I just sent this letter off to the editor of the Globe and Mail and thought to share it with you bitches. Blog on!
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I just finished reading your story, Club’s security practices at issue after ejected teen found dead (ANTHONY REINHART, From Friday’s Globe and Mail, Friday, May. 29, 2009 05:19AM EDT)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/clubs-security-practices-at-issue-after-ejected-teen-found-dead/article1159027/
The story is mind-blowing from a couple of perspectives. (1) What kind of parent sends their small town 16 year old with friends to a big city concert without an emergency plan or even a cell phone? (2) Did the child display Asperger symptoms and was that why he was ejected? (3) Re: Mr Dawson’s comment, when is a person below the age of majority in this country EVER not to be regarded as a minor?
But I’m mostly shocked a newspaper such as the Globe and Mail is suppressing public reaction to this story by disabling the comments blog. The G&M is suppressing freedom of speech and I find this more than ironic. One would think the the G&M would be busy encouraging, observing and even reporting on public opinion. Is that not what the news is made of?
I’m left no option but to blog about this elsewhere as this news story is something that aught to be discussed by Canadians, especially Canadians who don’t think 16-year-olds are children who aught to be cared for as such.
—kay
This article appears in May 28 – Jun 3, 2009.
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Hali, why not contribute something USEFUL to the post?
How about this… when we send the 16-year-old off to school the school becomes the “judiciary parent” charged with associated responsibility. Why are the organizers of an “all ages show” free of this responsibility (if they are)? Imagine, the school sending your kid home with no phone call, no effort whatsoever to ensure the kid’s safety and then they end up dead. It would be the school’s fault. Why should this be so different? Since a child may not enter into a legal contract, even if they all signed a waiver as they filed into the show it would be invalid.
kay: When your comments change anything about the people involved in this story, let me know. In the meantime, at least learn the proper meanings of the words that you choose to use in your “I have the solution to everything” ramblings.
Kay – your bitch is not that intesting, but can you post a comment for me? As you did for Hali.
Get over yourself, hali. It’s a single word placed only a little out of context by *gasp* a single letter. MOST people here would have to look it up to figure out what your big problem is. Why can’t you just bitch about the story and GET OVER ME?
Again, contribute something to the post or move on. I’m not trying to change the world here… does this look like a petition? Does this look like a political platform? I just want to see if other people are moved by this bitch and am looking for other perspectives so what’s the big problem with that? With all due respect, kindly, go fuck yourself.
Let’s let hali define “intesting” for you.
Hey, does Sham Wow Guy mean you’re a real annoying gay guy in real life looking to trick the people? Never mind.
This is so unfortunate. When they checked his ID they surely saw that he was from out of town, and a long way from home. It’s not as if he lived a few blocks away.
Well of course it’s security’s fault. They should have had medical degrees. And after he was ejected exactly why is it the venue’s fault. They didn’t beat him or anything, did they? If it’s anyone’s fault it’s the parents but then they wouldn’t be able to sue then would they.
And lastly a concert is a big difference from a school. A concert is a matter of choice, school isn’t.
Kay (and everyone else) – here’s the note at the bottom of the G&M article:
“Comments have been disabled
Editor’s Note: We have closed comments on this story for legal reasons. We appreciate your understanding.”
“But I’m mostly shocked a newspaper such as the Globe and Mail is suppressing public reaction to this story by disabling the comments blog. The G&M is suppressing freedom of speech and I find this more than ironic. One would think the the G&M would be busy encouraging, observing and even reporting on public opinion.”
“Comments have been disabled.
Editor’s Note: We have closed comments on this story for legal reasons. We appreciate your understanding.”
Kay – Oops! There you go looking like an ass… AGAIN!
Hali – HAHAHA. “Oops”
Kay – good job once again, thumbs up!
How does this make ME an ass? That’s EXACTLY what I’m talking about, hali… We can blog about this on CBC’s story so tell us, asswipe, what (bullshit) “LEGAL” reasons would a free press have to suppress public opinion?
