram their views down the throats of Australian mining companies. Your implied claim that Plime is in league with the moneyed mining interests is simply wrong and malicious but, hey, that’s nothing new from the “true believers.” You’ve got to try and work another smear, Troon.

    – “Just as a matter of record, again does not mean he can’t have a valid opinion concerning climate change debate.”

    Troon, don’t you find that a little bit self-contradictory? If (a) you’re trying to discredit Plime by having him in bed with the mining companies for financial gain thereby destroying any credibility he might have, how can you then say (b) that this doesn’t mean that he can’t have a valid opinion concerning climate change? Explain that one to me, Troon.

    – “We’re entering a cooling period? Those (whose?) we? The global poplation? Residents of Montreal?”

    Well, no Troon, I wasn’t referring the residents of Montreal, to say nothing of the global population. I was, however, referring to Christopher Booker, a columnist for the London Sunday Telegraph who has campaigned for years against the global warming scam , who made the claim in one of his many articles. His research was so extensive that he brought out his book, “The Real Climate Change Catastrophe”(2009). You might want to have a look at it Troon. It paints a grim picture of economic collapse in Britain if the “warmists” have their way. Get ready for the brown-outs, Troon. I know Troon, I know, now you’re getting ready to smear Booker. The problem, however, is that he is in bed with no one. You’ve got to think of a new angle, Troon. Good luck.

    So Troon, to wrap this up, I’m going with volcanoes rather than the farting cows. But if you’re sincere, Troon, maybe you should do your bit, join your buddies, and lay off the baked beans.

    A pleasure as always.

    Cheerio!

  28. VOLCANOES, COWS, OR A PHILOSOPHERS BRAIN FART?

    Christopher Booker? As in ‘Private Eye’ magazine?
    Lolz – Smeghead, you’d do better using the ‘National Enquirer’ it’s a more reliable source of information.

  29. Not to mention referencing Wikipedia, an open source website that ANYONE can edit information on.

  30. Tim, I grew up here. When i was a kid, we had more than one ‘white’ Halloween.
    Rememberance Day was always friggin cold, and we never considered the possibility of a white Christmas until the mid-70’s.
    Now it’s no snow till January, and it’s gone in March.
    Last winter, the driveway needed clearing 3 times, in 1970 it was a weekly thing.

    Climate change is happening, weather patterns are different, you just have to look further back than 30 years.

    Another way to look at it….If the dooms-sayers are wrong, but action is taken, all that is lost is money; but if the warnings and predictions are true, and nothing is done….what then?

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