You know what you can do with that thumb of yours, Sham?
kay – you are the queen of comebacks. I concede.
Sham wow out!!
The news paper is NOT supressing kay’s freedom of speech; not one bit. Its their paper, their website and their comments list. Your freedom of speech is not being hindered by the website’s decision to remove/not allow comments.
Fundamentally, you’re free to speak and bitch all you want. However, a website – like any home – has the right not to listen/read/put up with it.
Perhaps the comments were getting out-of-line and swayed from the actual story. It happens.
But honestly, your freedom of speech is not being denied.
So far the stats are:
For Kay – 0
Against Kay – everyone
It could also be possible that just kay (and her computer IPs) are blocked, which would result in a ‘Comments Closed’ bit.
I’ll add: your freedom of speech is not being suppressed just because others don’t want to hear/read your shit also.
You sound like someone who says, “its a free country,” when other folks get annoyed with your beak flapping and tell you, “shut the fuck up!”
I’m not too sure about fault in this story. Firstly, we do not know what happened at the concert to contribute to the kid’s ejection. Secondly, although I kind of agree about parent responsibility, I was also 16 when I took my first road trip to see Metallica with 4 other buddies. Also, guys, if you’re not interested in commenting on the story itself, keep a lid on it please. Not to say I’m always a kay supporter, but in this case, it’s a bit useless and pointless. If you don’t want to contribute to this debate then don’t post. Bashing kay has been done and you guys are just looking like a bunch of asshats here.
Fat, IP blocking? You’re talking out of the side of your head again.
sarah1984, you’re an exception but WOW you guys are a deep as a dime. You should all take a bow… I need to find some smarter more engaging bitches. You suck ass. Ask yourself… if any other bitch had posted this and if I didn’t sign my name to it wouldn’t there be bitchin’ going’ on over the many points in the post? With the exception of sarah1984, you’re a bunch of bloody cattle.
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Broc, your post went up while I was writing. Thank you for intelligent input worth considering.
“(1) What kind of parent sends their small town 16 year old with friends to a big city concert without an emergency plan or even a cell phone?”
I’m agree with that comment, but not the comments stating that the people working the concert should have to take responsibility. Basically I’m with Broc and what he said.
School’s are mandatory, concert’s not. Not to mention, I think that society’s responsibility of children is getting pushed way to much. Parent’s need to start being enforced to take responsibility for their own children.
Broc, To be fair, the bit about the Globe and mail suppressing free speech took up half of the bitch and kay said that it was the thing she was most shocked about, so it’s a perfectly valid thing for people to comment on.
It’s hard to comment on this story without speculating, so I’ll stick to what I know. I’ve worked with kids who have Asperger’s syndrome and I really can’t imagine the boy being ejected solely because of it, it might have contributed to him getting into a fight but that’s all speculation (dammit). People with Asperger’s syndrome are most comfortable in familiar environments and routines. The children I worked with would often follow a strict routine every day and some of them would become quite upset and disoriented when something interrupted that routine. He would have gotten lost very easily. It breaks my heart to imagine this poor boy alone on the streets of a strange city.
I really want to know what “was a little bit different” about this situation that lead to the staff kicking him out without checking to see if he was a minor.
What a tragedy.
Alright, so after reading the story, my opinion is further justified, even though I don’t know the exact circumstances.
“He is 16 years old; he is not responsible for himself.”
That quote right there say’s it all. It is up to parent’s to determine the maturity level of their children. It is also up to parents to make sure they are in a safe situation. This story, although not knowing everything, screams that this boy was not equipped to be at this show. I am not attempting to take a stab at the parent’s during this rough time for them, I can’t even begin to understand the pain they must be going through right now. However, when this kind of thing happens, it is the parents who allowed the child to be in this situation to begin with that turn and point their fingers at other people. I am also not trying to say it is their fault, but it is certianly not the fault of the security at the concert. It is also situation’s like this that prevent all ages concerts as well as other functions from happening because organizers of these function’s don’t want to have to take responsibility for the hundreds of people that attend these functions. This is truly sad for the children that are responsibly equipped with the knowledge and maturity to be able to attend these functions.
Kay, I would also take a stab that comment’s are closed for legal reason’s that prevent the parent’s of this poor child to have to go through more emotional trauma from reading comments of “what were the parent’s thinking” nature. I am also in no way trying to disrespect the parent’s at this point in time, I am more referring to past circumstances for my point’s made because as of right now, I don’t know the full story.
I see right through this, Ms. Kay, using an article as fodder for your little games. I see how it is.
I agree FA. The “He is 16 years old; he is not responsible for himself.” quote stuck out to me too. While I don’t think the staff is at fault based on the information that’s been given so far, I’m going to defend the parents… sort of. It’s not like they sent their kid there alone. He was with four friends and the plan was obviously to stick together. I’m a big fan of letting kids be independent and not smothering them. But shit happens and parents should know that, and prepare for it. I would have let him go with his friends too, but not before handing him a cell phone, some money, numbers of any relatives close by, and talking to him about what to do if he got separated from his friends. Yeah they couldn’t foresee the separation, but if the kid had Asperger’s syndrome him being alone in a strange place is something to worry about and plan for. But at the same time they could have taken all of these precautions and the outcome could have been the same.
“I would have let him go with his friends too, but not before handing him a cell phone, some money, numbers of any relatives close by, and talking to him about what to do if he got separated from his friends.”
Exactly, but realistically, how do we know this didn’t happen?
I agree with everything you are saying fizz, the only thing I won’t agree with, if it does happen, as it has commonly happened in the past, is putting the blame on security saying that he as a minor was their responsibility.
After cautiously commenting on this twice already, teetering between parents fault vs. staffs fault I’ve come to the realization that there was a damn good reason why the Globe disabled comments. FA and NGF said it already, comments can get out of hand with speculation and it’s respectful to the family in their time of loss. I feel horrible about speculating without any information. The poor kid died, I’m gonna just gonna shut up.
Fizz, if this was a discussion in the globe and mail comments, I probably wouldn’t even comment. If the parent’s have anyway of seeing this, I would feel like shit. I agree with them not allowing comment’s on the article and feel hesitant about leaving any comments, perhaps I shouldn’t have? I don’t know, hard to say what’s appropriate to discuss sometimes while respecting others.
FA, you were typing while I was typing, so I’ll respond even though I’m done. I didn’t mean to come across as though I though the staff were at fault, or that the parents didn’t take proper precautions. By saying the parents could have taken precautions with the same outcome, I was implying that we don’t know whether or not they did.
We don’t know shit about what happened, and it’s useless dissecting an article that doesn’t give a lot of information.
I think I’m agreeing with you on this one fizz, as such I am politely bowing out
Could one of y’all go make me sandwich?
What kind?
A big one! 😀
Did the kid sneak out or was he there with his parent’s blessing?
Kay: IP blocking is quite common within online communities. Moderators who admin these sites have full ability to look up and block IPs.
Tim, for example sees every IP from every bitch that is submitted. He can probably even look up the IPs from the comments we post and figure out who’s bitch it is if they comment on here.
Sure, Aliant, for example, uses floating IP addresses, but other carriers do not and it would be easy enough for the coast to block YOUR IP it it’s static, for instance (please, coast? PLEASE? *hint*).
It’s getting to be that time again, kitty… long & hard this time.
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It could also be possible that just kay (and her computer IPs) are blocked, which would result in a ‘Comments Closed’ bit.
I’ll add: your freedom of speech is not being suppressed just because others don’t want to hear/read your shit also.
You sound like someone who says, “its a free country,” when other folks get annoyed with your beak flapping and tell you, “shut the fuck up!”
Posted by Nice Goin’ Fat on May 29, 2009 at 2:48 PM
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Again, the irony is overpowering… A prolific spammer complaining about spam… (and the cycle continues… ;))